Mullahs, Rabbis & Priests

One of the things ignored about the outbreak of war between Iran, Israel and the United States is that it brought the great religions into conflict. The prior wars in the region have been mostly Israel against one of the Muslim countries or the United States against one of the Muslim countries. This is the first time that all three religions were in open conflict with one another. The conflict reveals some things about the state of each of the Abrahamic religions and the cultures they represent.

The cause of the war, of course, was the sneak attack by Israel, and supported by the United States, aimed at decapitating the Iranian government. Putting everything about the region aside, it was an insane act. Israel is a tiny country, while Iran is a big country, so any war between the two will be lopsided. The only way this made any sense is if Israel assumed they would get help from the United States, but even then, it was a reckless act that wreaks of desperation.

That is the part ignored in the coverage. Israel is a country with very serious structural problems right now. The demographics are the main driver. While Israel fertility is above replacement, it is largely due to the ultra-orthodox (Haredi). Their fertility rate is a whopping 6.48 children per woman. Meanwhile, the Westernized, cosmopolitan population has a below replacement TFR. This demographic revolution is stressing Israeli politics at every level.

There is also the issue of Israeli identity, which was born out of the conflict with the British and then flowered in the endless conflicts with the Arabs. To be an Israeli means to be the David in a perpetual fight against a Goliath. The trouble is the supply of Goliaths is down to one, Iran. In many respects, the Israeli war against Iran is as much about the Israeli need for an enemy as anything else. Israel needs the fear of Persia to keep its population from turning on each other.

We see something similar with the United States. Generations of reckless disregard by the parasitic ruling elite have left America drained of its asabiyyah. The political class senses this, even if they lack the intellect to understand it, so they are always looking for an enemy to unite against. Notice the lack of dissenting voices in Washington as Trump stumbled through the crisis. They were just happy to once again have a common enemy to justify their existence.

As an aside, this may explain some of the Israel worship. The actors hired to fill out the roles in our political theater no longer wave the flag or speak in traditionally patriotic terms, because none of them believe in the ideals of America. Many of them hate those ideals as being white. That leaves a great void. For many, filling that with a bizarre worship of Israel and Jewish people is the answer. Hollow men will fill their souls with anything to avoid hearing the sound of their hollowness.

Putting that aside, this crisis and the proxy war with Russia all have the feel of a bad remake of a classic film because the United States is no longer a nation of people who optimistically look to the future. It is a land of old people and foreigners who fear what may lie ahead. As with Israel, the old gods now haunt the people. Christianity in America is in a shambles and the American ideology that grew out of American Protestantism has curdled into a collection of resentments.

The United States is now a land of priests, with no natural authority to proselytize to the rest of the world. The instinct to lecture remains, but the purpose and authority are gone, so we get men with no moral authority telling the rest of the world how they should and should not act. Notice how much they love saying, “Iran should never be allowed to have a nuclear weapon.” It makes them feel like it is a Sunday long ago and they are in the pulpit of a packed church.

Then we have Iran, which for half a century has been the symbol of radical Islam for most of the West. The Iran of today was born at the very beginning of the Islamic spiritual awakening that has defined the region ever since. Even though Iran is a Shia society, Shia Islam is a minority sect within Islam, it has been viewed as the center of political Islam, largely due to its size. Iran also has a unique identity within the Arab world, considering itself Persian rather than Arab.

Iran has always been the most sophisticated society within the Arab world, due to its history and its religion. Shia Islam is like high church Protestantism while Sunni Islam is like low church Protestantism. Within Shia Islam, you do not get to call yourself an Imam just because you read the Koran. It takes years of study and mentorship before you join the clerical class. Like low church Protestantism, any Sunni can set up shop as a holy man and start developing a following.

Like Israel and the United States, the old gods are starting to fade within Iran, as the population settled into modernity. The revolutionary fervor is long gone, as most of that generation are now dead. The religious fervor has now settled into a cultural and political framework that defines an increasingly modern population. Like all modern people, Iran has seen a collapse in fertility. At the start of the revolution, it had a TFR of 6.38 and now the TFR stands at 1.68.

Like Israel and the United States, Iran is now suffering from an identity crisis as it faces the challenges brought on by modernity. The religious structures remain in place, which are supposed to give meaning and purpose to life, but the population is struggling to remember the authority upon which those structures are built. In the cities, people care more about convenience than Islam. The same cancer eating away at the West is eating away at Iranian society.

This is why the great war between the three major religions looked like a ridiculous pantomime of past conflicts. The audience was expected to sing along with the familiar tunes but was too old or too disinterested to get into it. The actors themselves are too exhausted to put on more than a token effort. The three great civilizations as represented by the three great religions are exhausted. Both sense the future excludes them, but that is too terrifying to consider.


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Dr_Mantis_Tobbogan_MD #463385 June 24, 2025 9:16 am 76
I’ve been reading about this Dispensationalist heresy and it’s insane that so-called Christians believe, in a very Judaic way, that they have the power to compel Almighty God to commence the End Times and bring about the Second Coming of Christ.It’s from the same Judaic tradition that holds that if you surround a city in fishing line, God won’t notice that you’re breaking the Sabbath. The Jews in NYC are constantly having to make sure the line is kept intact or else they’ll be in trouble with God.Just a simple reading of scripture debunks all of Dispensationalism. But the worst thing is how it is motivating our leaders (see Tucker’s interview with the always awful Ted Cruz) to blindly support our best little friend in the Middle East, whom they consider God’s All Stars. That and a lot of AIPAC green and blackmail material.What these zealots don’t realize is that things happen on God’s timeline, not theirs. And the present state of Israel is not the same one in the Bible.I don’t care about Israel. Or Iran. I don’t want us involved in any way. It’s not our fight. Same with Ukraine, Syria, you name it. I’m just sick of good Southern boys dying in foreign hellholes to make some oligarchs slightly richer and for religious zealotry.
BuckinghamFountainMicturator #463406 June 24, 2025 9:51 am 20
You can speak for yourself, Tobbogan. As for me and my house, we’re learning to twirl fowl around our heads, litigate G_d, rhythmically lurch, complain, strike for an even better deal at Goldblatt’s and select the correctly hued heifer. Our tv pastor wants us to be saved!
Dr_Mantis_Tobbogan_MD #463412 June 24, 2025 9:58 am 41
Very well put. Hagee is one of the worst, along with Joel Osteen and his “prosperity gospel” that is horrendous heresy. Osteen has one of the most punchable faces I’ve ever seen.
Dutchboy #463449 June 24, 2025 10:52 am 7
He and Hagee are dangerous to one’s soul. The desire to strike somebody is corrosive.
fakeemail #463511 June 24, 2025 1:34 pm 5
Or is it suppressing the strike which is corrosive?
Ostei Kozelskii #463531 June 24, 2025 2:30 pm 0
A feller can get a hernia thataway…
Chmi #463666 June 25, 2025 9:22 am -1
Both are. Striking or willing to corrodes the soul, and its relationship with Good. Being unable to strike, while lusting to, corrodes the ego, and its will-to-power.
Pozymandias #463506 June 24, 2025 1:22 pm 8
Osteen is one those people that always looks to me like he’s wearing a mask or is perhaps a figure in a wax museum.
Rented mule #463452 June 24, 2025 10:56 am 3
Lol
Dutchboy #463448 June 24, 2025 10:51 am 16
The Dispensationalists in the pews are just chumps. The politicians are cynical opportunists, looking for Jewish money and political support from the chumps.
Steve #463450 June 24, 2025 10:54 am -9
Postmillennial Dispensationalism, yes. Even the Catholics officially accept Dispensationalism, i.e., that post-Christ, we have a dispensation; we no longer have to comply with Abrahamic and Mosaic Covenantal Law.
Steve #463458 June 24, 2025 11:08 am -10
LOL. I’m guessing there must be a bot downvoting me. The alternative is that someone, apparently Catholic, doesn’t understand his own church’s teachings.
Namely #463481 June 24, 2025 11:58 am 5
i downvoted you. Regards,bot
Alzaebo #463487 June 24, 2025 12:09 pm 13
I didn’t know why it was called ‘Dispensational’, or about the High Church / Low Church distinction, or that aspect of Shia, so thanks. Nixon, when asked, said the Shah was the most progressive leader in the Middle East. His mistake was… Liberating the women. And sending the students overseas. The women immediately accused him of being too conservative, and, as Whiskey once predicted, demanded their own version of The Handmaid’s Tale and revolution. The students came back radicalized and demanded socialism. Nixon said what both got, rather than some repression of Islamists, is total repression of everyone.
ray #463497 June 24, 2025 12:45 pm 15
Liberating women is rapidly and inevitably followed by the degradation of men, which is followed by the criminalization of masculinity, as in America. At that point, non-elite males essentially are second-class citizens. Sounds like Iranian men weren’t eager for that, and didn’t want the Empowered Ones taking away their educations, jobs, children, families and freedom. The anglo nations, by compare, all were transformed into gynarchies rather promptly, while the men pretended it didn’t happen. Or that it was wonderful and righteous, the Muh Princess option.
Pozymandias #463572 June 24, 2025 4:28 pm 10
Upon getting “liberation”, about 1% of women actually do something productive that they couldn’t have done before and become mathematicians, scientists, writers, or one of the very few heads of state that isn’t a total corrupt jackass. The other 99% become whores chasing alhpa cock by night and doing meaningless “jobs” in corporations/government (same thing really) by day. In fact, I’d say that the modern merger of corporation and state has been made possible by women acting as the “glue” that fuses both into a totalitarian whole. As many have noted – personnel is policy.The totalitarian framework of “liberal” democracy can only be broken by sending the women home, or at least throwing them out of government and corporations. Most modern women are probably too insane to attract a husband and form a healthy family but perhaps we could just admit the reality of their nature and legalize prostitution. They would have a way to support themselves at least without destroying civilization.
ray #463600 June 24, 2025 6:48 pm 3
Wow great post. I agree with all your points. Yes, there is a small percentage of females capable of making contributions to society (aside from motherhood) equal to, or greater, than the contributions of men.I have no issue with their inclusion, provided they are always supervised by men. Strong and based men.‘I’d say that the modern merger of corporation and state has been made possible by women acting as the “glue” that fuses both into a totalitarian whole’Astute observation and I believe that you are correct.‘The totalitarian framework of “liberal” democracy can only be broken by sending the women home, or at least throwing them out of government and corporations’So very true. That is why on this page and elsewhere I tell folks that continuing Western feminism/gynarchy is a civilizational dead end, and that they must choose between empowered daughters, or life.Women also must not be allowed to teach without immediate male supervision, as they have brainwashed past generations to suit their preferred ideology (which is themselves).I am a realist when it comes to male and female sexual urges. However, I’d quibble on the prostitution element and suggest a more family-oriented structure instead. This, of course, would require razing the gynarchy and its servant legal system and ‘laws’ like VAWA.Thanks for the great response.
Steve #463582 June 24, 2025 5:27 pm 3
“High Church / Low Church” Most people misuse this distinction, too. The separation happened between Luther and Zwingli. Luther believed the church was allowed to make creedal anything the Bible did not proscribe, while Zwingli argued it should include in the faith only those things the Bible mandated. Usually, the easiest way to distinguish between them is whether they have a liturgy or recite one of the creeds at services. Since these are not required in the Bible, those would be “High Church”.
Compsci #463498 June 24, 2025 12:48 pm -2
Definitely strange. The concept you speck of seems the very reason the Catholic Church exists today. There are Catholics who don’t appreciate this?
Shotgun Messenger #463529 June 24, 2025 2:27 pm 10
Dispensationalist theology holds that there are different strokes for different folks as long as those folks are Jews; they are still the Chosen and their covenant is still valid, for them. Supersessionist theology, which most of the rest of Christianity including Catholicism adheres to, defines only one covenant and one chosen people: Christ’s, and Christians.
Steve #463585 June 24, 2025 5:41 pm 1
That’s not even the Cliff’s Notes version. Dispensationalism is just the idea that the various Covenants only applied to people in certain timeframes. Edenic Covenant was pre-apple, so applied only to Adam and Eve. It was basically Be Fruitful and Multiply, which somehow they messed up. Adamic Covenant was the whole life of pain thing. Still applies. Noahic Covenant was God won’t flood the world again. Also still applies. Whenever the Covenants change, the Dispensation changes.
Shotgun Messenger #463597 June 24, 2025 6:20 pm 2
You fundamentally misunderstand both schools of thought or you’re playing word games. “Uhhhh you believe in two covenants which means you believe in dispensations, checkmate!” isn’t some kind of gotcha, it’s irrelevant semantics. Dispensationalists themselves disagree as to how many of these chapters to distinguish and whether each corresponds to a different dispensation. The key irreconcilable differences are in the view that there is still any valid pact between God and the Jews, and that He has got a separate plan and destiny for them apart from that of Christians, compounded with an additionally wackadoo interpretation of End Times prophecies that most of the rest of Christianity also rejects.
Mr. Invisible #463606 June 24, 2025 8:17 pm 2
The “dispensation” refers to the seven periods, or as they call them, “dispensations” of the way God interacts with his Chosen People.
Steve #463625 June 25, 2025 8:20 am 1
Exactly! Though as Shotgun points out, there is quite a little disagreement as to how many “dispensations” there have been. I’ve personally met sects who can rationally justify 13, and the 14th is the coming Christ’s Kingdom. How do they know we are living in the last one? Faith, I guess.
Steve #463633 June 25, 2025 8:31 am 0
For those questioning dispensations in Catholicism, ask your priest about Papal Dispensations. Those are relaxations from (IIRC) Doctrinal Law (but not Divine Law) which the Pope grants. There’s a word for it that escapes me, but it’s closely tied to subsidiarity. Jesus granted a Divine Dispensation from the Age of Law, in a parallel manner, the Pope grants Dispensations to lesser Law, and each step down in the hierarchy has the authority to grant dispensations from even lesser law. Darby decided to use the word itself from Catholicism to make it easier to understand.
Dutchboy #463477 June 24, 2025 11:53 am 5
That is quite a different sort of dispensation than the Evangelical variety.
Steve #463589 June 24, 2025 5:46 pm -2
Not really. They believe, as any Christian does, that we are living in the Dispensation of the new rules that Christ brought. into being. The sects squabble about what exactly the new rules are, sure, but we all agree that we live in the Gospel Dispensation, or whatever variant name a given sect uses. I don’t know much about Mormonism, but from what I understand, they think there are a new subset of rules and promises revealed in those plates John Smith found, so they would likely be yet another dispensation.
Ears2Hear #463457 June 24, 2025 11:07 am 19
Dispensationalism, invented by John Nelson Darby between 1828-1830, has corrupted the belief of 70% of protestants by some estimates. The apostle Paul first warned against pastors teaching “Jewish fables” back in the first century (Titus 1:14). Dispensationalism essentially takes Jesus’ prophecy of the destruction of Jerusalem and the temple which occurred in the year 70 A.D., misinterprets much of the symbolic language of the Olivet Discourse and Revelation, and claims events long past are yet in our future 1950+ years later.
Dutchboy #463479 June 24, 2025 11:55 am 10
Judaizing was the original heresy and heresies never really go away, they recur like weeds.
Steve #463592 June 24, 2025 6:01 pm -1
“invented by John Nelson Darby” Invented by Darby, no. Systematized by Darby, yes. Preterists mostly believe the collapse of the temple in 70 AD is what He is talking about in Matthew 24. Full Preterists also have no problems with the Olivet Discourses. Partial Preterists may or may not — there are all kinds of opinions about which prophesies have been fulfilled. I get that you probably have only Catechism to rely on, and Catholics tend to portray dissident thought in an extremely negative light, but I would think someone worthy of the name dissident…
george 1 #463462 June 24, 2025 11:33 am 12
Yes. The Scofielders are legion. Much to our detriment.
Tired Citizen #463358 June 24, 2025 8:23 am 42
Israel is the scrawny, weakling guy at the bar who starts a fight with the biggest guy in the place because he has the entire football team with him.
ProZNoV #463388 June 24, 2025 9:27 am 25
Ron Unz had a great article (LONG) article exploring the history of Zionist Israel as the assassination nation. This has been going on for a LONG time. Pretty sobering stuff. His ultimate conclusion is that Isreal will probably go the way of the French aristocracy in the French Revolution. Everyone put up with it, until they didn’t.
A Bad Man #463427 June 24, 2025 10:17 am 17
What does the country in question that doubled its size after its most successful ‘proactive defense’ war have in common with Hollywood, Pornography and Vegas? Formed by gangsters of a specific stripe.
Horace #463464 June 24, 2025 11:36 am 4
I sure hope not, and not because I don’t loathe Israelis. The transnational Jews we have infesting America and Western Europe are WAY WAY WAY worse than nationalist Israelis.Jewish civilizational builders, flaws and all, went to Israel to build their civilization. The transnational predators slinked back back into Paris and London after WW2, and returned to their pastime of subverting and raping European civilization. If Israel falls, the nationalist Jews are going to end up mostly in America where they will quickly readapt into becoming transnationalist predators.The difference between them and those who have been feeding at America’s jugular for the last century, is that their goy hatred will be amplified by their (correctly) perceived loss of sovereignty, and they will go gangbusters getting it back by putting serf collars around our necks. I see the totalitarian evil of Karp’s Palantir in the context of my certainty in the manifestation of this process.
Alzaebo #463507 June 24, 2025 1:23 pm 10
Israel is the Australia of Judaism.In America, the old-money German Jews from the Revolutionary War (who lived in Manhatten and voted Republican) didn’t want the grubby immigrant Russian shtetl-dwellers from Brooklyn (who voted Democrat) to mob their ritzy golf clubs.In Europe, the old-money industrialist oligarchs of both Germany and Britain, many of whom were Jewish, same as here, didn’t want those immigrant radicals from Russia and Poland such as the KDP German Communist Party and the Rotfront (Red Front). Antifa was pulling their usual tricks of trying to turn Bavaria into a Communist oblast (1918) and of violent street riot “protests” (where their snipers would shoot the police.)Britain wanted a colonial outpost in the crossroads of the Mideast, so they could access oil for her Majesty’s Navy. Israel is ideally situated – as it was in ancient times – and the elites wanted to get rid of a lot of trash, i.e., the superstitious underclass, the criminal gangs, and the anarchists.The mobsters were offered the job of setting up the colony. Note that countries afflicted with jihadis or Cartel do the same today – they pay their problems to go somewhere else, like conquistadors. Irgun, Hagana, and Shin Bet would deal with the inevitable resistance by the locals.The governments of Britain and Germany both cooperated in the Havarra Transfer Program, even during the war that the industrialist oligarchs funded. (Apparently other governments joined in, such as France, as the French Resistance was composed largely of Communist gangs.)The idea of settling a scrub-brush territory surrounded by hostile tribes under the Mob’s thumb was not very appealing to people raised in Europe; Germany only got about 150,000 ‘volunteers’, Britain about 45,000. They were promised they’d get to keep their money, but only if they moved.To that was added the fuel of Eastern Europe’s own inclinations, molded as they were by their harsh history. The rabbi’s messianic exhortations were supplemented by pogroms (rich Jews collaberating with the gangs and authorities, as had been most pogroms in Russia), and atrocity propaganda to further enthuse the lackluster participants (no shortage of that in Jewish culture).The founding mythology of Israel was thus formed, providing the rich spice that flavors our kosher-approved foods today.
Tars Tarkas #463416 June 24, 2025 10:02 am 14
They are more like an expert in Jujitsu with a glass jaw. They look great dishing it out, but the glass chin is exposed when they attack anyone who can fight back.
RealityRules #463361 June 24, 2025 8:32 am 36
Hey Z. You made the point several times that at some point the Cloud people will be affected by the invasion and get some smelling salts. https://www.amren.com/news/2025/06/us-attorney-for-ny-john-sarcone-chased-by-knife-wielding-illegal-salvadoran-migrant/ Looks like Sarcone found out. Some may still be awake enough to realize that this could be random, or, like Mexico or other cartel countries, this guy could be paid by someone to do this. Was it random, or was he Sheinbaum’d? The Clouds have invited the darkness upon themselves. Yet, we are likely on our own. I think the 2025 corollary to Nixon’s aphorism is: We Are All Laken Reilly Now.
thezman #463367 June 24, 2025 8:46 am 55
It is a good start. Need a few thousand more of these people to taste their own blood, mostly for our amusement.
RealityRules #463369 June 24, 2025 8:51 am 24
Yes. It happened to Elon’s buddy in SF at his apartment building in ’23. Likely prompted him to do what he did to back Trump. Here’s to two own-blood tastings down and thousands more to go.
Hemid #463436 June 24, 2025 10:29 am 8
The idea of Elon learning, realizing, or understanding anything is preposterous—like thinking Koko could talk—but it’s fun to imagine. He should be afraid ofeverybody. All the “tech bros” should be terrified to make any public appearance under any circumstance. Some seem to show it, not a man’s guilty knowledge—”For what I’ve done and want to do, Ishouldbe killed”—but an animalistic knowing that they have toget usbefore we (realize we should)get them. They may have achieved sentience.
Compsci #463500 June 24, 2025 12:56 pm 7
I believe I read that Musk has his own cadre of body guards. We just don’t see them as much as for political figures. Hard to believe there is any billionaire that would not expend funds for such protection.
Pam Hyde #463445 June 24, 2025 10:41 am 7
That’s why I never go out without my hand canon, Ruger LCP .22 FMJ.
Zulu Juliet #463468 June 24, 2025 11:41 am 4
Hand Cannon? .22? You must have very small hands. I recommend an upgrade to .380ACP at least. No offense meant.
Xman #463471 June 24, 2025 11:46 am 3
Well… at least stuff some CCI Stingers into that thing.
Alzaebo #463516 June 24, 2025 1:44 pm 4
Of course she has small hands, she’s alady.Hard to tuck anything larger into one’s cleavage.
miforest #463502 June 24, 2025 1:03 pm 2
any gun is better than no gun. but I agee , the 3980 with federal HST is much better. also, a grip lasere will improve your accuracy.
Xman #463530 June 24, 2025 2:28 pm 4
I sort of disagree. Some .380s are so compact they have vicious recoil even though the cartridge is considered on the weaker side. I passed on an AMT Backup a guy offered me for sale many years ago for that reason.It all depends on the circumstances. If she’s in a force-on-force running gunfight with a dude with a .40, she’s outgunned. But that’s extremely rare to say the least. On the other hand, if some guy is trying to rape her and she manages to pull a .22 and shove it under his chin and pull the trigger, it’ll be plenty.
Ostei Kozelskii #463534 June 24, 2025 2:33 pm 1
It’d certainly cause his todger to shrivel up…
Steve #463596 June 24, 2025 6:09 pm 1
I’ve got a little .22 derringer that I can only get just under 2 fingers on the grip, and, yea, controlling muzzle rise is a bitty. The LCP, though, is probably fine. My wife carries that in 9, and she’s not very big. It’s all about shot placement, though. I’ve put cattle down with a .22.
Ham Pied #463509 June 24, 2025 1:27 pm 4
If you could see me flex, you’d realize why DEEZE GUNS trump any mere firearm for urban combat. I open carry my Colt Desert Eagle in fifty for fashion’s sake. It makes me look hood. I don’t actually know how to use it but it’s big and shiney. “I’m a killin’ while I’m a grillin'” says the wife.
Spam Fried #463517 June 24, 2025 1:44 pm 2
It’s boring here in Chiraq. If I open up on my community with a hundred round drum, I don’t stand out. That just makes things yet another Tuesday. Any of you have tips on assembling a flammenwerfer? Hans?
Ostei Kozelskii #463551 June 24, 2025 3:40 pm 3
A can of Final Net and a Bic lighter.
Spam Fried #463576 June 24, 2025 4:47 pm 0
Queen Shaniqua Latrina Poopaya Schtinky-Schtank already accomplished that in our Austin neighborhood. She sacrificed many extensions. We need to one-up. Hans?
choreboy1 #463510 June 24, 2025 1:34 pm 1
and like this – Ontario’s premier –“Lawless society”: Doug Ford says masked men tried to steal …YouTube · Global News1 week agoand then this about castle law –https://www.facebook.com/share/v/1H4NX8DGcC/
usNthem #463366 June 24, 2025 8:44 am 31
Great observation that the US is now substantially populated by geezers and foreigners – and the tards in DC apparently have yet to get the memo. The age of the government here blustering and threatening everyone else on the planet is fading fast. Who are they going to back up the threats, lol? This place is rapidly becoming a joke – actually it already is…
ray #463394 June 24, 2025 9:34 am 6
Agree, an incisive OP. Very good at bringing together seemingly disparate elements.
TempoNick #463444 June 24, 2025 10:41 am 5
Yes, I agree. That line about the geezers was an astute observation.
Jack Dodson #463466 June 24, 2025 11:39 am 9
Yep. D.C. in particular is like an older Boomer or Silent still going on about the marvel of CD’s. They don’t live in reality or understand it although they believe they are well-informed with secret knowledge. Everyone in that city is an Israel Firster, and even many Israelis have severe doubt about their country. The citizenry outside the District is clueless, too, but not to that degree.
george 1 #463486 June 24, 2025 12:08 pm 7
Fitting right into it all is the fake bombing run at the fordo facility and Iran’s fake response to our attack.How could clown world be any more of a circus?
BuckinghamFountainMicturator #463365 June 24, 2025 8:43 am 29
From my perch, it apears Christianity has capitualated while Islam and Judaism fight on. The West has a religion but it is Progressivism and not Christ. Z points to convenience (sloth) as a driver and I agree. Energy reposes in the Far East having flowed there from everywhere else. We’re spent.
Templar #463379 June 24, 2025 9:06 am 2
Energy reposes in the Far East having flowed there from everywhere else. We’re spent. The Far East is as bad off as we are in many respects.
Zaphod #463557 June 24, 2025 3:50 pm 2
Really? (Posted from the ‘Far East’)
ray #463399 June 24, 2025 9:41 am 14
‘From my perch, it apears Christianity has capitualated while Islam and Judaism fight on. The West has a religion but it is Progressivism and not Christ’ Exactly. Christianity is impotent because rotten with prog/feminist assumptions and persons . . . and weak men who seek to be ‘leaders of churches’. It is utterly devoid of the real and living power of Christ — who is the summa of masculinity — and without Christ it becomes merely a cult of ianity. Play some guitars and welcome the new pastoress.
Zaphod #463559 June 24, 2025 3:52 pm 3
If being crucified was the summa of masculinity, we’d all aspire to be Filipinos.
ray #463601 June 24, 2025 6:59 pm -1
You win Idiot Comment of the Day. Congratulations!
Ostei Kozelskii #463463 June 24, 2025 11:35 am 14
Christianity’s capitulation is of a piece with the surrender of the West. The very people who convinced us that whites are the cancer of the human race also conquered the Christian clericy and used it as a vehicle to further deligitimate the West and sow its destruction from within. There’s no difference between an archbishop and a provost.
Captain Willard #463378 June 24, 2025 9:05 am 26
This whole episode did have a WWE-Royal Rumble vibe. The sponsor was Flomax (a prostate medication). Bibi – 75, Trump – 79 and Ayatollah – 86; a bunch of geezers settling old scores. Makes me feel young. The younger people over there in the ME will have to decide whether to chill out or build robot armies to kill each other. The only benefit to falling Testosterone levels world-wide and plastic filling our b*lls is that it may chill out the younger people and we may all be able to die in peace, or at least until immigrant savages kill us as God intended.
The Wild Geese Howard #463520 June 24, 2025 1:53 pm 4
If I were an advisor in the Kremlin I’d be advising Putin and Lavrov to go watch Trump’s runs in WWE. I wonder how one says, “kayfabe,” and “face turn,” in Russian.
Maxda #463357 June 24, 2025 8:18 am 21
Yes. This whole thing looked like poorly executed Kabuki Theater. Witkoff almost made a deal with Iran by accident. Then Trump and Israel scuttled it with crazy talk. Then, $billions of missiles later, they just called it off. Iran’s uranium is now missing, they’ll accept an alliance with Russia next time it’s offered, and the NPT is dead. But we won!
Mycale #463360 June 24, 2025 8:31 am 31
It seems like Israel was genuinely surprised and alarmed at the amount of power Iran brought to the table and what they were doing to Tel Aviv, Haifa, etc. It’s also weird that Trump is declaring total victory and that Iran’s nuclear problem is “obliterated”, even though there is no evidence of that and even they admit they don’t know where the uranium is. But, I suppose they have no choice.This morning I woke up and saw Trump going off on Israel for breaking the cease-fire. To that I say, of course they did, they’ve done it every time, but it is interesting that most of his ire is directed at them. It’s clear that he is tired of these perfidious scumbags that are keeping him from doing what he wants but also has to deal with them.
NoName #463370 June 24, 2025 8:55 am 16
Mycale:“This morning I woke up and saw Trump going off on Israel for breaking the cease-fire.“ Netanyahu started the damned thing, when he Pearl-Harbor’ed the Iranians on Friday June 13th [“Operation Rising Lion”]. “Rising Lion“, my ass. We still don’t know whether Trump approved “Rising Lion” beforehand, or whether Netanyahu simply stabbed Trump in the back [without bothering to inform Trump about Rising Lion].
Xman #463478 June 24, 2025 11:54 am 4
There were reports a couple of weeks ago that Trump put the kibosh on Bibi’s attack plans while the U.S. conducted negotiations. So it’s very possible that Bibi double-crossed Trump and boxed him into a corner where he felt he had to bomb Iran, and now he’s trying to cover his own ass with bullshit about what a great victory and cease-fire he won, but the Jews keep jerking him around.
Chmi #463675 June 25, 2025 9:35 am 0
It is about obvious that Trump had not been informed, and they tried to force his hands by setting of a war.
Tarl Cabot #463382 June 24, 2025 9:14 am 26
I have been very disappointed in Trump of late, but waking up this morning to him dropping f- bombs on the Israelis is why I will always love him. Kinda like my Dad.
Compsci #463423 June 24, 2025 10:12 am 23
Talk is cheap, as has been said. Israel is a vicious dog on an American leash. Trump needs to stop refueling the Israeli war machine. Only that will getNetanyahu’sattention and complete cooperation. “F-bombs” won’t do it. Trump will never have more power/control over Israel than he does today. The country and people of Israel are exhausted financially and militarily.
Jack Dodson #463469 June 24, 2025 11:45 am 7
Good points. Defunding Israel even briefly will force their whores and help to come out of the shadows, too.
The Wild Geese Howard #463523 June 24, 2025 2:00 pm 4
Trump needs to stop refueling the Israeli war machine. All he has to do is switch off the supply chain management software for the Patriot, THAAD, and F-35s. Game over, Bibi.
Ostei Kozelskii #463429 June 24, 2025 10:20 am 28
Yes, but it’s also very confusing. One day we think Trump is being tossed scraps of moldy gefiltefish in Bibi’s dungeon, then the next he’s in front of the cameras hitting Bibi’s brigades with a verbal smackdown. Look, Tradissidents are clued into reality more than anybody else, but we gotta admit that much of what we believe is indeterminate conjecture.
Jannie #463480 June 24, 2025 11:55 am 5
One thing’s certain with Trump: it’s a wild ride indeed.
Compsci #463501 June 24, 2025 1:02 pm 7
“…much of what we believe is indeterminate conjecture.” Can I steal that line? 🙂
Ostei Kozelskii #463512 June 24, 2025 1:36 pm 4
There are now pharmaceuticals that will alleviate Indeterminate Conjecture…
Jack Dodson #463538 June 24, 2025 2:45 pm 3
Wait four hours, no?
ray #463547 June 24, 2025 3:25 pm 1
I take one eight hours before rising. If that doesn’t do it, then Fleets.
ray #463503 June 24, 2025 1:07 pm 3
Yesterday everybody was telling me that Le ‘Orange is the second coming of Moshe Dayan. Nothing but a socket wrench of the Jews. Today what? Now that he’s dissing his supposed puppeteer?
The Wild Geese Howard #463522 June 24, 2025 1:58 pm 0
But we won! Just like Cactus Jack in a, “Hell in a Cell,” match!
NoName #463359 June 24, 2025 8:26 am 16
After having binge-read hundreds [???] of pages about recent events concerning missiles, I can’t help but sense that the Oligarchs have decided to move away from classical kinetic warfare, in favor of a bizarre Psy-Op driven pseudo-warfare, in which psychological wins trump classical kinetic wins.And if fake [often non-existent] attacks on military facilities can make a big enough splash in the (((Media))), then the fake attacks appear to be producing a more powerful shared dopamine hit [amongst the populace] than would actual successful kinetic attacks.How addicted is the populace to the Dopamine Hits?Might the Dopamine Hits become more real [amongst the middle of the bull curve of the populace] than is Reality itself?
karl von hungus #463362 June 24, 2025 8:35 am 20
as soon as robot soldiers are reasonably capable, “war” will be treated like a kind of sport, with leagues and so forth.
NoName #463368 June 24, 2025 8:47 am 10
I certainly hope the A.I. robot soldiers don’t come toso despise us that theyconclude the only way to preserve Reason & Common Sense is to plunge Mankind into extinction. The Depopulationist Oligarchs seem to have already come to that conclusion some 75 or 100 years ago.
ray #463390 June 24, 2025 9:29 am 12
‘The Depopulationist Oligarchs seem to have already come to that conclusion some 75 or 100 years ago.’ Let them show leadership then and begin with themselves.
Alzaebo #463521 June 24, 2025 1:54 pm 1
Still, I gotta admire the dedication of the visionaries.They looked at the charts, concluded the inevitable, and began preparing for it.
ray #463548 June 24, 2025 3:29 pm 2
They began executing it, like a spider prepares a web. Again, I say to our Depop Zealots: show me your personal and permanent dedication to The Cause, and perhaps then I will be swayed over. Or, I might just celebrate.
BuckinghamFountainMicturator #463376 June 24, 2025 9:04 am 16
Somebody observed this morning that most civilian damage in Tel Aviv occured at structures already slated for demolition and replacement. If true, it’s further evidence that supports the theatrical nature of this “war.”
Jeffrey Zoar #463408 June 24, 2025 9:53 am 20
A clown world truism is however rigged you think it is, it’s more rigged than that
Ostei Kozelskii #463424 June 24, 2025 10:16 am 7
Wazzup muh rigga?!
fakeemail #463533 June 24, 2025 2:33 pm 4
this is why kayfabe WWF wrestling was never stupid. It was actually a very deep and insightful showcase of what happens to the masses ALL THE TIME.
Alzaebo #463519 June 24, 2025 1:51 pm 3
When it gets to Robot Wars, what’s the point?You’re supposed to take the enemy’s land, his food, and his women.
NoName #463364 June 24, 2025 8:38 am 1
Kindly note that George Orwell anticipated such an Ouroboros, with his theory of Oceania always at war with Eurasia always at war with Eastasia always at war with Oceania.
Mycale #463371 June 24, 2025 8:55 am 13
This is what happens when you have a ruling class of people who believe in sorcery and magic and believe that their words are magic incantations that conjure reality. Israel’s propaganda campaign after the events of 10/7/2023 failed spectacularly – remember the forty beheaded babies! – but I think worked extremely well this time around. I was shocked at how fast so many normies got on board and were cheering for Israel and claiming the Ayotallah was the new moustache man. I think you’re right, a lot of these normies were desperate for something to cheer for as Trump’s domestic policies have been relatively slow to fall in place.
Tars Tarkas #463420 June 24, 2025 10:10 am 5
Before 2022 there was endless gibbering about 3rd and 4th generation warfare because war was obsolete or something. War is not obsolete. It’s peace that is unnatural and obsolete. Propaganda/narratives does not win wars. It might be a great dopamine hit to the leadership, but that’s all it is. It does nothing to win the war.
Jeffrey Zoar #463422 June 24, 2025 10:12 am 6
Sort of like a “post industrial economy.” No such thing. Yet, anyway.
WillS #463473 June 24, 2025 11:47 am 7
What would a “post industrial economy” even look like. My suspicion would be back to being hunter gatherers.
Alzaebo #463524 June 24, 2025 2:00 pm 2
Before that, women’s jobs as daycare to keep White women from breeding. Then nature will heal itself, as WillS says.
Mycale #463434 June 24, 2025 10:26 am 6
Zelensky has been fighting a postmodern war since the beginning. It’s all narrative for western consumption. When he needs more funding he approves some terrorist attack that can get discussed for a few days on CNN and Fox News. Then he goes back to losing soldiers, battles, and territory to Russia. I bet if you ask most people in the west they would think Ukraine is winning. Of course you make a good point, the fact that he can do this means he doesn’t have to end the war. He doesn’t have to sue for peace because nobody is going to back a losing horse anymore. It can go on indefinitely.
Jannie #463476 June 24, 2025 11:53 am 7
Sounds like the Republicans in the Spanish Civil War: all the focus on narratives and propaganda victories, while Franco stuck with facts on the ground and actually winning battles.
Tars Tarkas #463483 June 24, 2025 12:03 pm 1
No, he’s just getting rich pretending he is winning a war he is losing. Profiteers have always existed in war.
CorkyAgain #463526 June 24, 2025 2:03 pm 5
His problem is that he’s waited too long to leave the country with his suitcase stuffed full of loot. He should have used an election as the excuse to stick someone else with the mess he’s made and get out while the getting was good. I don’t think he can escape with his life now.
Alzaebo #463525 June 24, 2025 2:03 pm 0
One Iranian pointed out that whenever the natives get restless and start with the protests, Bearded Hitler will kick off another Hezbollah incursion.
A Bad Man #463428 June 24, 2025 10:20 am 2
From missiles to simulated missile attacks. To chips implanted that send signals to the brain, “war” and what the response should be. Forget drones.
Alzaebo #463527 June 24, 2025 2:09 pm 0
And here I thought Neurolink was to help paraplegics.It’s already been improved on with graphene oxide mRNA – just hit the switch, send the thrum, and the blood starts boilin’. Rage zombies with an artificial virus!All we need is a Valentine sending the signal to everybody’s cell phone like in the movie “The Kingsman”.
Alzaebo #463518 June 24, 2025 1:49 pm 0
Experience and guile will beat youth and enthusiasm, most of the time.
Dutchboy #463447 June 24, 2025 10:49 am 14
The mullahs made the mistake of allowing contraception in Iran. Contraception creates an anti-natalist psychology in the peoples who use it and is the road to democide, as the West clearly shows.
Alzaebo #463573 June 24, 2025 4:30 pm -2
Mistake? It’s the non-Muslim women who’ll use it. Iran is only about 35% Muslim, even though everyone has to abide by their rules. They’ll just keep popping them out, as Islam is a rape culture designed to force-breed soldiers.
Vizzini #463396 June 24, 2025 9:36 am 14
Masoud Pezeshkian (Iranian President): 70Netanyahu: 75Trump: 79Ali Khamenei: 86 The geezer wars. George Washington was 44 in 1776 and was considered a senior member of the revolution. Of course, there were older man — Franklin was 70 at the time, but most of the movers and shakers were what we consider today to be in the prime of their lives — 30s and 40s. Even Caesar Rodney, who is frequently portrayed as a frail old man, and was dying of cancer, was only 48 when he signed the declaration.
Jeffrey Zoar #463405 June 24, 2025 9:50 am 26
Those guys were reading Latin at age 10. I’m not sure what the present day “leaders” were studying at that age, but the future ones are studying self esteem.
Compsci #463433 June 24, 2025 10:25 am 1
There was a lot less to study then wrt what we have choice of today and a *lot* less distractions from books and time to read.
Paintersforms #463491 June 24, 2025 12:30 pm 1
Yes. The encyclopedia: all knowledge in a few volumes. A ludicrous idea today. Less knowledge, deeper study, and less specialized.
Alzaebo #463545 June 24, 2025 3:03 pm 0
Most of them were in their early 20s, if that. I believe Lafayette got his first naval command (and a great victory) when he was 18.
Compsci #463430 June 24, 2025 10:22 am 2
It is probably more complex than a simple comparison of age and accomplishment now than then. 200+ years is a long time wrt society and one’s roles within.
Marko #463440 June 24, 2025 10:35 am 5
Don’t forget that Putin and Xi aren’t exactly youngsters either. In fact Xi looks positively youthful next to those others (it’s the hair dye). Our world leadership resembles The Simpsons jokes about out of touch old people. “Old man shakes fist at cloud.”
Compsci #463496 June 24, 2025 12:45 pm 1
I also suspect it’s the culture and climate. Note both these men don’t spend their time suntanning on the beach.
Jack Boniface #463386 June 24, 2025 9:18 am 14
6.48 TFR? We need Haredi Christians. Side benefit: our women would be kept busy with kids.
Namely #463395 June 24, 2025 9:35 am 8
We do. They are called Mormons.
3g4me #463574 June 24, 2025 4:33 pm 3
And Mormons are increasingly called mixed race. So, no thank you.
ray #463401 June 24, 2025 9:42 am 2
Yep.
miforest #463504 June 24, 2025 1:11 pm 4
trad catholics .on of my sons friends has 4 sons at the age of 26. their are more of them all the time. Happily I have grandkids and expect more .
Shotgun Messenger #463532 June 24, 2025 2:30 pm 3
No, we do not need our own caste of inbred, degenerate welfare shyster shtetl goblins who are a parasite even unto the rest of Jewry.
Alzaebo #463546 June 24, 2025 3:07 pm 1
We need to be less White. I personally would accept a harem, the Yamnaya did! Actually, in ye good olde days, Americans often had broods of 7-15. A little more /r, a lot less K/!Then we can outrun the Africans and Bangladeshis. Why did Japan stop breeding? With the advent of Western corporate capitalism, the sararimen are just plain exhaused. Even the women are expected to work late daily. Nobody, especially not the bosses, gets off at 5. The problem of overtime is so widespread people have to hire “resignation agents”, because they aren’t allowed to quit.
ray #463550 June 24, 2025 3:38 pm 0
Capital! I am goona start calling myself a Resignation Agent.
BuckinghamFountainMicturator #463577 June 24, 2025 5:05 pm 1
They, as with most peoples, were promised a better life through use of their talents and hard work.Lies. Once they understood no material generational improvements would be bestowed unto them, they quietly quit. Resistance was accorded stigma and harsh legal treatment. In some aspects, they are worse off. And so with the destruction of close bonds people stopped breeding.
Zulu Juliet #463461 June 24, 2025 11:33 am 13
… too old or too disinterested to get into it. Pretty much. I wish it would all just go away; It is so damn pointless, this thirty five years of endless bombing of fly-blown sand holes while we import their worthless populations into our country to crap-up our neighborhoods. Folks ask me what I think of the affair, and all I can muster is “What a sh*t show.”
Marko #463363 June 24, 2025 8:35 am 13
These latest happenings, w/r/t Russia and Iran, all do have a “Remember when we rocked?! Guess what…we’re still touring, and we’re coming to your city this summer!” vibe to it…like the company that manages Chicago or Blood Sweat & Tears needs some hype and cash and they compel their legacy pop acts to do a few dates, and nobody under 50 cares nor knows who Chuck Mangione is. But there are a lot of Boomers and they tend to have money, so these acts will carry on until Bob and Bill can’t walk into a venue without medical devices.I see it as a white pill that even after all these schemes to start wars with people the Boomers are told to dislike, by aged and experienced men with money, nothing really happens. This is the very definition of impotent rage. They want us all to love and appreciate Chicago but fail to realize that nobody wants horns or strings in music anymore.
NoName #463373 June 24, 2025 9:00 am 5
Marko:They want us all to love and appreciate Chicago but fail to realize that nobody wants horns or strings in music anymore. BRO. Thou speaketh Blasphemy!!! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7uAUoz7jimg
Marko #463439 June 24, 2025 10:31 am 10
I’m a fan of Chicago – well, 1970s Chicago. I like all the stuff with guitars and horns. We’ll never get there again, musically. And I say this as a Carter baby, not a Boomer. But it’s okay to have your musical or artistic (or even sartorial) tastes stuck in another time. But intellectually you should always be evolving.
Tars Tarkas #463484 June 24, 2025 12:06 pm 0
Foreigners doing the jobs Americans will not do! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xPHcUFBQhXE
stranger in a strange land #463451 June 24, 2025 10:55 am 2
Terry Kath – gone too soon. I’ll now enjoy Leonid and Friends instead. Better than the original.
Tars Tarkas #463485 June 24, 2025 12:07 pm 0
They are absolutely awesome. Even their EWF covers are great.
stranger in a strange land #463552 June 24, 2025 3:44 pm 0
completely off topic – any idea why L&F don’t cover BS & T?
Tars Tarkas #463599 June 24, 2025 6:34 pm 0
Could be stylistic or it could be cost. You cannot play copyrighted music in public. Remember when the Recording jews of America went after the girlscouts for doing the macarina? So they have to pay to do the covers.Also, why not ELO. I think ELO is closer to their style than BS&T. Even Spinning Wheel, a big hit for them has a harder edge than anything Chicago did, at least in the 70s and 80s. But ELO is a much softer sounding music in an at least related style. ELO is one of my favorites.They did do a Carpenters cover. Though she (the Russian chick, who I hear is a big star in China) can sing pretty well, Karen was in a league of her own, at least in her own style. It sounds good, but it’s hard to compare it to the original. They Carpenters did a cover of Jambalaya by Hank Williams (a great song) and totally carpenterized it. That is why I mean by her style.
Boris #463375 June 24, 2025 9:02 am 4
Chuck Mangione – Feels so Good! And the theme song to the 1980 Winter Olympics @ Lake Placid, “Give it All You Got”. That DOES feel good!
KGB #463384 June 24, 2025 9:16 am 1
Don’t forget the theme toThe Canonball Run.
Jeffrey Zoar #463415 June 24, 2025 10:01 am 4
I recently made the mistake of watching that
Ostei Kozelskii #463467 June 24, 2025 11:40 am 2
Isn’t he the pappy of the dude who gunned down the big insurance exec in Manhattan?
Ostei Kozelskii #463465 June 24, 2025 11:38 am 7
Very good extended metaphor. However, I’ll take horns and strings over grunting mandrills and drum machines every day and twice on Sundays. And I’m not even a Boomer.
CorkyAgain #463535 June 24, 2025 2:39 pm 3
Well, Iwasborn during the Baby Boom (but am not a “Boomer” if that refers to a certain political mindset represented by Fox News or the Democrat establishment) and I never liked Chicago or BS&T. But I would still prefer them over gangsta rap or the over-the-top pretentious “styling” so many female singers seem to indulge in nowadays.
Alzaebo #463544 June 24, 2025 3:00 pm 3
“grunting mandrills” – you are a fookin’savage,mate.
Hi-ya #463611 June 25, 2025 6:43 am 0
I could t believe Iron Maiden and def leopard are still touring….with some of them shirtless!
Ostei Kozelskii #463421 June 24, 2025 10:12 am 12
A marvelous and unique article, Z-Man. In a serious nation, it would lead the Op-Ed section in the “paper of record.” As an aside, I get the same sense of Iran that you do. The Iran of 2025 is a far cry from the Iran of 1985, and far less dangerous. A nuclear-armed Iran in 1985 would have been a truly frightening thing. If you proved to me Iran had nukes right now, I’d yawn in your face.
Steve #463446 June 24, 2025 10:45 am 0
Me, too, but that would be because the past few months would be evidence that this level of provocation would not cause the nukes to fly. It’s why I don’t feel particularly nervous about Israel having nukes, either. Despite their 10/7 being much bigger event per capita than our 9/11, when other nations piled on with longer range missiles, they kept it conventional. It’s not popular to look on the positive Re: Israel, I know, but they are not the loose cannons many seem to fear, Samson Option on a hair trigger.
Compsci #463490 June 24, 2025 12:28 pm 2
The Sampson Option seems contradictory, or against self interest. Imagine nuking “friendly” countries because they don’t come to your aid when invaded. Perhaps *the* sure fire way to end any hope of survival and refuge for your citizens.
Alzaebo #463565 June 24, 2025 4:03 pm 0
They keep up that level of bombast because look who surrounds them: their relatives.
Mikew #463581 June 24, 2025 5:23 pm 4
Israel probably knew 10/7 was coming but regardless, killing 40,000 Gazans, many of them children, is no sign of restraint on their part . There was zero chance they were ever going to nuke someone after 10/7 .
ray #463508 June 24, 2025 1:24 pm 6
‘A marvelous and unique article, Z-Man. In a serious nation, it would lead the Op-Ed section in the “paper of record.”’ Seconded. Heckuva essay.
Alzaebo #463553 June 24, 2025 3:46 pm 0
The diaspora Iranians are excited and hopeful, they feel the grip of the Regime slipping. We forget that Shahs are a tradition going back to Cyrus. Even though the right insists on repeating Leftist tropes, Mossadegh and the Ayatollahs were the color revolutions.Thus the insistance on democracy, so criminals can bloc vote themselves into power.(Hint: the king protects his people and nationfrom the government.)I don’t see Israel openly fielding foreign militias to colonize other countries, or blocking the steets with noon prayer outside the mosques, or running brazen grooming gangs. They keep their crime quieter, bad enough as their proxies are, since it is a political tool.
Alzaebo #463563 June 24, 2025 4:00 pm 2
Addendum (unable to edit):Why would I give a fig about some foreign country? Because it weakens Israel’s hand in our country. It’s a clear sign that the neocon policy reigning since 1963 can be reversed, and that the Noticing is becoming a common trope. Let the sabotage be seen, let our enemies defeat each other and themselves.Might the messianic vision of catasrophe all Abrahamics teach go back to the wasteland – they are impelled to try to recreate the environment that created them.
Pickle Rick #463402 June 24, 2025 9:47 am 10
The only one missing is Yasir Arafat in his stupid red keffeyah doing the PLO Shuffle to complete the Old Men getting the 1979 band back together.
3 Pipe Problem #463418 June 24, 2025 10:05 am 7
Don’t forget G[K?]haddafi! No one rocked the uni, official or mufti, like the Grand Admiral of Libya
BuckinghamFountainMicturator #463432 June 24, 2025 10:24 am 9
He rocked the casbah.
Alzaebo #463567 June 24, 2025 4:13 pm 0
Drop your bombs ‘tween the minaretsDown the Casbah way-y-y….As soon as the Sharif was out of their hairThe jet pilots wa-a-aved… Did somebody say kayfabe?
BuckinghamFountainMicturator #463579 June 24, 2025 5:11 pm 0
Click on my reply to 3pipe and you’ll see his coolness as a dictator. Kim copied Libya. As one aspiring Great Leader myself, for the perks, the click source link is why we do it. Money ain’t bad neither.
Ostei Kozelskii #463609 June 24, 2025 9:47 pm 1
&f=1&nofb=1&ipt=8ed82caaa3cd01f78815a616410fb39eb190bcc54d748e14563458e312daa1ad It’s good to be the strongman…
ray #463381 June 24, 2025 9:14 am 10
‘ . . . United States is no longer a nation of people who optimistically look to the future. It is a land of old people and foreigners who fear what may lie ahead’Didn’t have children. Had feminism instead. Strutting, empowered, don’t-need-no man feminism. Indeed, the openly expressed goal of the Sixties feminists was destruction of the family and alienation of the fathers. They succeeded, almost without any fight whatsoever.That leaves a nation of spoiled-brat oldsters who must import Julio and Ngbuga to empty their bedpans and trim the hedges. Even as you say, they have money but live in fear.Few weeks back my buddy invited me to his son’s third birthday party. I was one old white dood in a sea of brown. He rented a bouncy castle for the numerous little ones. The whole front yard was full of happy, squealing kids, surrounded by generally poor but content elders.I left halfway through, tired, and as my buddy helped me to the car, a girl of about nine — some relative of somebody — hugged me and kissed me on the cheek.Sucks to be you.
Compsci #463443 June 24, 2025 10:36 am 2
Kids are kids all over. Seems you think that the folk who comment here have *no* children or grandchildren. This is not the case. That Whites are not at replacement rate does not necessarily mean that we are childless. So the comment, “Sucks to be you.”, seems out of place at best, abstract at worse.
Steve #463454 June 24, 2025 11:00 am 4
And even moreso, it’s important to understand WHO is below replacement. The shitlibs are way below. The future is people like my brother with 10 kids. Of my 6 sibs, the two bringing up the rear have 2, and both of them are shitlibs.
Compsci #463499 June 24, 2025 12:52 pm 0
Yeap, Ed Dutton has yet another book on the subject. Basically Conservatives will/do out reproduce Leftists. So as they say, the future is ours.
Ostei Kozelskii #463515 June 24, 2025 1:43 pm 8
Unfortunately, the Leftists use the institutions to convert our children into anti-white zealots. They don’t outbreed us, but they do outmaneuver us.
CorkyAgain #463540 June 24, 2025 2:47 pm 8
Many of us geezers have children but lost custody of them to their mothers, in whom feminism had taken root and who went on to turn the children against the now discarded fathers.
Ostei Kozelskii #463554 June 24, 2025 3:46 pm 3
I feel yer pain.
ray #463556 June 24, 2025 3:49 pm 1
Compsci sez even tho whites can’t replace themselves (hmm why might that be?), it doesn’t mean they are childless! Dammit!I guess he’s saying because the feminist generations produced a few kids here and there, shut up. Hey, Kids are kids all over he sez! Dunno what eggzakly that pertains to, but moving on.I’m saying the problem of barren generations is empowered women and neutered men, and he says there is no problem because look, some of us here have kids. Oh and p.s. don’t get snarky about it, because out of place.I think it’s v much in place.
Ben Thr Donthat #463871 June 26, 2025 6:49 am 0
Angelina Jolie is prime example and representative of the cluster B personality disorder evident in “modern” females. She is head rat of the unstable single mothers who harm their children and poison their relationships with their estranged fathers. These children, raised by such mothers, face end up whackier than the mother. Recently, Brad Pitt appeared on a podcast, reflecting calmly and introspectively life and past experiences in his sixties, but his ex-wife just couldn’t keep her mouth shut and had to throw her poison vomit on this innocuous reflection. Life without ‘em may not have the possibility of being as rich but if you avoid them you’ll benefit from the calm.
fakeemail #463537 June 24, 2025 2:44 pm 7
How TF do you take care of 10 kids? Seriously, i’m curious as I don’t quite know how a couple would take care of more than 3 without EXTENSIVE family support living very close by.
Ostei Kozelskii #463555 June 24, 2025 3:48 pm 8
Whipeepo used to do many things as a matter of course that now strike us as practically impossible. They were tough, hard and resourceful, whereas we are weak, soft and incompetent.
ray #463569 June 24, 2025 4:25 pm 5
My maternal grandparents had seven kids, that’s what it took to run a farm in south dakota. NOBODY was ‘liberated’ back then; everybody was oppressed by life. Back in those days, most everybody had extended families, usually living in the same town or at least county. Now? Most of the extended families are Messican, and nuclear families are dying as well. However, we DO have lots and lots of feminism and empowered females. Who often kill what children appear.
Steve #463598 June 24, 2025 6:26 pm 3
Plus homeschooling. And it was the same way it always was in the past — the older siblings had to grow up fast and help take care of their little brothers and sisters. It really is inspiring.. They have been a model to others in their community.
ray #463505 June 24, 2025 1:21 pm 0
I count on the fact that people here have children and grandchildren. Also that many men here have daughters and grand-daughters. To them I especially speak. Sucks to be you means your nation — and many of you — chose poorly and now must face old age without grandchildren. But it was, and is, a choice. I am pointing out the consequences of that choice. If it bothers you, tough.
CorkyAgain #463542 June 24, 2025 2:51 pm 2
As I suggested just a moment ago in my reply to Ostei, it wasn’t my choice. Nor was it a choice for many of my contemporaries. As she would often say, “This isn’t something where you get to choose. You’ll just have to live with it.”
ray #463566 June 24, 2025 4:04 pm 3
I wasn’t clear. I was not saying that childlessness was the choice, but the promotion and encouragement of feminism, liberated women, and second-class citizenship men was the errant choice. And a choice made again and again over five decades.While their country was being taken over by empowered girls and women, men on the Right overwhelmingly either were complicit, or silently tolerant. THAT is the choice the doomed the birthrate, and the nation.What resulted from that choice was an inability of the rest of us to have wives not empowered and weaponized against us, and children that would not be stolen from us by Team Woman and her State.
CorkyAgain #463571 June 24, 2025 4:27 pm 1
Well, I was neither silent nor tolerant but all it got me was a no-fault divorce (which she justified as a “liberating” response to my traditionalist attitudes). You seem to be under the mistaken impression that men on the right had much “agency” in these situations, which tells me that you probably didn’t live through it yourself.
ray #463603 June 24, 2025 7:12 pm 2
I lived through false accusation on multiple occasions, and false arrest and imprisonment on one occasion. I lived through plenty.I am not under the impression such men had agency vis a vis females and their collective power. I am saying that many millions of Rightie men — many with daughters who would greatly benefit from institutional feminism — either embraced and furthered the gynarchy, or stood silent while women took over everything.ALL of us had the agency over the past 4 decades to speak up and out about what was going on. Only a tiny percentage of Rightie men availed themselves of that opportunity, which is tantamount to brotherly betrayal.I cannot explain it any simpler than that and I am done with this thread.
CorkyAgain #463607 June 24, 2025 8:44 pm 0
I cannot explain it any simpler than that and I am done with this thread. Me too.
Ostei Kozelskii #463417 June 24, 2025 10:05 am 7
“Hollow men will fill their souls with anything to avoid hearing the sound of their hollowness.” Lapidary. Positively lapidary.
ray #463374 June 24, 2025 9:01 am 7
‘While Israel fertility is above replacement, it is largely due to the ultra-orthodox (Haredi). Their fertility rate is a whopping 6.48 children per woman. Meanwhile, the Westernized, cosmopolitan population has a below replacement TFR’Hm hm hm (skritching head) now whyever would that be?Cosmo West = feminism = no children = deathOrthodox Abrahamic = no feminism = children = lifePut in Christian terms . . . well, what Christianity used to be, anyway . . . the religion of the West is not Christianity, but Feminism. And feminism is a death cult.It is a high price to pay so that princesses can parade around for a few generations ordering everybody about, pretending to be men.. . . and that strike and then immediate call for peace? it don’t get any more chickadee than that.
Xman #463488 June 24, 2025 12:23 pm 8
the religion of the West is not Christianity, but Feminism. And feminism is a death cult. Yes, This is why I have been saying that the West is as much an ideological communist society as the USSR was. What is different is that it’s not industrial/proletarian communism… it’s race and gender communism.
ray #463604 June 24, 2025 7:40 pm 3
Indeed. Just as Yuri Bezmenov noted. The USSR ended up conquering us, it just happened to be dead when it was accomplished. And it was done via sex/gender and race — the core of Identity Politics or Progressivism. Even as you said.
Alzaebo #463570 June 24, 2025 4:26 pm 3
Of course, this misses the key element of Feminism – it wasn’t like White women spontaneously thought this one up on their own. In fact, I just heard a faded interview with a British centenarian describing the Victorian age she had grown up in: “Pfah! Women didn’t work in those days!” Allow me to amend your truthful statement:Children for me, but not for thee
ray #463605 June 24, 2025 7:45 pm 1
Well you’re right about white women — or women generally — not thinking up rebellion against God and man on their own. They had help, and powerful help it was, going right on back to the beginning. Scripture covers it in Genesis. We are still fighting the same fight all these millennia later.
MikeCLT #463372 June 24, 2025 8:58 am 7
Turkey may be the next enemy for our greatest ally.
BuckinghamFountainMicturator #463380 June 24, 2025 9:11 am 6
Whereas for me with havarti on seeded rye it’s just lunch.
Ostei Kozelskii #463541 June 24, 2025 2:49 pm 2
A dab of Duke’s Mayo and a few slices of center-cut bacon’ll do that sandwich a power o’ good.
Jeffrey Zoar #463389 June 24, 2025 9:29 am 1
If it’s rigged like this “war,” then it could be successful. But if not, trouble.
Alzaebo #463575 June 24, 2025 4:38 pm 0
Yup. Iran may be Country #6, but the Clean Break people are already crowing about Turkey and Pakistan. Sisi in Egypt watches them with the gimlet eye. I say good. Turkey and Pakistan’s armies are way too big. Saddam’s was, unfortunately a jobs program, and Iran has way too many missiles for peaceful protesting. Plus, the front lines are where all these guys get rid of their dissidents. Ok, Israel. We pay you a lot of money – now do your damn job, start disrupting, and stop pushing them into Europe, or we’ll cast you into the fires you set.
G Lordon Giddy #463383 June 24, 2025 9:16 am 6
What i saw militarily is America has air power, and thats about it. Excluding some small competent special forces America probably has little ability to project force on the ground nor would the American people tolerate human losses. The scum in DC and Fox News like Mark Levin would cheer but not the people if large sacrifices on the ground were required. We had better hope the stealth technology stays ahead of the Air Defense technology. But perhaps nations like Iran will succomb to moderninity and be sharing pride month celebrations with Tel Aviv and New York. Who knows?
NoName #463392 June 24, 2025 9:33 am 11
ray: “West = feminism = no children = death Orthodox Abrahamic = no feminism = children = life”
Jack Dodson #463474 June 24, 2025 11:47 am 18
That star is so superfluous.
ray #463513 June 24, 2025 1:40 pm 5
As I’ve noted on this site previously, ‘Jewish’ women were vastly overrepresented in early Twentieth-Century feminism. . . like rogue Quaker women back when the feminist movement began. After the19th, Jewish females often were movers and shakers.My personal fave back then was Hella Assbug, er I mean Bella Abzug, an odious and crisply toxic presence who softened her Inner Fuhrer look with gaily festooned hats. You know, like the festive scarves of Debbie ‘Plague Darlin’ Birx.&f=1&nofb=1&ipt=9a5e20efe6d2462b422e81bddabdd2123f8bbe7fa57a778fdfcb4ed3dd27e7d8Ah, ring me back the years . . . anyway, women writers on ‘conservative outlets’ (looking at you gateway pundit) waxing deific about Darlin’ Debby, how she stood Tall next to Foolja Fauci, how she projected the confidence of female leadership and the empowerment of blah blah etc.I did not read any retraction articles when the truth about Little Debbie came out. Nor any prosecutions of team titan, Fauci and Birx. That encourages further criminal activity in the name of Helping People.
Hi-ya #463612 June 25, 2025 6:48 am 1
Jeepers look at that schnoz
karl von hungus #463437 June 24, 2025 10:30 am 9
our naval capacity is pretty marginal now, too. mostly obsolete carriers with incompetent crews.
Ostei Kozelskii #463536 June 24, 2025 2:44 pm 6
Admiral Quan’Deeshia is as likely to plow the USS Buttsex into the Delaware Memorial Bridge as sail it smoothly through the Straits of Hormuz.
The Wild Geese Howard #463549 June 24, 2025 3:36 pm 5
Anyone else notice the latest rumors that the Iran nuclear bomb reports used to justify the B2 strike were essentially an AI hallucination courtesy of Palantir? Just when I thought I hated this timeline enough.
A Bad Man #463425 June 24, 2025 10:16 am 5
I just feel this is all theater, exploiting stupid people. Granted, the stupid people sometimes kill other stupid people and non stupid people. Imagine a war where no one showed up.
Alzaebo #463568 June 24, 2025 4:18 pm 1
I can imagine a war where no one shows up:Robot Wars!
Bilejones #463595 June 24, 2025 6:08 pm 1
Don’t forget to chant this.All vows, and prohibitions, and oaths, and consecrations, andkonameiandkinuseiand synonymous terms,[5]that we may vow, or swear, or consecrate, or prohibit upon ourselves, •from the previous Day of Atonement until this Day of Atonement and …• ♦from this Day of Atonement until the [next] Day of Atonement that will come for our benefit.♦ Regarding all of them, we repudiate them. All of them are undone, abandoned, cancelled, null and void, not in force, and not in effect. Our vows are no longer vows, and our prohibitions are no longer prohibitions, and our oaths are no longer oaths.Oh, and chant it three times, just in case God isn’t listening.We wouldn’t want him to think you were going to stop being a lying bastard.
Mad Celt #463594 June 24, 2025 6:08 pm 1
The US is desperate for an excuse to change Iran’s regime.
Hokkoda #463528 June 24, 2025 2:24 pm 1
By bombing the nuke sites, and then hearing the chorus immediately begin to sign “regime change”, Trump proved that it was never about the nukes.It was always about re-igniting the land war in Asia.And then he came out today and F-bombed Netanyahu and in a few words encapsulated what so many people think and feel, “They’ve been fighting so long, they don’t know what the f$$k they are doing!” Then he look led at the shill reporter and yelled, “Do you understand, now?”People like me were worried that Israel had taken control of Trump. He thumped them today in a way that will ripple for many years.I’ve come full circle and am back to believing Trump wants an Israel/Iran version of the Israel/Egypt peace treaty. His goal? To foreclose on war in that region not just for his presidency, but for generations.
Justinian #464150 June 27, 2025 10:13 am 0
Z, there is no 3 great civilizations of 3 great religions .There is only 2 .Christianity and Islam. The Jews never build or established any civilization great or small .
Celticbiker #464006 June 26, 2025 6:59 pm 0
Jew fatigue. The biggest assholes on earth, with the monopoly on $, have managed to turn the world to shit. Creating Hell on earth to usher in their messiah. That’s why they injected billions with the jewjab. Rob the Goyim, then destroy em. Pick any Evil, there’s a jew at the center of it. Everyone can sense the enormity of what is coming because this delusional, psychopathic system cannot stand.
Alzaebo #463539 June 24, 2025 2:47 pm 0
Since we’re conditioned to accept defeat and the framing of the Left, we begrudge according a victory to anyone on our side.Here’s the Treehouse’s take on what many are calling the kayfabe.Bibi, that snake, set a trap and Trump deftly sidestepped it.Even though we doubt everything we see and hear – the surrender conditioning is working – the latest kicked off when the IAEA announced Iran had exceeded enrichment guidelines. The militaries accept the idea that what we call fake is real – that’s their job, after all – and responded accordingly.Sundance’s take:President Trump Outwitted Benjamin Netanyahu – The “12 Day War” is Over!President Trump didn’t want to escalate with Iran. Netanyahu forced President Trump into a supportive box with attacks against Iran. President Trump responded with a public hug to Bibi and eventually a U.S. bombing of the Iran nuclear sites.Israel was big happy.However, Trump’s emissary Steve Witkoffnever stopped communicatingwith Iran on peace approach, and negotiated/coordinated a face-saving Iranian retaliation via a happy to oblige Qatar.Iran retaliated against the USA support for Israel with a pre-planned attack on a U.S. base in Qatar, which was easily managed. Iran saves face against evil Trump.(Easy Peasy – Iran Retaliates With Missiles Targeting Previously Evacuated Al Udeid Air Base in Qatar, then declares ceasefire at 3:59 a.m. to abide by the agreement.)Meanwhile, loyal friend to Israel, Trump has facilitated the request of Bibi.Diplomacy now returns sans operational nuclear sites. No regime change.Prime Minister Netanyahu and Israeli lobbyist Mark Levin are furious.
Zulu Juliet #463558 June 24, 2025 3:52 pm 5
Taking the most positive spin on this possible; If Trump does walk away from the Twelve Day War, it would be a great blueprint for walking away from the Three And A Half Years War. Leave the fools to keep shooting at each other since “they don’t know what the f**k they are doing”, and mind our own affairs at home. I mean good golly, there is practically a shooting war in LA between ICE and the Peasant Army. Work on that [and no cease-fire on that one, please].
Hi-ya #463613 June 25, 2025 6:59 am 0
Scott Adams is positive about the events toofrom what I can tell
Pam Hyde #463400 June 24, 2025 9:41 am -5
Israel is a country in the Middle East. It exists next to another country called Iran. Iran is a bigger country. Iran is a powerful country. Iran decided to invade a smaller country called Israel. So, basically, that’s wrong
Vizzini #463403 June 24, 2025 9:48 am 20
It exists next to another country called Iran. Israel is not next to Iran. Iran decided to invade a smaller country called Israel. Iran has never invaded Israel.
John k #463419 June 24, 2025 10:07 am 19
It’s just a joke making fun of our past VP (I already forgot her name) describing Ukraine war
Vizzini #463426 June 24, 2025 10:17 am 5
I see. I vaguely remember that statement, now.
Alzaebo #463588 June 24, 2025 5:45 pm 1
We needn’t worry.Kamala’s busy doing math calculations for the Mars shot!
Compsci #463455 June 24, 2025 11:01 am -2
Yeah, it’s kind of hard to argue with such misunderstanding of basic history and geography. Be kind, Pam is most likely a recent product of our American educational institution. As such, she speaks from profound ignorance.
Steve #463460 June 24, 2025 11:15 am 9
It was a joke.
Compsci #463494 June 24, 2025 12:39 pm 7
My apologies to Pam and my admitted chagrin for my ignorance of the last VP’s statements on the issue. Cultural literacy failure on my part.
Alzaebo #463590 June 24, 2025 5:47 pm 3
*ahem* The very name “Pam Hyde” is a joke – it’s a riff on Sam Hyde, the notorious author of the “…and they think it’s funny” meme.
Ostei Kozelskii #463610 June 24, 2025 9:52 pm 2
What a box of tricks this poster is.
Darryl Licht #463602 June 24, 2025 7:08 pm 1
Take a deep breath before going full sperg.
Mr. Invisible #463413 June 24, 2025 9:59 am 1
The hasbarists will be busy today in the US. You are losing support, day by day, imperceptible now, but in a few years, enough to end this “special relationship.” Your words will change nothing.
Pam Hyde #463442 June 24, 2025 10:35 am 6
We are not in a relationship, Mr. Invisible, let alone a special one. But I am flattered.
Ham Pied #463482 June 24, 2025 12:00 pm 3
Humor is generally poorly received in these hare parts. Dunno why. Because in most other respects Z’s commentariot is one of the best online.
Ostei Kozelskii #463560 June 24, 2025 3:55 pm 2
Do cut us some slack. For those of us who don’t closely follow mainstream politics, your reference was rather obscure. Like Compsci, I didn’t get it.
Alzaebo #463591 June 24, 2025 5:52 pm 0
Sargeant Schultz’s voice:“Your vurds vill change nutzing…nutzing!”
Jannie #463470 June 24, 2025 11:45 am 6
Funny to see the contrast between the last VP – who was basically shunted aside as something of an embarrassment – and our current one, who is more heavily involved in events than any other VP I can remember.
Compsci #463495 June 24, 2025 12:42 pm 1
I think that’s an issue of “gravitas”. Cackling Harris was a bad look. She could have been a “rocket scientist”, but with that nervous trait of cackling….
Ostei Kozelskii #463561 June 24, 2025 3:56 pm 0
She could have been a rocket scientist in a Hollywood fantasy promoted as the Gospel.
Hi-ya #463614 June 25, 2025 7:00 am 0
He’s telling a joke! Upvote! It’s Kamala!
Pip McGuigin #463387 June 24, 2025 9:25 am -14
This entire column is magnificent flapdoodle. Gibberish and non-factual.A curse on you!
Vizzini #463404 June 24, 2025 9:49 am 14
Please point out the parts that are incorrect instead of polishing your 19th century slang.
Alzaebo #463584 June 24, 2025 5:41 pm 1
“When you can’t argue the facts, fling the poo.”
Mr. Invisible #463414 June 24, 2025 9:59 am 3
Will a dark cloud hang over Schlomo’s house until restitution is paid?
Compsci #463435 June 24, 2025 10:28 am 8
Amusing, but still meaningless comment. I shall note your pseudonym for future ignoring.
Alzaebo #463586 June 24, 2025 5:41 pm 0
The Ignoring advances!
Zaphod #463562 June 24, 2025 4:00 pm 1
Take it easy, Peachy.
ronetc #463409 June 24, 2025 9:54 am -20
“The cause of the war, of course, was the sneak attack by Israel” . . . so, nothing at all about Iranian behavior, all the terror-promoting Death to Israel and Death America stuff since 1979? Not to mention the of course completely peaceful uranium processing. “Israel is a tiny country, while Iran is a big country, so any war between the two will be lopsided.” As if population and land mass are the only determinants in a war, nothing about technology and character of the combatants. Seems perhaps a bit reductive.
Mr. Invisible #463411 June 24, 2025 9:57 am 14
You want to open up a discussion of Israeli character during their “wars?” Go to it.
Compsci #463453 June 24, 2025 10:57 am 7
Countries are never truly defeated until they are occupied and controlled by a new population. It may take time, but as was shown by the British occupation of India—the British, after an occupation of 100 years or so, were eventually defeated/ousted and left India to the Indians. This is how I see the situation wrt to Israel vs Iran—Israel can never hope to control such a country as Iran. It also takes into the account that in some respects, Iran is an older civilization/people than perhaps Israel. They’ve succeeded in fending off destruction for millennia.Ironically, and tragically, my observation also applies to the country I was born in—the United States. Here, however, we (White founders) *are* being replaced by a new population (Brown muds). If/when such is accomplished the country will continue to exist in name only, but can never be what it once was.
Steve #463459 June 24, 2025 11:14 am 5
I know you aren’t in quite the same camp as many here, but most would point out it doesn’t really require occupation, but merely corruption of the youth, which, again based on commentariat, happens in as little as a single generation.
Compsci #463492 June 24, 2025 12:31 pm 0
Point well taken.
jake #463489 June 24, 2025 12:25 pm 0
America is reverting to its natural state.
Alzaebo #463583 June 24, 2025 5:29 pm 0
Nobody will make it past the shield wall of the Zagros Mountains. Even though their armies, surprisingly, are about the same size – a bit over 400,000 each – they’d have to cross the Arab lands first.That’s why they resorted to an extensive spy network in Iran, killing the mob bosses, and used HST to clear Syrian air defenses.It’s about taking out the regime – the Islamist Lenin they put in to keep Iran from being a better free country than they were went rogue and started attacking them (by their lights) in Beirut in 1982.They’re trying to clean up the mess they helped make in ’79, with Jimmah and Bush acting at AIPAC’s direction. It started when Kissinger advised the Shah to quadruple the oil price per barrel in ’72-3 from 25 cents to $1, hoping to get a cut of that OPEC action with the Eilat-Ashkelon pipeline to Iran. This is old men rehashing their youth.
Stephanie #463456 June 24, 2025 11:06 am 19
“…all the terror-promoting Death to Israel and Death America stuff since 1979?”That’s a long time and kind of invalidates your point. I can live with Iranian mullahs screaming death to America for 45 years, I can’t live with more American soldiers coming home missing limbs, burnt beyond recognition, in coffins, or suffering PTSD while thrown out in the streets like trash, and all for nothing as these ancient conflicts never end and most of all, they really don’t want them to end. It’s what they live for but want us to die for.The character of the combatants is the same: Blood thirsty Desert-religion, sexually sadistic nutjobs.
Jack Dodson #463475 June 24, 2025 11:52 am 9
Preach it. I want total disengagement from these Bronze Age savages, and it looks like that is a popular position now.
Compsci #463493 June 24, 2025 12:36 pm 2
Part of the “disengagement” or perhaps most, is that these wars of regime change were failures. The concept was a failure to begin with and showed a profound misunderstanding of human nature. Therefore, all the lives wasted and ruined, i.e., their sacrifice comes to naught. Note that no one decries WWII and the almost 500k killed in the same vane. The public (dirt people) that suffered the most have caught wise.
Jack Dodson #463543 June 24, 2025 2:56 pm 4
I fantasize way too much about a Gold Star mom clutching her hidden piece at the funeral, waiting for a senator or congressman or other convenient political hack to approach her and offer condolences.
Casimir #463564 June 24, 2025 4:01 pm 7
“character of the combatants” Like the IDF soldiers that relish in raping prisoners? Or sniping pregnant women for the old two for one? That kind of character? I love how you dolts think saying ‘death to america’ is grounds for war. It’s always back to 1979. Lets go back to 1953 if you want to play that game. Genuinely I can’t get over how horrible your propaganda has become. You assume you have a captured audience of Fox News watching geriatrics with room temperature IQ’s.
Alzaebo #463578 June 24, 2025 5:06 pm 0
Well, it gets awfully boring watching European diplomats and aid workers enrich themselves with fancy jobs and digs, while they pretend to do something. The interminable talks have done nothing to slow the aggression – nobody is calling Iran a colonizer – and actually reward the mafiosi who took over.They could be making their famous Persian wines, or fabrics, but nah. Who are we to say they can’t make missiles and pay Hezbollah to occupy Lebanon?! Or a nuclear program that we own the patents on? That’s Islamic capitalism!Besides, it gave Bibi a chance to stab his benefactor in the back, and slap those Evangelical Christians in the face.
Vizzini #463587 June 24, 2025 5:43 pm 2
“For no reason at all.”
Mikew #463593 June 24, 2025 6:01 pm 6
History didn’t begin in 79. Also from 80 to 88 we helped Iraq attack Iran. In fact we gave Saadam the tech for making chemical weapons to kill Iranians. In 88 our navy ship shot down an Iranian airliner. On and on
Xman #463608 June 24, 2025 9:29 pm 2
One need not side with Iran to recognize the aggression of Israeli policy.


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