Then What?

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One of the critical questions in any strategy is “Then what?” This question must be asked with every proposed move and counter move. The question is both a reminder and an assumption that the other players will react to your move. Good strategy focuses on the range of possibilities to each move and is prepared for them. Bad strategy just assumes the move will work and good things will flow from it. This is often referred to as the lack of second-order thinking.

For the last five years this has been at the center of American politics. The regime has clearly lost the ability to ask, much less answer the question, “Then what?” The war in Ukraine is in its fourth year because no one in the West could bother to ask the question, much less answer it. President Trump now has himself in a terrible jam because no one on his team thought to ask this question when they were plotting the Pearl Harbor style sneak attack on Iran.

It does not appear that any of them asked the question when planning the operation against the Iranian bunker facilities. By the looks of it, they settled on this attack because they assumed it would satisfy the Israelis, satisfy the crazies in Washington screaming for blood and provide an off-ramp in the conflict. Signaling to Iran that it was a one-time thing was supposed to induce them back to the bargaining table or at least encourage them to seek a cease fire in the war.

The assumed answer to the magic question was all the good things the administration needs to happen in order to wriggle free from this trap. Perhaps sensing that it was not the magic bullet, they immediately started to beg China to pressure Iran into not closing the Strait of Hormuz. Presumably they asked the Russians to do the same thing, as the Iranian foreign minister is in Moscow this week. Closing the strait would bring the whole thing crashing down on Trump’s head.

While the Iranians are prepared to close the strait, they have not done so, but they continue to send missiles at Israel and Israel is firing back. It is clear that the Iranians are not going to come back to the bargaining table, and they have no intention of ending the war with Israel. Of course, Israel is now demanding more strikes because it was never about Iranian nukes for them. It was always about inducing the United States into a ground war to topple the Iranian government.

President Trump is justifiably getting savaged by his voters, but in fairness to him he now lives in a town that operates like Jonestown. Everyone worships Israel or at least pretends they worship Israel. It is beyond creepy to see everyone in Washington act like Israel is the god of the world. Some sort of mass psychosis has swept the ruling class where they are convinced that their purpose in life is to serve the needs of this flyspeck of a country halfway around the world.

That just makes the crisis worse for the Trump administration. Even if they can have a moment of clarity and see the danger, they are limited in their options. If they do no more than provide support for Israel, they remain entangled in a war of attrition, while the crazies scream for blood, holding the domestic agenda hostage. They cannot make a deal with Iran, as the Israel lobby will never permit it. The only way out is to end the Israel lobby and that means tanks in the streets.

That is the thing about the question at the start. It not only forces the person answering it to think about the possible reactions from the other players, but it forces them to think clearly about the other players. If the Trump people had a realistic understanding of Israel and the Israel lobby, they would know they are dealing with hostile aliens who look at the United States as a Walmart during a ghetto riot. They would know how to treat them as adversaries, rather than allies or clients.

The same can be said for the approach to Ukraine. That has been pushed off to the side, but the neocons have not gone away. As things reach a critical point in the war this autumn, they will be back to extort the Trump admin. Given the duplicity of the Republican Party, the big, beautiful bill will probably still be held hostage in the Senate come the autumn, so it will be another round of extortion in order to give the neocons what they want in the war against Russia.

In a way, the crisis engulfing the Trump administration in the realm of foreign policy is a microcosm of what faces America. The MAGA movement finally got their man into the White House with the clear support of the public. There is a team in place that can execute the domestic agenda. Then what? The answer so far has been a revolt in the judiciary against the Trump agenda, the Republican Party holding his legislative agenda hostage, and the usual suspects subverting his foreign policy.

Cancer does not leave the body just because the body voted to live. The cancer must be removed and that is the answer to the question, “Then what?” That appears to be impossible within the current rules, which brings us back to the question that seems to haunt this age. The current crisis is a gordian knot that cannot be untied within the rules of the system, so then what? For now, the Trump people do not have the answer, but the answer is there, just waiting its turn.


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306 Comments

RealityRules #463066 June 23, 2025 8:23 am 96
I hadn’t paid attention to Tammy Bruce. A scissor sister who was the head of NOW back in the day. The farcical character of this rotten system gets more extreme every day.Let’s look at the objective reality of this. The spokeslesbian of the United States State Department, as appointed by the America First President just stated that Israel is the greatest country on earth.The country is gone. Of course, ten days ago there was a metropolitan provincial uprising in a major American port city. A colonizing population revolted against the enforcement of our laws and the provincial governor sided with the colonists. The homeland government of the colonists openly called for their colonists to rebel and vote to strike down taxes on the remittances, the extraction of American wealth sent to the colonizer’s homeland. It also openly declared its hostility by declaring our borders illegitimate and declared their intent to reclaim a territory we acquired through purchase. That territory amounts to 1/3rd of the total territory of the United States. There are over 60 million of the colonizers settled in the United States.What is the United States doing about it? Has it declared war? Has it moved to immediately sanction Mexico and the other Latin American states with their colonizers in America? Has it declared a state of emergency due to a hostile invasion and sent urgent diplomatic missions to those countries? Isn’t the Secretary of State a Latin American? How is he compromised due to this?I could go on. My fellow dissidents you know this. Nope. America must send its armies to the Levant and show everyone, including the seething Historic American Nation, that America First as led by Donald Trump is a farce.I am glad you used the Gordian Knot reference. We don’t need an American Caesar. We need an American Alexander. It is time to stop goofing around, to pull out the sword and do what must be done to save Our country and Our people.
Barnard #463091 June 23, 2025 8:53 am 34
I had no idea Tammy Bruce was at the State Department until this video came out. Who would know more about diplomacy than a Cable TV talking head who flips her political affiliation whenever it suites her best? A completely useless person outside the politician system who is there simply to recite lines for the camera. I keep thinking the system has to collapse, but it staggers on even as it gets more and more absurd.
TempoNick #463128 June 23, 2025 9:34 am 20
I know I have the minority opinion on this, but Trump hiring all these vapid TV talking head figureheads leads me to believe that somebody else is in charge. These people are largely TV talent. What does a TV host know about running things?
Barnard #463169 June 23, 2025 10:27 am 17
Of course someone else is in charge, but who and what are their motives? What oversight do they have and how would they be replaced? It all points to signs of an unhealthy system that can’t continue much longer, but yet it does.
Jack Dodson #463174 June 23, 2025 10:33 am 25
Not at all minority. Of course our elected leadership are puppets; Trump is a somewhat more sentient Biden.
Moran ya Simba #463254 June 23, 2025 2:34 pm 13
I want to sell a bridge to anyone who thinks Trump is in charge. I’m sorry but how many layers of denial can people hold??
ray #463137 June 23, 2025 9:43 am 30
Next, we may expect to see Megan Kelly running shops at State. Sounds like the State Department has become just another coven. What a joke of a nation.
Steve W #463305 June 23, 2025 6:22 pm 14
Tammy is the “out and proud lesbian” who is also a “conservative”. I’ve heard her in years past. She’s got the Sean Hannity “talking points” handbook right in front of her, and she sauces it up a bit. I hate all these people. They’re all “paid conservatives” much as circus clowns are “paid clowns”. Not one of them has objected to the bombings of Iran. Nope, not there in the playbook. All these people hate Tucker Carlson now, because he is not buying into this stupidity. And to think I used to believe that NPCs were just lefties.
Xman #463308 June 23, 2025 6:37 pm 9
“Conservative pro-choice lesbian,” LOL.
Luthers Turd #463514 June 24, 2025 1:41 pm 0
I think Mr. Br?uce is a member of the tribe. That explains the Isreal statement.
TempoNick #463098 June 23, 2025 8:57 am 20
I saw that clip. Is she a Jew? Is she trolling us? Is she trolling them?
Alzaebo #463284 June 23, 2025 4:21 pm 1
(She’s an Italian Catholic. She started with a little radio show in Los Angeles. This is a media war, so Trump is recruiting outside talent. Those talk-show people? They had to hold their own and defend their arguments in front of a live audience. If you couldn’t keep that audience, you were out. Girlfren has had a lot of experience doing exactly what she is doing now. She was a national political organizer too. Plus, well, when she was young, babe wassmokin’.)
The Infant Phenomenon #463120 June 23, 2025 9:27 am 7
Brilliantly stated!
Mycale #463158 June 23, 2025 10:09 am 33
If you go back and look at the transcript of Trump’s speech after the bombing, you will see he always mentions Israel before he does the US, every time. He congratulates Netanyahu before any American official. He congratulates the IDF before he does the US military. He says “God Bless Israel” before he says “God Bless America.” If I didn’t know better, I would say that someone on his speechwriting team is on our side because it just sounded horrible and so obvious while he was saying it.
Winter #463239 June 23, 2025 1:28 pm 9
“If I didn’t know better, I would say that someone on his speechwriting team is on our side because it just sounded horrible and so obvious while he was saying it.” Or, like Ben Shapiro and Mark Levin, they consider Israel to be more important and are utterly blind to how this comes across. That being said, I wouldn’t rule your theory out. The whole thing was a disgrace.
Bruno the Arrogant #463248 June 23, 2025 1:55 pm 17
Listening to our elected officials extolling the virtues of Israel, you’d be forgiven for thinking you were listening in on a hostage situation.
Vizzini #463161 June 23, 2025 10:18 am 57
Never trust a fag. Sexual degeneracy is always a symptom of deep moral corruption.
Ostei Kozelskii #463170 June 23, 2025 10:27 am 46
It’s also a sign of profound mental instability.
Templar #463246 June 23, 2025 1:47 pm 14
Homosexuality is almost always one paraphilia in the midst of others present in the same damaged psyche.
Mike Tre #463356 June 24, 2025 8:05 am 1
It also drives every priority they have and every decision they make.
Dutchboy #463164 June 23, 2025 10:23 am 26
Then again, she has clarified the attitude in Washington for all to hear: the USA is the greatest country in the world, after Israel.
TempoNick #463261 June 23, 2025 2:40 pm 4
What do you think happened? -A troll?-A dyslexic moment?-flattery to the guests?-she let her guard down and spoke honestly?-she didn’t think anybody would see it in the US because it was Israeli TV?-is Tammy Bruce really (((Tammy Bruce)))?
Steve W #463304 June 23, 2025 6:13 pm 8
Well, thank you, RR. That was an upper deck home run.This morning I heard a clip of Vance explaining that destroying the Iranian nuclear program is squarely in the national interest. Why? Because Iran having nuclear weapons would be “terrible” for the US. He did not go on to explain why that would be, in fact, terrible, for the US or for that matter, any other country.Wikipedia informs me that Iran is the world’s 17th largest country both in land mass and population, and that Israel checks in, respectively, at 149th and 93rd. Let’s have some fun, and check out, say, the Democratic Republic of Congo. 15th and 11th, respectively. Haven’t heard much news from the DRC lately; must be things are hunky dory there.Indonesia (14,4) doesn’t make the news, ever, unless a tsunami wipes out a couple hundred thousand people every so often. Fourth most populous country? Hmm, well India and China beat them, obviously, and then… o look! The USA! One might think that our relations with Indonesia would matter – and maybe they do, to someone in the resource extraction and slave labor business, as the Japanese and the Dutch used to be before ‘new management’.Moral: if it is a vital American interest to wipe out the Iranian weapons program, what if Indonesia or Congo decides to go for it too? (OK, Congo, it would be something like “the old negro nuclear program”.)Seriously. The history of nuclear proliferation shows, clearly, that the USSR took non-proliferation seriously, unlike the USA. Britain and France were “helped”; China was not. The last thing that the Soviets wanted was that the Chinese had nuclear capability. It’s hard to imagine India or Pakistan figuring this out on their own; at a guess, India worked it out, then certain “helpers” from the US saw to it that the Pakis could fire back.And then there is the “Sampson Option”. What is that, exactly? If Israel possesses this “option” then it came to them from the USA. And now the possessors of said option, andtheir sugar daddy, call Iranian capability “terrible”. And yep, right on cue many of my normiecon friends and relatives are anti-Tucker now because he has called bullshit on it all.So, the strategic bombing of Germany did not demoralize the people, or even cripple (until late in the war) Germany’s military productivity. Millions of leaflets were dumped out of the B-17s, explaining that “we just want peace”. Look at Iran now. If I were an Iranian at this moment, I would want retribution. It’s not Iike Iran is going anywhere; after all the “surgical strikes” its government, society and infrastructure will remain intact. PIssed off, and proud.Under the current ruler it is all but illegal to question loyalties at this point. America is nowadays something like Poland after its partition between empires: some of it belongs to China, some of it belongs to Israel, some of it belongs to the Cartels, and a bunch of it belongs to Blackrock or similar “wealth managers”.
Xman #463309 June 23, 2025 6:41 pm 3
“This morning I heard a clip of Vance explaining that destroying the Iranian nuclear program is squarely in the national interest.” LOL what fucking pure rubbish. What are the Iranians gonna do… nuke Menomonee Falls?
Robbo #463377 June 24, 2025 9:05 am 0
What we actually need is an American Pinochet.
TempoNick #463096 June 23, 2025 8:56 am 71
Three comments today:1. One thing I noticed over the weekend just from scanning normie comments in the local paper is that they think MAGA is all in on bombing Iran. When I tried explaining to people that John Bolton, Tom Cotton, Ted Cruz and Zioclops Dan Cuckshaw are not MAGA, I know I was getting blank stairs on the other side of that keyboard.2. People on the non-establishment right were livid about what was going on, including me. I’ve been so radicalized by these buffoons, and I am actively cheering for Iran to get nukes so that nobody can push them around anymore. This is exactly the same split that happened on the right when Drunken W bumbled into Iraq. They never learn from the past.3. I’m not voting anymore. It’s not even worth the effort. We’re never going to do better than Trump and the system is aligned against our priorities. This country is flatlining.
Compsci #463111 June 23, 2025 9:13 am 31
Voting tells you that you’ll been suckered into the “game” once again. Been there done, that.
Jeffrey Zoar #463117 June 23, 2025 9:22 am 29
I’m getting comfortable being a single issue voter (immigration). For all the talk of no difference in the uniparties, there was one in that respect. If there isn’t, then I’ll stay home.
DLS #463141 June 23, 2025 9:45 am 12
Same for me. My single issue used to be judges, but then we got Kennedy, Souter, Roberts, Kavanaugh and Barrett. Republican appointees are about 50/50, while Democrats are 100/0.
Dutchboy #463172 June 23, 2025 10:29 am 15
Immigration is the key to all the other issues. I live in California and the immivasion has changed the politics here radically.
Ostei Kozelskii #463200 June 23, 2025 11:48 am 13
I imagine the immivasion has changedeverythingradically. And not for the better.
Ivan #463327 June 23, 2025 8:45 pm 0
“the immivasion has changed everything” How so ? Hopefully against the invaders and their enablers.
Compsci #463213 June 23, 2025 12:25 pm 15
Pausing illegal immigration is *not* rolling it back. The average voter needs to learn the difference and “catch wise”. It is quite possible to stop illegal immigration, or reduce to negligible proportion of entrants, deport a million or two IA’s through whatever means, and at the end of Presidency have 13 to 18M IA’s firmly ensconced in American society. The next President can “do a Biden” or worse, “a Reagan” and we are not better off, perhaps worse off, than if we’d done nothing at all under Trump.To imply that voting for Trump due to “immigration” was a “good” reason to vote, is not yet a known fact, but a work in progress. Success cannot yet be evaluated.Disclaimer: I too voted for Trump.
TempoNick #463255 June 23, 2025 2:34 pm 25
When you realize that basically everything you were taught in school about our government is a bunch of BS, you can’t help but be cynical. I am also angry for being suckered all these years.
Mike #463250 June 23, 2025 2:05 pm 14
I never use my phone for anything like this, but I was talking to a friend yesterday about Iran and was telling them things they had never heard before (I was on with a couple on speaker) and while I was doing that I happened to visit on an old bookmark for Conservative Tree House. It’s one left over from a couple phones ago, I never go there anymore, It was scary just how unhinged the normies there were about Iran and worse than that just how cult-like they were about Trump. He is literally Jesus to them it seems. He can do no wrong, must not be questioned and is put here to pave the way for the Messiah. Zionism has devolved into a death cult and the USG seems to be all in on it. May God have mercy on us, not them they want to end the world. We don’t.
TempoNick #463251 June 23, 2025 2:20 pm 9
I also popped in the CTH just to see what they were saying. Hadn’t been there in a long time. I was also very surprised with what I saw. Those people sounded the same as the people cheering on the first Gulf War. Remember this?https://youtu.be/ZzLoNLnvMCo
TempoNick #463252 June 23, 2025 2:23 pm 0
This too:https://youtu.be/AtfZfrKZKrc
3g4me #463260 June 23, 2025 2:38 pm 20
I’ve been banned for years by both CTH and Gayway Pundit. I still skim Gayway headlines and comments – full of rah rah idiots in lockstep with Trump. And now Trump is attacking Thomas Massie. I’d actually consider voting again if I could vote for Massie. Saw one decent comment: MAGA stands for Miriam Adelson’s Goals Achieved.
bunions #463274 June 23, 2025 3:27 pm 7
Ace of Spades is so obviously an influence operation. Big supporter of the Bush/Iraq war but claim to be annoyed by how they were fooled. They never talked about Epstein,ignored the Carlson/Cruz interview and are all in on the Iran war. Most of the writers are Jewish but “Ace”, LOL, claims he’s Irish. Although he doesn’t seem that interested in Ireland he is obsessed with Israel and anti-Semitism.
TempoNick #463276 June 23, 2025 3:37 pm 6
“Miriam Adelson’s Goals Achieved” Good one.
Ben the Layabout #463278 June 23, 2025 3:49 pm 1
I can top that. I was banned fromAmerican Renaissance😀 (full disclosure: for foul language.)
3g4me #463279 June 23, 2025 3:58 pm 4
I’ve been banned from Amren too – didn’t bother to find out why. And I was banned from Counter Currents. And although I tried to choose my words carefully, I was banned from what I thought was just book reviews on Amazon, but now I’ve learned I can’t even make a product review (the rare time I am motivated to).
george 1 #463301 June 23, 2025 5:49 pm 11
“When you want to offend a strong man tell him a lie. When you want to offend a weak man tell him the truth.” Marcus Aurelius
Ostei Kozelskii #463407 June 24, 2025 9:53 am 0
Substitute race for man and the apothegm still holds true.
Ostei Kozelskii #463280 June 23, 2025 4:07 pm 6
Looks like this blog is Outcast Island. I’ve never been banned from a site. Always get disgusted and vamoose before that can happen.
TempoNick #463330 June 23, 2025 10:29 pm 0
I’ve gotten kicked off of instapundit dozens of times, dating back at least a dozen years. I always snuck back on because I knew how to get around all their bans. This last time I was banned, I lost interest. I haven’t even tried to get back on. It’s all ziocons over there anyway.
Bilejones #463306 June 23, 2025 6:30 pm 4
Zionism has devolved into a death cult It hasn’t changed at all.
Robbo #463391 June 24, 2025 9:31 am 0
I go there sometimes just to check out the craziness. The are Q Tards with religion. TDS also stands for Trump Delusion Syndrome.
Captain Willard #463073 June 23, 2025 8:31 am 56
Then What? is absolutely the correct framework for strategy development. But even before “then what?” are the predicates: strategic planning assumptions. These describe the parameters/constraints of strategy development. This is just first-order thinking: what is reality? Here are the pertinent ones:1) No legitimate government in Iran (with popular support) will be friendly to Israel2) We have no means to control a “regime change” process in Iran3) Israel will fight to the last American dollar and soldier4) We cannot sustainably project our military power in IranThe problem we have is not only do we not ask “then what?”, we don’t even make an honest assessment of the reality/strategy parameters.
Felix Krull #463086 June 23, 2025 8:45 am 88
The assumption that there’s no second-order thinking involved is not obvious to me. As you so concisely itemized, nothing will turn Iran into another Turkey, so the best outcome for our most sacred ally, is a new Libya, a failed state. Ascribing to stupidity what can easily be explained by malice is a dangerously naive proposition, it is what they want you to think, their insanity defence. Our rulers are not idiots, they’re evil: idiocy would entail that they sometimes did the right thing by chance, but this never happens.
Jack Dodson #463090 June 23, 2025 8:52 am 24
Even the evil you describe would be preferable, in the sense of having a rationale, to the suicidal chaos underway. I’m with Z on this one: it is magical thinking coupled with a tiny bit of the malice you described. The one aspect of Z’s analysis that is suspect is that there was first order thinking involved.
Captain Willard #463129 June 23, 2025 9:36 am 13
Yes Jack. That was basically my point. Zman is absolutely right that there’s no second-order thinking. My point was that the first-order thinking, if it’s happening, isn’t grounded in realistic predicates. Felix correctly inserts the possibility of malice.
george 1 #463153 June 23, 2025 10:01 am 6
Certainly better for our most psychotic but greatest ally.
Bilejones #463307 June 23, 2025 6:36 pm 3
The neocon filth are notable most of all for their unshakeable sense of entitlement:Because God said so,
iForgotmyPen #463102 June 23, 2025 9:04 am 25
I think there’s tons of second order and even third order thinking and planning going on. There are plenty of capable men in the admin who could foresee this tar baby getting worse. The scariest part is that they decide on these courses of action despite being shown the downside. God’s All Stars are dictating to the US government what they will do and Trump is going along with it. Is it from evil, fear, stupidity? I think Trump wants to pivot to make “big deals” and had some usual suspects convince him this was going to be quick. Not that it matters. This might be one of the worse own-goals in US presidential history.
Compsci #463126 June 23, 2025 9:34 am 21
“…there’s tons of second order and even third order thinking…”One might logically come to that conclusion as well. What does the “blob” most fear about MAGA? That the promised domestic agenda is implemented. What has been to greatest failure of all previous “conservative” Presidencies? That they become distracted with foreign affairs/entanglements and inevitably disengage from internal affairs.Seems to me we are seeing this now. True, there are special nuances that only Trump could have presented to this “distraction theory”, but that’s to be expected with any President—one tailors one’s “plan” to the specifics of the victim. The Ukraine fiasco was an initial distraction failure as Trump handled that quickly (as in not grabbing the bait) and stayed focused on internals, e.g., DOGE. Another distraction was quickly cooked up, and here we are now.This new distraction is only beginning. Trump will/may now be caught in a war that he cannot control in time for the midterms. That could be the goal. Midterm reversal will cripple the Trump Presidency. So far all is working as best as could be planned via second and third order thinking.
Mycale #463144 June 23, 2025 9:47 am 43
Trump’s domestic plan is wildly popular and despite the best efforts of the narrative creators, was only getting more popular. Just a few weeks ago I saw a CNN clip where they were absolutely incredulous that Trump remained popular despite all the pictures of sad brown people. The thing in LA was an absolute disaster for Newsom and the Democrat party and Americans mostly encouraged Trump t ramp up the deportation and go after the illegals and funders of these riot campaigns.So what does the ‘blob’ do, fluff up Trump to go to war with Iran. Not only does it lead to distraction, but it also splits the 2024 MAGA coalition. The tension was always there (we all know why Mark Levin and Ben Shapiro got on board, let’s be real) but now instead of discussing domestic issues, everyone is arguing over Iran. It was, sorry to say, evil genius at work.Trump’s support is probably going to plummet as his base falls apart and he will double down because, well, he’s Donald Trump. Not to mention he is getting glazed by all the people who normally hate him and he is soaking it in and loving it right now.
3g4me #463203 June 23, 2025 11:55 am 26
Well said. I’ve been quite surprised when skimming comments (even given most are from stupid women) on both normal and cuckservatard sites, to see that the vast majority have been celebrating the enforcement of immigration law. Yes, there’s far too much of ‘go back and come in the right way,’ but most appear unmoved by brown sads and even seem to realize most aren’t telling the truth and full story.All presidents since the beginning of the 20th century have preferred foreign to domestic affairs. Much simpler (on the surface) to solve when viewed through the myopic ‘merkin lens, and much more easily used to arouse patriotic fervor. That’s what I’ve seen far too much of, of late – “Go USA, thank you for your service, the military is back, rah rah rah.” It’s not accidental that that fervor and fever and fury have the same Latinroot – it’s all emotion and zero thinking.
Compsci #463215 June 23, 2025 12:29 pm 4
Well put.
ray #463217 June 23, 2025 12:30 pm 10
‘now instead of discussing domestic issues, everyone is arguing over Iran’ Exactly. ‘It was, sorry to say, evil genius at work’ Evil yes, genius no. It was an obvious move. The surprise to the base was trump acceding so readily, and dumping his domestic agenda so quickly.
ray #463146 June 23, 2025 9:48 am 22
‘What does the “blob” most fear about MAGA? That the promised domestic agenda is implemented’ Yep. Blatant attempt to draw attention and resources away from the necessary Cleansing of America.
Alzaebo #463288 June 23, 2025 4:42 pm -1
Heck no. Before the midterm primaries, Trump will order up Purge Night. MAGA will win seats in a landslide!
Jack Dodson #463176 June 23, 2025 10:37 am 18
The Great Replacement is the primary goal of the Blob, no doubt. But let’s not mitigate the profound stupidity and lack of thinking on the part of the Trump Administration that led to this suicidal mission. It is a toxic combination. I wouldn’t even discount Netanyahu totally slithering out of it somehow and leaving the United States solely holding the bag, if it is possible.
Moran ya Simba #463225 June 23, 2025 12:49 pm 17
The great replacement is the only existential problem. And now it’s off the agenda because of this new war. I’m so angry I’d better just shut up
Jack Dodson #463241 June 23, 2025 1:34 pm 12
TGR is the be all, end all, the alpha, the omega, the most existential crisis of Western history. It would not be surprising AT ALL to learn that what seems increasingly like a kabuki war with Iran was launched to distract from the insufficient rate of deportation, kind of a reverse Wag The Dog.
Moran ya Simba #463257 June 23, 2025 2:37 pm 3
In a nutshell
Captain Willard #463135 June 23, 2025 9:40 am 10
Is there second and third-order tactical planning taking place? Probably. I’m questioning the strategy, not the tactics. Nobody alive and sentient since Desert Storm could impute any kind of logic into the apparent strategy here. It defies 30 years of actual results.
iForgotmyPen #463264 June 23, 2025 2:54 pm 6
Grand strategy basically doesn’t exist anymore because our system only allows 4 year planning cycles. Yet another reason why we won’t last much longer.My point about 2nd order thinking was that I think it’s a mistake to think that everyone is just a bumbling fool throwing darts at a board and not capable of understanding 2nd/3rd order effects. Just because we can’t see the sense doesn’t mean it isn’t thought out. You’re right, this isn’t going to end well, but I tend to think this is very thought out at least by the Rasputin-like characters in the blob. I think Trump thinks he’s going to bob and weave out of this and has no idea what sort of damage he’s done to his support base.
Ostei Kozelskii #463281 June 23, 2025 4:09 pm 3
If that’s the case, Trump hasn’t done much second-order thinking about his supporters.
Rented mule #463345 June 24, 2025 12:31 am -1
Pretty sure most of his supporters are normie griller types & far outnumber “dissidents”The strike on Irans nuke sites is being spun as a knockout blow to the Irans nuke program & this thrills normie. personaly I hope it was as shia mullas are messianic nuts who believe the Madi will soon reveal himself & will burn all infidels with fire from heaven.They are as bad as the zionists that think god himself promised them all of Isreal & are destined to rule over all goy & who actually have used tactical nukes at least twice in Syria.The united states is so completely wraped around the zio axle it’s revolting.
Captain Willard #463297 June 23, 2025 5:14 pm 1
Fair enough. I would suggests that, even if there’s second-order thinking, it’s based on false premises. I agree about the lack of “grand strategy”. It’s a problem. But we can also have “grand strategies”, like NAFTA, that are pursued for many years and are just bad ideas.
Alzaebo #463290 June 23, 2025 4:45 pm 2
Sure, and they got the results they wanted. Kill the whiteboys over there so we can run brown sheboons over here, unopposed.
Bilejones #463310 June 23, 2025 6:48 pm 1
“All tactics and no strategy is the sound heard before defeat” It’s more elegant in Mandarin…
george 1 #463154 June 23, 2025 10:02 am 16
The advisors in the Pentagon who warned Hegseth about the many dangers of starting a war with Iran were fired.
Tars Tarkas #463167 June 23, 2025 10:25 am 8
Not the least of which is China gets involved in a proxy war against us. It would be a great way to test all the Chinese equipment against American equipment.
george 1 #463222 June 23, 2025 12:41 pm 6
Yes. They will probably provide Iran with war material at the very least. It is in China’s interest to bleed the U.S.
Alzaebo #463292 June 23, 2025 4:46 pm 1
Already shipping cargo on their new rail line, and they’ve cut Israel off from rare earths needed for missile shell alloys and circuits.
george 1 #463316 June 23, 2025 7:17 pm 0
Wow. That was quick.
Bilejones #463311 June 23, 2025 6:54 pm 1
The Iranian Foreign Minister met with Putin yesterday.Putin asked him what he needs.The Kremlin read-out didn’t report his reply.
Stephanie #463186 June 23, 2025 10:55 am 12
“Is it from evil, fear, stupidity? “ I think Elon told us why, right before he got his black eye.
ray #463108 June 23, 2025 9:09 am 37
‘Our rulers are not idiots, they’re evil’ Yes. Never let them off the hook with that ‘insanity’ jive.
Captain Willard #463125 June 23, 2025 9:33 am 3
Yes Felix. It’s entirely possible they are driven by malice. I was trying to be concise and limit my comment to the scenario wherein their intentions are good.
Bilejones #463313 June 23, 2025 6:57 pm 1
So strictly fantasy.
3g4me #463195 June 23, 2025 11:28 am 19
Felix: Brilliantly said. Because stupidity abounds in the fedgov, most find it more palatable to accept that as prima facie evidence of incompetence and failure. But malice there is aplenty, and it often and easily goes hand-in-hand with stupidity. There is quote after quote, time after time, proving that AINO’s government despises America’s heritage people. And when jews, womyn, neocons, and others tell you they hate you and that their loyalties lie elsewhere, take them at their word.
Alzaebo #463247 June 23, 2025 1:49 pm 1
Heh. The Burning of the Hats will be seen from space.
Robbo #463393 June 24, 2025 9:33 am 0
Evil and stupidity are not mutually exclusive. The Zionists and neocons are both.
ray #463104 June 23, 2025 9:05 am 48
‘We kicked their ass!’ is not the cry of honest assessors. Nor of mature actors upon domestic and foreign stages. It’s embarrassing.I am no mooslim lover, to say the least. Best thing I can say is they’re deceived and deluded. Islam isn’t even a good sell, story wise. They just wanted their own deity, like the Near East folks had. The idea that Gabriel dictated all that rigamarole koran is hilarious.If they want to be my enemy, I can sure do that. But right now my enemies are in America, Britain, and the modern West. The mooslims haven’t persecuted me in my home and in my workplace. That was other Americans that did that, white female ones largely with the backing of neutered, careerist men.
Captain Willard #463139 June 23, 2025 9:44 am 17
Yes. We won every major battle in Vietnam, Iraq, Afghanistan and still lost the wars or the peace processes. This triumphalism is feminine, performative and has become the hallmark of the internet age – hot takes are seemingly necessary for everything in order to “win the news cycle”.
ray #463230 June 23, 2025 1:00 pm 5
Triumphant and prototypically feminine, yes.We bomb you, and then the first words outta our mouth are ‘Let’s have peace. We want peace’. It don’t get any more contradictory and womanly than that.__________Hey, Silva. Do you remember that meeting with John Jones and that old man they called U.S. Christmas, down near El Rito?– That old man they called U.S. Christmas? – Rlght. Si?Seems John stepped on one of U.S.’s boots one night they was both in town.Old U.S., he’d been out hunting buffalo for six months. Now, he was mean and testy and damn near blind drunk.He had on a pair of these flat-heeled, about half-length Wellington boots. Them boots was the only thing he owned he put any store in. And John stepped on one of them.That old man just stepped back and said:“Let’s get to it.”So John said to U. S:“If you’re gonna get that riled over a pair of foreign, lady-looking boots we just might as well get the ball rolling.”So they went in the middle of the street.And they took the 10 steps.And John put three holes right through that old man’s chest.(‘Pat Garrett and Billy the Kid’)
Compsci #463152 June 23, 2025 9:58 am 17
A problem is that we have for generations been able to provide both “guns and butter” wrt our military adventures. Most of the public is removed from the effects of our government’s wars of aggrandizement. Somewhat similar to Israel, except for this latest fiasco of their cities being bombed. Reactions to our latest war of choice is as expected, the populace loves it so far (not all, but enough). We feel no pain, suffer no consequences—yet.I have expressed a plan—pipe dream really— to prevent such pain-free folly. I call it “pay for play”. In all conflicts, we require a draft to fulfill needed manpower—complete random selection, with no deferments—if you can’t carry a weapon because you’re a fat slob, you will shovel shit on a stateside posting, but you don’t get to sit home and watch sportsball while others die for your ego.Next, everyone is assessed a special assessment (tax) to pay for the war, no exclusions—just a line item on the bottom of your return added to whatever you’d have paid without a war going on. They’d be a minimum assessment and no maximum. Everybody forks up their “share”. Not completely without precedent. Nixon in the final stages of our Vietnam fiasco and with rising inflation, proposed such a tax. The war was settled within a year.
Tars Tarkas #463175 June 23, 2025 10:34 am 25
Everyone in government and near government should have to pay 50% on whatever their take home pay is and their children are mandatory draftees. Of course, this could only be done by the elite who support all these ruinous policies. The slobs have absolutely no say whatsoever in war or any other government policy. Why should they pay just because they are flag waiving? What are they going to do? Write a strongly worded letter to their congressmen? No matter who we vote for, we get more of the same.
The Infant Phenomenon #463177 June 23, 2025 10:38 am 39
“No matter who we vote for, we get John McCain.”
stranger in a strange land #463198 June 23, 2025 11:43 am 6
I blame you for whatever sleep I loose tonight as the reality of that statement sinks in.
3g4me #463206 June 23, 2025 12:05 pm 27
Ostei Kozelskii #463228 June 23, 2025 12:56 pm 6
I’ve heard the blintzes in the Senate canteen are of the very finest kind…
Robbo #463398 June 24, 2025 9:37 am 1
Then they Blintzkrieg smaller nations
Robbo #463397 June 24, 2025 9:37 am 1
That just proves they all like ZZ Top 🙂
Ostei Kozelskii #463410 June 24, 2025 9:56 am 0
Rumor spreadin’ ’round/That Texas town/‘Bout that shack outside Georgetown!
ray #463237 June 23, 2025 1:13 pm 14
We kicked their ass! We kicked their ass! says it all. America’s gonna send THESE overgrown children to war? Who have never been homeless, never done without, never shivered through a night, never been in jail, never been in a fight, never even been UNSAFE. Their existence is cocooned; their mentality is smartphones and vidgames. Zero immediate consequences for Americans, therefore USA! USA! I want my country back and I want my satisfaction for the past 50 years of beatdowns. I am not interested in foreign anything until that happens.
george 1 #463157 June 23, 2025 10:08 am 36
Yes. The Vaxx is probably the worst thing they did to us. They have covered up millions of outright dead, many more with their organs destroyed and many generations of Americans who will never be born. Trump will still not admit any of that and the Vaxx is still allowed. It is getting harder to think of him as anything but a Trojan Horse.
Compsci #463221 June 23, 2025 12:40 pm 4
Too harsh. Trump is not the one to pick up your anti-vax stance directly. Too high a position/effort, too low a goal. Trump did however pick the best anti-vax people to head the government agencies in direct control. That “ain’t nothing”.
george 1 #463317 June 23, 2025 7:27 pm 1
Well there is criminal stupidity. If it is not a general crime it should be for a President.
Jeffrey Zoar #463236 June 23, 2025 1:11 pm 3
I find it disturbing how much mainstream religious thought is derived from men who wandered into the desert and came back claiming to have seen visions.
ray #463287 June 23, 2025 4:37 pm 0
A prophet and a storyteller ain’t the same thing.
Bilejones #463870 June 26, 2025 2:28 am 0
Islam is a model of rationality compared to some others. Mormonism has their book delivered by an Angel called Moroni.That’s a clue as to their target market.
george 1 #463151 June 23, 2025 9:56 am 11
Well remember now, we have those “big bootiful weapons” that no one else but Trump knows about. We also have the bestest most bootiful military in the world to deliver all of the big bootiful weapons. That no one else knows about.
Samuel Adams #463162 June 23, 2025 10:20 am -40
It’s awfully convenient to drop into an event and criticize the bad to worst outcomes as though the past 15 years of maneuvering circumstances to arrive at this single consequential and unpleasant solution didn’t happen.Barack Obama worked hard to give gifts to Iran through his execrable donations and useless agreements. And Iran was happy to play political games with the rest of the world until they had the means to turn a tiny nation into a plate of glass and exert their control over the entire Middle East.If you want to wax eloquently about second and third-order thinking, we can sit back and wonder what the nature of the Middle East would be this summer after Tel Aviv disappears in a blinding flash of light and the next caliphate is announced by Iran.
Mikew #463202 June 23, 2025 11:50 am 17
Come on man. Either this is parody or you have this site mistaken for Instapundit
Casimir #463243 June 23, 2025 1:39 pm 11
You can tell Samuel Adams is a brainwashed slave because he managed to bring Obama into this discussion along with copious amounts of zionist propaganda. You’re still butt hurt about the pallets of THEIR cash being returned to them? The JCPOA was just a ruse Iran was using to create a bomb and turn israel into “a plate of glass”? The same agreement that placed the IAEA spies throughout all their nuclear facilities? It’s coming out that those spies then transferred info on Iranian nuclear scientists to israel for assassinations. And you still think it’s Iran trying to “exert their control over the entire Middle East.” OK buddy, clearly you’ve been propagandized for so long the only recourse we have is to lambaste you into oblivion.
iForgotmyPen #463269 June 23, 2025 3:02 pm 0
These people are everywhere. The guy with a small hat on fox news told him Iran wants to blow up the world, so he eats it up without a moment of introspection or reasoning. He probably has a US/Israel flag on his pick up truck and thinks Brawdo will water the crops.
Alzaebo #463303 June 23, 2025 6:12 pm -1
People, Samuel is absolutely the last person you’d want to call uninformed. And the name-calling? Knock that shitrightthe fuck off.
Xman #463253 June 23, 2025 2:32 pm 13
Why should I give a shit “what the nature of the Middle East would be this summer after Tel Aviv disappears in a blinding flash of light and the next caliphate is announced by Iran”? I live in the U.S., not the Middle East. Not my monkeys… not my circus.
Alzaebo #463302 June 23, 2025 5:57 pm -1
I find nothing inaccurate in this comment. The cash belonged to the previous government and the Iranians, and we didn’t let the thieves steal it – it will be returned to the people after the restoration.Mossadegh and the Ayatollahs were the color revolutions. As to that last, well, Iliketo wonder about such things. I volunteer!
Lakelander #463314 June 23, 2025 6:58 pm 1
It’s even funnier if your read this post in Mark Levin’s obnoxious, screeching voice.
Bilejones #463315 June 23, 2025 7:01 pm 2
.. and the horse you rode in on.
Alzaebo #463244 June 23, 2025 1:40 pm 0
Since I disagree, the real Then What is getting Israel todefeat itself. Iran will be either a giant Palestine, or…I optimistically posit this gives America has a chance to be the good guy. They used to see us like that. It’s a restoration, not a “regime change.” Oh. My. Israel will be involved, even against its wishes. Well, boo effing hoo. What a success in this offers is breathing room to deal, then, with the invaders, and all the other crap. The Noticing is rolling under its own power now, after that we’ll start to Notice the Replacement.
Jack Dodson #463076 June 23, 2025 8:33 am 55
The only way out is to end the Israel lobby and that means tanks in the streets. It is time. ICE agents were brutalized this weekend in LA and no one in D.C. cared. Many supported the savages. D.C. needs regime change, and not solely or primarily at the top. Trump has destroyed his presidency, but it presents an opportunity to take out the trash.
CorkyAgain #463185 June 23, 2025 10:54 am -2
I’m probably going to be downvoted for saying this but I’m not impressed by the reports I’ve seen detailing the “injuries” suffered by the ICE agents. It seems to be mostly cases of having been shoved, tripped, falling down, and bruising their knees. Or being spat on. Golly.I support law enforcement (otherwise why have laws?) but have some difficulty with the idea that injuries to LEO’s are somehow more heinous than the same injuries to an average citizen.I’m not saying the protesters are entirely innocent in these cases but the charges that have been filed do seem to be more than a little overblown.If I’ve missed some reports describing an agent’s truly serious injury I’ll appreciate being pointed to them.
Mikew #463199 June 23, 2025 11:47 am 14
If I touch a cop I am going to be beaten down and charged with a felony. Who gives an honest eff about severe the injuries were to ICE agents? Every one of the invading insurrectionists needs to do time and be deported
CorkyAgain #463210 June 23, 2025 12:19 pm 0
Every one of the invading insurrectionists needs to do time and be deported I agree entirely. I’m just saying some of the assault charges I’ve seen seem to be overblown. … and if and when the Left regains control of the government and starts using LEO’s to put downourprotests, this stuff might come back to bite us.
Jack Dodson #463218 June 23, 2025 12:31 pm 15
The Left needs no predicate at all to act in any way it chooses. It’s time for that canard to go. And to be clear, I’m no badge licker, but if I was in the country illegally, neither would I be protesting or spitting.
3g4me #463207 June 23, 2025 12:10 pm 12
Because so many ICE agents are the same as the police, and the secret service, and the border patrol. Tons of mestizos, womyn, fat bureaucrats, and badged bullies who are accustomed to the compliance of law-abiding Whites. https://www.infowars.com/posts/tren-de-aragua-gangbanger-arrested-for-attempted-murder-of-female-ice-officer
CorkyAgain #463212 June 23, 2025 12:23 pm 0
OK, the assault reported in that infowars articlewasmore serious than some of the others described in various arrest reports.
CorkyAgain #463234 June 23, 2025 1:04 pm 0
Here are some examples of the sort of thing I was talking about: https://thepostmillennial.com/6-portland-antifa-militants-federally-charged-over-attacks-at-ice-facility Some of these charges strike me as more warranted than others, but a lot of it just seems petty. (Especially the charges against Miss Weed, described near the end of the article.)
3g4me #463245 June 23, 2025 1:46 pm 11
I’m with Jeffrey Zoar about this – the degree of injury is irrelevant – what must stop is the resistance of illegal aliens. It never crossed my mind to ‘protest’ or ‘demonstrate’ in any of the countries I lived – I was a guest (whether private or official). It was not my business how they conducted their business, because it was not my country.Whether they be mestizos or jews or muslims or pajeets, they all feel entitled to live wherever they choose and behave however they’d like. That’s because the origins of the phrase “When inRome. . .” and its meaning go back possibly to St. Augustine and/or an English play of 1599. The sentiment is only found in White culture and expected of White people.
Ostei Kozelskii #463259 June 23, 2025 2:37 pm 7
The wogs expect to live howsoever they dam’ well please because limpwristed whites refuse to say boo to them.
Ben the Layabout #463277 June 23, 2025 3:44 pm 4
In many nations, even “democracies”, a foreigner involving himself in domestic politics in any way, shape or form is a quick ticket to deportation.
ray #463291 June 23, 2025 4:46 pm 6
ANY resistance must cease immediately. Absolutely right. What a bunch of mincing pansies Americans are. You go wandering around the world without papers in somebody’s country, and start getting pushy or just mouthy, they’ll crack your head open for you. Joke of a nation.
ray #463289 June 23, 2025 4:43 pm 3
Yup. What I was thinking also. People close their eyes and imagine ICE, the FBI, the Justice Department, the NSA etc. are staffed by middle-aged white men with serious faces and decades of experience. Mebbe in 1970 . . . . We must assume that ICE, like everything else, long has been corrupted by the endless entries of homos, transvestites, feminists (women), and borderline-pathological powerjunkies. The incompetent arresting the illegal. Should go real smooth I expect. /s
george 1 #463320 June 23, 2025 7:38 pm 1
Your assumption is 100% correct.
Jeffrey Zoar #463238 June 23, 2025 1:24 pm 7
It’s irrelevant how much they were or weren’t injured. All resistance to immigration enforcement must be crushed
CorkyAgain #463322 June 23, 2025 8:15 pm 0
Oh, I agree, resistance to immigration enforcement must be put down. I’m very much in favor or charging them with obstruction of justice, aiding and abetting, rioting, racketeering, insurrection, treason, etc. Charges that I think have more teeth and are less likely to gain them any sympathy from people who are still on the fence. But we’ve come a long way from the assertion that ICE agents have been “brutalized”, haven’t we, when the argument is that the severity or extent of their injuries is “irrelevant”?
Chris #463214 June 23, 2025 12:26 pm 5
Forget the tanks, flame throwers work much better.
george 1 #463224 June 23, 2025 12:45 pm 5
We are going to need more trash compactors.
ray #463293 June 23, 2025 4:48 pm 3
. . . and woodchippers. You can never have enough compactors or chippers.
Bilejones #463061 June 23, 2025 8:16 am 44
Israel is dependent on 5 desalination plants.Iran could end the war in a week. https://www.chunkerowaterplant.com/news/water-desalination-company-israel
karl von hungus #463085 June 23, 2025 8:44 am 11
Dimona is in the wings warming up
Jeffrey Zoar #463094 June 23, 2025 8:54 am 8
They could, but they don’t
ray #463078 June 23, 2025 8:34 am 41
Donald was hired to clean up New Amerika, to change the present woke-fem domestic agenda to something resembling sanity and tradition.I got ninety days of (mild) paperwork-strikes on rad-Prog funding sources, and then nada. The honcho of DOGE — about the only pro-American element I saw operating — walked away and called Le ‘Orange a dweeb.The cancer is in OUR body, it’s not Out There Somewhere. The war is inside the U.S., not in Iran or Yemen or the Trobriand Islands.This distraction and dodge to the ME tells me that Donald and his administration do not have what it takes to reform the satanic beest of a nation that America turned into. That means harsh action taken against the Rad 1/3 of the citizenry that have led and/or profited from the anti-male, anti-white, anti-Christian elements that STILL run all U.S. institutions.DEI and Big Feminism have not been budged, despite Trump’s proclamation. USAID barely scratched the surface and now I have no choice but to view it as a deke from the getgo, a stale cracker tossed to his base. Either Donald never really wanted to save America, or he was scamming from the escalator and onward.
george 1 #463163 June 23, 2025 10:22 am 5
That pretty well sums it up.
Dutchboy #463178 June 23, 2025 10:42 am 16
Prior to the MAGA stuff, Trump was a liberal NY billionaire with a dodgy business record and a scandalous personal life. He recognized that the standard GOP politician had lost touch with the concerns of the typical voter and that the country was in obvious decline. Hence, MAGA. He rode MAGA to the White House but it was more of a satisfaction for his ego rather than a steely determination to crush the forces ruining the nation and reverse the decline. The usual suspects worked him in his first term and are doing so now. That little burst of energy at the beginning of this term has petered out and we are back to business as usual with USA as Israel’s boytoy.
Moran ya Simba #463262 June 23, 2025 2:44 pm 4
Sorry to bust your chops but you seem to be laboring under the fundamental misunderstanding that it was the American people who hired “the Donald”. It was NOT
Arshad Ali #463070 June 23, 2025 8:29 am 37
“The only way out is to end the Israel lobby and that means tanks in the streets.”How would tanks in the streets curb the power of the Israel lobby? The chosen ones have possession of the commanding heights of finance, media, politics, and academia. The rubes live out in Dogdick, Arkansas. Once Trump got into office he criminalized any support for Gaza as “antisemitic.” He deported any foreign students supporting Gaza and successfully threatened any university allowing free speech (which is also antisemitic). He is best buddies with the Zionist elite. He is not the Fuhrer, who had a clear strategic plan for curbing the influence of the chosen ones and went about it from day one.
Geoff #463081 June 23, 2025 8:37 am 39
The only thing President TACO doesn’t cuck out on is swallowing Jewish dick. Tariffs, no more wars, you name it, Trump will cuck unless it has to do with the people wearing beanies. At this point trying to act like Trump isn’t doing this stuff of his own volition is just intentional blindness. MIGA started out as a joke but clearly the Trump administration really believes it.
Xman #463107 June 23, 2025 9:08 am -4
OFFICIAL STATE DEPT. TRANSCRIPT OF MEETING BETWEEN TRUMP AND NETANYAHU: Netanyahu: “Oh, Donald… Oh, Don… Oh, careful, no teeth…” Trump: “Gurgle, gurgle… slop, lick…” Netanyahu: “Deeper, Donald… all the way…” Trump: “Gag… slurp… gag..”
Xman #463256 June 23, 2025 2:37 pm 0
What, you guys don’t see what the true nature of the U.S.-Israel relationship is? OK, how ’bout this one, then: “Oh, yes, Massa Bibi… Ol’ Donald he pick yo’ cotton, sho’ enough… yassa, Boss… Ol’ Donald, he step ‘n fetch it right quick now, Massa…”
Ostei Kozelskii #463283 June 23, 2025 4:15 pm 1
A bit less coarse. I’ll allow it!
iForgotmyPen #463118 June 23, 2025 9:24 am 20
the new MAGA- Make Anti-Semitism Great Again
Vizzini #463149 June 23, 2025 9:52 am 7
It depends on who is driving the tanks and who the tanks are shooting at.
Pam Hyde #463155 June 23, 2025 10:04 am 8
Christopher Bjerknes suggested that the expulsion and deportation of the students protesting for Gaza was likely an attempt to prevent them from organizing protests and promoting solidarity in the US Muslim community once war was started with Iran.There are probably many reasons he did that but he may have been planning war with Iran from the beginning.
george 1 #463321 June 23, 2025 7:46 pm 2
At the Republican Convention a big Israel flag was placed on the stage with “Israel #1” above it. Yes I think we can safely say that one of the deals Trump made to be allowed to take office was to promise to take out Iran.
Xman #463097 June 23, 2025 8:57 am 35
I agree… we cannot let rogue terrorist states in the Middle East have nuclear weapons! …So when do we bomb Israel???
iForgotmyPen #463092 June 23, 2025 8:53 am 35
I still held out some hope that Trump would do the right thing and just back away from this honey badger. Him getting up and bragging about us taking the lead was just completely depressing. We have absolutely no autonomy and are getting dog walked by a foreign power. It should be blatantly obvious to anyone paying attention and while there’s a lot of push back, there’s still too many from our side who think this is just a game. “We’re not at war” I’ve heard. As if war is something you get to decide you’re not in or not while you drop bombs. FFS if you punch someone in the mouth, and they punch back, you don’t get to say we’re not in a fight.This derails any foreign policy Trump thought he was going to accomplish and probably any domestic as well. He’s done and so is any hope that immigration was going to get solved.
Pam Hyde #463069 June 23, 2025 8:29 am 34
Trump seems to have about the same ability to think ahead as all those blacks in bodycam videos who yell “WHY YOU PULL ME OVER FOR? WHY YOU PULL ME OVER FOR?”Somebody needs to ask Trump how he would feel if he hadn’t eaten breakfast that day.
george 1 #463148 June 23, 2025 9:51 am 1
Indeed. It also need to be pointed out to him that the prospects for those proposed Gaza beach front resorts look better every day.
Beobachter #463060 June 23, 2025 8:15 am 27
Oy, reality is so antisemitic!
The Infant Phenomenon #463114 June 23, 2025 9:19 am 22
Excellent analysis as usual. But about this:“Some sort of mass psychosis has swept the ruling class where they are convinced that their purpose in life is to serve the needs of this flyspeck of a country halfway around the world.”There is what I’ll just call “the Money Power” that rules the world. Its home and HQ is “The City” (of London), and it has its hangers-on around the world, the two main ones being Paris and Wall Street.The State of Israel was established by that Money Power to gain a permanent foothold in the region and to function as its attack dog to ensure that no power could arise in that region other than the Money Power, which uses the military power of “sovereign” countries at will to ensure its goal of controlling of the oil and gas fields of the ME.The purpose of the Midnight Hammer operation was to begin the process of destabilizing Iran internally. Call it “regime change” or whatever; the label is immaterial. Just as Israel was able to attack Iran that first night from *inside* Iran, so their agents inside Iran will very soon begin their campaign of destabilization, which will involve the usual assassinations and car bombs and all the rest of it. It will, of course, be presented as a popular uprising “against the brutal theocratic tyranny of the mullahs . . . ” blah blah blah; the propaganda will write itself. It is already begun; one hears it everywhere already. Every arrow in the “regime-change” quiver will be used. Eventually–in a year or two–Iran will be overthrown and broken up into pieces–the Arab part, the Baluchi part, the Turkish/Turkoman part, etc.At that point, West-friendly regimes will be installed–in “Rump Iran” it might even be Pahlavi, the former Shah’s son and heir, as incredible as that might seem today–and then the usual suspects will have direct access to Russia’s soft underbelly via the Caspian Sea.The Money Power tried but failed to “burglarize” Russia via the Ukraine in an attempt to overthrow Russia, break it into pieces, and steal its vast natural resources, thereby resuming the rape and robbery of Russia that Putin’s advent put an end to. So now, they will approach Russia from the south. That answers the question “Why now?” with regard to why it was so vital to stop Iran from getting nukes–even though Iran has been “only weeks away from getting nukes” for the past thirty years.Turkey will take one third of Iran’s present-day territory just as Turkey aided and abetted the recent overthrow of Syria for the benefit of the Money Power that has just induced (forced?) Mr Trump to betray not only his voters but AINO itself. South Azerbaijan–the NW third of Iran–is populated by Turks, and it has a long border with Turkey. The current president of Iran is Turkish (although born within what is now Iran).I think we can expect the internal destabilization campaign inside Iran to begin any time now.So that is why the lunatics in Washington are prepared to go to any length to defend what you rightly call “this flyspeck of a country halfway around the world.” Because it pays. And very handsomely, too. And they mean to keep it that way. Unfortunately for us, “things fall apart” and no war plan ever survives its first contact with the enemy.Buckle up.
Jack Dodson #463138 June 23, 2025 9:43 am 14
BRILLIANT. Even though you briefly touched on it, the results of the attempt to dismantle and rape Russia have been total failure thus far. I can see the same outcome with the attempt on Iran, but granted it is not at all certain. It will be interesting to see what follows when Israel is directly attacked by major powers, because that is coming unless the City of London gives a stand down order soon.. Stellar comment, man.
The Infant Phenomenon #463171 June 23, 2025 10:28 am 2
Thanks for your generous words, but I just cobbled my opinions together based on the thoughts of other people, this one being one of the foremost: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7vxNVLC8EE8 And this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ng0RawU8s98&t=632s And yes, the current president of Iran IS a Turk: Pezeshkian was born inMahabad,West Azerbaijan, on 29 September 1954[3]toIranian Azerbaijaniparents.[4][5]Pezeshkian considers himself and his parents to beTurks. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Masoud_Pezeshkian
The Infant Phenomenon #463183 June 23, 2025 10:53 am 7
You know, now that I come to think about it, somebody (Col. Macgregor?) has pointed out that the Iranian gov’t long ago divided Iran up into 50-odd independently functioning military regions so that in the event of an invasion or protracted bombing campaign, every one of the regions could function without resorting to the central state apparatus, thus turning that vast country into 50-odd different regions, each and every one of which would have to be conquered and then OCCUPIED by an enemy power. So you are right: Iran is not going to be conquered by the treacherous Mssrs Trump and Vance or by anybody else. ALL war is logistics, so there ain’t no way.
Jack Dodson #463219 June 23, 2025 12:34 pm 1
The core population of Persians is barely a majority, from memory. Decentralization was as much a necessity as a choice, and, yes, it works in Iran’s favor.
george 1 #463173 June 23, 2025 10:31 am 3
The powers that be have been so far fortunate beyond their wildest dreams in having an enemy like Iran. Their leadership is even more incompetent than our own, if that is even possible. The question is will Iran compensate, improvise and overcome? The U.S. and Israel had better hope not.
The Infant Phenomenon #463189 June 23, 2025 10:59 am 1
See my post just above, in which I say that the Iranian gov’t long ago divided the country into 50-odd regions to make conquest impossible
george 1 #463227 June 23, 2025 12:55 pm 3
I don’t think clown world is planning an invasion/conquest of that type. They don’t have the troops to do that. They might have been looking at having their ISIS types wage a kind of civil war but with what you have pointed out that looks like it would be pretty difficult. Like normal clown world has probably bitten off more that it can chew. They just don’t know it yet.
Jack Dodson #463298 June 23, 2025 5:23 pm 1
The new MO is simply to demolish and destroy as much as possible and then slink away and let Country X deal with the rubble. The problem for Israel is that Iran also can do the same even if to a lesser degree.
Ostei Kozelskii #463232 June 23, 2025 1:01 pm 3
The leadership of Burkina Faso isn’t more incompetent than AINO’s.
Jack Dodson #463299 June 23, 2025 5:23 pm 2
Can you even tell them apart?
Ostei Kozelskii #463325 June 23, 2025 8:29 pm 1
Ha! Well, BF’s leadership has no fags or trannies. I’ll give ’em points for that.
The Wild Geese Howard #463065 June 23, 2025 8:23 am 22
Has anyone else noted that the Iran bombing was timed so it didn’t disrupt the markets AND it provided perfect Sunday morning fodder for various pastors and priests?
Pam Hyde #463084 June 23, 2025 8:40 am 15
Gold and silver barely flinched either which is very strange.
Ben the Layabout #463273 June 23, 2025 3:21 pm 3
I just checked the chart for Oil going back a year. Yes, it jumped quite a bit during the recent excitement. Nevertheless, even its recent peak isbelowspot as recently as late January, to say nothing of much of 2024. You probably can’t find a more Mideast-sensitive commodity, and what the chart says is that the latest missile trading is not a real big deal. Oh did I mention it’s dropped about 9% just today?
Xman #463109 June 23, 2025 9:10 am 16
Naturally, the Jews are monetizing this… the Tel Aviv stock index hit record highs after the bombing: Tel Aviv shares hit record highs after US strikes Iran nuclear sites | Reuters
Horace #463132 June 23, 2025 9:38 am 20
“If the Trump people had a realistic understanding of Israel and the Israel lobby, they would know they are dealing with hostile aliens who look at the United States as a Walmart during a ghetto riot. They would know how to treat them as adversaries, rather than allies or clients.”Jews, not all but most, divide sapient humanity into 3 categories. First, their own kind, for whom there is an almost ritualized high-trust code of conduct for interaction. Second, obedient and decorous slaves who have bent the knee/kissed the Wailing Wall. These can continue to exist as long as they are useful and nonthreatening. All others are in category 3, enemies who have not yet either been subjugated or killed.Donald Trump keeps trying to operate on the assumption that there is some magical mythical 4th category: goyim who can cooperate with Jews as equal beings on matters of shared interest. It is understandable if one has a bubble of Jews around one who fall into the demographic sliver of “not all” which includes honorable and decent people like Stephen Miller and wife.However, the Jews starting wars and trying to lasso us into them are not the exception. They see Donald Trump, for all his money and wealth and power and status, as just another slave testing his shackles. At least one faction of them had quite enough of his disobedience and tried to shoot him twice. Both shooters were extras in Blackrock recruitment videos. What are the odds? roflma, pretty good, actually.How can there be a diplomatic solution to the problem these people pose to our existence? Keep in mind that Netanyahu and his Israelis are far far less hostile to our existence than the more overtly transnational Jewish operators in Europe and America. I would support us defending Israel, as long as American nationalists were holding the whip hand. However, American nationalism was destroyed by Jews by the close of the 1960’s, so Israel is going to be on its own when the American polity they destroyed twitches its last death throe.“The goal of abolishing the white race is on its face so desirable that some may find it hard to believe that it could incur any opposition other than from committed white supremacists… Keep bashing the dead white males, and the live ones, and the females too, until the social construct known as ‘the white race’ is destroyed – not ‘deconstructed’ but destroyed.” Noel Igatiev, Harvard
My Comment #463168 June 23, 2025 10:27 am 4
Excellent summation.
Dutchboy #463184 June 23, 2025 10:54 am 11
Bernie Madoff violated the code by scamming Jews as well as the goyim. Greed overcame ethnic loyalty.
Boris #463123 June 23, 2025 9:31 am 17
This morning the stock mkt is up and oil is down. Tells you everything you need to know about what happened over the weekend. The whole air strike on Iran was a charade. Shock and awe? How about shuck and jive.
TempoNick #463150 June 23, 2025 9:53 am 3
That’s exactly what I was saying last week. Usually, if someone farts over there gas prices spike, but gas prices barely moved after Israel’s attack? Or at least they didn’t move for a few days. That told me this whole thing was fake and gay.
Steve #463431 June 24, 2025 10:23 am 0
Too early to know, really. War is good for the MIC. Plus all the second-order, MIC adjacent businesses. Give that a few days for the dust to settle and see what was real and what was not even coat-tails. Oil is not terribly surprising. China will insist the Straits of Hormuz remain open. Not only do they get an obscene amount of oil from there, but they own a super-majority of the gas fields. Keep the Straits open or Chinese arms stop flowing into Iran.
Diversity Heretic #463068 June 23, 2025 8:28 am 16
Brian Berletic on his websiteThe New Atlasmakes an interesting case that it isnotIsrael that is forcing Trump’s hand, but rather Israel is the proxy for the US deep state that seeks to eliminate Iran as a way to weaken China and eventually turn back to regime change in Russia. I’m not fully convinced, because I think he underestimates the considerable role of Jewish influence in the United States, but his point of view is worth considering. US Strikes Iran in Dangerous Act of War Following US-Enabled Israeli Attacks
Jeffrey Zoar #463088 June 23, 2025 8:50 am 7
It can be instructive to bear in mind that it can be a long game being played.
Ostei Kozelskii #463204 June 23, 2025 11:56 am 6
Do we really think the Blob is temperamentally suited to playing the long game? This is a nation that lives by text messages and memes. It has the attention span of a stink bug. When I think long game I think China and Russia, not the infants of the Blackberry Fruitcake Empire.
Jack Dodson #463220 June 23, 2025 12:37 pm 4
Not at all. The Blob IS the Left, and its impulsivity is its Achilles Heel and main vulnerability. In fact, that makes it difficult for them to attain and retain power. Unfortunately, it also makes them cavalier about nuclear war and importation of savages, which affects us all.
The Wild Geese Howard #463095 June 23, 2025 8:54 am 7
Berletic is really good, but there are times he gets way too pro-China for my taste.He is totally on point regarding the importance of reading the policy papers emanating from certain think tanks.
Zaphod #463130 June 23, 2025 9:38 am 5
I’m pretty pro-PRC and I think Berletic deliberately puts the arrow of causality ass-backwards because Third-Worldism and bloviating about US Imperialism are what his Chinese and Russian paymasters want him to be messaging. Russian and PRC ruling classes strictly stick to the First Rule of JQ Fight Club because little upside for them to do otherwise and some old idealogical pieties need to be observed for public consumption. Agree his nitty gritty research is worthwhile.
NateG #463112 June 23, 2025 9:14 am 31
if the U.S. is using Israel, why the massive lobby and Epstein trying to get dirt on politicians? I like Berletic, but I think he’s wrong on this one.
Maxda #463231 June 23, 2025 1:01 pm 4
Every pro-israel globalist shithead in the world want us to fight a war with Iran for their benefit.
RVIDXR #463188 June 23, 2025 10:56 am 15
It seems Trump has settled back into his first term habit of just doing whatever retarded things his handlers tell him & then going on twitter to boomer post about how amazing it is that he’s stabbing his base in the back. At this point the less I know about what he’s up to the better. I had enough of his flip flopping that always somehow ends in favor of maintaining the status quo from his first term. Now that he’s back at it I’m just plugging my ears & reminding myself that at least kamala isnt in office.
Tarl Cabot #463106 June 23, 2025 9:06 am 13
If the Iranians are smart, they will try to keep this between them and the Israelis. They may actually be able to win a war of attrition, provided the Chinese and Russians keep them stocked with missiles. Trump will have some difficulty authorizing more strikes without a direct causus belli. In this environment, even a false flag might be recognized as such.
3 Pipe Problem #463191 June 23, 2025 11:12 am 2
Abetted by the fact that perhaps this one strike was Orange Mandela’s show of force, and now volte-face, and let the chips fall where they may.
Steve #463438 June 24, 2025 10:30 am 0
Right. And that is why they would be foolish to close the Straits. Threaten, maybe, but not do it. China has too much at stake. The Chinese arms would stop flowing if the oil and gas (something like 75% Chinese-owned) did.
Mycale #463099 June 23, 2025 8:57 am 13
We are told simultaneously that Iran is a suicidal death cult of irrational freaks who do not value life and they are also, at the exact same time, Iran is full of rational, sober-minded who value their lives too much to retaliate against the USA. Make it make sense!The only way the cancer gets cut out is if Trump tells the Israelis and the neocons “no”. We now know that Trump is not willing to do this, which means that they are the ones in charge. They want us in a war with Iran so they are going to get a war with Iran. Maybe they would have preferred us to go all-in immediately, but step-by-step is fine by them. Even if this leads to a full-throated revolt of MAGA, well that is what official DC wants to see. If 50% of the people revolt, that means 50% get on board with the lunatic neocon 2002 agenda, which is good enough for them.
DLS #463147 June 23, 2025 9:51 am 12
They also told us Iran was weeks away from a nuke, but they had no concern that bombing their nuke sites would release radiation.
3 Pipe Problem #463192 June 23, 2025 11:13 am 4
Yup, that’s nagged me forever. But, then again, I’m no nucular scientist and I haven’t traveled in a long while.
Steve #463441 June 24, 2025 10:35 am 0
They destroyed the processing centers, AFTER truckloads presumed to be the radioactives were removed. Kayfabe. The Iranians were allegedly opposed to developing weapons, and if so, the destruction of the centrifuges to make weapons wouldn’t have meant much to them.
karl von hungus #463093 June 23, 2025 8:53 am 13
Trump is a busted flush and isn’t worth discussing any longer.Ukraine consumed so much of the west’s ordnance it is no longer possible to keep Israel going regardless of whether we want to or not. And what remains is known to be inferior to what Russia is producing (in prodigious amounts).The near future is very clear, regarding the US. The national debt is reneged on, the USD loses reserve status, the global empire implodes and collapses, most of the immigrants (legal or illegal) leave, and the federal government collapses. This leaves individual states, and corporations to sort things out best they can. How can this scenario not happen, given the dilapidated state of virtually all our cities and infrastructure?LLM based “solutions” are not going to be a real factor once this nation is forced to deal with reality again. And Israel is on its own, for the first time in its history.
Mike #463258 June 23, 2025 2:37 pm 2
May it be so.
btp #463067 June 23, 2025 8:28 am 12
Indeed. But Trump fished the Rubicon a few years ago and decided it wouldn’t work. The only thing that mattered then and now is whether he has the guns to pull it off. And the guts.
Jack Dodson #463082 June 23, 2025 8:37 am 12
The answer there is obvious.
Mark Lytle #463115 June 23, 2025 9:20 am 11
The internal dynamics of the U.S. are locked up, as you say, under the current system.So it implies someone comes along who breaks those rules somewhat, who was what Trump was supposed to be. He seems to have no way forward, and a successor faces the same structural resistance.Part of the impasse might change if Iran manages in a few weeks to destroy a couple of hundred of the most important infrastructure elements in Israel, making it nonviable. I think that was Iran’s strategic plan all along, and looks possible.A collapsed Israel, with refugees streaming out looking for other places in the world with lights and hot showers, gets hard to justify major military action for. The remnants of MAGA is already forming resistance and if Israel is clearly failing, the optics of committing military resources will get difficult. Maybe this unsticks the situation Trump finds himself in, though he will be politically weakened from the whole bombing episode.How the Neocons actually react when they realize that Iran didn’t need nukes to break Israel, is uncertain. A war declaration against Iran for revenge is something I would suspect, but we don’t have the munitions in quantity after Ukraine, and ships are no match for hypersonics, so if war is declared, it will likely go badly. The left is already primed to go into the streets pushing the unpopularity of a war with Iran, with parallels to the Vietnam protests. Trump would find this to be a different set of obstacles to what he has now. The successor to Trump would really see the end of the Empire, and that brings structural changes. There is no gas left in the tank politically or financially for anything beyond the current conflict.
WCiv911 #463075 June 23, 2025 8:32 am 10
“The war in Ukraine is in its fourth year because no one in the West could bother to ask the question, much less answer it.”or, maybe they did ask the Q and did answer and liked the answer. How long can we make this war last and how much money can we make by perpetuating it?The “what next” Q: Not only what next, but what about a cost benefit analysis? It would be wonderful if I put $100,000 down on Seabisquit in the third at Belmont and I won, but what if I lose? What if I lose my shirt and my kids still want to eat?
The Infant Phenomenon #463124 June 23, 2025 9:32 am 3
“Let them eat cake” would be Trump’s reply.
Zfan #463197 June 23, 2025 11:41 am 9
Anyone care to throw out the number of billions of dollars we will be giving for the rebuilding of Tel Aviv and Haifa? I am guessing $500 billion over the next two years. Yosemite, Sequoia, Grand Teton, and Yellowstone national parks might cover it. A sell/ lease back agreement on the Capitol and Arlington National Cemetery should be on the table, too, if needed. The Statue of Liberty with its sacred poem is not for sale
Stephanie #463319 June 23, 2025 7:30 pm 1
Everything rebuilt will have a Trump logo in gold. lol
Ostei Kozelskii #463166 June 23, 2025 10:24 am 9
If Trump really was the chaos agent many people claim he is, he might well sever diplomatic relations with Israel, shutter the respective embassies, and expel all Jewish non-citizens (particularly Israelis) from AINO. This would be the ultimate in rebellion. Almost to the level of reestablishing Jim Crow. Both maneuvers would be necessary for recuperating America from the current ruins. Both are as far from possible as traveling to Betelgeuse on a unicycle.
My Comment #463165 June 23, 2025 10:24 am 9
“If the Trump people had a realistic understanding of Israel and the Israel lobby, they would know they are dealing with hostile aliens who look at the United States as a Walmart during a ghetto riot.”Now that is a great phrase that sums up modern American society.2nd order thinking is no longer American or White sad to say. It also infects corporations. The rule in a Corp is “good idea boss!” if you ask what if something doesn’t work, you are a can’t do, not a can do, person. Once you get that perception of you, your career track just points to the door. You are no longer wanted.All of this is far worse now that the tribe controls the levers of power and women dominate the managerial class.I have always liked the old adage that the easiest way to improve your looks is to hang around ugly people. China is viewed rightly as powering ahead not just because they are but by having smart men at the top of organizations who don’t view the society as a Walmart during a looting spree they look great and sane in comparison.
TomA #463134 June 23, 2025 9:39 am 8
Then what? Russia will win in Ukraine. A lot of very pissed off former Ukrainian military will be unemployed. Many of them will be highly skilled at building and operating combat drones. The people that wrought the destruction of their country are not to be found in Moscow, but elsewhere. Betrayal is bitch. May we wish them Godspeed in their quest for justice.
Fred Beans #463190 June 23, 2025 11:05 am 7
I was hoping I was wrong, but when Trump was reelected, many thought he could go balls to the wall with his agendas without worrying about blowback from the usual suspects sabotaging re-election efforts. But now I’m wondering if the support of the voters, especially his base are less relevant for him than embracing or at least being less combative with the swamp. He’ll be out of office in 4 years regardless, but the Flimsey Grahams, Mitch McConnell clones, as well as the Hannity’s and Levin’s will still be in place. The NY Post had the headline:“Trump’s ‘spectacular’ Iran strike could carve his place in history as most courageous leader since Ronald Reagan”I wonder how much he feels free from serving his voters, and willing to cave to the deep state agenda, as a gatekeeper instead.
george 1 #463145 June 23, 2025 9:48 am 7
AIPAC should be designated the foreign agents that they are and their U.S. operations closed down. Any politician who then takes their bribes should then be subject to long prison sentences. The criminal enterprises that Israel runs like the Epstein Mossad operation should be investigated and all of the actors put in prison. Obviously this is impossible in the current reality. Like the Z man says. Tanks in the streets. The more I say it the better it sounds. I think Trump would be surprised at the support he would have for taking down the Israel lobby.
Ozornik #463131 June 23, 2025 9:38 am 7
The thing about Gordian knot solution, it requires balls. In what vise are the balls of the father who married his daughter out to that tribe?!(Including, putting her through very serious process called ‘Giur’. In case you didn’t know, her name is now Yael.)Importantly, he put his balls in that vise himself, gladly. It is absolutely bewildering to me that anyone here expected different outcome.
Ozornik #463209 June 23, 2025 12:18 pm 2
from immaculate source of truth, Wikipedia, on presidential daughter Yael Kushner:<<Raised as aPresbyterianChristian,[218]Trumpconverted to Orthodox Judaismin July 2009,[219][220]after studying with Elie Weinstock from theModern OrthodoxRamaz School.[221]Trump took theHebrewname “Yael” (Hebrew: יָעֵל,lit.”mountain goat’ oribex‘).[222][223]She describes her conversion as an “amazing and beautiful journey” which her father supported “from day one”, adding that he has “tremendous respect” for the Jewish faith.[224]She attests to keeping akosher dietand observing the JewishSabbath, saying in 2015: “We’re pretty observant… It’s been such a great life decision for me… I really find that withJudaism, it creates an amazing blueprint for family connectivity. From Friday to Saturday we don’t do anything but hang out with one another. We don’t make phone calls.”[225]When living in New York City, she used to send her daughter to Jewish kindergarten. She said: “It’s such a blessing for me to have her come home every night and share with me the Hebrew that she’s learned and sing songs for me around the holidays.”>>
Ostei Kozelskii #463235 June 23, 2025 1:08 pm 4
Well, I just hacked up a load of guam. Thank you very much!
NateG #463113 June 23, 2025 9:18 am 7
The Israel/U.S. relationship reminds me of the Master/Blaster character in the movie Thunderdome, Israel being the Master.
TomA #463226 June 23, 2025 12:51 pm 6
It now appears that the attack on Iran this past weekend was part of an elaborate charade intended to create a face-saving mechanism for ending the attrition war with Israel. The US and Iran agreed to exchange fake attacks on each other in order to mollify public opinion in both countries and motivate Netanyahu to capitulate to a JCPOA 2.0. The latter is now being tabled in the Israeli press. God help us, but this appears to have been a 3D chess move by the Trumpster. If so, Netanyahu will not survive this, and the regime change will have occurred in Israel.
Stephanie #463240 June 23, 2025 1:29 pm 6
The only way this could be true is if Ivanka wants her husband as the new leader of Israel.Otherwise, ‘we’ll see’ as Trump likes to say, but CMON how many times, what will it take, seeing rounds of American soldiers coming home missing limbs or with burnt faces that make you want to recoil in horror? Do we have to see that again first before we start thinking 3d chess is, as they say, cope? Even then, would it matter I guess.
over by December #463295 June 23, 2025 4:55 pm 1
If they were a family it would be called “enabling”..
NoName #463064 June 23, 2025 8:18 am 6
Over the weekend, a whole lotta very intelligent kkk0mmentators came to the conclusion that the Fordow bombing was a LARP [a Live Action Role Play], to make it look as though Netanyahu were in charge of global strategery, when, in fact, Trump ordered the Iranians to empty the Fordow facility and move the equipment to a safe haven [as a face-saving measure for everyone involved].I.e. EVERYTHING now appears to have been a tail wagging a dawg.I’m now even wondering whether Netanyahu himself is LARPing his own role in this melodrama, so that the idiot mizrahim, God bless their little idiot hearts, will keep voting Netanyahu back into orifice.
Jeffrey Zoar #463072 June 23, 2025 8:30 am 8
The lack of Iranian response allows no other conclusion. While the exact nature of the LARP can only be guessed, at the very least they are lying down and taking it. They should have no fear of a ground invasion to stop them from retaliating with strikes at US bases in the region, but evidently all they can do is shoot at apt buildings in Tel Aviv. Reminiscent of Saddam. As if the same playbook is being rerun. The vote by their parliament to close Hormuz appears as more performative theater, similar to the kayfabe in which our Congress often engages. If reports are to be believed, not a single SAM was launched at US aircraft.
The Wild Geese Howard #463100 June 23, 2025 9:00 am 6
If reports are to be believed, not a single SAM was launched at US aircraft.This is another indicator that this is all just maintaining kayfabe for the marks.I mean, Iran had clear indications of what sites were going to be hit and a fairly defined window when they would be hit.It’s hard to believe they couldn’t concentrate their air defenses on those locations – radar, missiles, and rotating fighter patrols – for a deterrent effect.I’ve seen the impact photos of Fordow and they could easily br Photoshopped.If any real damage had been inflicted the entire MSM would have it on a 24/7 loop.
Jeffrey Zoar #463116 June 23, 2025 9:20 am 14
I’m thinking the only “sleeper cells” we need to worry about are Mexicans
Vizzini #463160 June 23, 2025 10:13 am 13
Why do you hate siestas?
Dutchboy #463180 June 23, 2025 10:47 am 4
I commented to my wife that all our bases and ships in the ME are in range of Iranian missiles and there would be Hell to pay if they responded with a missile attack. The fact that they have not (so far) is telling.
CorkyAgain #463193 June 23, 2025 11:18 am 2
Just because Israel wants to draw the US (deeper) into this war is no reason for Iran to want the same. Their hesitation is rational.
Ben the Layabout #463272 June 23, 2025 3:11 pm 2
Fortunately I didn’t have to learn them firsthand, but I recall that one of Murphy’s Laws of Combat is “If the enemy is within range, so are you.”
NoName #463223 June 23, 2025 12:42 pm 2
DUBAI, United Arab Emirates (AP) —Iran said its missile attack on Al Udeid Air Base in Qatarmatched the number of bombs dropped by the United States on Iranian nuclear sites this weekend, signaling Iran’s likely desire to deescalate. Iran made the announcement Monday night in a statement from its Supreme National Security Council after the attack, which Qatar said caused no injuries. https://freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/4324843/posts
Jeffrey Zoar #463242 June 23, 2025 1:39 pm 2
There is no way this reported Iranian strike on Qatar could be characterized as robust. Either they are weak/impotent, or they are playing a role. Or both.
Vizzini #463267 June 23, 2025 3:01 pm 1
As degraded as US military capability is, we still have the capacity to make life utterly miserable for Iran as long as we want to.Other commenters have written about how a country the size of Israel can’t stand up to a country the size of Iran over the long term, even if Israel has better technology. Well, the same thing applies to Iran vs. the US.Even if they are capable of making a much more devastating strike, and it is certain they can, what would be the long term cost for them of such a maneuver?The US is still the most dangerous bully in the region and if you can get the bully to back off bynottaking your best shot then sometimes it is the right, if galling, choice.
terranigma #463323 June 23, 2025 8:17 pm 1
Vizzini is on the right track here.Iranian leadership is a lot more sophisticated and prudent than the war propaganda has lead us to believe. Russia and Iran are playing a long diplomatic game where Iran becomes the hero of the UN in exchange for nuclear protection and sanctions relief. Whether those are possible for the parties remains to be seen, but the nuclear protection from Russia for Iran would be an extremely strict and limited treaty to prevent Israel and America from deploying nuclear weapons against Iran. Iran will then be able to avoid building a nuclear weapon themselves which would avoid destabilizing the region with nuclear proliferation. Iran will still leave the NPT because IAEA inspections are equivalent to letting Mossad have free access to your entire nuclear program and assassinate all your personnel.Iran will likely deploy a limited shipping embargo on the Strait of Hormuz against NATO countries and continue to bomb Israel in the hope of crippling Israel before the war winds down. Think of it as a propaganda campaign to peel the gulf Arabs away from the West, which will see some quiet success.TheAyatollah’s leadership of Iran has now been vindicated many times over. Regime change will be met with extreme resistance from the Iranian people.I suspect Trump was given a false narrative to deceive him into striking Iran, and Iran, on Russian advice, prudently gave him a ceasefire opportunity. The “Then what?” question falls back to the usual suspects as their regime change operation against Iran backfires over the next week or two. Does Israel fold or go nuclear? Does the Trump admin go mask off and double down on regime change?I favor Israel crumpling into a hysterical ball that begs Iran for a ceasefire that allows them to save face – which will not happen – while screaming at Trump to do something. Trump and his handlers remain a wild card.
NoName #463347 June 24, 2025 4:26 am 0
Jeffrey Zoar:“…or they are playing a role…“I don’t see any other explanation.This is “virtual” war now; where pyrotechnics are used not to physically eradicate populations, but rather to PSYCHOLOGICALLY CONDITION populations.My guess is that the Oligarchs are now highly confident that their Psy-Ops are vastly more powerful [and vastly moar PROFITABLE] than could be any of the Old School kinetic warfare operations.Why risk actual tangible Nukular Armageddon if you can simply stage a theatrical display which will fool 98% of the population into believing that an actual physical kinetic war was actually fought and won? [Without even having toactuallybother to fight any kinetic war in the first place?]It’s scary to think of how many Normies are pathologically incapable of even suspecting this sort of chicanery in the first place.George Orwell anticipated so much of this in his magnum opus, “1984”.Oceania will always be at war with Eurasia will always be at war with Eastasia will always be at war with Oceania etc etc etc.The Globalist Oligarchs are pulling their Psy-Ops directly out of Sci-Fi novels and movie scripts.
Ben the Layabout #463271 June 23, 2025 3:10 pm 2
Much of the early claims of damage seem dubious. Given that, at best, we might have civilian satellite imaging, precisely how are we to assess alleged damage that is done by a munitions designed to penetrate deeply below ground? I suspect a like skeptic’s case can be made for the cruise missile attacks at other targets.In other press I saw (claimed) satellite images of trucks presumably evacuating equipment from Fordow in days or hours prior to the Saturday attack. I’m not “in the industry” (e.g. spying) but those photos seem well within the reach of what is commercially available. These, if true, lend credence to the claim that Iran wisely squirreled the goods away somewhere else. Whether a lucky guess, or they were tipped off, who knows?I’m told that Israel keeps the press on a short leash; how much more so Iran? In sum, we should take any claims from the battles with a grain of enriched U235.
ray #463328 June 23, 2025 9:47 pm 0
Your analysis is supported by the cease-fire that’s already been announced by Trump. Did we just witness the latest episode of Kabuki Theatre? P.S. The CEO of the Obama Foundation is longtime family ally Valerie ‘Death Pixie’ Jarrett, who was born in Iran. Damn shame she didn’t stay there.
NoName #463119 June 23, 2025 9:27 am 6
“Vigilant Fox” has an excellent summary of “Fordow as Face-Saving LARP”: https://www.vigilantfox.com/p/emerging-theory-suggests-trump-and The only thing I would add is that it feels as though Netanyahu were also in on the LARP, which, if true, would make the entire fiasco orders of magnitude moar cynical. Fortunately, we still don’t have any boots on the ground, and we still haven’t lost any air craft carriers… Maybe there’s something to be said for Face-Saving LARPs?
NoName #463127 June 23, 2025 9:34 am 1
What if worldwide citizenry were mesmerized & hypnotized into embracing the LARP as being even more real than Reality itself? George Orwell toyed with that idea in “1984”, and Star Trek revived it in the episode, “A Taste of Armageddon”, where humans were dying in wars which didn’t ackshually exist. “A Taste of Armageddon” https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/A_Taste_of_Armageddon https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s8-I9nRAnDk
george 1 #463229 June 23, 2025 12:58 pm 2
There is a case for that to be made. Trump did exactly that in his first term.
NoName #463270 June 23, 2025 3:02 pm 3
Here’s a particularly damning Data Point: Report: Israel Sends Message to Iran That War Is Nearing Endhttps://freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/4324857/posts “Israel has sent messages to Iran that Jerusalem is aiming for the air and missile war between the sides to end in days, Channel 12 reports.” How can anyone read that sentence and not come to the conclusion that the entire dadgum spectacle is nothing but a LARP?!?!? It’s been completely choreographed. It’s a stage production.
NoName #463346 June 24, 2025 4:12 am 0
History’s Greatest Genius has come around to the idea that it’s all fake: More Kabukihttps://voxday.net/2025/06/23/more-kabuki/
NoName #463074 June 23, 2025 8:32 am 12
With A.I. generated pseudo-news & A.I. generated pseudo-journalism, we could be looking at a future of near infinite LARPs layered over LARPs layered over LARPs layered over LARPs, dadgum near about forever. Even the Big Brains might begin to question their own understanding of ackshual tangible boots-on-the-ground meatspace realititty. At some point, this ambiguity between Reality and Nonsense is gonna induce a terrible psychosis in our species. [Blessed are the Meek, for They shall inherit the Earth.]
The Wild Geese Howard #463105 June 23, 2025 9:06 am 12
At some point, this ambiguity between Reality and Nonsense is gonna induce a terrible psychosis in our species. With the sheer volume of slop out there, I feel like this has already happened.
Jack Dodson #463110 June 23, 2025 9:12 am 4
Agreed.
Filthie #463159 June 23, 2025 10:10 am 2
I think that is a huge point, NN. Back when Covid and the Kraine were Current Things… you could get past all the narrative click bait, chattering skulls an talking heads to find reasoned, authoritative and logical info sources that are the lynchpin of dissident politics.once again the jew media is marching in lockstep…but there are no independent voices of reason like their used to be. Maybe I’m articulating this poorly…but everyone involved with this is screaming or emoting to a script. There are no independent voices in either country doing street level interviews. Everything is being decided behind closed doors. Fact checking anything in this is almost impossible.
Dutchboy #463182 June 23, 2025 10:49 am 4
You must admit that fake wars are preferable to real ones.
Vizzini #463268 June 23, 2025 3:02 pm 1
I reserve judgment.
NoName #463350 June 24, 2025 6:24 am 0
Yikes. Trump just used the F word Posted on24/06/2025, 07:13:38bynuconvert https://freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/4324957/posts Outside the WH answering questions from reporters as he was walking toward Marine 1… He called CNN scum and said “we have 2 countries that have been fighting so long & so hard that they don’t know what the f*** they’re doing ”Needless to say, he’s not happy with Iran, Israel or the msm He also said CNN should apologize to the B2 pilots for doubting that they did a good job destroying the nuke facilities.
Zulu Juliet #463187 June 23, 2025 10:56 am 5
Iran keeps dropping missiles on Israel. What then? How does Israel propose to stop that from happening? It seems Israel has unwittingly signed up for ongoing and endless bombardment.What a sh**show.
Stephanie #463211 June 23, 2025 12:19 pm 6
They will probably just nuke Iran and say they had to since our strikes didn’t work. Or they will say Iran nuked themselves maybe. And all the “judeo-christians” will cheer for it and tell us how blessed by God they are now to have seen the skin peeling off of Iranian children as they slowly die in agony and how God loves that, too. And that God also loves them more than you, because you didn’t cheer.
The Wild Geese Howard #463263 June 23, 2025 2:53 pm 1
They will probably just nuke Iran and say they had to since our strikes didn’t work. This is not that far-fetched. Netanyahu is a fanatic who will realize the B-2 bombing was potentially performative and intended to provide an off-ramp for the US.
Stephanie #463300 June 23, 2025 5:43 pm 3
If Trump or the planners wanted an off-ramp. If not, maybe we didn’t just leave all that equipment to the Taliban, and it’s all built up on Iran’s border on a base they don’t talk about. It does seem like a ridiculous and outrageous thing to have done. Who knows. But no matter what the case may be, we know one thing; the American people are not going to get what they want or vote for. But at least this is happening before they could recruit many more willing soldiers thinking they were working for the USA.
BuckinghamFountainMicturator #463326 June 23, 2025 8:30 pm 4
The script is so bloody hilarious. America buys it, again. If you cannot see this peace deal narrative exposed, nobody can reach your gray matter. The shame is yours who are normies. Our founders had so much more with which to work and yet they failed in their time too. Humans will never colonize the stars. Vapid bonobos. Oh well.
Barney Rubble #463196 June 23, 2025 11:34 am 4
The war in Ukraine is in its fourth year because no one in the West could bother to ask the question, much less answer it.The war in Ukraine has been a resounding success for the people in charge.— Neocons get to see their ancestral enemy bled of men and rubles. A “free Ukraine” is the lie they use to sell it to Fox News rubes, and the Ukrainian people are just collateral damage.— More importantly, the political class continues to benefit from donor bucks and kickbacks derived from US aid and military contracts. So long as the war drags on, the money flows.Whether it’s foreign military adventures, a disastrous immigration policy, or selling off federal land, our elites and their hired minions only care about short-term profits (well, some also enjoy inflicting pain on normie). America is a foreclosed home, and the elites are ripping out the copper wiring.The stated agenda is never the real agenda. It always, always, always goes back to a combination of a few fanatical anti-white ideologues and a bunch of Swamp Dwellers cashing in.
Hokkoda #463329 June 23, 2025 10:07 pm 3
The Bomb-and-invade-the-world brigades invaded Conservative Treehouse over the weekend. I took great joy in repeatedly asking them “And then what?” Their reactions went through to roof with rage. They just kept repeating”Iran cannot have nukes,” over and over and over and it was clearly one of those poll tested phrases meant to frighten people into supporting a broader war. (while denying that was their true goal)So, late today Trump announced a cease fire. Who knows if it is real, but my goodness have the Israel Firsters lost their shit. They were 100% convinced we were heading to full on war with Iran.Trump has a strong hand if he chooses to play it. He should go back to Congress and tell them to declare war on Iran and vote on it or shut up. You want to watch Republicans slither back under their rocks, that would work well.Then, go do a fundraiser for Ken Paxton who is primarying Cornyn in the Senate. Raise a bajillion dollars for Paxton. That’ll bump him 40pts in the polls. Maybe even get him to retire. Then find 5 more Repubs and publicly say “you’re next if you don’t pass my bill”.Trump is in a good place, I think. He can’t be attacked for doing nothing. And simultaneously he can rightly claim he dropped 420,000 tons of explosives on Iran’s nuclear facilities. That leave the Israel firsters exposed to public hostility to US troops entering Israel’s war.I still think he would have been better off refusing to bomb. But I can see the logic. I can also see him telling the Iranians it was coming so they could get their people out of the facilities.If the cease fire is true and holds, the Israel firsters’ heads will explode.
steveaz #463142 June 23, 2025 9:46 am 3
Trump’s move redounds constructively to several domestic and international issues. The creep of Sharia in Europe, illegal immigration in America, the Ivies’ promiscuous import of militant foreign students, the gradual erosion of Christian nationhood and American military deterrence. All are implicated and clarified and assuaged by Trump’s bold move. What then? can be asked as readily when inaction is policy as it can be when action is taken. If you ever supported White ethnonationalism, it’s apparent now that you’ve lost the thread
Hi-ya #463351 June 24, 2025 6:25 am 2
President Trump is justifiably getting savaged by his voters, but in fairness to him he now lives in a town that operates likeJonestown this pst weekend has made me wonder if foreign wars is part of how the us operates and it can’t stop no matter which individuals are plugged into the system. I don’t think it can be stopped
The Wild Geese Howard #463353 June 24, 2025 7:23 am 0
this pst weekend has made me wonder if foreign wars is part of how the us operates Foreign wars are hugely important because they justify the existence of the MIC. One of the MIC’s key functions is siphoning wealth from taxpayers to the pockets of the people running the MIC.
Silver #463348 June 24, 2025 4:58 am 2
“It is beyond creepy to see everyone in Washington act like Israel is the god of the world.” At what point do we acknowledge that everything said about the gems in western civs is beyond true, I really would like to talk and think about something else, but they are always a cancer for any civ. Also, the Gordian knot was solved by Alexander when he just cut it loose. If our people have any chance of survival in the next 100 years, such a man must come around.
Walrus Aurelius #463216 June 23, 2025 12:29 pm 2
“The knife has failed, bring forth the torch.” Seems the cry of the age
Mike Tre #463354 June 24, 2025 7:41 am 1
I’m still not sure Trump has any real control of our military, and it may in fact be operating completely independent of him. We saw this during his first term with the missile strike on Syria and the assassination of that Iranian general. Publicly he has two choices, reveal how weak he is by admitting he has no power, or take responsibility for the attacks and at least appear to be in charge. Knowing Trump’s ego, it’s plainly obvious which choice he would make.
Alzaebo #463282 June 23, 2025 4:15 pm 1
Folks, I realize we are conditioned to submission and defeat, but this gambit is something new. The young bulls are pushing the old bulls off the hill, and they have their own way of doing things. We must look for the opportunities that arise.
PrimiPilus #463181 June 23, 2025 10:49 am 1
A couple of thoughts on this post and the prior mentions of the then-potential operation by our host:I think the term “Pearl Harbor style sneak attack” is not appropriate for what has actually happened (other than it captures a certain imagery concerning the mission’s aerial nature).  Our host has used this terms several times.  It is an effective rhetorical device. Unfortunately, it adds a strong but inaccurate coloring to the operation as conceived and authorized by the Trump administration, and executed by crews and support entities.Trump and his operatives had clearly been warning Iran about what they were planning to do. The nuclear processing sites were plainly identified as potential targets; the method of delivery openly discussed and debated in the media.  There was no real confusion about WHAT he was going to do (if he said: GO). It was only IF, and WHEN. And I don’t think the IF part was seriously in play.There was no “sneak” to it. They knew it was coming. We knew it was coming — the whole world knew it was going to happen.And, yes the Iranians may not be able to see or track the B-2s … but it’s a recognized precept of modern warfare that you attempt concealment and camouflage. Ours is (for now) just better in this arena.  Should we eschew its use?As to the comparison with 1941:  The American general public did not have any idea that there was a real threat to our homeland (if Hawaii could be considered that).  They had only the most vague ideas about Japanese military organization and capabilities, and certainly were not tracking Japanese naval activity.  And there was no recent (or long past) history of direct antagonism between the US and Japan.There was no media saturated social environment; almost no one not in government or the military knew about Japanese operations in China, Korea or Mongolia. Most were absorbed in their own lives.Now, I don’t discount that the Roosevelt administration knew much more. Certainly they had war gamed what and where. And they were working hard on when.The only real “sneak” there, too, was when.  And the Japanese did an excellent job of getting inside of our intel and decision cycles.Really, only the populace was surprised and caught flat footed. That administration, likely was not.So I suppose one could agree that “Sneak” was appropriate 84 years ago – as the whole of our non-govt, non-mil, non-leadership citizenry was blissfully ignorant about the impending blow.  But the same does not obtain now. Trump did not authorize a SNEAK attack, in the sense of doing something dastardly or underhanded.One can disagree with his decision, accuse him of abandoning “America First”, paint him as a neocon or Israeli stooge — whatever one’s motivating beliefs or rational deliberations might demand. But he was not a sneak.What he did was tell them what he was going to do if they did “X”; then he did it.
Alzaebo #463333 June 23, 2025 10:51 pm 0
Yes sir, soldier. He told ’em 60 days, and on day 61 – FAFO.
Steve #463352 June 24, 2025 7:02 am 0
Some sort of mass psychosis has swept the ruling class where they are convinced that their purpose in life is to serve the needs of this flyspeck of a country halfway around the world. If true, and I have no reason to doubt it, the problem is not in the chewish lobby, but in our ruling class. That’s where the solution must lie.
The Wild Geese Howard #463312 June 23, 2025 6:54 pm 0
Lots of stuff coming next:Is Trump cracking up?Maybe, based on his erratic behavior. Also note he doesn’t have a friendly team of a few dozen people trying to cover for him.He threw his cabinet under the bus. Probably most important for Vance, who may not have the personal charisma to recover politically.Who has the grapes to relieve Trump? Vance? Hegseth? The guy with the football? Would that be any better? Actually, football guy probably would be an improvement.MAGA is crackedMaybe this gives Elon an opening for his proposed party.Trump has probably lost enough support at this point he will lose both houses in the midterms and get impeached.This seriously damages Vance’s chances in ’28. People will vote blue to punish the GOP. All the DIE, USAID, and alphabet soup garbage will come right back.What will Israel do?Personally, I don’t think Netanyahu is going to accept the staged tit-for-tat between the US and Iran. He’s too fanatical.That could mean an Israeli tac nuke is on the table, either on Fordow or the USSNimitz.The other thing to watch for is a 4th of July false flag, probably in Chicago or St. Louis. Then the M$M can run around screaming, “Look, look, those dirty Iranians can hit us right in the heartland!! WW3 GO TIME!!”Bonus points to Jeff Sachs telling everyone in the alt media Bibi is thede factoUS President. I don’t think he is going to awaken enough people in time to slow down events.
george 1 #463324 June 23, 2025 8:28 pm 2
I hope that Russia and China have told Bibi that sending a nuke anywhere would not be in his best interest.
Alzaebo #463205 June 23, 2025 12:02 pm -3
First, let me disagree, so I can then further disagree. Trump is a goddam genius.He walked the tightrope between Scylla and Charybdis, and won.He avoided the trap Bibi set for him.He can reset the neocon policies that have ruined our brand and our nation since 1963.One and Done, no dinking around like Europe or Congress, let Israel handle its mess.Remember, a rightful Prince awaits to replace the regime – they are even talking about him in Japan. That’s what all the wailing sisters are missing. Reza is the Then What.Reza’s not a corrupt neocon/Blackrock puppet, to be used then disposed of.Iran will cut off its own flow of funds, and the oil China needs? Off the coast of Iraq and Iran, huge pipes rise out of the ocean – they fill those tanker ships right on the water.Russia, Pakistan, Turkey, or North Korea will give them nukes? So, they can then radiate Gaza and the West Bank? Russia will give them the drones and tanks she needs grinding in Ukraine?We’re hearing hyperbole because the BRICS are about to lose their mullah discount.The Russian engineers are working at Bushir, where a peaceful nuclear power plant is – we aren’t interested in those, but the Israeli klutzes have already bombed near it. Good for us, bad for them.1,000 more IRGC capos have been killed; if you take out enough mob bosses, the mob is no more. Like post-war Japan, the lieutenants will just go to work for the new regime. This isn’t Bush’s Iraq, where they fired all those guys because they had to sign up for the Ba’athist Party before they could get hired. (The stupid ‘viceroy’ “deBaathified” the government in one fell swoop, so they went to work for the Sons of Iraq.)(And Iranian podcasters such as Tousi in England are very optimistic. Every time they’ve tried to protest, the Regime stirs up another Hezbollah incursion. Hezbollah, oddly, is sitting on their hands, and the mullahs are steamin’. “After all we did for you!”, they cry. This was supposed to be the moment Hezbollah and Hamas were made for.)Here is my list of what “One and Done”, leaving the rest for Israel to do, accomplishes:1. Most importantly, the afterwards optics of what Israel will do will further weaken the tikkun olam deathgrip on American culture;2. a Restoration will settle the Mideast giving balance to BRICS negotiation, since nobody wants a bunch of jihadi gangs running around – this is the benefit to both BRICS and Belt/Road;3. the immediate aftermath will at the same time weaken the BRICS hand, since Iran is Russia’s Caspian gateway to the Global South and China/SE Asia’s oil supply – showing peaceful trade is worth more than discounts offered by the mullah mafiosi; the principals will just do business with Pahlavi, while the Saudis divest from oil to invest in Gaza Riviera and the Eilat-Ashkelon pipeline from the offshore gas fields to Iran.4. Trump paid off his obligation to the Palantir zionists that brought him to the party;5. a retored, stable regime lessens the pressure for a “Second Israel” in Ukraine. Israel and Turkey will create some new militias, of course, but Hezbollah, Hamas, and Houthis are about to get an extreme pay cut.
Mike #463265 June 23, 2025 2:57 pm 4
Wow, that’s some take. First what gives you the idea that Eza Pahlavi has any support in Iran? Remember, all except the kleptocrats who were stealing Iran blind wanted him out of power. What they got may have been worse, but Pahlavi was pretty terrible. The son has been living off stolen money for over 40 years now and hasn’t made a peep about freeing Iran until now.Who pays the bills for your Iranian podcasters? Remember probably 90% of the dissidents causing trouble in Iran are in the pay of a foreign intelligence service. Sure, the regime may not be particularly popular but I guarentee you that as the US/Israel gang up on it, the Iranian people will stand with the goverment.
Stephanie #463318 June 23, 2025 7:29 pm 0
I guess it depends on if they see him as someone who will bring pride flags and liberal views and the war goes on, just from a different angle, like what happened in Ukraine evidently. Does he have any dancing in high heels as a ‘comedian’ videos out there?
Alzaebo #463331 June 23, 2025 10:48 pm 0
Thanks, many Indian news services are without doubt in the pay of Iranian intelligence.
Casimir #463294 June 23, 2025 4:49 pm 4
Thank you for the schizo-post Alzaebo, I see your medication went unused this morning.
Alzaebo #463332 June 23, 2025 10:50 pm 1
I went all organic.Got a good connection to some righteous Peruvian shamans.
steveaz #463296 June 23, 2025 5:00 pm 3
Thanks for your vision Alzaebo. I’ll only add that, Trump is, first and foremost, a mask puller. And so, it appears now that Iran’s retaliation involves the New York/New Jersey axis of Democrats pulling the Impeachment trigger. They, and the for-hire mobs are the Mullah’s “boots on the ground” in America. Our domestic enemies are now more exposed than ever! You’d have to be blind not to see the intersection. Why the smart set at Z’s blog can’t see the wider picture is beyind me. I really thought you all were smarter than this.
Alzaebo #463334 June 23, 2025 11:00 pm 1
A mask puller. Indeed. The Noticing is the only way we’ll break the spell, or we’re doomed. It’s becoming a low thunder. Casualties will occur. I just spent a year and a half near prostrate with despair over, well, let’s just call it something that didn’t happen. Enough. They must work out their rage and grief. And thank you for the kind words.
Abbe Faria #463062 June 23, 2025 8:17 am -39
Everybody knows, that the mullahs have got to go.Does that mean war to “topple” the regime? Probably not.The people of Iran could easily clean out the mullahs if they had a little help getting a few of them organized and armed. That’s what needs to happen – it would be better for them, and better for us. It would *not* be better for Blackrock and the big bankers. And that’s the real problem we need to solve. How to cripple our own forever-war machine.Very doubtful that Iran will close off Hormuz, because that would hurt Iran and China more than anyone else.The mullahs have got to go. Somebody inside the Trump admin is working on that as we speak – bet on it.Trump is near-certain to succeed on working with Putin to end the Ukraine war too. Russia will end up in control there, as it should be. NATO should be collapsed, and left to die on its own. Rooting China out of America is the next big job, and the better Trump can do that, the more prosperous and strong we will be.I’m ready to vote him in for a 3rd term!
btp #463071 June 23, 2025 8:29 am 22
I don’t think everybody know that. Please explain why they’ve got to go.
bunions #463077 June 23, 2025 8:34 am 23
You are not good at this.
The Infant Phenomenon #463133 June 23, 2025 9:39 am 5
“You are mentally ill.” Fixed it for ya.
iForgotmyPen #463079 June 23, 2025 8:34 am 26
Premise rejected. Not everybody knows the mullahs must go. Of course you didn’t read the article because it is about second order thinking, which your premise contradicts. How’s the weather in Tel Aviv?
The Infant Phenomenon #463136 June 23, 2025 9:41 am 8
It’s raining. 😉 Or so we are told.
Pam Hyde #463080 June 23, 2025 8:37 am 45
Who gives a shit about the Mullahs? That is their problem not ours. If you are so concerned about it I suggest you get on a plane and fly to Iran. Maybe pass out some leaflets or something. Let them know you are unhappy with the way they govern their society.
RealityRules #463087 June 23, 2025 8:47 am 16
I love this response.
Compsci #463156 June 23, 2025 10:05 am 7
It seems the Iranian people were able to rise up under the “dreaded Shah” and dispose of him and change their government from a monarchy to a theocracy. They should be able to do the same again—if they are so willing. That it has not happened might lend a reasonable person to believe they are not willing. If so, why are we to be involved?
Mycale #463179 June 23, 2025 10:45 am 13
I always wonder how much of “Iranians hate their leaders” thing is legit and how much of it is CIA propaganda. I mean, we live in a country where Congress has an approval rating in single digits yet 90% win re-election every year and we are told that all disapproval of the government is due to bots and Russian misinformation.
Compsci #463233 June 23, 2025 1:02 pm 3
Yep, what to believe in a “world of lies”.This is the essence of my attempted general understanding of today’s world. Information received is most automatically assumed to have a high probability of being simply a lie, or more generously, a supposition not supported by known facts. So my “go to” is always to use skepticism and logic to see through this “fog”.Example, Trump says we’ve eliminated Iran’s nuke program—“mission accomplished!” I think, really? The main site in question was not attacked for days after threat and visible enemy movement to gear up to attack it. So the Iranian government just stood by and let it be attacked—or did they disperse their nuke program and materials in question? I’m sure this is no great revelation to this group.To paraphrase from an old TV show, “The X-Files”, “The truth is out there…”, you just need to be smart enough to see it.
Ostei Kozelskii #463286 June 23, 2025 4:33 pm 2
Never in history has a trusty Bullshit Detector been such an indispensible personal possession.
Alzaebo #463338 June 23, 2025 11:19 pm 0
The streamers are sarcastically calling it, “yeah, everything is fake,” due to the sudden jump in AI video realism. Their answer is, correctly, “so what?” They shrug and move on. The younger ones are adjusting to the current situation.
Ostei Kozelskii #463285 June 23, 2025 4:31 pm 3
Every single wog, whether in Tehran, Tegucigalpa or Tripoli is yearning to liberate her inner Kaylee with the piercings, tatts, and green dreads. If only Captain America and Super Jew would link hands and incinerate every mean dictator, that would happen.
Alzaebo #463339 June 23, 2025 11:24 pm 1
LOL. ROTFLMAO. You are so beautiful when you’re angry.
Alzaebo #463337 June 23, 2025 11:17 pm 0
No doubt. The yentas already tried their schtik with the girls and ‘no hair coverings’. Surprisingly, they got a bit of traction, but only in Tehran.
Alzaebo #463336 June 23, 2025 11:14 pm 0
Like one Iranian girl pointed out, when the government shoots the protestors, welp, you don’t protest much.
NoName #463083 June 23, 2025 8:38 am 30
Abbe Faria: “Rooting China out of America is the next big job”. Could we slow down a little bit, and first rid America of the Mexicans? Then rid America of the kneegrowz? Then rid America of the j00z? [Maybe not necessarily in that order…] PS: Probably wanna put the expulsion of the Pajeets up near the top of the list. [Northern North America, up in Canuckland, is rapidly becoming Pajeet West.]
TempoNick #463143 June 23, 2025 9:46 am -1
“Then rid America of the kneegrowz” For better or worse, they are part of heritage America. They stay in my way of thinking of things. It’s not their fault that a bunch of dumbass farmers were too lazy to do their own work and brought them over.
T. Morris #463201 June 23, 2025 11:48 am 5
When I was a youngster I was told that the “kneegrows” (lol!) got their white European surnames from interbreeding with their rapist slave-owners and drivers. Imagine my surprise when I later got curious about the story and learned the truth of the matter through independent reasearch of original source materials. I was told another fairy tale similar to yours about the lazy sonsabitches who brought the kneegrows over to do all their work, but curiosity got the best of me on that one later on too, and wouldn’t you know I discovered that’s another lie straight from the depths of hell.In any case they’re definitely not Heritage Americans. The vast majority of them would consider your calling them such an insult of the highest order.
TempoNick #463208 June 23, 2025 12:13 pm -6
Yes, they were lazy. By definition, buying flesh to do your work for you is laziness. They were lazy and since we’ve been talking about second order consequences, also not smart enough to think it through. Your great, great, great, great granddaddies brought them here and now we’re stuck with them.
Alzaebo #463341 June 23, 2025 11:32 pm 0
We wuz like dem Hebrews in Egypt!
Mycale #463275 June 23, 2025 3:31 pm 3
Both things can be true. For most blacks, their heritage in the USA goes back further than it does for many Whites. That said, you’re right, they would not consider themselves Heritage Americans, in fact they hate this country and want no part of it, hence their embrace of things like “the Black National Anthem” (the existence of a “black national anthem” implies the existence of a “black nation”, separate from the USA).So how do you untie this knot, I have no idea. We have a political base that has been drawing power from this contradiction since the 14th Amendment and as such it has never been solved or discussed honestly and openly.
Alzaebo #463342 June 23, 2025 11:35 pm 0
Umm, T. Morris wasn’t quite referring to blacks.
NoName #463349 June 24, 2025 5:11 am 2
Bro. 100% of the Transatlantic chattel slave trade industry was owned by (((YouKnowWhom))). In the United States [and likely most of South America], White farmers were completely innocent bystanders, scratching their heads, watching(((YKW)))flood the New World with kneegr0idz.
Alzaebo #463340 June 23, 2025 11:27 pm 0
Haha! Those gosh-dang CCP spies!
TempoNick #463101 June 23, 2025 9:01 am 20
No, everybody doesn’t know that. Iranians have a right to pick their own government without a bunch of ziocons doing it for them.
Alzaebo #463343 June 23, 2025 11:36 pm 0
LOL. They have a right to nukes too!And theyhavea democracy!
Mycale #463103 June 23, 2025 9:04 am 18
Yes, the people of Iran have a sincere desire for western degeneracy just like the people of Afghanistan did. Getting rid of the mullahs and replacing them with western puppets to push western degeneracy would absolutely hurt the people who push degeneracy in the west, like Blackrock and the big bankers, because it just would, ok?
Jannie #463122 June 23, 2025 9:29 am 16
Everyone yearns for a gay bar and a betting shop on every street corner!
Jannie #463121 June 23, 2025 9:28 am 19
We need to liberate Britain from the mullahs first, and 1984-Orwellian types like Keir Starmer.
bunions #463194 June 23, 2025 11:27 am 2
Start with the US first,then Canada. Afterwards…
Dr_Mantis_Tobbogan_MD #463140 June 23, 2025 9:45 am 29
The Iranian people need to sort that out for themselves. I don’t care who rules Iran. Or any country. I don’t care about “human rights” or whatever excuse we use to cause trouble in the world. I’m just so sick of it.We need to sweep behind our own back door step before we take our broom elsewhere. We have at least 60 million illegals in this country who need to be rounded up and shipped back to their country of origin. We have state governments (California, I’m looking at you) in open rebellion.We have much bigger fish to fry here, but instead, our politicians are so obedient to AIPAC and our attention is focused on a war that isn’t our fight.
Mike #463266 June 23, 2025 2:58 pm 0
Obviously Trump is your God.
Alzaebo #463344 June 23, 2025 11:42 pm 0
He is our King! And the only reason he visits the Wailing Wall is to show respect- that house used to be where God lived.
BigJimSportCamper #463355 June 24, 2025 8:04 am 0
It’s part of an old Roman fort.
Alzaebo #463335 June 23, 2025 11:06 pm 0
Dang it, Abbe, you stole my downvotes.I’m supposed the be the punching bag. I wouldn’t worry about elections. Those have been canceled.Our King won’t need any! *wink*


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