Remembering What Comes Next

Note: Tonight at 8:45 PM EDT I will be on a Twitter Space with Paul Kersey, Peter Brimelow, Harrison Smith, Dan Lyman and Jared Taylor. The topic will be who is really in charge of the country.


Thirty years ago, when Bill Clinton was caught chasing interns around the Oval Office, many assumed it was the end of him. Instead, he not only wriggled free of the scandal, and many other scandals, but he seemed to be stronger for it. The reason is Clinton was an extraordinarily clever man. He was not a smart man, in the sense that he could anticipate and avoid problems. Smart men do not have sex with interns. He was clever like a fox in that he could always find a way to slip out of a trap.

The Clintons, of course, set the tone for post-Cold War politics. They brought to Washington the style of politics that is now normal. They formalized both narrative politics, which relies on abductive reasoning to win debates. They also introduced things like media spin and media jamming where they sought to control the narratives at any given moment by overwhelming the system with their messaging. The Clintons made politics into a guerilla media war.

This sort of politics selects for clever over smart. When everything is done in the moment, there is no patience for deliberative politics. In the current Middle East crisis, for example, the information space is controlled by actors chanting rehearsed lines to the other actors in the media. The mainstream media is a Greek chorus and whoever can get the chorus chanting their chants wins. In such an environment there is no room for well thought our arguments and serious debate.

This is a world that favors the clever over the smart. In fact, it strongly selects for the clever and selects against the smart. The guy who tries to make a well-constructed argument from facts and reason does not get invited onto cable chat shows, podcasts or gain a following in social media. On the other hand, the person who is glib and quick on his feet will be in great demand. If he is also entertaining, then he can become a media star and help set the tone of political discourse.

What the Clintons did was merge entertainment and politics so that public policy is often sold to the public as political entertainment. Genuine debates, if they happen at all, are done behind the scenes. Usually, policy is crafted by the powerful interests that have come to dominate a specific domain. Foreign policy, for example, is run by the Israel lobby and the neocons. The political show of the last week around Iran, is about selling it to Trump voters, not genuinely debating the issue.

Another factor here is the explosion of media. Fifty years ago, this sort of politics was impossible as Americans were not living in a 24×7 theater. They consumed news slowly and deliberately through newspapers. Television news was limited to a half hour in the evening and maybe an hour on Sunday. The media menticide of this age was not possible as everyone lived outside the great public theater. Today, most everyone is plugged into the mass media hivemind.

This produces a childishness in the people, because the focus is always on the moment rather than what comes after the moment. Like children, they want their desires satisfied right now, not at some future date. This in turn favors the performers who can deliver that satisfaction right now. As a result, our public discourse is like a comedian rattling off jokes in rapid succession. He may pause and enjoy with the audience the jokes that land, but he quickly moves on from the ones that fail.

You see this with the crisis in the Middle East. The people who caused the crisis quickly moved to the next bit when their first scheme failed. There has been no discussion of what they did or even why they did it, beyond the emotive gibberish, which is intended to set up the next bit. The people who were wrong about the decapitation strike and wrong about the response, are now dancing around on stage promising more good vibes with their next performance.

This is the cause of the collective Gell-Mann amnesia. This is the cognitive bias where people notice the errors in the media about topics they know but trust the same media on the topics about which they know little. Collectively this results in a public fully aware that the media is fake news but still believing what is in the media. Similarly, people who are perpetually wrong, perhaps degenerately so, can continue to control the media narratives on their particular subject.

This sort of public environment rewards those who can quickly slip out of a self-created mess and focus the crowd on the next performance. The clever man, taken to the extreme, is devoid of both a conscience and second order thinking. He lives only in the moment, responding only to the crowd. Like any other actor, he exists only while he is on the stage, performing his role. It is why our politicians look and act like the kids from the high school theater club.

Even the producers of our political theater are not immune to it. They also lack second order thinking. They never ask themselves, “then what?”, after they have settled on some scheme. They just get busy training up the performers. We see this with the Middle East crisis. No one thought about what happens if the scheme fails or what happens if it succeeds. No one thought about what might happen after this caper because they are biologically incapable of second order thinking.

In the fullness of time, the Clinton era will be seen as an inflection point, but it would be unfair to treat them as a cause. Bill Clinton was more of a proof of concept for the emerging mass media politics of the internet age. People forget that Reagan was a trained actor who relied on Hollywood for his public performances. Bill Clinton was the logical extension of what started with Reagan. Bill Clinton was the new performative politics for the mass media age.

The result is we are now dominated by clever men. The genuinely intelligent who possess second order thinking are forced to work within a system that rewards the clever at the expense of the smart. The smart people must find a way to arrange the clever so that they manage to arrive at the right answer while they are searching for a clever way to win the internet or win the news cycle. The smart seek to control the fire that causes the shadows on the cave wall.

This must inevitably fail because the cultural environment favors the clever man who maximizes the moment over the man who thinks long term. The clever guy who can quickly craft a compelling, plausible argument that appeals to the immediate desires of the crowd will always win out over those who seek the right answer. The result is a politics that is more like a variety show than politics. We live from moment to moment, never remembering and never thinking about what comes next.


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Captain Willard #462050 June 17, 2025 8:35 am 95
I hate to be that guy, but the feminization of American politics has destroyed second-order policy thinking. Just as birth control/abortion removed the female need for second-order thinking in their personal lives, the emotive politics and the “gender gap” arising from women’s political involvement have destroyed it in the public policy sphere. The AWFLs and HR cubicle cat-lady politics of this era are living proof of this. Most White men still live in the world of budgets, compound interest, family court and thermodynamics – all second-order constructs.
ray #462090 June 17, 2025 9:47 am 16
Bullseye.
Alzaebo #462128 June 17, 2025 11:15 am 8
Absolute bullseye, indeed. The Ground Zero of bullseyes.
NoName #462188 June 17, 2025 4:23 pm 2
Z: “On the other hand, the person who is glib and quick on his feet will be in great demand. If he is also entertaining, then he can become a media star and help set the tone of political discourse.“Is this not simply sophistry?https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SophistCaptain Willard:“I hate to be that guy, but the feminization of American politics has destroyed second-order policy thinking.”Are not women the primary objects of the Sophists‘necromancy?Way back in the 1990s, were we not deluged with stories concerning Soccer Moms having naughty dreams about Bill Clinton?Was the Sophist Bill Clinton not the Incubus of the Soccer Moms?[Because Hillary sure as hell wasn’t the Succubus, unless we’re talking rather butch Sapphistry.]
Xman #462098 June 17, 2025 10:13 am 7
100% this.
fakeemail #462121 June 17, 2025 10:59 am 7
it’s the dismal tide. It’s not the one thing.
ray #462142 June 17, 2025 12:13 pm 8
That one thing brought the dismal tide, and institutionalized it.
pyrrhus #462179 June 17, 2025 3:21 pm 12
Absolutely…and that is why the EU, ruled almost exclusively by women, is going down the drain pretty rapidly…They prioritize Ukraine, 3d world emigration and their Gaian “climate change” fantasies, all backed by enormous spending that is wrecking their economies and political systems…But they will continue until the EU collapses or the proles finally overthrow them….
Caveman #462208 June 18, 2025 6:53 am 1
Painfully obvious. It’s perpetually junior high school.
TempoNick #462035 June 17, 2025 7:43 am 58
If you ask me, I think (((they))) just demonstrated to everybody in vivid detail exactly why Iran should have nukes. Without nukes, Iran remains exposed to the whims of the current day Evil Empire and its greatest ally. If Iran doesn’t protect themselves, they’ll get another Shah shoved down their throats before they know it.
The Wild Geese Howard #462038 June 17, 2025 7:53 am 24
The current rumors are that Iran is now racing to build a bomb any which way they can. Heckuva job, AINO.
Jack Dodson #462048 June 17, 2025 8:21 am 23
Given what Pakistan has state publicly, Iran might get whatever passes as an Islamic Christmas gift–through cutouts, of course.
TempoNick #462052 June 17, 2025 8:40 am 15
Turnabout is fair play.
Alzaebo #462108 June 17, 2025 10:40 am 0
Short term thinking! Iran will sell it to others to buy support. Tactical nukes will break out of the gaping non-proliferation fence, and get normalized in an age of drones. AQ Khan of Pakistan already did this. Of course, if we want to reduce that burgeoning population…letting South West/Central Asia turn themselves into a sea of microbes would be a pretty nice outcome. Heck, we should set up the biolabs there, since that’s where most of the live organ-harvesting warehouses are.
Steve W #462187 June 17, 2025 4:18 pm 6
I had the misfortune of overhearing the first few minutes of Sean Hannity’s radio program this afternoon. Anything that he says is pure Ingsoc. He was using his opening segment to lay out the “irrefutable” case for preventing Iran from developing nuclear weaponsby any means necessary.Because “we all know” what the mullahs will do with them, right? How dare Iran pursue a self-serving defence and national security policy! What crazy country would do that? Meanwhile, the nuclear scoreboard still reads: actual use of nuclear weapons – USA 2, rest of world 0.
Jeffrey Zoar #462191 June 17, 2025 4:45 pm 3
I wonder what’s the scoreboard for GAE military adventures of which Hannity approves vs ones he doesn’t. Not having kept careful track over the years, it wouldn’t surprise me if he has backed all “Republican” wars while expressing skepticism about all “Democrat” ones. It also wouldn’t surprise me if he’s been bipartisan in his support of all of them. What would surprise me is independent thinking.
Steve W #462202 June 17, 2025 6:06 pm 1
Sadly I spent more time than I should have on editing the previous comment. It all got ejected by the time limit. There was a whole lot more I wanted to say, only peripherally about Hannity, who is an NPC stooge. Of course, his (considerable) income stream is a function of his “flexible” convictions, not of what his tiresome intro calls “bold and inspired solutions for America.” Hannity is one of the best arguments for not being a conservative…In this context, I would like to ask him what, specifically, would be the “any means necessary.” Nuclear? But Israel has never claimed that it has nuclear weapons. In the eighty years since 1945, there hasn’t been a nuclear attack by any country whatsoever, and this is because countries that join the nuclear club broadcast it to the world.It’s not supposed to be a threat,It’s a deterrent.If the “Sampson Option” is real, then Israel, vis a vis Iran, stands in an asymmetric military relationship with them. If I were an Iranian, quite aside from my attitude toward the mullahs, I would not be happy about this. Where does a small and belligerent nation get off threatening “us” with a threat that they have never acknowledged, that we all know is true, and that we can neutralize by producing a symmetric counter-threat?History shows that nuclear parity is the soundest guarantee that these terrible weapons will not be used.*So why doesn’t Israel just flat out declare that they have nuclear weapons? I assume it is because it would implicate the source, the USA, guilty violating the non-proliferation treaties in force at the time.*Haven’t looked into it, but when the Soviets finally exploded a nuke in 1949, I can imagine the rejoicing of the Soviet people, despite the misery of living under Stalin.
TempoNick #462204 June 17, 2025 8:20 pm 0
Hannity sounds like he’s going to have an orghasm every time he says, “Bibi Netanyahu.” Just another Republican Uncle Tom.
Mycale #462053 June 17, 2025 8:40 am 45
That’s why North Korea fast-tracked their bomb, and guess what, they’re still in charge of their country and nobody is dropping bombs on Pyongyang. I don’t know why Iran didn’t go down that route. It seems like they thought long-term, reason and moderation would win the day. They signed the JCPOA in good faith. They didn’t seem to understand the revolutionary spirit they are dealing with.
The Wild Geese Howard #462059 June 17, 2025 8:49 am 29
They didn’t seem to understand the revolutionary spirit they are dealing with. I believe Putin has the same blind spot with regard to Ukraine and NATO expansion.
Evil Sandmich #462106 June 17, 2025 10:37 am 6
Surely the American Empire is not just a stack of insane idiots! Guessing their intelligence services don’t own a TV.
Vizzini #462109 June 17, 2025 10:40 am 8
But Russia does have the bomb.
Pozymandias #462159 June 17, 2025 1:41 pm 14
The Iranian leadership, like the heads of most (real) countries, is still living in the world of diplomacy, and the idea of seeking deals that have at least some mutual benefit to everyone involved. They’re used to dealing with people who can, most of the time, be assumed to be acting in good faith if not good intentions.Instead the current leadership in the West is a bunch of teenagers who think they’re the Good Guys in a capeshit movie. Everything they do and say is just filler to move the plot along to the Big Ending. The plot, of course, is just one of the many branches of the Arc of History which, as we know, moves inexorably towards “justice”. The warmongering makes sense because the Big Ending always has lots of ‘splosions and CGI effects of the Bad Guys’ faces melting like the Nazis’ in Raiders of the Lost Ark.In a way, living in this environment is like living in the Hood. It might be nice if you could call a meeting of all the leading gangsters like the old Italian and Jewish mobs did. The players this time are all too stupid for that so you just need to have the most and biggest guns possible and wave them around frequently. In other words, every two-bit country now needs a nuke.I’d even say there’s another parallel. Black gangsters have been observed to often be oddly “feminine”, prone to emotional instability and irrational behavior that doesn’t even advance their goals. This is, of course, typical female behavior too. It’s no surprise that Western Europe especially, is run by girlbosses and we just narrowly avoided ending up with a particularly stupid one running the US too.
Chmi #462194 June 17, 2025 5:08 pm 6
Europe ran by girlbosses? That’s only in appearance: those “girlbosses” are nothing but script-readers; and it is obvious.
The Greek #462069 June 17, 2025 9:02 am 35
Bingo. All of the “answers” presented are based on the “obvious” presumption that Iran getting nuclear weapons=bad. No one asks, “why?” The reality is this, mutually assured destruction works. Pakistan is filled with Islamic extremists, they haven’t nuked India yet in some country wide suicide bombing. Ditto for North Korea. Are we to assume Iran will just nuke Israel and end its own country’s existence in the name of Islamic solidarity or anti-semitism? That’s what we’re assuming? No, Iran getting nukes is “bad” because you can’t Willy nilly do decapitation strikes and bully them around anymore, as seen in Pyongyang.
iForgotmyPen #462088 June 17, 2025 9:44 am 36
Pakistan to my knowledge never threatening The Chosen probably has something to do with them joining the club, plus it benefits China to have a counter-balanced nuke power with India. What I always found laughable was this constant fake tension of Iran feverishly working on nukes for 40 years but never able to quite get there. Any half-rate team could put one together in a garage but we’re supposed to believe a country with the resources and human capital of the former Persian Empire just couldn’t get the math right? Maybe they have a bunch of African women working in the math department.And in another of life’s strange coincidences, it just so happens the Iran is seconds away from getting the bomb, so of course Israel has to strike. What fortuitous timing that it just so happens that 40 years of Iran moving towards nukes culminated at the same time that Gaza needed to be ethnically cleansed and Syria needed to be overthrown. Just a happy little accident I’m sure.But yes, these people always define the premise before the argument even begins. We always begin the discussion with “we all know blank” with blank being whatever benefits them.
Evil Sandmich #462110 June 17, 2025 10:42 am 27
We have to go to war to prevent Iran from getting Da Bomb!! Why? Well they might bomb New York! … … … You’re going to have to do better than that. Hard to get fired up to go to war with someone who hates most of the same things I do. I mean, yeah, they’re not a friend, but neither are the people who hate them.
Alzaebo #462124 June 17, 2025 11:07 am 5
Allright, my apologies to Temponick, you guys are kind of winning me over. The Iranian Bomb would tie up the Sneak Thieves, perhaps they’d refocus their enmity on their cousins instead of us.Egypt, for instance, doesn’t want the Palestinians because Israel would use that as an excuse to nuke the Aswan Dam. MAD would settle down South Asia but then we’d have a different proliferation – consanguinous inbreeders returning to their African rate of fertility but without the mortality limits, more “climate refugees” to flood our European homelands.Eff it, let ’em all get the bomb – they won’t be able to keep it in their pants very long. Do we want a Muslim Europe or do we want anuclear-armedMuslim Europe?
Alzaebo #462189 June 17, 2025 4:32 pm 4
Bibi: the guy who launches an attack while committing a genocide calls Iran Hitler.
Dutchboy #462103 June 17, 2025 10:34 am 12
You might think they have considered the fates of Khaddafi and Saddam Hussein. You might be right.
Alzaebo #462104 June 17, 2025 10:35 am 3
Now Princess Noor Pahlavi is joining in, so it’s full court press.And, not personal, one is bug-fuck ignorant if one thinks having a Shah “shoved down their throat” is worse than the pedophile Mullah Mafia. We MUST break away from the Semitic trap of “Judeochristianity, Judaism, or Islam”.To base one’s moral opinion on what an enemy has told us is pure Gell-Mann short-term amnesia. Yes, a puppet – that’s the reality of power and support- but not fully the MEK or several other Israeli-backed “dissident” groups. And if the Bully in the region is behind it, then it has punch.Remember, Islam is far worse immediately, and it is the spearhead of Judaism. It’s the thug busting through the front door when they can’t sneak through the back door.Laws and EOs against “antisemitism” means you go to jail for opposing any Semite- as we see with the manufactured consent ginned up for the Left and their “Palestinian protests”.
Vizzini #462112 June 17, 2025 10:43 am 15
Noor Pahlavi, who just married a Jew: https://www.thejc.com/news/world/iranian-princess-marries-jewish-businessman-in-lavish-paris-wedding-wqvzirys
3g4me #462148 June 17, 2025 12:44 pm 10
Apparently two or three members of the tv show “Shahs of Sunset” (never saw it; don’t watch tv) were Jewish as well. From what I’ve read, the Jewish/Iranian and Jewish/Albanian mixes tend toratchet up the mix of unpleasant characteristics.
Arshad Ali #462156 June 17, 2025 1:21 pm 5
Not even sure the Pahlavis are Iranian. More Turk than Iranian.
Vizzini #462151 June 17, 2025 12:53 pm 2
Wouldn’t let me correct this earlier, but it’s her younger sister (32) that married a 70-year-old Jew.
Jack Dodson #462041 June 17, 2025 8:04 am 35
Obama epitomized the triumph of clever over smart. He also is a good representative of the short shelf life of a currently prized performer–once the act grows stale, people tune out. I doubt Obama could fill a stadium at a HBCU at this point.This is the cause of the collective Gell-Mann amnesia.It is truly alarming. Americans already had the attention span of a gnat. That would be an insult to a gnat now. I think social media probably played a larger role, but, yes, the transition to performance over substance played a huge role in the disappearance of memory.As for Iran, whether it happens there or not, a truly crushing and humiliating military defeat might–might–focus the minds of Americans. I still think it will take economic deprivation and that generously assumes they would recall it did not always exist.
Captain Willard #462043 June 17, 2025 8:11 am 40
Yes. Obama ended up as the Vanilla Ice of politicians. He was a novelty act.
Chris #462100 June 17, 2025 10:24 am 4
Quote of the decade! Thanks.
Barnard #462046 June 17, 2025 8:18 am 23
Obama’s commitment to using South Side Chicago locals as workers at his Presidential library has long delayed the project. The gigantic eyesore is now expected to open next year. The biggest surprise is that no one seems to care about any of it. Michelle got a small amount of attention for some complaining about him a couple of months ago, but otherwise he is fading away.
ray #462068 June 17, 2025 8:59 am 9
‘Obama epitomized the triumph of clever over smart’ Yep. ‘Hold my beer’, Barry said to Bill. 
Nancysjet #462061 June 17, 2025 8:51 am 7
Can we set up a go fund me for Obama ,to get him out of d.c. ?asking for a friend
ray #462065 June 17, 2025 8:56 am 3
‘Obama epitomized the triumph of clever over smart’ Yep. Barry said to Bill, ‘Hold my beer.’
Dutchboy #462107 June 17, 2025 10:38 am 1
True but so far, Obama’s foreign policy seems more rational than Trump’s. He wasn’t as tied into the Zionist thing as Trump (or Biden). The major black mark against him was allowing HRC to talk him into the Libya debacle.
Jannie #462123 June 17, 2025 11:03 am 10
Obama foreign policy delegation to people like HRC, McCain, and Nuland set us up for today’s disasters. What was he thinking?
Alzaebo #462192 June 17, 2025 4:55 pm 3
I’d say it was him orchestrating the Arab Spring, a test by our Intelligence Community of social media’s capabilities. They George Floyd’d the region, starting with one fruitseller (in Tunis?) setting himself on fire, leading to Muslim Brotherhood briefly taking over Egypt, and a cascade of other effects – the worst of which was the intentional flood of war refugees into Merkel’s Germany and the EU.
Alzaebo #462130 June 17, 2025 11:19 am 10
I mean, mixing Captain W’s feminine first-order thinking with Negroid low time-preference? Affirmative Action has killed us all. Now these twits are the Mayor. Thanks, Jews, for Liberating us from racisms and sexisms!
G Lordon Giddy #462039 June 17, 2025 7:56 am 33
The Israel lobby brings chaos to the nations around them by being clever while the neocon brings chaos to Ukraine by being clever as the judeo/puritan brings chaos to America with a truck load of cleverness.It seems the outcome is always chaos.I dont expect the American Empire to last much longer in the grips of all these clever people. Steve Bannon is on Tucker trying to convince Tucker publically to join this chaos generator. I would advice Tucker to stay away.
TempoNick #462042 June 17, 2025 8:07 am 15
I saw that and to give Tucker credit, it appears that he absolutely does know his limitations.
Mr. Invisible #462051 June 17, 2025 8:35 am 20
Tucker referenced Louis “Jolly” West, the CIA psychologist who seemed to visit every assassin and terrorist from Jack Ruby to McVeigh, and had ties to Manson and Jim Jones as well, in his interview with Bannon. Bannon then went on to discuss JJ Angleton’s role in JFK’s assassination in a conversation that Angleton had with Sen. Gary Hart in which Angleton referenced an Old Testament quote, sending Hart back to Mike Mansfield in the Senate to tell him to “shut it down.”
ray #462070 June 17, 2025 9:04 am 5
Oh my. That is peeking under the skirt of Columbia.
Mr. Invisible #462079 June 17, 2025 9:16 am 8
Bannon: “In 1963, we had a coup d’etat.” He singles out how Jerry Ford stepped in during a key moment during Warren Commission testimony where one of Oswald’s co-workers was being interviewed about what he saw Oswald doing moments before the assassination to tell the witness “you’re a felon, right?” to derail the entire conversation.https://youtu.be/tFM6L6TopsM?feature=shared&t=2215
ray #462094 June 17, 2025 10:07 am 20
That’s correct, the U.S. coup occurred in 1963. I’ve written about this at length over the past two decades. Who was deposed? Christian, traditional America and its Catholic king. Who seized (overt) power? Masonic, neo-gnostic elements already embedded in intel. It is no coincidence that the Civil Rights and Immigration acts immediately followed. America post-’63 bears no resemblance to its predecessor.
Barney Rubble #462201 June 17, 2025 5:49 pm 2
I watched a little of that interview and was irked to hear both Tucker and Bannon blame “the Deep State” for beating the war drums on Iran. Obviously, Permanent Washington is a yuge problem and needs to be gutted. But the Intel Community — Deep Staters, obviously — just put out an assessment saying that Irandoesn’thave a nuke program. A bizarre way to cheerlead another war. I came away thinking that talking about The Deep State is a way toavoid mentioningthe Israel Lobby. Maybe the interview got better after I bailed.
Alzaebo #462162 June 17, 2025 2:00 pm 1
The Left podcasters are really dunking on Tucker right now, so a pincer operation has him in the crosseye. Treehouse complained about his rambling, off-center performance, so I think he’s under serious stress.
Templar #462193 June 17, 2025 5:07 pm 1
Leftoids don’t dunk. They may attempt dunking, but generally the best they can achieve is autistic screeching.
Mycale #462047 June 17, 2025 8:20 am 30
Bill Clinton might have been larping as a serious statesman, but Dubya was larping as a rootin’ tootin’ cowboy who swaggers into the saloon for a beer after he won the duel. This guy was a friggin secret society member at Yale and took an oath to Lord-knows-what and surrounded himself with lunatic neocons but all we heard was about how good he looked in a flight suit and how much better he is to have a beer with than the losers he was up against (he didn’t even drink). This doesn’t even compare to the next guy, who was entirely a creation of the media, secret societies, communist agitators, and likely the intelligence community. It’s like they crafted the guy they felt like the public needed at each point in time, and just ran out of juice in 2016 when Americans shockingly chose the guy who was a loudmouth since the 1980s over the feminist queen glass ceiling breaker.
Steve #462054 June 17, 2025 8:40 am 4
“This guy was a friggin secret society member at Yale and took an oath to Lord-knows-what…” Yes, but oaths mean nothing to these types.
Mycale #462055 June 17, 2025 8:43 am 20
Well, some oaths matter. The secret society oaths seem to matter. The oaths that, say, Louis Brandeis made as he covertly worked for Zionist causes in his capacity as a Supreme Court judge surely mattered to him.
ray #462087 June 17, 2025 9:44 am 9
That is incorrect. These are blood oaths at high levels of power, and no joke. Your leaders gather each year to celebrate their goddess in the groves of California. Do you imagine them impotent as well? You break your oath, they do nasty things to you and your family. This is not tv.
Arshad Ali #462143 June 17, 2025 12:29 pm 4
It’s like that 1970 film, “The Brotherhood of the Bell.” Yes, these societies do matter. I’m just pissed I don’t belong to one myself. I’d gladly join the Sicilian Mafia, the Neapolitan Camorra or the Union Corse if any of them would have me. No kidding.
unemployed weatherman #462147 June 17, 2025 12:44 pm 4
“Any club that would admit me as a member is not an organization I would care to join” (Groucho Marx)
Alzaebo #462133 June 17, 2025 11:34 am 10
True that oaths made to the American public don’t matter.It’s okay to lie to the enemy.
ray #462084 June 17, 2025 9:37 am 7
Great comment. Right on the button.‘It’s like they crafted the guy they felt like the public needed at each point in time’That’s because they did. Obama was an entirely artificed entity, whose grooming started even before birth, as Moms was sp00ked up. They took the prima materia — a cunning, swaggering, neighborhood player — and molded him into the president they wanted at that particular time.How quickly folks forget Pharaoh’s Global Messiah Tour. It is a mistake to assume Obie is out of the power loop now. He is a poison mushroom that keeps breaking through the soil.As Nance Pelosi might say, it’s not a democracy, it’s Our Democracy.
Alzaebo #462135 June 17, 2025 11:48 am 4
Case in point: the Obama-Holder era Intel Community Inspector General (ICIG) construct. The building remains after the masons are gone. And not for nothing did the Spider have his Kalomara mansion two miles from the Biden White House, with their fellow Khalid Rashidi protege Kamala Harris ready to step into the Presidential shoes.Remember, this guy toured golf courses near homosexual Democrat power players’ homes. He’s a master at covert cell networks, that’s how he turned ACORN from an Arkansas cell of 30 old hippies into an unseen national army of 300,000 activists, or the black AME churches into a recruitment and ballot-harvesting machine. With Presidential clearance, this agent had serious contacts, and you can never leave the Mafia, no matter how your star has faded.
ray #462144 June 17, 2025 12:34 pm 2
Indeed.
Dutchboy #462111 June 17, 2025 10:42 am 8
I used to say that Clinton spent his life chasing women and public office, while Bush spent his chasing a whisky bottle and public office. Each was a disaster in his own way but I think Dubya was more disastrous in retrospect.
Jeffrey Zoar #462127 June 17, 2025 11:14 am 4
Dubya was more disastrous in the sense of what otherwise might have been, had “conservatives” not (yet again) been hoodwinked by someone who claimed to represent their interests. The same basic coalition that elected Trump has been there at least since Goldwater.
3g4me #462149 June 17, 2025 12:48 pm 19
Prime opportunity immediately following 9/11 to cut off all immigration with bipartisan support and instead dubya dials it up to the max. Larping POS – and his daughters are airhead attention whores.
Alzaebo #462185 June 17, 2025 4:04 pm 0
Well come on, we had that Bruce Willis movie about deporting innocent Muslim immigrants,The Siege –we’re bad people! So there I was, sitting next to a nervous, close-mouthed Arab at a diner just outside of New York, having breakfast at 4 a.m. on 9/12 – he was taking his little daughter and getting the heck out of town. (Somebody did tell me they were pulling anybody who looked Arab out of cabs downtown and beating the living shit out of them.)
Arshad Ali #462040 June 17, 2025 8:00 am 24
Can’t disagree with anything you’re saying. Trump of course is neither clever nor smart and seemingly makes one maladroit move after another. Even Joe Masseria and Sal Maranzano acted with more intelligence than Trump does. In fact I wonder how much actual agency Trump does have, if any. One thing to mention in passing is that fifty years ago the country was more “white” and had more “Asabiyyah.” Now it’s more balkanized.
Alzaebo #462164 June 17, 2025 2:09 pm 3
Balkanized, dysfunctional, weakened economically, militarily, intellectually, racially- if you can’t outright defeat an enemy, destabilization works wonders to handicap their strengths.
RealityRules #462044 June 17, 2025 8:13 am 23
Perception management was a term coined well before Clinton. By the mid 80s the three ring flea circus of regime media was already well in place. The bombing of Ghadafi (sp?) was a well oiled propaganda campaign. It advanced with the deposing of Noriega in Panama. Then, it reached full maturity with, “Operation Desert Storm”, being a 24×7 multi-channel sports pre-game, halftime and post-game show all rolled into one. You could argue that it began really with the Cold War and the creation of what we now call the, “Post War Consensus” or the “Boomer Truth Regime.”Its roots are deep and its toehold the psyche of the lobotomized audience and the psychopathic producers. Bernays codified the psychological hydrogen bomb that was unleashed on Western Civilization in tandem with Popper’s savaging of its foundational principles espoused by Plato.Clinton was a logical next step. He was the Boomer with an MBA whose credentials also included the cool factor of licentiousness, vice and promiscuity that an already collapsed civilization and empire erected as a cope and a lure to throw on the ankle weights and go down with the ship.Buchanan asked, “Will America survive to 2025?” Before our very eyes America and Americans are in a fight with an invading population and a degenerate petite bourgeoisie class.Apparently Gavin Newsome’s wife was shopping in LA this weekend with her personal body guard and her mansion priced hand bags, excuse me, um clutches. Apparently, on good authority from inside sources, here clique of all-in-on-TDS White women were texting about how to attend a riot with gas masks, tear gas treatements … … Of course, they probably flew off from a private air field to inspect their new mansion build sites on Maui on the way to their private Borneo bungalows.
Captain Willard #462049 June 17, 2025 8:21 am 30
Yes. I would just add that Clinton is a lawyer, not MBA. This explains his excellent parsing of words and hair-splitting.I would also add that Clinton was the first president overtly marketed to women voters. The “gender gap” started with Reagan but reached its apogee with Trump. But I would argue that Clinton ushered in the era of “feminized politics” in America.
RealityRules #462067 June 17, 2025 8:59 am 4
Excellent points. Clinton was the representative of the Harvard/Wharton MBA class was more my point. Have a great day Cap.
Captain Willard #462092 June 17, 2025 10:01 am 2
Not totally representative,,,wink
Dutchboy #462116 June 17, 2025 10:46 am 3
I found Clinton’s physical appearance to be unappealing. Pillsbury doughboy body with hips wider than shoulders. Being prez makes a three into a nine.
Jeffrey Zoar #462129 June 17, 2025 11:15 am 8
Status and smooth talking matter more to women than physical appearance. The latter just gets your foot in the door, the former two keep it there.
ray #462075 June 17, 2025 9:12 am 5
Good stuff. Clinton and Obama as inevitable after Bernays wrote the book. If Barry Soetoro is not an artifice of modern magicians, who is? Ed Bernays was Freud’s nephew, apple not far from tree etc. And those two Bush babies — what apt thespians they were! With the serious faces and all. Yes, indeed quite a jolyon crew.
Jack Boniface #462074 June 17, 2025 9:09 am 21
There was a 1985 book on the early manifestations of this, “Amusing Ourselves to Death,” by Neil Postman. Quote: “What Orwell feared were those who would ban books. What Huxley feared was that there would be no reason to ban a book, for there would be no one who wanted to read one.”
3g4me #462150 June 17, 2025 12:52 pm 24
Old news. Colleges are filled with womyn and POX who are literally and admittedly illiterate. Mass majority of high school grads – besides being nonwhite – have never read an entire book. The feared future is the awful present, and it’s not fixable and it’s not going away.
Nikolai Vladivostok #462062 June 17, 2025 8:54 am 18
Speaking of living in the moment, did we ever figure out which clever person approved the plan to colour revolution Gaddafiafterhe’d given up his nukes and come to terms? And why is no one mentioning his name right now?
Jeffrey Zoar #462073 June 17, 2025 9:09 am 9
France taking the lead in that operation was not a coincidence. That was who stood to suffer the most from Gaddafi’s economic plan.
Captain Willard #462093 June 17, 2025 10:07 am 7
The Italians, who had big concessions in Libya, are still butt-hurt over France’s role in this. It partially explains Meloni’s dislike for Macron.
Dutchboy #462120 June 17, 2025 10:58 am 9
I have read that Gaddafi’s doom was his plan to start accepting payments other than dollars for oil purchases.
Jeffrey Zoar #462125 June 17, 2025 11:09 am 5
Why Qaddafi had to go: African gold, oil and the challenge to monetary imperialism
Jeffrey Zoar #462134 June 17, 2025 11:35 am 10
That link doesn’t really lay out the scam that France runs on its former west African colonies, through which they have to pay tribute to France for the privilege of using its currency. Gaddafi’s proposed pan African currency sought to replace that.
Alzaebo #462182 June 17, 2025 3:41 pm 3
The gold-backed Libyan dinar met the same fate as the Iraqi dinar; it was to be the basis for a North African Union bloc;(Saddam was limited to Food-4-Oil), plus they wanted his weapons for the Benghazi ratline to Turkey and ISIS, and an oil bank for that light, sweet Libyan crude opened up in a country with no government the week after Gaddafi was assassinated. Also said was that nuclear bomb parts, blueprinted in Pakistan and machined in Malaysia, were stored with uranium refined to an unknown degree in a cavern system.
Alzaebo #462141 June 17, 2025 12:07 pm 3
France, as in Sarkozy, who is a Parentheses Person, and NATO.
RealityRules #462157 June 17, 2025 1:21 pm 5
Oh man. So that explains the sinister videos of him appearing at EU events saying if French won’t voluntarily miscegenate out they will be compelled to, but going before Arabs and saying that they would never expose Arabs to the racial humiliations that Frenchmen are. Every. Single. Time.
iForgotmyPen #462058 June 17, 2025 8:47 am 18
This is a recurring phenomenon with our elites- never having to pay for their mistakes. If they just narrative hard enough, reality doesn’t matter. We’ve seen this time and time again. Ukraine and Syria being the latest examples where we thought we could just write slick propaganda and rule the day, only to have it blow up in our faces. No worries though, spin up a fake victory report and move on to the next one.This Israel crap is following this pattern. Loads of “This is the greatest military victory in the history of mankind” reports, yucking it up by the usual suspects and their normie useful idiots, followed by actual terrible third order effects brought on by this meddling, followed like night after day by a complete memory-holing of the entire affair.
TempoNick #462139 June 17, 2025 11:58 am 4
According to the Wall Street Journal, Trump just demanded that Iran unconditionally surrender. @ 12:30 PM
Jeffrey Zoar #462167 June 17, 2025 2:17 pm 5
Now that he’s posted that “we” control the skies over Iran, there is no longer any pretense. If there ever was. I expect US forces will be openly involved in a matter of hours. If they aren’t already.
Xman #462045 June 17, 2025 8:15 am 18
And, (((who))), exactly are the people known for being clever but not smart? Who has controlled out media for the past century? Who have been the biggest stand-up comics? The pornographers? The shyster lawyers? The financial swindlers? The people like Boesky and Milken and Madoff who prize immediate profit at the expense of long-term financial stability?Well, it’s the same people controlling our foreign policy. The same people who bit off more than they could chew when they committed an unprovoked attack on Iran, and now want Uncle Sugar to bail their asses out.You can and should blame the stupid goyim for allowing themselves to be bamboozled, but the Tribe of professional bamboozlers have been at it for 4,000 years and are, unfortunately, pretty damn good at it.
TempoNick #462140 June 17, 2025 12:00 pm 1
As much as I ignore the mainstream media, I’m also skeptical that these alternative sites are correct in their analysis. I’m not saying Zee is wrong, just that we have to wait and see.
Vizzini #462105 June 17, 2025 10:37 am 17
the crisis in the Middle East This term itself is a media term. There is no crisis in the Middle East. These people have been scrapping with each other for thousands of years and they will continue to do so. Their squabbles are not our crisis.
Jeffrey Zoar #462077 June 17, 2025 9:14 am 14
Clever over smart succeeds only so long as one controls the reserve currency money printer (or as long as one is a vassal state of he who does). You’ll note that Russia and China are not part of the clever over smart brigade, the opposite usually. Russia especially. I believe that clever over smart is a product of owning the money printer, that it never would have come about otherwise. The geographic invulnerability of AINO, combined with the money printer, gave rise to a class of “leaders” who didn’t have to worry about consequences, only about power.
Captain Willard #462095 June 17, 2025 10:11 am 6
This is a great point. To date, we “printed” our way out of second-order consequences. But we have pushed it to the limit. We de-SWIFT-ed Russia and they didn’t collapse. So we created a market for a replacement SWIFT. We regime change non-nuclear states, so we create a market for nuclear proliferation………
Zorro the lesser Z man #462155 June 17, 2025 1:18 pm 3
This, 6 million percent – always follow the money. Being able to print fake and gay FRN’s has allowed ZOG to get into all kinds of trouble.
NateG #462060 June 17, 2025 8:51 am 14
I’ve always said that Bill Clinton was the beginning of the end for this country. I knew some people back in the 90’s who thought he was the anti-Christ. Hillary was probably co-President and she started promoting the woke stuff but after the 1994 mid-term Democrat disaster, was told to tone it down. After that Bill Clinton basically became a prostitute and did whatever would make him popular. I honestly believe he was initially a throw away candidate, but someone convinced Ross Perot to run and take away votes from Bush.
Mr. Invisible #462072 June 17, 2025 9:07 am 0
It’s impossible to determine whether Perot cost Bush the election. Montana and Nevada, which went to Clinton because of Perot’s high vote total, would not have been sufficient in terms of Electoral College votes had they remained Republican to give Bush the win.https://www.aei.org/articles/dont-know-whether-perot-cost-bush/
Jeffrey Zoar #462114 June 17, 2025 10:45 am 10
Did it matter? We were getting the same globohomo whether it was Clinton or Bush. Perot’s sin wasn’t taking votes away from one or the other, it was dropping out and re-entering. Otherwise he might have beaten both of them.
Zulu Juliet #462132 June 17, 2025 11:27 am 4
Perot’s sin wasn’t taking votes away from one or the other, it was dropping out and re-entering He lost me when he did that.
NateG #462163 June 17, 2025 2:05 pm 2
I lived in California during this election and every Republican I knew there voted for Perot. He actually won a few counties in California. Remember, California was Republican back then. I believe Perot came in second behind Clinton in Colorado. Many states were won by a small amount of votes. The media went in to damage control after the election, claiming Perot took more votes from Clinton, which I think is complete BS. BTW, Perot was massive pro-Israel.
Dutchboy #462117 June 17, 2025 10:56 am 7
The Clintons’ big “achievement” was completing the transition of the Dems from the working class party to the party of the oligarchs. The outsourcing of the industrial economy was crippling the Dem’s old labor union allies and enriching the oligarchs. What to do? Ditch the working class and embrace the oligarchs! Clinton was a member of the Democratic Leadership Council, an organization of wealthy Dems and their political stooges whose mission was to make the Democratic Party oligarch-friendly under the guise of “moderation.” They had some resistance inside the party (Jesse Jackson used to refer to them as the “Democratic Leisure Class Council” but their money carried the day. Now you have various “populist” Dems being financed by the oligarchs they claim to oppose.
ray #462146 June 17, 2025 12:41 pm 3
Yes. Fifty years ago the Dems were the party of the male working class. By 1990 they were the sworn enemies of males, but especially of WC and MC.
Dutchboy #462102 June 17, 2025 10:32 am 9
Media manipulation has been around ever since media. FDR managed to hide his paralysis from the public thanks to media cooperation. He also had his critics in the press purged and sent down the memory hole. Previously famous journalists and writers became unpeople. JFK had a similarly compliant press, which helped that shameless playboy sell himself to the public as a devoted family man.
karl von hungus #462113 June 17, 2025 10:45 am 4
i was thinking this all started with FDR thanks to mass communication being available (radio)
Lucius Sulla #462131 June 17, 2025 11:26 am 1
Re: JFK… Considering who were key perpetrators of his assassination, I don’t assume that all the stories of him being a playboy and womanizer are necessarily true, but perhaps after the fact character assassination by the key perpetrators compliant (((media)))
Hemid #462152 June 17, 2025 12:57 pm -2
The JFK media op was so successful, a large slice of present-day internet dissidence is premised on it. Our guys who think he was killed by Israel and/or the CIA are the last true believers in Camelot™, blind to who he was,whosehe was, what he did, and what he planned to do.One of a thousand examples: He tried to sabotage NASA because he was offended by the look of it, by itspersonnel, Southern Midwestern non-Catholic non-Jewish men from outside the Ivy League. “He said the moon thing!” Yeah, on TV. In real life he initiated a purge of every brave and competent man in the agency. Tom Wolfe wrote about the resistance to it. We went to the moon because Kennedy died too soon to stop us.One example.
Alzaebo #462178 June 17, 2025 3:14 pm 0
That is certainly a dissident take. What about the “JFK and Kruschev in secret talks to end the Cold War” claim? Some feel that’s another reason he got shot.That tempts me to tell a story I’ve never told.A story about two Irish sailors who served in the Pacific, Mac and Fitz.Well, Fitz was very famous, and couldn’t let his hair down much.So when he met Mac, he found a jolly fellow of like mind who didn’t ask questions and enjoyed joshing about poontang. Fitz insisted Mac be waiting for him at the airport whenever Fitz flew in.Something bad happened to Fitz. Something very bad. And bad things had already started to happen to all the little people around him- afterwards, things got very bad for some of them indeed.
Vegetius #462183 June 17, 2025 3:46 pm 8
Jared Taylor is the last person you would want to ask to learn who is really running the country.
Semi-Hemi #462180 June 17, 2025 3:23 pm 7
I had a very bad feeling that day when Bill and Hillary walked down Pennsylvania Ave waving at the idiots. I couldn’t believe the American people had elected this phony. Why couldn’t they see what me, certifiably stupid, could see?
Zulu Juliet #462126 June 17, 2025 11:12 am 7
There is no question America slid into unseriousness during the Clinton years. The end of the Cold War allowed a creep like Clinton, and a crook like Hillary to debauch the White House for eight years. Recall, too, the rest of the political class lost all seriousness: Arlen Specter: “Judge Thomas, have you ever heard of Long Dong Silver?”. Not a serious country since the 1990s.
john smyth #462360 June 18, 2025 12:44 pm 0
Snarln’ Arlen was pulling fast ones at least ever since he discovered the magic bullet back in 1964.
The Wild Geese Howard #462101 June 17, 2025 10:30 am 7
Media gaslighting intensifies asNewsweekjust posted an article that describes how many casualties the US could inflict by nuking Iranian cities. The article tone is a barely restrained sense of glee. Also, keep an eye on theNimitz, which should enter the region in 4 to 5 days. That seems like a ripe target that would immediately pull the US into war.
karl von hungus #462115 June 17, 2025 10:45 am 21
the nimitz is like the tethered goat in the original Jurassic Park
Jeffrey Zoar #462118 June 17, 2025 10:56 am 14
The Maine/Lusitania/Arizona/Maddux/PrinceofWales/Repulse of 2025. Would they really sacrifice 5,000 sailors to inflame AINO support for WW3? You can bet your sweet patootie they would!
george 1 #462172 June 17, 2025 2:47 pm 4
So true. Carriers are for beating up defenseless countries in this day and age. They are certainly not a tool for use against forces with hypersonic missiles.
john smyth #462362 June 18, 2025 12:47 pm 0
Since we are back to renaming bases . . . let’s rename a few ships too. Nimitz could become the Liberty for old times sake.
My Comment #462078 June 17, 2025 9:15 am 6
we are in an age of the clever man not the smart man as the face of the blob. The blob needs these clever players to sell agendas that go against the interests and basic desires of the American people.This truly came of age under Clinton both because of the 24/7 news cycle and by that time Jews had cemented power but it has been building up for a long time.Go back to William Randolf Hearst’s boast that he could supply the war. The FDR administration was filled with clever men who were smart about their goals which went against the goals of the American people to stay out of war.Same thing with the Johnson Administration that was very clever about starting the Vietnam War on a major scale. By that time they didn’t even need to have a real Pearl Harbor they could go back to the time of Hearst and just manufacture the Gulf of Tonkin.Things just keep getting worse.
Major Hoople #462037 June 17, 2025 7:50 am 6
Sounds like descriptions of debates in Athenian democracy. Your use of Alcibiades was pretty on point.
Krustykurmudgeon #462165 June 17, 2025 2:09 pm 5
I have a hunch and I’m wondering if you have a theory or agree with this –politics have been changed in the united states in a way that can’t just be explained by demographics. For instance Kamala Harris won 41% of the white vote and just forty years ago, Walter Mondale won 34% of the white vote.Walter Mondale was a dopey liberal yes, but he seemed like a perfectly nice guy. You can’t convince me that if the Kamala Harris of 2024 time traveled to 1984 that she would get 34% of the white vote. I feel she would get a decent amount less.
Jeffrey Zoar #462190 June 17, 2025 4:33 pm 6
I’m pretty sure that in 1984 you didn’t see protecting illegal aliens from deportation be a Holy Cause among a substantial number of whites. Propaganda works, to an extent. On some people.
ray #462056 June 17, 2025 8:44 am 5
She is like a sow in her wallow. If you cleanse her to start afresh, she will beeline back to her wallow, happy as a pig in, and set to preaching and accusing anew, while the mud and shit shear off her flanks.Amerika is what a nation looks like when She’s had the wheel for a few generations. Tribal, and the biggest tribe is women. We made it to the compound of Kurtz but the soldiers are all amazons.‘You’re like a chemist who invents a new drug and doesn’t care about the side effects’. (Jack Fate to ‘Uncle Sweetheart’)
Alzaebo #462153 June 17, 2025 12:59 pm 2
The difference is our women were empowered; they didn’t think this up on their own, being first-order thinkers. It’s like revving up a car and putting a brick on the accelerator pedal.
Hokkoda #462173 June 17, 2025 2:52 pm 4
If you’ve ever seen the South Park episode about the Underpants Gnomes, you have an excellent understanding of just how off the rails our foreign policy is. Step 1: Bomb IranStep 2: ????Step 3: World Peace Watch and learn. https://youtu.be/WpnM37A4P_8
TomA #462119 June 17, 2025 10:57 am 4
You cannot beat cleaver by being more cleaver than all the other cleaver guys and gals. The core problem is that “cleaver” persists because the political environment rewards it. Nothing will change until the environment disincentivizes cleaver to the point of extinction and replaces it with smart as the successful alternative paradigm. So how do we change the environment to accomplish this goal. Well, it’s not by promoting a cleaver mass movement or new mass psychosis. It’s one pathogen at a time.
Stephanie #462166 June 17, 2025 2:14 pm 3
The clever have gotten to the point where they think the smart really fell for their cleverness and weren’t just going along to make the best of it, to get along, or to clean up their mess.You see this in the personal too, the pathological liar who thinks she has everyone in the family and extended family fooled, when they all know she is pathological, but they just go along to keep peace in the family amap. Sooner or later though if the SHTF and there is a crisis in the family they could experience some shocking, only to them mostly, pushback. And the rest of the family will be glad for it, whether they say so or not.
Pam Hyde #462034 June 17, 2025 7:41 am 3
It has been said hundreds of times, but maybe this time “It’s over” for Trump.
TempoNick #462036 June 17, 2025 7:45 am -12
It has been said before the Trump is there to take all the slings and arrows. Trump is not stupid. This could be just another exercise in exposure. Throw it out there and let the (((people pulling the strings))) see the reaction. Of course, it could also be that they’ve got Trump on tape diddling kids and what we get to see is a lesson on what happens when your savior is even compromised.
Jeffrey Zoar #462086 June 17, 2025 9:44 am 4
They definitely have Biden on tape diddling kids. Because we’ve seen the tapes!
Tarl Cabot #462057 June 17, 2025 8:44 am 24
Trump is apparently about to stake his presidency on regime change in Iran. If he is able to achieve that without too much external chaos (no one cares about chaos inside Iran, but they should), then he can probably spin it into a victory.But if it gets messy, he’s probably done. The parade was fake and gay. His family’s money-grubbing is embarrassing. He seems to be even more thin skinned than usual. The economy remains precarious. The MAGA coalition is fracturing. If Trump isn’t careful, all he will be left with is Boomer Evangelicals.Tomorrow doesn’t belong to the Fox News demo.
The Wild Geese Howard #462064 June 17, 2025 8:55 am 8
His family’s money-grubbing is embarrassing. I’m surprised there hasn’t been an immediate legal challenge to his newly launched cellphone plan and crypto ETF. I can only think the Left must be truly ennervated at this time.
Jeffrey Zoar #462089 June 17, 2025 9:45 am 8
That’s kind of the dog that didn’t bark, isn’t it? The media and the “left” (but I repeat myself) is apoplectic about every other single thing he does.
Alzaebo #462154 June 17, 2025 1:14 pm 1
He’s a trailbreaker forging the way!That Vancecoin gonna bebangin’!
Mycale #462071 June 17, 2025 9:06 am 14
I would argue he is done. The same people telling you that all the US needs to do is hand off a bunch of bunker busters are the ones who told you that Iraq would be a clean six month operation. They’re wrong and they’re lying. So expect lots of chaos. Reminder that we are only getting the Israel side of things right now in the media, they’re locking down media coverage of the damage Iran is doing.But it’s worse than that. It is the whole kayfabe thing. As of now based on the things Trump has said, it seems like the negotiations were in bad faith and they were working with Israel to lull Iran into a false sense of security. This is totally reprehensible. Trump is out there shooting his mouth about what a dishonest broker the USA is. Whether it is true or whether he is saying that just because he got embarrassed and wants to reassert control is irrelevant. Netanyahu is happy to go along with this because he knows how bad it looks for Trump.
Horace #462138 June 17, 2025 11:58 am 8
“So expect lots of chaos.” That’s exactly why I voted for Trump for the 3rd time, and the consequent systemic delegitimization. I think things are going GREAT! Once one crosses the line in understanding that there is no reformation, or even mere survival of Europeanity, within the present system, one understands that “collapse is the cure.” We may not survive it, but if we don’t have a collapse, we aren’t going to survive anyway. I don’t give a damn if middle-aged merchants lose their IRA’s. I give a damn whether there is a future for white children.
Alzaebo #462170 June 17, 2025 2:36 pm 0
“The Mule! The Mule! The Mule!”
Mr. Invisible #462076 June 17, 2025 9:12 am 9
Given the amount of military hardware now in the region, it seems impossible for us to deny what’s about to happen. What is strange is Trump’s departure for a 5 a.m. National Security Council meeting — the story we are being fed — from Canada last night and his “evacuate Tehran” warning. Was military action imminent and Trump flew back to delay it? Likely not, and we may never know, but I’d love to know the backstory on this.
Pam Hyde #462080 June 17, 2025 9:22 am 11
Why on earth has he decided to flush his legacy down the toilet with this harebrained scheme? He has spoken about the folly of middle east wars for years.I don’t believe he is in the Epstein tapes because that would have been revealed years ago when Democrats were in full control of the FBI and government.The only thing that makes sense is that the office of the President is just window dressing and they do not control “national security” issues.
Jeffrey Zoar #462091 June 17, 2025 9:48 am 3
Yes, they even went so far as to spread stories about “pee tapes,” and attempt to use that as a basis for eventual impeachment, so it’s doubtful they would have sat on tapes of Trump and minors
Pam Hyde #462096 June 17, 2025 10:12 am 7
If there is any sex tape it is probably of Trump pleasuring Netanyahu.
Mycale #462097 June 17, 2025 10:12 am 6
This is the only explanation that made sense, he was told we are going to war with Iran and is trying to establish narrative control over the situation like he is still boss and is tryng to sell it to his base. Unfortunately for him, and us, it’s not working.
Chmi #462196 June 17, 2025 5:22 pm 0
That should be obvious to many more than it is.He isn’t deciding anything re: this issue. And he probably didn’t know of the incoming attack in advance, even.
Xman #462099 June 17, 2025 10:21 am 10
I don’t think he’s in the tapes either. I think what’s going on here is two things. One, after doing business in NYC his entire life he, thinks that part of the cost of doing business is making sure the Jews are happy. Two, he shares the 1970-1980s white, blue-collar, enlisted-man prejudices against the “ragheads” — “kill ’em all and let Allah sort ’em out.” He remembers 1979. I think Bibi and the Israel lobby are playing both these cards to manipulate him.
Alzaebo #462171 June 17, 2025 2:39 pm 0
Wow. They never forgot the whole, “bomb bomb bomb, bomb bomb Iran”thingie, did they?
Mycale #462186 June 17, 2025 4:16 pm 5
Of course they are manipulating him. In the past 24 hours or so, he has certainly seemed to enjoy swaggering around like a tough guy. Remember how DC works, he has full bipartisan support for this, it’s probably the most people have liked him in a decade, and he’s eating it up. He’s yelling at his supporters like Tucker who said this is not America First. This is bad.
george 1 #462177 June 17, 2025 3:04 pm 1
It sure does not look like they have control of foreign policy.
Alzaebo #462158 June 17, 2025 1:37 pm 5
Regime change in Iran is the last domino to fall, a typical destabilization operation. It would stymie Russia’s access to the Global South and starve China of 20% of her oil, so I’m pretty sure that’s the plan.
Alzaebo #462169 June 17, 2025 2:30 pm 2
“Pam” Hyde. LOL. If Sam transitioned, it’s so totally over!
Danny 2.0 #462184 June 17, 2025 4:03 pm 2
Well then the big question: Is AI smart or clever?
Alzaebo #462160 June 17, 2025 1:45 pm 2
Agreeing with Tarl Cabot and others that regime change is in the works. If it returns the Pahlavis, Europe would end up more integrated with the Mideast and the nascent Mediterranean Union (North Africa-Levant), but the result would be more like Andalusian Cordoba (universities) and less like Mughal India (pyramids of skulls). I’m predicting the Semites will win, sadly, since that’s what they intend to do there (reverse the Crusades, Lepanto, Vienna, and Spain) and here (Palantir theocracy, Lutnick economy). Trying to reconcile myself with this.
I.M. Brute #462161 June 17, 2025 1:51 pm 0
Plus, they outbreed us!
Alzaebo #462181 June 17, 2025 3:33 pm -1
Good gods, I’m going to miss blondes.
Zulu Juliet #462168 June 17, 2025 2:28 pm 3
If the plan is regime change, then the “clever” people are exceeding stupid. The first Pahlavi was installed by regime change. How has that worked out? The US tried regime change in South Vietnam, Iraq, Libya, Afghanistan, Haiti… How did has that work out? What ever happened to the fellows the US picked for Iraq (Chalabi) and Afghanistan (Karzai)? Now, being the USA’s hand-picked stooge to isn’t a completely bad deal. It probably remunerates pretty good, as long as you don’t have to stay in the country you were picked to rule…
Alzaebo #462195 June 17, 2025 5:17 pm 0
Well, they are consistent, I’ll give you that.I see as the Powers trying to reverse their mistake; they wanted to destabilize a competitor, but got an Islamist Lenin in his place. The faggot tyrant Mossadegh was a Soviet stooge, confiscating everybody’s assets and banning opposition a la Zelensky.Pat Kennedy fumbled that and spun it. The Shah himself was regime changed by CIA, but under the direction of that bumbling Communist, Carter (the same dip who gave away the Canal and brokered North Korea’s nuclear.)
Jeffrey Zoar #462203 June 17, 2025 6:44 pm 0
Vietnam was one thing, Haiti another thing, and the Zionists destabilizing and weakening all their neighbors is a 3rd thing. The latter seems to be going fairly well, I have to admit.
btp #462063 June 17, 2025 8:54 am 2
tl;dr: we’re gonna get nuked ’cause we are blundering about
Alzaebo #462200 June 17, 2025 5:48 pm 1
What’s this latest Trump tweet? “Unconditional surrender”? “We know where the Supreme Leader is hiding, but we’re not going to take him out (kill!), at least not for now”?!! Temponick, was that the Unconditional Surrender tweet? Whiskey said Iran tried closing the Strait in ’88, but we smoked ’em out of it.Then again, that was 1988.
GenghisKhan #462205 June 17, 2025 10:29 pm 0
What happens when politics reveals itself for it always has been. This is what we get. At least in the past the actors pretended to be thoughtful and utilizing 2nd order thinking. Like corporate hierarchies that may initially have a CEO who appears to be competent. eventually the truth is revealed and the CEO is recast in a truer form, the ugliness so unbearable the system eventually collapses. Remember folks, Nature always wins. And Nature does not entertain parasites and superparasites, only the Meek.
Jannie #462083 June 17, 2025 9:36 am -13
Whatever Clinton’s (many) flaws, his peace efforts in Northern Ireland and Bosnia were great achievements. The Oslo Accords, not so much.
TempoNick #462136 June 17, 2025 11:55 am 24
Yeah, right. Violating the sovereignty of Yugoslavia and bombing it to death was a wonderful Act of diplomacy.
Alzaebo #462174 June 17, 2025 2:54 pm 2
Jannie meant well, so I didn’t want to point out that Bosnia-Serbia was a direct line to everything that followed…that is, to today. Thing is, we can’t lay this one directly at the feet of Jews, or Blacks, or Muslims, or Chinese, or Indians (although Jews and Chinese were directly involved) – this one we lay right at the feet of the all White coupling of a midwestern city gal and a good ol’ country redneck. White people. We are so fkg gullible and shortsighted.
Jannie #462176 June 17, 2025 3:03 pm -1
There was a lot of handwringing over the inter-ethinic bloodshed in the Balkans, but nobody was willing to step in. There have been no major issued in the region since Clinton/Holbrooke intervened, apart from a brief flare-up in Kosovo in 1999. The peace has thus far held, like Northern Ireland.
Alzaebo #462198 June 17, 2025 5:31 pm -1
That’s true! It has held, and other divorces followed without bloodshed. Usually we just tear stuff up without trying to mend it.
Jannie #462175 June 17, 2025 2:59 pm 0
There was no “Yugoslavia” by that point (in name only – it had de facto broken apart). You need to read up on Holbrooke.
Alzaebo #462199 June 17, 2025 5:37 pm 0
Can’t quite agree, we were heavily involved, the main perpetrators in my thinking- but I don’t know anything about Holbrooke, so thanks.


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