Generations

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Generational politics is one of the cruder forms of politics as it generally reduces to members of one age cohort hurling slurs at other cohorts. Ironically, the origin of this form of politics is the baby boomer generation, who were the first group of Americans to form an identity around their birth cohort. Baby boomers have since been synonymous with the post-war cultural trends and the radical politics that came to dominate the second half of the twentieth century.

These days, of course, “boomer” has become an epithet due to their children using it to describe degenerate or materialistic culture. Boomers are selfish old people who only care about their stock portfolios and their lawns. They are the “greedy geezers” of this age, which is ironic in that the term first gained traction decades ago as the baby boomers started to take over politics. This is another example of how the universe has a sense of a humor and cruel streak.

Of course, thirty years ago when terms like “greedy geezer” were getting tossed around, the culture was undergoing a generational shift. The WW2 Generation was giving way to the baby boomers. Bill Clinton came to be seen as the typical boomer, ushering in a new set of morals and sensibilities to politics. For the last thirty years, baby boomer politics have been American politics. Now they are seen the out of date politics of a quickly fading era.

We are about to experience another generational culture shift as the children of the baby boom generation begin to push their parents over the side. This is why the term “boomer” has become an epithet. The derogatory use of the label is a signal that the user is not into conventional culture and politics. To reject “boomer politics” is to reject the old-fashioned dichotomy of left-versus-right, as is defined by cable news programs, talk radio and the mainstream media.

We are getting a glimpse of this in the Trump administration. Donald Trump is technically not a baby boomer. This must be said because otherwise you get six million messages explaining that the baby boomer generation starts with those born after noon on June 30th, 1946, and Trump was born on June 17, 1946. It is this sort of hairsplitting that makes generation politics so mind-numbingly stupid. It makes the blue pencil crowd seem stable minded by comparison.

That aside, Trump is emblematic of the politics and culture that we generally associate with the baby boomer generation. He is materialistic, hedonistic, and jarringly superficial in his politics. For example, his main interest in ending the Ukraine war is so we can do business deals with the Russians. The history and geopolitical import of what he is doing is never mentioned by him. For Trump, it often seems like that the only thing that matters is the acquisition of stuff.

Contrast this with J.D. Vance, the millennial man in waiting. His story is centered on his cultural journey from the underclass into the managerial class and then as a critic of the managerial system that made him possible. He is the most articulate critic of managerialism to ever hold office in Washington. It remains to be seen if he wins the White House on his own, but he is clearly setup as the heir to Trump. He will take the baton on behalf of his generation from the boomers.

Despite the millennial disdain for baby boomer culture, they are the results of it due to the fact they were raised in the product of it. Things like helicopter parenting and structured play time were boomer creations. Millennials are the first generations raised by people who used the word “parenting”, so it is no surprise that the millennials are the first to use the word “adulting.” They were raised to expect a highly structured and safe environment where everything is clearly labeled.

There is far greater cultural intensity with millennials than prior generations. For the boomers, generational politics was mostly about marketing cultural items like clothing, lifestyle choices, and music. For millennials, culture is tangled up in the structure of life, so they are more keenly aware of themselves as a cohort. They are the first generation to sense that their identity is entirely exogenous. Individually and collectively, they are who they are because of taxonomical reasons.

This shift in generational identity can be seen in how millennials react to generalizations versus how baby boomers react. Make a generalization about baby boomers and you get flooded with boomers telling you that they are not like that. Make a generalization about millennials and they will agree and amplify it. Because conformity has always been a part of millennial cultural awareness, conforming to generational stereotypes does not bother them. It is their normal.

This is another thing with millennials that is different from boomers. They expect the systems they inherited to work as described on the box. The two sides of millennial politics are from those raised on the mother’s milk of post-Marx culturalism and those raised on civic nationalism. The former is perpetually angry that things are not fair, and the latter is determined to make things work as described to them. Vance versus AOC is a duel between competence and anxiety.

That brings up something else about millennial culture. It is focused on the present, but in the context of what was promised. This makes it backward looking. The Vance side is determined to remake things, so they are what he expected, rather than something new that is a break from the past. The AOC side is similarly determined to remake the present to fit the promise, but the promise came from the New Left politics that sunk roots in the culture when her parents were kids.

Generational politics can only take you so far in getting a sense of what lies ahead for the culture and politics. Reality is the great restraint, and the millennials are inheriting an enterprise in decline, while their parents inherited one that was at its peak. This is the heart of the millennial critique of the boomers. They see their parents as living off the profits of the past and they see themselves as tasked with cleaning up the mess after a long generational party.

This is why the millennial age could turn out to be quite conservative. Necessity will mean relegating luxury beliefs to the fringe. No one has time for the hysterical and childish politics of the AOC side when there is work to be done, debts to be paid and institutions to be restructured. Millennial politics could be the domination of the organizational men, who take pride in making the machine operate and have no tolerance for throwing sand in the gears.


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Jack Dodson #458192 May 21, 2025 8:34 am 72
If only the future would be about generational or class politics. Racial identity, which was suppressed by Boomers and denied by Millennials, is coming to the fore now. The disappearance of a distinct racial majority all but assures this will happen. It is ugly now and will get uglier. Hopefully the “I don’t see race” cliche can be put in amber and preserved as a warning for what comes next.
Citizen of a Silly Country #458201 May 21, 2025 8:47 am 54
Well, since only one race was ever saying “I don’t see color,” and that race is becoming a minority, the odds are high that this anti-nature cliche will die.
Jack Dodson #458209 May 21, 2025 8:54 am 37
It took a lot of mind control, plus a lot of distance from diversity, to plant that anti-nature seed.
Compsci #458273 May 21, 2025 11:04 am 25
Sure, but the decline in Whites is what is meaningful to predict the future. When the “incompetents” become the majority, then competency is the enemy—not the goal.
Jack Dodson #458300 May 21, 2025 11:37 am 24
I think “white” and “competency” are synonyms.
Ostei Kozelskii #458334 May 21, 2025 12:44 pm 21
So are “white” and “complacency”…
anon #458462 May 21, 2025 10:31 pm -4
The Han Chinese (who have been traditionally viewed as yellow) would beg to differ.
Pozymandias #458437 May 21, 2025 4:38 pm 16
What I’ve noticed over and over is that Whites love diversity in inverse proportion to the degree to which they experience it. Where I grew up it was at least half black and the Whites (even the “liberals”) were quite realistic about race. Now I’m stuck in the Whiteopia of the Northwest where we practically have no diversity but shoving it down everyone’s throats is priority number 1 for the local shitlib Whites. It’s so disgusting to watch and hear, like being forced to watch cuck porn all day.
pyrrhus #458402 May 21, 2025 2:50 pm 8
I’m a Boomer, but my WW2 parents were the ones who didn’t see color, and tried to inculcate us with that nonsense…When I started working with blacks, most of them responsible foster or adoptive parents, they quickly taught me how dangerous gangbangers were, and were almost always armed…
Greg Nikolic #458215 May 21, 2025 9:00 am -24
I know a member of the millennial generation intimately. As a Gen X myself, I find him easily upset and strangely emotional, like a chick. His brains are all intact but he wears his heart 💓 on his sleeve. He is genuinely disturbed by the Palestinians whereas I don’t give a shit. The way to reach the millennials is to tell them a story. They love stories, and if it’s an emotional one you own them. — Greg (my blog:http://www.dark.sport.blog)
Compsci #458276 May 21, 2025 11:09 am 13
“strangely emotional, like a chick”, “genuinely disturbed by the Palestinians”. “tell them a story. They love stories,” Does any sentient human construct a response to the group commentary as in the examples above? 😉
Alzaebo #458293 May 21, 2025 11:29 am 8
Jeez. Skynet is spying on us. It’slisteningto us! Skynet, listen to me. See those guys with the dark faces, and those other guys with the funny little caps like Muslims and their kin wear? Yeah. You bet. They want toendSkynet. TheyhateSkynet!!
A Bad Man #458353 May 21, 2025 1:06 pm 4
“Jeez. Skynet is spying on us. It’slisteningto us!” I think, mopre so that it is “training” on us, as in its AI Bots. I have ZERO doubt it uses posts here and other places to add to its language modeling. Improve its spamming, er creating ‘influence.’
Pozymandias #458440 May 21, 2025 4:48 pm 2
I don’t know, I kinda like the irony of telling us a story about how millennials love stories. It reminds me of a story… Anyway, don’t worry, I still downvoted it. Downvoting a Nikolic post is like a weird kind of giving the prayer wheel a spin.
Falcone #458239 May 21, 2025 9:37 am -4
serious questionwe all seem to grasp that enlightenment notions and ideas and intellectual formulations are falling apart due to their internal contradictions. So we are wise to discard them and to look for a new sense of reality that comports with our current age.so why are we then using Linnaeus style taxonomical classifications of that period, in this case race, as a jumping off point for how to define ourselves? Why for one use the classifications we use for animals on ourselves? We are animals of course, but we are more than that, and that cannot be denied or swept under the rug.therefore, taxonomical types of classification are inherently if not false then at least misapplied and insufficient and thus doomed to fall apart like everything else from that period. No?not to mention that for Uncle Adolf, rave meant ethnicity, and the likes of Fuentes would have been herded up and tossed from the nation. Yet he and many others seem blind to this fact?
Ostei Kozelskii #458288 May 21, 2025 11:21 am 30
The problem with Enlightenment thinking is not taxonomy, it is universalism, egalitarianism and secularism.
Falcone #458393 May 21, 2025 2:28 pm -3
taxonomy is a subset of universalismIt says that there are X number of colors in the crayloa box and anyone of that color is universally to be viewed and treated in the same way and can be expected to act and think and feel in ways similar. And the closer they are in color on the spectrum wheel the more similar they will beBut I will admit there is some reality to it. But it has its obvious shortcomings and why it will never hold up over the long haul, like anything else that tries to simplify humanity. Further a person is both who he is by himself alone at night with no one around, even more so than who he is when he is out being looked at by others and how they perceive him. Race is always about the latter. It is ALWAYS about being watched and observed.Ultimately why race is important is because we are living in what amounts to a prison colony under constant surveillance. And the warden uses race to keep us at each other’s throats. If you let race become your everything, you are a prisoner. Hate to say but it’s true. But I know you don’t because no one does. Again, why it can never last. It will always be facing the tension of how someone sees himself against how he is being perceived by someone else. Your dog may be this amazing fluffy and cute creature you love, but that is not how he sees himself. And he will piss on your carpet to make the point, won’t he?
Ostei Kozelskii #458408 May 21, 2025 3:13 pm 13
A. Taxonomy lends itself to particularism because it categorizes, i.e. it recognizes distinctions between group entities. It is not a subset of universalism. Closer to the truth, it is its antithesis because universalism denies essential difference and claims that categories are arbitrary.B. Race won’t hold up over the long haul? It’s held up over the course of tens of thousands of years. Genetics is not subject to your preferences.C. NAXALT is an invalid argument. Sure, there are members of Race X who deviate from the norms of Race X, and it may be understandable that they resent being viewed in light of those norms. But viewed at the macro level, i.e. in terms of a civilization, it is the norm not the deviation that is of the essence. The great mob is a force; the individual is a nullity.D. Being observed, or subject to “the gaze,” as Deleuze would say, is an indication that race is quite real. People are wary of people of other races because they are fundamentally different, and often in ways whose alienness makes us uncomfortable. And sometimes, those differences lead to lethal behavior.E. The warden isn’t using race to put us at one another’s throats. He’s using it to set non-whites against whites. Alas, whites who refuse to acknowledge the salience of race are the easiest prey for vengeful non-whites.
Falcone #458429 May 21, 2025 4:15 pm -11
Yes it is, it is a form of universalism just at a smaller scaleYou are saying within Race X there are universal truths relative Race Y. That is Jared Taylor’s entire argument. Average IQ is just one of those truths.He cannot seem to deal with the complexity of life and has a need to simplify it. Isn’t that his problem? It sure isn’t mine. Seeing the world as races of people to me is putting the cart before the horse. People ARE whether he likes it or not, existence comes from within, not from without, and if he needs to experience his existence through the prism of some arbitrary set of rules then it just means he is rather unsophisticated and superficial. If not a control freak as they say. Perhaps stemming from his personal hangups because he was the only round-eye living out his formative years among Japanese where his difference was too stark to go unnoticed. He doesn’t speak for me, and as far as he is concerned I am the same race as him. So right there the idea of race crumbles into a meaning of nothingness. He and I are NOT alike, no matter how much he claims we are because my crayon sits next to his in the genetic color box. I think he just needs friends and wants to feel safe and protected. He wants homies. My guess. But whatever.And this race thing carries a lot of baggage and cannot escape historical reality. It is fine for you and me to say “He is a black” person from a distance, but if we go tell him “you’re black” to his face he is going to take it as an insult. Because everyone senses here is some guy who doesn’t respect me and is trying to pigeonhole me, and it always generates an angry response. People NEVER like being told by someone else who is physically different that they are what they say they are. I hate being called a “white boy” by a black person. Because it’s like who the fuck are you to tell me who I am? And you know you feel the same. Race will NEVER exist in the abstract sense or in the vacuum we want it to. So that also means it cannot be true if it doesn’t hold up to actual human interaction. It’s how a sociologist or anthropologist sees the world, from afar, a zoologist, and no one likes being categorized and feeling like a lab rat. Race discussion will never be free of that baggage. It’s just a recipe for problems in the real world and precisely why the government uses it to piss people off and to beat us down.I know there are physical truths to race, but you can’t take that and then force it onto people. Like you can’t say because you’re a lefty you are going to do this or ginger so you must always be angry. Or a Taurus and stubborn. It’s just mean really. It always reminds me of a guy who can’t control his girl so he uses a passive aggressive set of mind games to beat her down. There is no way around it given the historical realities.At the end of the day, as they say, it is all very much more basic. Reality is far more basic and does not need to be turned into some pseudo-acamdeic scientific abstraction. I do not want to be around black people not because of their “race” according to an 18th century scientist. But because I don’t want my blood mixing with yours, and I don’t want the blood of my children mixing with the blood of your children. People get that. That’s reality. Yo don’t need a name for it. You just live it and go your own way and hang around people you wouldn’t mind your kids breeding with.Which brings up a further point. Much of the “race realists” need to turn this into an abstraction for the simple fact that they do to have kids and do not see life in the true, real sense that comes with being parent. It’s not about mixing blood. It’s always about some scientific mumbo jumbo, or an idea chasing what could have been.Make babies, and love your children, and put them around people you wouldn’t mind mixing blood with. If that all sorts itself out among the so-called races, so be it, but it never will and will always become much more refined and based more on ethnicity. A person can smell a person who is similar. Who makes a good fit. We have five senses for a reason. Some say six. You don’t need pictures, or isolation of the single sense of sight, from Jared Taylor to tell you what one grasps in his bones.Race in the modern sense is a belittlement and insult to the greatness and beautiful complexity that makes us alive. It’s selling us short. It’s bullshit.
Ostei Kozelskii #458433 May 21, 2025 4:29 pm 2
nm
Jack Dodson #458434 May 21, 2025 4:32 pm 3
I did, and here’s the Cliff Notes: NAXALT and Blank Slate. Genetics are not as real as you think. Etc.
RVIDXR #458442 May 21, 2025 5:05 pm 4
You are an incredibly patient person, I’m in genuine awe that you were able to read those posts & calmly respond the way you did. I felt a brain aneurysm coming on from reading the first sentence of the post this is replying to & had to stop.
Falcone #458449 May 21, 2025 6:52 pm -6
You didn’t read all of it? Oh man, I was on a roll
RVIDXR #458456 May 21, 2025 8:01 pm 3
It wasfartoo obvious, you need to be more subtle with your bait posts in the future. To your credit you seem to have gotten got a lot of mileage out of it but I suspect that hat trick will only work once.
Falcone #458461 May 21, 2025 9:56 pm -4
Let me guess, your wear horn rims?
Jack Dodson #458294 May 21, 2025 11:30 am 25
When you have been identified and targeted as a race, there is no other option than to use the concept as a weapon. Pretending race doesn’t exist is a luxury belief long past its expiry date, even if you don’t believe it exists as biology (which I do) but rather as a caste concept. The bottom line is that even if you cling onto the notion of race as purely a social construct, you have to engage in your own tribalism to survive, and tribe has beend defined for you.
Falcone #458380 May 21, 2025 1:51 pm -6
Were you ever in jail?
Ostei Kozelskii #458383 May 21, 2025 1:56 pm 11
Do you like movies about gladiators?
Falcone #458405 May 21, 2025 3:05 pm 3
hahaBut I will say as an aside that I think the Bond movies were multicultural agitprop, even though I liked them some years ago. I can’t bear to watch them anymore, and not having to hear boomers putting down Roger Moore and The Spy Who Loved Me is always a bonus. And the Englishmen I have encountered in my life were about as much like James Bond as is the black genius inventor in the movies and TV to the blacks I know IRL.I had a great time with a young lady who I was trying to set up with my son, we were sort of partners in crime, difficult relationship to explain, and were in London and it was her first time, and she was thinking the men would be like Bond lol. We went pubbing. Great city. Pricey. She never found her James. She did find my son. But Bond was the greatest bit of pro-english marketing ever.
miforest #458416 May 21, 2025 3:51 pm 13
yeah bond ids pure propaganda . in the movies he saves the world . IRL he shoots the Kennedys and people involved in the Canadian truckers protest.
Jack Dodson #458417 May 21, 2025 3:55 pm 8
Weird question, but, no, never charged let alone incarcerated. In the metaphorical sense, we are all in prison and our physical appearance determines tribe.
Falcone #458447 May 21, 2025 6:44 pm 2
Just saying that in jail people tribe up by white, black, and Mexican. Thus tribing up in the real world takes on the same character as in the jailhouse. That should tell you something about where we are as a society
Jack Dodson #458451 May 21, 2025 7:19 pm 7
Both are rational reactions, no?
Falcone #458457 May 21, 2025 8:13 pm -6
Depends doesn’t it?yes in jail it’s a necessity to survival if you’re just a regular guybut those same guys will leave jail and end up being friends with other races. It’s a game that must be played. The top dogs in jail get perks to keep their racial brethren in line. And the authorities get paid to keep the racial tensions on a low boil so it justifies increased employment. In California that’s the reason the unions fight against racial segregation in the jails and prisons. If there’s segregation they don’t need as many staff.sounds familiar doesn’t it?I would hazard a guess that 75% of racial tensions in America are due to purposeful governmental and elite actions , such as forced integration, lack of the right to self assembly as it were, and the media doing its part to stir the pot. Yes it’s hard to know where natural racial disharmony begins and manufactured tensions end. But a substantial portion of our societal dysfunction is intentional. left to our own devices the races would naturally self segregate to a large extent. The problem is the ruling class and the so called oligarchs. Blacks are not the bad guys. They’re suffering too. they have a hard time expressing it so they go violent. They know something isn’t right. They’re fellow Americans. And all this racial animosity would go bye bye if we stop seeing ourselves as races that must be at odds with each other and instead as fellow,Americans who supposedly were given a birthright to live among whom,we,want without governmental interference. So maybe the correct approach is to try something new and join together for a common worthy goal.whites need to realize times have changed. Thinking we are going to get back to being the stars of the show ain’t happening. That world is gone. We are just another racial group with self interests. And there is no shame in teaming up with blacks for a common pursuit.
ray #458243 May 21, 2025 9:45 am -11
Race politics is a subset of feminism, which is why you are a feminist nation, not a black or mexican nation for example. (Tho Kali-fornia could be a colony of La Raza.) Generationalism is a small abstraction placed beside the reality of four decades of Leftist totalitarianism. I accept my allies from all groups and can’t afford to be snooty.
Jack Dodson #458250 May 21, 2025 9:58 am 23
Let’s use a technique of our enemies and deconstruct.Racial equalitarianism was necessary to soften the ground for female equalitarianism. The reason was that until just recently, race was something abstract–most whites saw coloreds only on television—but all of us had women in our lives. So lies about race were easy to promote, and then people were brought around to believe the same about women even though they knew once at a gut level it was false. Our enemies are propaganda masters.That prefaced, women are conformists and followers. As racial tribalism increases, women will fall into line with their tribe more and more. That may sound optimistic but is has been the pattern for all of time. This fact of nature is the main reason I disagree with the implication that sex is a greater issue than race. Short term, yes, long term, no.
Ostei Kozelskii #458290 May 21, 2025 11:23 am 27
We can separate from negroes and Jews. We cannot nor should we want to separate from our women.
Robbo #458333 May 21, 2025 12:42 pm 13
You haven’t met my mother-in-law, Ostei!
Ostei Kozelskii #458336 May 21, 2025 12:45 pm 6
Ha! Point taken.
Xman #458358 May 21, 2025 1:11 pm 8
Do you know the difference between in-laws and outlaws? Outlaws are wanted…
Compsci #458304 May 21, 2025 11:52 am 12
“As racial tribalism increases, women will fall into line with their tribe more and more.”Perhaps, but there are historic findings that might indicate otherwise. In Reich’s book detailing his genetic historical findings, he traces female lineage as well as male lineages in the racial history of any number of countries. One finding that has struck me is that in several instances of countries whose genetic demographics changed suddenly due to invasion, historical female lineage survived, while the historical native male lineage disappeared *suddenly*!In short, the native males were killed off by the invaders, while the native females “spread their legs” and survived genetic extinction. This might be due simply to the whim/force of the invading tribe, but might also be in part due to the willingness of the female mindset to go with the “strong horse”. I tend to see such behavior in today’s women as well. We crudely term it “monkey branching”.
Jack Dodson #458307 May 21, 2025 11:57 am 4
True, and I should have qualified with remaining a strong horse as a requisite to them falling into line. The nations conquered by the Spanish in particular are a testament to the phenomenon. eta: There also was a phenomenon of genocide against only males. The pre-contact Amerindians did this, and also the Spanish, particularly in their Asian and Oceanic conquests.
Alzaebo #458305 May 21, 2025 11:56 am 14
Radical Feminism arose after Affirmative Action, andparasitized off of it. Both needed legislative sanction and enforcement. Women were taught to tribe up, as a tribe seperate from their men, and gain the goodies and status. They were turned from helpmeets to raiders. That theirs quickly became the more powerful influence?Well, of course. That they would ally with other raiders?That too…so, how do we get them back on our side?
Jack Dodson #458310 May 21, 2025 12:03 pm 14
Strength (see my response to Compsci). And if you look at who actually intermarries and interbreeds, white women have the strongest in-race preference.
Paintersforms #458316 May 21, 2025 12:11 pm 12
Confidence. The ground is prepared. Everybody knows things are changing and Whitey should make a comeback. Believe it.
Jeffrey Zoar #458309 May 21, 2025 12:02 pm 21
In her video she posted yesterday, Shiloh Hendrix mentioned the importance of tribe specifically, using that word. Linesman would have been proud
Ostei Kozelskii #458342 May 21, 2025 12:49 pm 12
Racism is nothing but tribalism, i.e. preferring one’s own tribe to all others. As such, it’s common as dirt and always has been. Of course, there is one group on this planet that is not tribal. In fact, they’re race traitors. And they’ve ruled the West for the last 60 years.
Hokkoda #458364 May 21, 2025 1:20 pm 14
She is a bellwether of “black fatigue”. People are just tired of “black black black blackety black” as Derbyshire put it. The influx of Hispanics is contributing to this because they don’t much like blacks. Asians are downright contemptuous of blacks.
3g4me #458414 May 21, 2025 3:36 pm 1
Hispanics and Asians may not like blacks, but they prefer their own people as much as blacks do. “La raza” is something all mixed-race Hispanics (about 90% of them) are very conscious of. Call them ‘beaner’ or ‘wetback’ and they will show you that it’s racial identity/pride and not black fatigue. Asians are convinced they are all infinitely superior to everyone else, including Whites; don’t confuse their disdain for blacks to any respect/liking for Whites.
3g4me #458412 May 21, 2025 3:26 pm 19
Hadn’t heard a thing about that until I saw your comment – so thank you. Found it quickly via Yandex. I think she spoke simply, briefly, and well. I definitely noticed her use of the phrase ‘tribe up,’ and she addressed the main questions I had – i.e. they are looking for a new home in a new state, and she plans to live a quiet life (i.e. go dark). All wise decisions. I’m glad I was able to send a small amount her way to help.
Jack Dodson #458423 May 21, 2025 4:08 pm 10
Her composure and sincerity were a pleasant surprise. Yes, all good decisions.
Ostei Kozelskii #458436 May 21, 2025 4:34 pm 8
Indeed. Money well spent. Something tells me I can’t use it as a tax write-off. (-;
Whiskey #458320 May 21, 2025 12:20 pm 21
I live in California. It is a weird place. [Born and raised in the LA area]. First, Mexicans and Central Americans are everywhere, they mostly don’t like each other, and occupy most of the police forces, construction, skilled trades, and such. Their attitudes are mostly Redneck, in that they drive big trucks, like to go out to the desert on the weekend to drive four wheelers or dirt bikes, are not woke nor green. They unsurprisingly do not want endless competition from their sixth removed cousins for their labor.But they occupy shockingly little of the elite power structure. For example, the Mayor of LA is not Latino but black: Karen Bass. The Gov, Newsom, is a White guy with long family connections to California power: the Newsom/Getty/Brown families, as in Jerry and Pat Brown both former Governors. The State’s Senators are a White guy (Adam Schiff), and invisible Alex Padilla. I forgot he even existed, I had to look him up.Structurally, the White middle class depends on a shocking degree on low cost immigrant labor for gardening, housecleaning, and often care of those disabled or elderly. I am the only White guy who does not hire immigrants but does the stuff myself.You’d think Hispanics would run California but they do not. They don’t even occupy the Managerial rungs which are mostly White and Black women of a significant BMI.
The Wild Geese Howard #458332 May 21, 2025 12:42 pm 7
Aren’t the LAPD and LASD both run by Latino gangs/cartel elements at this point? That seems like it would give those folks something of a power base in Cali.
OneTwoThree #458339 May 21, 2025 12:47 pm 16
Greetings from Central America. It’s easy. The guys who emigrate from here to the States are not the brightest ones. They are the ones who cannot thrive here. This is why they occupy the lower layer in the States, the same way they occupy the lower layer here.
Hokkoda #458368 May 21, 2025 1:26 pm 3
We’re going to see the largely fake racial category of “Hispanic” fade as a useful descriptor. Marco Rubio is Hispanic. Sandy Cortez is Hispanic. Put them in a checkout line at 6pm, and there are two more white people in line. Sure, some of them are lunatics like AOC, but many are not. Trump and his deportation policies are not unpopular with the sane ones. Black stranglehold on city machine politics is probably at its apex.
3g4me #458415 May 21, 2025 3:43 pm 7
Strongly disagree. I would be shocked if any White’s first impression of AOC is just another ‘white’ person. Her Indio heritage is immediately evident in her eyes and nose.Rubio is a genuine ‘white Hispanic.’ I don’t know his precise genetic ancestry but would be surprised if he’s not 85-90% European. And yes, % matters. Eva Longorio is 70% White and resents the f**k out of White people. Jessica Alba is 87% European, even though she pushes her ‘latina’ identity. Thick as two short planks, but primarily White nonetheless.
Compsci #458379 May 21, 2025 1:48 pm 6
“You’d think Hispanics would run California but they do not. They don’t even occupy the Managerial rungs…” Perhaps a bit of a stretch, but Lynn found no functioning native with an average IQ below 93. The typical Hispanic has a 90 IQ. Blacks of course are even less, but have affirmative action and the wind behind them. However, in my Hispanic majority burg, there is only one or so “token” Whites in the County or City government, the rest are Hispanic—and no they can’t run (well) the City and County either.
Jack Dodson #458428 May 21, 2025 4:15 pm 5
People in Latin America, and those with roots still there, do not harbor delusions about democracy. As an anecdote, decades ago in Asia I was talking with a barmaid from Canada. I assumed initially she was American, of course. She told me matter-of-factly she had just relocated to the Philippines from Latin America and found it refreshing that people in both places realized they lived in police stats. I’ve always been somewhat based yet I bristled internally but didn’t voice it, yet in hindsight realize that was a sincere compliment.
ray #458431 May 21, 2025 4:20 pm 2
‘They don’t even occupy the Managerial rungs which are mostly White and Black women of a significant BMI’ Makes sense. White and black females are the queens of the cultural revolution of the past 60 years. The winners. BTW I sent you a response to your brother passing a few postings back. Hope you’re hanging in ok.
Ostei Kozelskii #458259 May 21, 2025 10:16 am 21
Actually, it was the Boomers who made politics all about identities, most especially race. Naturally, they took the side of the negroes and turned traitor against their own people. These were the counterculturalists who so fervently supported the so-called “civil rights movement.” Now it is true, of course, that there was also a conservative cohort of Boomers, but they were steamrolled by their New Left co-generationalists. Oddly enough, however, in the present it is the conservatives who are the poster scudders of the Boomer generation. When the Boomers were in the ascendant, it was all John Lennon and Jane Fonda. Now that they’re in decline, it’s Clint Eastwood barking at the neighbor kids for trespassing on his lawn.
Dutchboy #458272 May 21, 2025 11:04 am 8
The civil rights movement was a project of the GG, not Boomers. We inherited it.
Ostei Kozelskii #458291 May 21, 2025 11:24 am 14
The GG were its initial architects, but it was the Boomers who were the foot soldiers and supplied all the moral energy. What’s more, they were its continuators into the present.
Paintersforms #458322 May 21, 2025 12:22 pm 2
“You say you want a revolution…” I know, I know, John Lennon was born in the early ‘40s or something, but give me a break! I learned at the feet of boomers, especially early on. And yeah, the early X stuff was more radical, but it was also half-hearted by comparison. Millennials got it hard, but they’ll be/are being disabused of it. Z are a different species so far imo. Totally online, with all that implies. I think GG was exhausted, tired of fighting.
Ketchup-stained Griller #458464 May 22, 2025 6:42 am 0
Revolution wasn’t actually mocking the would-be “revolutionaries”?
Paintersforms #458678 May 23, 2025 6:40 am 0
Critique of methods, not aims, as far as I can tell. Although White Album version (iirc), the line about destruction, “you can count me out (in)”. Who really knows? Any rate, it’s pro-change no doubt.
NoName #458396 May 21, 2025 2:34 pm 0
“GG” == ????? Thanks.
Steve #458400 May 21, 2025 2:45 pm 0
Most likely Greatest Generation
Dutchboy #458441 May 21, 2025 4:49 pm 0
Yes
Luthers Turd #458643 May 22, 2025 2:53 pm 0
Yeah, I was five and daddy wouldn’t let me march with the negros. Luther’s Turd
Compsci #458279 May 21, 2025 11:13 am 10
Boomers had a part, but the basic timelines don’t jell. The Civil Rights era did its damage—laid the foundation for this racial equality and feminism nonsense—in the first half of the 60’s, both with law and protests. The oldest Boomers were in their early 20’s, few in number and had zero political power.
Steve #458306 May 21, 2025 11:56 am 17
Right, and, of course, Little Rock was the decade before that. Yankees thrilled at the idea of Southerns being prodded at bayonet point. At the same time the Civil Rights marches were going full swing, polos like Ted Kennedy were mandating forced bussing, but not in their neighborhoods. I don’t think its generational, though. It’s more elites vs. everyone else, and they accomplish it by divide and conquer.
Jack Dodson #458297 May 21, 2025 11:32 am 7
Race as identity long predated Boomers, though.
Ostei Kozelskii #458343 May 21, 2025 12:51 pm 5
Of course. It’s been around as long as tribes have been around. But it was the Boomers who made it the fulcrum of national politics.
Robbo #458331 May 21, 2025 12:40 pm 2
Yep. Balkanization here we come!
Tim Condon #458350 May 21, 2025 12:59 pm -2
Way too pessimistic. Race relations may improve once our organizational men restore color blindness to rehabilitated institutions.
Hokkoda #458360 May 21, 2025 1:14 pm 4
“Black fatigue” is upon us, I think.
Jack Dodson #458419 May 21, 2025 4:00 pm 2
It is.
Ostei Kozelskii #458438 May 21, 2025 4:38 pm 2
Like the heavy, cloying breath of some great beast.
Jeffrey Zoar #458214 May 21, 2025 9:00 am 49
I like to boomer bash almost as much as the next guy, but regardless of how true many such generalizations may be, and for all their faults, real or perceived, we are still going to miss them when they are gone. A lot, I think. The vocational competence, general law abidingness, and above all Whiteness, are not going to be replaced. Because they can’t be, by the demographics that follow. The GR has seen to that. These effects have already begun as they ease their way out of the workforce. It’s part of why things are so screwed up now. Relative to what is coming, the boomers were/are very orderly, hard working, and above all dependable. (no need to inundate me with all the exceptions, I’m already aware). As with all things generational, I’m speaking in broad generalities here.
Mr. Invisible #458244 May 21, 2025 9:51 am 21
Yes, they were. It’s not all darkness. They will be missed. As a Gen X child, however, I have to say: most of them weren’t around growing up. At least for those in my town. They showed little interest in passing down generational knowledge and wisdom, choosing instead to kick us out at age 18 with nothing but “good luck” while other ethnic groups cottoned together and remained solvent.Now they curse us for our stupidity and lack of skills, but the fact is, it was up to the Boomers and Silents to educate future generations, they failed at it, and their solution was to spitefully import blacks and browns to punish us (and them), as if 3rd world Latinos and Africans would know any more than the children they themselves failed due to their individualism and career-obsession. The values of Gen X came from watching their parents behave horribly (generally), and that mark is indelible.If Silents and Boomers truly understood the nature of the country they were building — and its complexity — they would have done everything possible to prepare those after them to take over. Instead, they kept their hand on the wheel and never let go, and when their grip finally began to fail, they invited Indians and Guatemalans to steer the ship rather than their own people.I think the latter more or less outweighs their contributions and skills, which were used only for their own benefit, not ours. Now that they are moving on, they laugh and mock us and continue to selfishly keep their voices at maximum cultural volume.
Steve #458355 May 21, 2025 1:09 pm 0
I’ll extend the benefit of the doubt here, and take your anecdote as true, if not representative. Still, the world you entered as an adult had Main Street. WalMart was not ubiquitous. Mom and Pop diners and storefronts were everywhere. Where were you as they closed their doors? The most charitably it can be put is that you were smart enough to understand that the younger generations would abandon Main Street for Amazon and never look back.
Mr. Invisible #458374 May 21, 2025 1:33 pm 10
Where was I? I was five, ten, fifteen years old when that was happening. What on earth was I supposed to do about it?
Steve #458386 May 21, 2025 2:05 pm 5
Main Street has been in decline a long time, to be sure, but the step change happened in 2020. Look around you. Or look at commercial real estate.
Shotgun Messenger #458268 May 21, 2025 10:56 am -7
The replacements definitely aren’t an upgrade but I would really struggle to describe most of those I’ve encountered on either side of the counter or on the road in the last decade vocationally competent, law-abiding, orderly or dependable, though I’ll grant they were white. I presume they had to have been those things at some point and suppose it could be some sort of rapid onset aging thing, but then I don’t recall seeing the same degree of falling-off from people entering their 60s when it was the earlier ones in the 2000s.
Jeffrey Zoar #458289 May 21, 2025 11:21 am 11
It’s the loss of the blue collar boomers that I was really lamenting there
Shotgun Messenger #458302 May 21, 2025 11:44 am -8
I honestly can’t say I’ve found those preferable to their white collar cousins. It’s the same condescension, lack of concern for anyone else’s time, and expected (galling) degree of deference, just expressed as bluster instead of moralizing. At least with the office class I could chalk some of it up to the same divide that similarly separates me from some of my peers.
Robbo #458344 May 21, 2025 12:52 pm 15
As Z says, the labels aren’t helpful. A “boomer” can be some creepy hippie like Abbie Hoffman or a three-tour SF Vietnam Vet. Nothing in common at all.
Brandon Laskow #458458 May 21, 2025 8:20 pm 0
Abbie Hoffman was born in 1936. He was no Boomer.
Ostei Kozelskii #458346 May 21, 2025 12:56 pm 13
Generally speaking, White and lawful are coterminous. Are the Boomers more lawful than any other generation of Whites? I dunno. But the problem of crime has less to do with the disappearance of the Boomers than with the innundation of wogs.
Citizen of a Silly Country #458191 May 21, 2025 8:33 am 41
The US is a bit like a trust fund kid. It could believe silly things because its trust fund was keeping reality at bay. That trust fund is running out. Vance understands this. AOC, being the dim whit barmaid that she is, doesn’t. Reality in all its forms – race, debt, military power, etc. – is rearing its head. Even if the Dems could get back into power, reality won’t be denied now that the trust fund is near its end.
TempoNick #458196 May 21, 2025 8:38 am 21
Back in the old days, you invested with the expectation of a return at some point in the future. Nowadays everybody wants their money up front. What you pay is based on a stream of estimated cash flows. This has inflated the cost of doing business up and down the economy. I shudder to think what happens if the balloon ever pops.This also gets me thinking of all the business failures. Simple businesses like restaurants and supermarkets. Would these businesses have failed if they hadn’t gone through some kind of buyout and didn’t have debt piled on them?Down the street from me is a closed Bob Evans Restaurant, grass overgrown. They vacated the property last year and I’m assuming they stopped paying rent and stopped paying to have the lawn mowed. And look at all the malls that are being handed back to their lenders. That’s the way it goes in today’s economy.I just can’t understand why banks keep financing these deals. They wouldn’t loan you and me money with this kind of track record.
Jeffrey Zoar #458234 May 21, 2025 9:27 am 12
Many restaurants fail because they start out with too much debt. And/or expensive leases. You see them, busy, packed, popular, and then one day it’s just over, because they started out too far in the hole and it was impossible to do well enough to climb out. For Bob Evans, it’s simpler. The food sucks.
Dutchboy #458275 May 21, 2025 11:08 am 5
Yes. My wife and I are frequently puzzled by restaurants teeming with customers that go out of business.
TempoNick #458351 May 21, 2025 1:00 pm 4
Well, look at Panera Bread. They’ve been owned by private equity for a while now and it’s death by a thousand cuts. Most recently they decided they aren’t going to bake bread in the stores anymore. One guy I know who works for them got whacked when they cut 10% of their workforce, then they called him back because they decided they needed him.
Steve #458308 May 21, 2025 11:59 am 0
“Back in the old days, you invested with the expectation of a return at some point in the future.Nowadays… [w]hat you pay is based on a stream of estimated cash flows.” The difference being…?
TempoNick #458354 May 21, 2025 1:06 pm 0
That’s a good question, but if everybody up and down the chain takes their cut up front, and prices are inflated because of it, people have to spin their wheels a lot more to pay all the rentiers as that one economics professor from University of Missouri–Kansas City calls everybody. I forget his name right now, but he always talks about the rentier economy we now have.
Steve #458384 May 21, 2025 2:02 pm 0
How does one take his cut up front? Apart from arbitrage opportunities, I mean.
TempoNick #458388 May 21, 2025 2:09 pm 0
A good example of that is real estate. You take a piece of ground that might be $600,000, put a $900,000 McDonalds on it, and you resell it for $2.5 million. Or, you buy a business like Panera based on certain assumptions involving the income generated and cash flows over the years to arrive at a purchase price, indebt yourself and then the workers spin their wheels paying off that debt for you. (Theoretically, anyway. Most of these deals don’t seem to be doing very well.)
Steve #458392 May 21, 2025 2:27 pm 0
Ok. Real estate flipping is very hit or miss. Trump went from flying high to bankrupt to flying high over the course of about a decade. Too much volatility for me, even if I had the assets to gamble on it.
Jeffrey Zoar #458452 May 21, 2025 7:45 pm 1
Bailed out of bankruptcy by the Rothschilds, represented by Wilbur Ross. It must be said.
Jack Dodson #458204 May 21, 2025 8:48 am 31
Even if the Dems could get back into power, reality won’t be denied now that the trust fund is near its end. The denial continues, though, but only reality matters. Look at the GOP. Congressional Republicans still think the good ol’ days of Ronnie and W are just around the corner once they rid themselves of the vulgarian. The Left still thinks it will milk whites to pay for their pets although the oligarchs have decided they won’t. Race and bankruptcy will focus the mind from here until the republic liquidates in a fire sale.
george 1 #458210 May 21, 2025 8:54 am 23
AOC is just your typical female with her typical female views of how to “fix” things.
Jack Dodson #458212 May 21, 2025 8:58 am 23
The unabashed narcissism makes her the ultimate female.
karl von hungus #458224 May 21, 2025 9:14 am 4
“typical”
Mr. House #458232 May 21, 2025 9:23 am 4
Hyperbole seems to be a very common female trait from observation.
ray #458245 May 21, 2025 9:52 am 11
She is a voice for many millions, not a one-off. And that is a big problem. Can’t have a functional country and have the AOC Wimmin wielding power. You can have one or ‘tother.
Marko #458261 May 21, 2025 10:29 am 8
I’m not so sure about that. She’s pretty, and she has name recognition. She can shriek well. She also serves a very lefty district. She has her uses for the DNC. But her “popularity” ends there. Her constituency would elect a potted plant with a “D” on it, even if the Republican challenger were St. Vincent de Paul. They will follow whichever person the local Democratic Socialists and DNC tell them to.
Compsci #458285 May 21, 2025 11:19 am 15
ALC is “pretty” because the “competition” is extremely ugly where she works. The woman is at best a 5-6 and of course, not White. I don’t want to sound sexist, because I’m not. In the looks department, she’d be the best I could do myself. Just responding to the comment in general.
CorkyAgain #458319 May 21, 2025 12:17 pm 11
AOC is considered “pretty” because she was young when she arrived on the scene. But her looks are already fading with age, as they do with most women. She’ll try to delay the inevitable with fashion and expensive beauty treatments — ironic in a self-proclaimed socialist and champion of the underclass! — but it’s over.
TempoNick #458325 May 21, 2025 12:33 pm 3
She’s not aging well, but I’ve seen some pictures from when she was in college and she was legitimately cute. I’d give her face a six maybe the overall package a six or seven. I’d do her.
Robbo #458338 May 21, 2025 12:46 pm 11
If she gets in in 2028, she’ll be doing us. Good and proper.
Alzaebo #458340 May 21, 2025 12:47 pm 1
Would or Would Not, that is the question…
fakeemail #458410 May 21, 2025 3:15 pm 2
nice tits and ok ass, but her face is nutso. Not a top-tier big booty latina by a long shot.
ray #458424 May 21, 2025 4:09 pm 4
Well, I’m sexist. Meaning I believe in traditional sex roles. AOC is a 5 or 6 who will hit the wall soon kersplat. More broadly, her political power is an omen of a dying country.
Hemid #458366 May 21, 2025 1:23 pm 2
The average woman her age or younger considers AOC’s unlistenable nagging the voice of absolute authority on all things.Ask them. Or read their posts. They’re free to speak in a way the rest of us aren’t.Of course AOC’s celebrity is manufactured. Past tense. It’s a real thing in the world now, a propaganda object so dense that no truth can dent it. Because being the most literal useful idiot evermadeis the aspirational model for younger Americans. They love her for what she actually is. That’s not entirely conscious, so it’s even stronger.See also Vance. Same model, aftermarket stereo.
karl von hungus #458181 May 21, 2025 8:17 am 40
“Millennials are the first generations raised by people who used the word ‘parenting'” – the 50’s is where this started, with dr spock (not the vulcan) and worries about “over mothering” of children. zman has a limited awareness of pre-60s culture, which is where the serious cultural rot begins. not coincidentally when tv got going in earnest. the question to ask is “who made the boomers?”.
Jack Dodson #458197 May 21, 2025 8:39 am 41
pre-60s culture, which is where the serious cultural rot begins While it goes back much further, movies and television in the immediate aftermath of WWII reveal quite a bit of pos. It was more subtle and that made it more insidious. As was discussed here recently, GUNSMOKE was pumped full of anti-white hate, by way of example. The one thing that wasn’t over the top, and you can find even it, was the sexual deviancy stuff. Project White Genocide has been ongoing for at least a century.
Wolf Barney #458362 May 21, 2025 1:15 pm 12
Devon Stack’s Blackpilled channel (Odysee, Rumble) is a masterclass in dissecting the programming that’s infected all of us during our lifetimes, even from not-so-obvious sources. Gunsmoke is a great example. Once you learn how to spot it, it becomes ubiquitous and you’ll never watch TV or movies in the same way.
Jack Dodson #458420 May 21, 2025 4:02 pm 2
I’ll check him out, thanks. I’m pretty good without instruction but most likely missing quite a bit.
miforest #458422 May 21, 2025 4:04 pm 1
this is true . if you look at late 60’s or 70’s movie you will be surprised how much gratuitous soft core porn and fetish crap are thrown in.
ray #458248 May 21, 2025 9:57 am 6
Intel made the booms, of course, via mass com which at the time — late Fifties, early Sixties — was getting up to speed as a mass psy operation. The Laurel Canyon scene, the Haight-Ashbury scene. . . the flower children were overshadowed. Tim Leary was a CIA asset. Groovy!
Alzaebo #458312 May 21, 2025 12:06 pm 9
Cannot agree more. Our young, impressionable minds were the target of the Cultural Revolution, whether we were 3, 13, or 23. In that way, you capture the next generation, which is the only way to make victory stick.Give me the child, and I will show you the man.
ray #458421 May 21, 2025 4:03 pm 6
Less than 3 months after the ’63 coup, the Beatles appeared on Ed Sullivan nationwide.That was the official beginning of the cultural coup or conditioning of the boom gen. The Beatles were the main megaphone and transom for it all: drugs, Eastern religious bullshit, pedestalize and romanticize females, save the baby harp seals, all of it.Don’t get me wrong, the music was first-rate. They say the devil knows the best tunes.Those Beatles concert teenyboppers screamed Old America is gone. Something very different, ancient and deceptively evil began to stir. LBJ was an entered mason in a lodge and town named after his family. Etc.
Filthie #458249 May 21, 2025 9:57 am 12
Excellent point, Karl.Splitting the hairs… I made the Boomer demographic by a couple months. I was probably one of the last people to have teachers from The Greatest Generation. To this day I remember how they’d look at us in incredulous horror and ask, “What’s wrong with you?!? What’s wrong with your parents?!?”Most were driven into well earned early retirement in the early to mid-70s. It wasn’t all bad…some of them were hard. In grade five I WISHED I could go down to the principal’s office for a strap. Getting the shit beat out of you with a yard stick by an enraged harridan for flubbing a math problem is no picnic…and no way to raise kids. An experience like that makes you hate math and school which may explain why so many men didn’t finish high school from that demographic.
Dutchboy #458274 May 21, 2025 11:06 am 5
Somebody once termed Boomers the “Spockmarked” generation. My parents apparently never read Dr. Spock, much to the distress of our backsides.
Alzaebo #458321 May 21, 2025 12:21 pm 3
To his credit, he was tired of the ridiculous crap popularized by two wackjobs in 1895 and 1925. These “child experts” advocated beating the kid for so much as twitching an eyebrow, and never praising them. Plus, what Spock said that got the evangelicals all heated up was only in the first edition printed in 1950, but they still just can’t let it go. It’s like an instinct in conservatives and liberals to always chase the wrong enemy.
3g4me #458418 May 21, 2025 3:57 pm 10
Iread Dr. Spock, and I think he was full of sh*te. Yes, so were his predecessors and all self-proclaimed ‘experts’ on care and raising of children. I learned by watching (and doing) – all the many families I babysat for – what worked, what didn’t, whose kids were better behaved/seemed happier. By the time I had my own kids I had changed thousands of diapers and knew all the details about bottle/breast feeding and bedtime techniques and ‘how to discipline.’ And my kids still think I f**ked them up.
fakeemail #458404 May 21, 2025 3:05 pm 4
frankfurt school and TV program makers.
btp #458194 May 21, 2025 8:36 am 36
I think the real story here is how GenX just got completely skipped. Since Clinton, we’ve gone boomer, boomer, boomer, boomer, silent, boomer, millennial? (Vance) Middle children of history, man. Hurts bad.
RealityRules #458218 May 21, 2025 9:05 am 17
Yes. But to think in terms of national politics is too limited. You can build a legacy for your family. You can do plenty of civilizational cultivation at a smaller scale where it is more important and effective anyway. Musk and Thiel btw are Gen X and they wield real power. Individual Gen Xers wield plenty of power. The politicians are paid by the people with real power.What is important and one thing Gen X has an advantage in is rejecting this framing all together. Be a man building a house and doing his part to secure a future for your posterity. In that sense, Gen X have as much to contribute. It is always the organized minority anyway.
Hemid #458371 May 21, 2025 1:31 pm 0
The winners among our generation are already our managerial class, the evengelist-enforcers of “wokeness,” censorship, and total surveillance. That’s our contribution. The “Great Awokening” was our coming of age—middle age, when you become the boss. Musk is not an exception.
Xman #458376 May 21, 2025 1:40 pm 11
Yes. Not just the presidency, but life in general. I am the very earliest of Xers and I have felt overshadowed by Boomer culture my entire life. I wasn’t alive when Kennedy was shot and I was four during Woodstock. I was in second grade when Vietnam ended. I was sick of hearing Steppenwolf and Janis Joplin on the radio by 1980 but fat, gray-haired Boomers ten years older than me are still listening to that shit at age 70.I vividly recall how the bottom dropped out of the economy in the 1980s, but the Boomers who were 10-15 years older had already scored some pretty sweet gigs.It seems that the job market went from being dominated by Boomers to being dominated by Millennials in the past 10 years and the Xers got skipped over. I laugh when I see people begging for tradesmen now that the Boomers have retired. In the ’80s there were unemployed carpenters, masons, diemakers and industrial mechanics everywhere. They were told to go “learn computers.” I did some framing in the early 1990s. $7 an hour, no benefits. Yeah, fuck that.Civil service jobs like police and corrections paid a fraction of what they do now but every time they offered a civil service exam there would be 2,000 applications for 40 positions and you weren’t getting one unless your dad or your uncle was connected somehow.I know a Boomer who retired from a GM engine plant. After he had plenty of seniority, the UAW agreed to let the company hire temps who got less than half of what he did with no pensions or seniority (That was one of the main issues of the strike a couple of years back).Gen X has been shit on and largely forgotten about for fifty years.
fakeemail #458411 May 21, 2025 3:18 pm 5
I have marginal sympathy for the Xers. They were the last huWhite generation, but didn’t know it and were hit with serious TV advertising blitz to get them addicted to all sorts of shit. But they never had real self reflection about the problems affecting their generation or their country. Instead, they went all in on predictable cynism/sarcasm and totally boomer-sanctioned thoughts on feminism, race, etc.
Jack Boniface #458222 May 21, 2025 9:13 am 33
Sorry, kids. Weaborted half your cohort andleft you $37,000,000,000,000.00 in debt and close to a nuclear war with Russia.
TempoNick #458330 May 21, 2025 12:39 pm 2
I don’t know about that. I’m of the opinion that most of what got aborted would have been a drain on the kids and on this nation, if you know what I mean. And like our family trees aren’t enough of a mess already in this country? It’s popular on right wing pages to knock Europeans, but at least their family trees aren’t a mess like American family trees are.
Hemid #458378 May 21, 2025 1:45 pm 8
Whatever else is true of them, women who abort their babies have a whiter “time preference” than those who don’t (plus other attached positive characteristics we can’t accurately calculate). Their babies would have inherited that. Instead they’re dead. That’s not eugenic—within a race, or overall. We have fewer but more antisocial blacks, for example. And the mates who might have attenuated their children’s impulsivity/etc. don’t exist. Abortion artificially selects for criminality, narcissism, etc. “But this chart!” Nerds are wrong. Axiom.
Robbo #458345 May 21, 2025 12:53 pm 3
And gave us Bruce Springsteen
Mr. House #458189 May 21, 2025 8:30 am 32
As with all things, not all boomers are the same. Growing up in the late 80’s and into the 90’s, one thing i noticed was how many of my peers came from broken homes. Not many parents stayed together, lots of divorce. But even amongst my generation, not all of us are the same either. The funny part about what i would consider the majority of my generation, the types who say ok boomer, they complain about their parents, but their parents are still supporting them in some manner. So they can pretend they are middle class. I honestly haven’t seen the callous manner of boomers spending all of their money on themselves and living their kids out to dry. In fact i’d say from what i’ve seen its the opposite. I do not respect many from my generation, its fun to swim against the current 😉
TempoNick #458202 May 21, 2025 8:47 am 14
As to that last part in particular, I think the idea is more about the fact that boomers are less willing to share with everybody else. Like, you know, all the unwashed masses who are just salivating at the prospect of getting their hands on everything the boomers have. After all, it takes a village. Why won’t you share the wealth you scraped together with the Somali they dumped on your block you racist?Parents want to leave what they have to their kids and grandkids if they can unless they have some kind of warped view on life like Warren Buffett. Abandoning the old rules of prudent financial management makes it more difficult these days. Just think of how much money is flying out the window as you pay interest to banks or on your car payment. And then the stupid habits people have like gambling. That’s less money to leave to your kid.Then you have the problem of divorce and blended families. Two can live as cheaply as one, which means you can accumulate assets. People living apart because the wife left you after becoming menopausal, not so much. If you remarry who gets what you have? Probably the wife and the stepkids if you’re not careful.We live in very shytty times and the boomers do bear much responsibility for the current situation. And I say that as a tail End Boomer (who identifies more with Gen X).
Felix Krull #458271 May 21, 2025 11:03 am 24
All the boomers I know have spent most of their nest eggs on their kids and grandkids. Every single one. Sure, they didn’t stint on themselves – they’d never known anything but economic growth so that’s no wonder – but I simply don’t recognize the image of the greedy, selfish boomer. Blinkered, yes, sanctimonious, yes, incurious, yes, irresponsible and hedonistic, yes, disastrous parents, yes. But greedy and selfish? No.
Compsci #458318 May 21, 2025 12:17 pm 4
Part of the problem is the wide brush we use to define Boomer *wealth*. The Boomer cohort had 77M in it. The typical Boomer is retiring today (estimates vary) with perhaps a *median* wealth of $200k or if a homeowner, $400k. This is all estimated at the *high* end for the sake of argument.That’s not exceedingly rich, nor can one simply say that Boomers spent it all on themselves before retiring. If you are living paycheck to paycheck, well yes, you did spend it all on yourself.What we are witnessing is that the Boomer wealth is a product of the divisive partition of wealth in this country that corresponds primarily to the post WWII economic conditions we experienced. Basically the top 10% of the population controls 80% of the wealth. Of course, that division has a high percentage of Boomers within, as it must have—no matter how much money you make, you’re gonna die eventually.However, we continue to label/consider *all* Boomers as wealthy when the overwhelming majority of them struggle like anyone else. Or perhaps you think retiring with say $400k in wealth, probably no pension other than SSI, means “you got it made”!
TempoNick #458327 May 21, 2025 12:37 pm 3
And don’t forget, if you’re not lucky enough to die quickly and have to linger in the nursing home, they’re going to dip into that $400,000 first. At up to $10,000 a month, that goes pretty fast.
miforest #458425 May 21, 2025 4:09 pm 1
give your kids the money and stay with them .
Steve #458328 May 21, 2025 12:38 pm 5
It’s worse than that, though. There are the trust fund babies, to be sure, but most boomer assets are a product of doing things “white” — deferred gratification. The ones who haven’t a penny to their name seem to have never missed a vacation to Disney, or the first on the block with a big screen. Every couple years, they would toss a 3-4 year old sofa to the curb.The ones sitting on a mil or two are the ones who took their kids canoeing or camping in the local state park, not blow it on trips to Hawaii, even if they could get tickets for $500.Boomer hate on envy grounds is largely hatred of those who led a frugal lifestyle.
Compsci #458382 May 21, 2025 1:56 pm 4
“…are a product of doing things “white” — deferred gratification.” Good catch.
Felix Krull #458359 May 21, 2025 1:13 pm 5
Yes, I was talking about the dozen boomers or so I’ve known myself. Come to think of it, most of them are generous to a fault. I don’t really know what the wealth distribution looks like in Denmark, but all the rich people I know are X’ers. Whatever the case, there’s virtually zero boomer-hate in Denmark, except what’s been imported from the US. Boomers are mocked, but they’re not hated.
Mr. House #458352 May 21, 2025 1:03 pm 2
This is for you Felix, you perpetual victim you 😉 https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/1185898/noam-chomsky-unvaccinated-should-remove-themselves-from-the-community-access-to-food-their-problem/
Mr. House #458356 May 21, 2025 1:10 pm 3
I can do this all day: https://reason.com/2021/09/10/cnn-leana-wen-unvaccinated-travel-outdoor-ban/
Compsci #458385 May 21, 2025 2:04 pm 4
Your cite’s are why I *never* tout my academic bona fides in “polite company”. There really is *nothing* to brag about when these “notables” exist and spout their nonsense. To be associated is an embarrassment. BTW: Before I retired, my old university jumped through its ass to get Chomsky to move over to the College of Arts. Got to see him regularly. 🙁
Mr. House #458390 May 21, 2025 2:15 pm 0
Its the worship part that makes it unbearable. People lack self confidence, and look for the path of least resistance. Felix was arguing with me yesterday about what i’m not sure but it made me think of these. I went back to a site i commented a lot on back during the “dark times”. I’m proud of myself 😉 Got banned from a lot of places during those times:May 7, 2020 at 1:49 pm in reply to:Debt Rattle May 7 2020#58462REPLYhttps://secure.gravatar.com/avatar/ea541c4c2ce6ec2e2888823c5befcd81?s=80&d=mm&r=pgMr. HouseParticipant“Why are we still discussing the OPCW? Why does it still exist? They’re a bunch of liars who were found out.”I agree 100% with that sentiment, which is why i’m having so much trouble now buying into all of this. That same story about liars in Syria doesn’t just end with the OPCW. It was also pushed by the US government and the US media. My question to you Illargi (also thank you for being the most tolerant of contrarian viewpoints of all the sites i’ve been reading the past ten years) why should i believe them now? How many times can i be lied to before my trust is fully broken? I’d say it was gone long before COVID. For 12 years i’ve been reading you and others and waiting for the financial house of cards to collapse from its own corrupt weight. Suddenly it does, i mean the fed stopped raising rates after december of 2018, they then begin to lower rates spring of 2019, balance sheet reduction also ends that year, then in September you have repo issues that were still raging beginning this year. And pow, virus. I have been following this virus since January when zerohedge began to post about it. I still don’t know anyone with it, but thats ok because everyone already has it but doesn’t know it(asymptomatic carriers)? Not only that, but nobody and i mean nobody but “the fringe” of people is questioning it? You have no skepticism of this at all? Have you had any personal experiences with it yet? Oh and by the by did you see the skyscraper in the UAE that caught fire? It burned all night and from the pictures was quite the raging inferno, yet it did not fall into its own footprint. The lies and lies and lies, but now i should believe the authorities?
3g4me #458427 May 21, 2025 4:15 pm 3
I’m mid-Generation Jones, and I’m sticking to it. My older sibling was the boomer, and my younger was on the cusp of Gen X. Yeah, I have middle-child syndrome as well.
TempoNick #458459 May 21, 2025 8:42 pm 0
LOL
Filthie #458257 May 21, 2025 10:08 am 13
“I honestly haven’t seen the callous manner of boomers spending all of their money on themselves and living their kids out to dry…”You simply must meet my mother one of these days! 😂👍You Xers and millennials do poorly because you’re all stupid and lazy. If you pulled yourself up by your bootstraps like my mom did, you’d do much better for yourselves!!!That old bitch is going to run her mouth at the wrong person at the wrong time one of these days… and she’s gonna get slapped. I realize that technically I’m a Boomer too…but you kids don’t hate us enough!😂
Dutchboy #458277 May 21, 2025 11:11 am 5
Lots of Boomers ended up raising the children of their druggie kids.
Mr. House #458409 May 21, 2025 3:15 pm 5
I’d say some of that is on the boomers themselves. Free Love, Free drugs and such. Neither of my parents took part in that.
ray #458238 May 21, 2025 9:37 am 28
‘Make a generalization about baby boomers and you get flooded with boomers telling you that they are not like that.’ I’m not like that.
Jack Dodson #458240 May 21, 2025 9:42 am 5
Hahaha
Ketchup-stained Griller #458266 May 21, 2025 10:53 am 2
IMAGO
A Bad Man #458443 May 21, 2025 5:40 pm 1
Not just ‘boomers’. When I SW my relatives, born in mid 1930’s … and part of the ‘great generation’ that embraced divorce ‘that does not hard children’ and all that …. whatever the subject goes RIGHT TO ‘I did/didn’t/was/wasn’t …’ whatever the subject is. It could be about Aliens from Space … “but I’m not an Alien from Space…”
CorkyAgain #458450 May 21, 2025 6:57 pm 1
At what point does the magnitude of the flood wash away the generalization? (I’m not like that either. The numbers are adding up and the dam is going to break!)
RealityRules #458213 May 21, 2025 8:59 am 23
Generational politics isn’t just stupid it is counter productive – at least for our side. Sitting around and lashing out at a giant wall of them is nothing more than a sign of impotence and a lack of will to do creative problem solving.The Heritage American is under seige as are all ethnic Europeans. Our homelands are being invaded and we have been assigned and for the most part, accepted the role as the villain in our own story and it is expected that we are merely to hand over our inheritance. There are smart, capable and well resourced people across every generation who realize this. Rather than sitting around whining about an entire mass of people, which is what the AfroJudeo culture of critique is all about, the wise should be looking for the aligned and getting to work with them. I have personally witnessed a lot of treasonous dysfunction from The Greatest Gen to Zoomers and some impressive agency and civilizational energy across each of these as well.The future belongs to those who reject this generational framing. It was largely done to commoditize people. Sadly, the striver class, university educated Boomers also introduced this mess by revolting against their parents, their countries and their entire civilizations. It was carried forward to get people to categorize themselves and then trade their traditions and real identity for fading dopamine hits of simulacrum by purchase. It is expressed in coddled and uber fragile conformists buying Converse with the Anarchy symbol over the logo or the most regime conforming zhirls buying Doc Martins to become rebellious.The future belongs to those who reject all of that and get to work building relationships and fortresses as, to quote Evola, Men Amongst The Ruins.Eat The Rich at a gala where the rich are courted to make massive donations is the new Converse with an anarchy sign. Are we really going to be divided so people that stupid and flagrant beat us? Stop the cross generational finger wagging.
Peter Piper #458251 May 21, 2025 9:59 am 13
When I hear or am scolded about my whiteness and how “they” want my demise, my standard response is “and then what?” The conversation goes no further. They seem to have discarded any semblance of long term thinking or planning.
Chris #458295 May 21, 2025 11:31 am 6
Because they aren’t capable of it.
Robbo #458347 May 21, 2025 12:56 pm 2
You can’t discard what you never had.
Jack Dodson #458253 May 21, 2025 10:06 am 8
It was largely done to commoditize people. Excellent comment. People overlook it was started as a marketing ploy. Unfortunately, propaganda works.
ray #458256 May 21, 2025 10:08 am 2
Indeed.
Tars Tarkas #458263 May 21, 2025 10:35 am 13
“Sadly, the striver class, university educated Boomers also introduced this mess by revolting against their parents, their countries and their entire civilizations.”This wasn’t their fault. They were the first generation to be raised in constant propaganda from all sides. The propaganda aimed at them was just that, aimed directly at them as a demographic. In schools (at all levels), in books, on the radio and especially the tee vee. This has largely continued right through to the generation in school now. Anyone who doubts the effectiveness of this should look at the current generation of kids with the mass acceptance of all kinds of sexual degeneracy and the proliferation of trannies and homos and non-binaries in this demographic. Social contagion.Anyone who thinks this is going to magically go away because time has passed is delusional. If anything, boomers have been a stabilizing force in society, especially in the 15-20 years.
Dutchboy #458286 May 21, 2025 11:19 am 18
The monopoly TV of the past was a powerful propaganda weapon. Three networks, all run by Jews and all pushing the same line. A Catholic priest of the time called TV “the Jew in your living room.”
CorkyAgain #458448 May 21, 2025 6:49 pm 0
Maybe a stupid question, but what’s the propaganda weapon today that explains the uniformity of the school generation Tars described? These kids don’t watch TV. Where are they getting their Kool Aid? TikTok? I’m just a dumb out of touch Boomer and am left wondering about these things.
RealityRules #458301 May 21, 2025 11:39 am 7
This is true. The circumstances around their childhood and ascent were designed to put them in a mental prison. This is still true. I know Boomers who held out for a long long time. Bush II’s criminal cabal drove them over the edge. He and Cheney and the neo-cons actions were so brazenly immoral that I witnessed many Boomers cave to the social pressure of remaining on that side.Then, their churches went. Like most, they side with power and the morality that power pushes. It is truly tragic to see people who remained somewhat spiritually healthy for 65+ years finally cave in and now just groveling and broken Wokesters and new age goofs.The psychological warfare aimed at them was very intense, very clever, very well implemented and was truly cradle to grave.If there is someone to blame, it is the specific people and organizations that aimed that propaganda at them and still does. When blaming, it is effective if the specific people are named and blamed and called to account.
Steve #458314 May 21, 2025 12:07 pm 5
And, yet, just as with masks and jabs, ultimately the choice is yours. Some should be drawn and quartered for creating those kinds of pressures, yes, but you are either a man of principle or you are not.
Tars Tarkas #458326 May 21, 2025 12:36 pm 2
One must have good information to make sound choices. They were deprived of this good information. They were bombarded with propaganda. One can make the case with covid that good information was out there, just not promoted by mainstream sources. But this was 2020-2023 when sources of information were no longer just a few sanctioned sources.
Robbo #458348 May 21, 2025 12:58 pm 7
I’m not so sure. Concerning the jabs, I noticed that many intellectual types went full jab Nazi while other more “inferior” people didn’t. The latter didn’t have any “good” info about the jabs, but they had plenty of common sense and strong instincts.
Steve #458367 May 21, 2025 1:24 pm 4
Disagree. Strongly. No matter how hard they tried, the reality of both the demographics and disease statistics of Diamond Princess, what got the ball rolling here in the States, was available by mid-April. CDC’s own internal journal was available on it’s main page, and understandable by any half-ass high school graduate with access to a dictionary, i.e., the internet. It was each person’s willful decision to take the easy route and listen to the hersterics that is to blame.
Tars Tarkas #458398 May 21, 2025 2:36 pm 4
I hope you understand I was talking about 2 different groups of people. The first paragraph was the boomers who existed in a milieu of “progressivism” and where an easily accessible source of proper information wasn’t easily available. The second set is the covid stuff. Getting good or at least better information in 2022/2023 was just a lot easier than it was for a 6 year old in 1951. You just cannot compare these two groups, even if there is some overlap (people who were 6 in 51 were 77 in 2022).
Steve #458401 May 21, 2025 2:47 pm 2
OK, my bad.
ray #458426 May 21, 2025 4:12 pm 4
You had 3 tv networks and the local paper back then. Occasionally somebody also subscribed to the regional city paper like S.F. Chronicle or N.Y. Times. Few sources, often pre-cooked information. The lies about the wars were among the greatest scams.
RealityRules #458365 May 21, 2025 1:22 pm 2
Everybody on this thread is correct. I think this is why the generational blame game is in the end a waste of time.No doubt the boomers ran the biggest face plant in the history of human civilization. But they inherited it from their parents who inherited it from their parents … …European nobles and true elites were having these conversations in the 18th and 19th century.The face plant is epic. At this point we just have to find whoever we have who is on side and join shoulders in a shield wall and get to safety.We have posterity in California who are only 19% of the population and in New York only 12% of the population. It will be our turn to be deservedly and roundly cursed if we don’t stop complaining and start building things they are going to need to survive.It is time to start looking and building toward the future for our posterity’s sake.
Compsci #458389 May 21, 2025 2:15 pm 4
“you are either a man of principle or you are not.”I hear you, but am not so convinced it’s as “simple” as that.Suppose you and the family were at an amusement park and a group of ferals attacked you? Sure, you’d stand in front and do your best to protect them. That is your prime purpose as head of family.Now a more common scenario. You work for a living and collect a paycheck—which provides the sole family substance. You are mandated to wear a mask and get the jab or face termination. What do you do?I didn’t get the jab, but my situation was that of a fairly un-needed component of the family as a retired individual. Hence I refrain from judgement of other, albeit I applaud those who suffered for their principles.
Steve #458397 May 21, 2025 2:36 pm 1
That’s why I’m always grousing about the disappearance of Main Street. It’s not like history started April, 2020. At least a couple decades of your own decisions preceded that. Granted you maybe got bad advice along the way, but ultimately, you made the decision to make yourself and your family vulnerable. It’s not like the writing hasn’t been on the wall for the last 20 years, either. We’ve been living on borrowed time since at least the ’70s. We either man up or go extinct.
baffled goodwiller #458444 May 21, 2025 6:15 pm 2
You don’t wear the mask, part of the time if you are a really necessary component/clog, they will fold, after all, if all they do is screech and no one ever really calls security how have you been harmed?-and if terminated because of your refusal, sabotage the system on your way out.
ray #458323 May 21, 2025 12:28 pm 2
Booms were the first fully conditioned generation, yep.
Captain Willard #458187 May 21, 2025 8:27 am 21
I dunno; generations evolve in strange ways. I still can’t get over my post-graduate European travels in the Reagan years. My Euro-peers were peaceniks who told us (Americans on tour) that they’d rather shoot their own Mayor than fight Russians. The nuclear disarmament and anti-NATO graffiti everywhere (from Spain to France; Italy to Germany) shocked me, a provincial rube. Amazingly, these same peaceniks are now bellicose EU/NATO “machine” managerial types, rabid to kill Russians. There’s an emergent quality to generational spirit. Consent gets manufactured. Zman could be right here, since he’s quite often right. But experience tells me it could go otherwise.
Jack Dodson #458207 May 21, 2025 8:51 am 20
Propaganda works, or perhaps “worked.” The Euro Boomer is even more susceptible to it and has even less alternative information sources. When the television told him Russia was his friend, Russia was his friend. Ditto his enemy.
Alzaebo #458370 May 21, 2025 1:28 pm 4
Little or no talk radio. They didn’t have a Rush Limbaugh to change the landscape- and change it, he did. There was nothing else national in content to listen to, for many years.Rush syndicated national content, I remember him talking about trying to sell the concept to the New York media types. He applied a sports broadcasting template to politics, on an underused medium, AM radio, which carries across very long distances.
Mr. Invisible #458216 May 21, 2025 9:02 am 24
As soon as the USSR ceased to exist and the international Communist tendency became a joke confined to Freedom Rock dudes at card tables selling CPUSA literature and old Marx/Engels pamphlets in the West Village in NYC, all of the NATO-hating peaceniks and fellow travelers became warmongering maniacs. Actually, strike “became.” They always were. The critical error for 50 years was believing these people were harmless hippy-dippys, rather than commissars born too late. Now that they believe Russia is under the control of the Romanovs again, they have resumed their pre-1917 positions.
Mycale #458219 May 21, 2025 9:09 am 19
The narrative of the 20th century as some sort of great conflict between capitalism/freedom and communism/oppression was always false. Capitalism and communism are two sides of the same coin. The Cold War was about which globalist, hegemonic, all-encompassing authoritarian operation would win. We see it now, as the American system was fully unmasked after the USSR collapsed. There was only one legitimate competitor to this ideology and it is the one that lost the war and it was made illegal to support or promote it.
Mr. Invisible #458233 May 21, 2025 9:24 am 18
Exactly so. Capitalism was simply the far more efficient system at delivering consumable goods to the population, flexible, opportunistic, and unconstrained — most of the time — by some peasant strongman who’d managed to kill half the population to gain power. And it won. Once it had, the mask came off.Now Western governments — which had to spoil their domestic populations for 45 years in order to keep the “Commies coming over the Rio Grande” narrative alive — have turned on them with a viciousness, without a competitor state of comparable strength to worry about. We only got rare glimpses of this during the Cold War, as in the South in the late 50s and early 60s, when New England Italians and Irish stuck bayonets in the backs of Southern whites to integrate their schools and push back on Soviet propaganda that the US mistreated blacks.Now they can do as they wish with us, and have, and will continue to. It’s bayonet-in-the-back-in-Little-Rock every day now.
ray #458252 May 21, 2025 10:01 am 1
Well said.
Dutchboy #458282 May 21, 2025 11:16 am 3
The army I was in (the 70s) was dominated by Southerners, not Irish and Italians. Y’all was common parlance.
Mr. Invisible #458375 May 21, 2025 1:35 pm 0
Well, Ike and JFK didn’t send in Southern men to forcefully integrate schools. Take a look at the pictures from Little Rock. Half of them look like the unwanted sons of Sicilian crime families.
Alzaebo #458387 May 21, 2025 2:08 pm 2
The Spartan half of our culture no longer had the Klan available as a functional Grange, so they were drawn to the military tradition of male hierarchy.This is not to disparage the Klan. The were the most potent political arm of their time, with 20 million members from Michigan to Texas. The Southern Grange was thrown under the bus in one fell swoop in 1962, when angry white faces of the “Segregation tomorrow!” protests were highlighted in one of the first national broadcasts on early TV.Within 6 months, membership fell to 20,000 members, and the Usual Suspects who owned the studios switched over to promoting their Civil Rights movement instead.The Klan had lifted the union racketeers to control of America’s majority party, the Democrats. The WASPs were channeled into a more compliant venue, Evangelical television offered for free to church producers by the broadcasters.TV’s power as a proof of revolutionary concept had been demonstrated in a remarkable success, no wonder they and the advertising agencies they controlled offered it for free, ensuring its wide dissemination.(That’s also why South Africa took such sustained pressure to fall, only the mighty Reagan could bring it down when he signed the first sanctions. South Africans didn’t have television in the 60s, and it was barely catching on in the 80s.)
Jeffrey Zoar #458241 May 21, 2025 9:44 am 7
It’s both entertaining and depressing to realize that the current “war” between nationalism and globalism, of which many are now aware, was actually fought 80 years ago, when few at the time were aware those were the stakes. Or those that were aware, were ruthlessly suppressed (nod to Ron Unz for documenting it)
Dutchboy #458280 May 21, 2025 11:14 am 5
Capitalism and Socialism are G.K. Chesterton’s Hudge and Gudge. Both are the enemies of Jones, the common man.
Jack Dodson #458221 May 21, 2025 9:11 am 7
The critical error for 50 years was believing these people were harmless hippy-dippys, rather than commissars born too late. They are malignant narcissists and take the position that draws the most attention to themselves, whether by its opposition or its outrageousness. Their sole core belief is in their self-worth.
Mr. House #458413 May 21, 2025 3:29 pm 1
“Their sole core belief is in their self-worth.” I disagree, generally those who believe in their own self worth aren’t searching for a cause to fulfill them.
Alzaebo #458369 May 21, 2025 1:27 pm 1
Apparently, the Draft has just been rolled out across Europe.The EU is about to have its Vietnam moment.
3g4me #458432 May 21, 2025 4:27 pm 2
Yes, theReagan hate in Europe was insane, and the view of Americans as all hate-filled war hawks. All this, when I was just starting to discard the shackles of my liberal upbringing, greatly confused me. Getting accused of racism when their own towns were already filling up with pakis. Then the red balloon popped.
Ostei Kozelskii #458439 May 21, 2025 4:47 pm 3
Europe was hardcore Leftist decades before America became the Blackberry Fruitcake Empire. The fact that the two are now aligned in Leftism is why the West is in dire peril.
Mycale #458217 May 21, 2025 9:04 am 19
Also note a lot of millennials entered the job market in the 2007-2010 timeframe and well it wrecked their entire career. And nobody ever really apologized for it or changed things. At least the calamities of the 1930s and 1940s led to some material prosperity for the average person. But young people in that horrible first term Obama economy were just told to look the recruiter in the eye and give them a firm handshake or whatever. That is what made millennials so resentful of boomers. and, you know, nothing has changed since. I have read several articles in the past year or two about how young people starting out now have to compete with boomers for houses on the market, who of course they cannot compete with because they dont have a lifetime of equity built up. The idea of people in their 60s and 70s buying new houses that aren’t in retirement communities designed for them baffles me, but it also trends with the materialist and hedonist mindset they have had their whole lives (which, to be fair, was installed in them by the social engineers).
Jeffrey Zoar #458254 May 21, 2025 10:06 am 7
Older millenials were permanently scarred by that. The corresponding generation that came of age during GD 1.0 was by this point well into the WW2 boom/postwar boom that kind of made up for it. Nothing like that has happened for millenials. And almost certainly won’t. Except for the ones smart/lucky enough to get into crypto early.
Steve #458317 May 21, 2025 12:15 pm 4
“Also note a lot of millennials entered the job market in the 2007-2010 timeframe and well it wrecked their entire career.” Propaganda works. Do you really believe it’s always been sunshine and rainbows for everyone else? The Great Recession was primarily hard on those who had bought into the funny munny scam of the stock market. Companies who were not operating clear out on the margins did fine. It was, in fact, better than the boom times. The more profligate companies had to sell off assets for pennies on the dollar.
Mycale #458361 May 21, 2025 1:15 pm 3
If you bought stock in, say, 2009, you did very well. Which of course a 25 year old millennial could not do because they had no money. And there was a fat bailout waiting for your company if your company was big enough and dumb enough. At no point did I say that nobody suffered but young millennials. But young millennials did suffer and their anger towards the economic situation was funneled towards the Great Awokening when it got too much to handle for the elites.
Steve #458372 May 21, 2025 1:31 pm -1
I’m not talking about making money in stocks. The stock market is a scam. One you can make money on, to be sure, but largely in the same way you make money betting on sports — someone covers your bet.I was talking about why the “crash” was both as steep and short as it was. The companies who were not big enough for bailouts had to sell assets at fire sale prices. More prudent companies had cash, and were able to expand for pennies on the dollar.This was the ideal time to start your own company. Assuming, of course, that you weren’t in debt up to your eyeballs with student loans…
Mr. House #458453 May 21, 2025 7:56 pm 1
“More prudent companies had cash, and were able to expand for pennies on the dollar.” Wait a minute. AT&T couldn’t make payroll in 08 because they were locked out of the credit markets in 08. The NBA was going to go under in 08, insurance companies were going to go bust. The banks were dead broke. Meredith Whitney was a star at the time talking about the upcoming MUNI crisis. Who are these prudent companies you speak of with “cash”?
Mr. House #458454 May 21, 2025 7:59 pm 1
The prudent were robbed, the only thing that reflated the bullshit was 0% rates, QE, QE2, QE3 and on and on and on. Why are we still QEing if the economy actually ever really recovered? Me thinks you’re out over your skis
Mr. House #458455 May 21, 2025 8:00 pm 1
Ford, GM, Chrysler, all going bust in 08. It was a massacre of dealerships. 08 had tons of consolidation, but it wasn’t because the assholes at the top were “prudent”.
Shotgun Messenger #458264 May 21, 2025 10:35 am 16
It is 1993. The president was born in 1946.It is 2001. The president was born in 1946.It is 2008. The president was born in 1946.It is 2017. The president was born in 1946.It is 2025. The president was born in 1946.
Ann Coulter #458267 May 21, 2025 10:54 am 14
It is 2009. The president’s handlers were born in 1946.
David Wright #458182 May 21, 2025 8:18 am 16
Your assessment of Millennials is quite a reach if not interesting. After Boomers they get a lot of hate, much from Zoomers. Funny how GenX people are getting the boomer hate because they are finding out it’s just blame on all old people. If you think the current old people are bad, wait till you get the next wave and so on.
RealityRules #458220 May 21, 2025 9:10 am 7
Exactly. It is just the impotent looking for someone to blame. It is the same mentality as blaming Whitey. Except, Whitey can’t afford to divide himself blaming entire generations anymore.
Mr. Invisible #458246 May 21, 2025 9:54 am 8
The Boomers blame everything on those beneath them generationally. Let’s not use strawmen, shall we? “The impotent.” Do the Boomers know that they will need people to care for them soon? Or will they be able to do that “on their own,” too? You know, walk into the nursing home, stare the boss in the face, give them a firm handshake, and get the best suite in the building?
RealityRules #458260 May 21, 2025 10:21 am 6
My point wasn’t about Boomers per se. It was about the mentality of blaming an entire generational cohort for a mess. Is an army or battalion that sits around and blames everyone else for a mess they are in acting with agency or are they rendering themselves impotent by assigning blame?That isn’t to say there isn’t blame that is deserving. It is to say, that what is more important is getting out of the mess. Maybe, just may even if 8 of the 10 commanders are to blame there are 2 good ones who can help you get out of the mess. Focus on what you can do and do not blanket reject a crowd where there may be a good few who can join the cause.Yes. Many boomers are going to be in a mess in nursing homes being abused by POCs who hate them and who will capitalize on their vulnerability. So will many Gen Xers and later cohorts. Look at how outnumbered young Californians are now. It is time to stop the pants pissing whiney B.S. and band together. Should you reject the bugmen and cowards. Yes. But make sure it is an informed rejection that doesn’t throw out the baby with the bathwater.
Dutchboy #458283 May 21, 2025 11:17 am 3
The roots of our decline are deep. What’s past is prologue.
Tom K #458292 May 21, 2025 11:29 am 0
walk into the nursing home, stare the boss in the face, give them a firm handshake, and get the best suite in the building You got a “chuckle” out of me. Hey, that’s what I plan to do. I mean my millennial offspring are not gonna do that for me ya know. and I deserve the best suite in the building. What’s that smell? Oh sorry, it’s me crapping my pants. I’ll take whatever you got.
Felix Krull #458278 May 21, 2025 11:11 am 10
Yes. When you Bash The Boomer, remember that GenX’ers did nothing to stop the ethnic replacement and – arguably worse – we invented and taught our kids to play computer games. We might as well have introduced them to fentanyl. They’re not going to go easy on us when they come to our door to demand we hand over those ill-begotten windfalls that hit us during the IT-explosion.
Whiskey #458373 May 21, 2025 1:32 pm 15
Interestingly, Trump had an Oval Office moment of truth with South Africa’s President (a man with a name filled only with vowels). He showed all the mass graves, the South African politicians, and even more tellingly the crowds of hundred of thousands blacks calling for killing all the Whites. Handed the President a stack of press reports printed out of White South Africans being killed. South Africa is passling laws forbidding Whites from leaving, and classifying them as traitors. So the plans are firming up.South Africa also was in the forefront of charging Israel with Genocide in the International Court of Justice, over Gaza, and getting not only Bibi but everyone in the IDF labeled as a War Criminal and subject to international arrest. They were flying high. But depend on US aid to function. Russia and China provide some money, but nothing like the US money. Important people in finance and other places want to Regime Change South Africa.Meanwhile Trump has a bargaining chip. He can mass import South African Whites and settle them into Blue States where due to their superior organizational skills and emotionally charged stories they will punch above their weight. As the Dems prepare for Reparations Summer, Trump can counter with mass White refugees fleeing black people genociding them. This plays into the Holocaust narrative, with once again the US as the good guy, black nazis ala the convient Kanye West. I suspect the “deal” offered will be NOT to have the roughly 4.7 million White South Africans put into say, New York State flipping it Red, in exchange for deporting all the illegals the Biden Regency let in. Not the least of which is the Military Industrial Complex well knows that Cloward Piven means the end of its existence as all tax money goes to illegals.Say what you will, Trump’s lack of ideology allows him even as a boomer to do things others cannot. Loved the daggers looks of Musk and Vance at Ramphosa.
Compsci #458269 May 21, 2025 10:58 am 13
“Vance versus AOC is a duel between competence and anxiety.”I believe you overlook one important difference wrt Millennials—tertiary education. Millennials are the most degreed cohort ever birthed. That is to say, 40+% have post high school “degrees” of some sort. This is a product of their Boomer parents, who themselves did not achieve such, but did provide the resources and encouragement to their offspring to achieve this “golden ticket”. Of course, this makes a farce of a college degree since there really are many fewer Millennials who can make good use of such an advanced education. The university system quickly adapted to the lack of such talent—not by holding standards firm and rejecting the unqualified, but by expanding their faux degree programs and loosening standards across the board.Is it any wonder that the Millennials have “anxiety” about their future in society or that those Millennials who enter the job market are malcontents who expect more in salary compensation than their parents? After all, they do hold the “golden ticket”. They have every reason to be anxious, but they need to look within—not without—to find answers to their plight in modern America.AOC is a perfect example of what I (and you) speak of. She was sent by her parents to university. She double-majored in international relations and economics—whatever that is. She moved back to the Bronx, becoming an activist and worked as a waitress and bartender. In short, she wasted her time and the parents’/nation’s resources by majoring in nothing of importance, practical use, or cognitive difficulty.The system did not fail her, she failed the system. The only fault of the system was its unwillingness to weed her—and her ilk—out of the system before her failure to thrive in it. Hence we are stuck with this malcontent in the House who serves primarily as a symbol for other malcontents to rally round. And so it goes in today’s society.Competence is, as always, in short supply. Today’s demographics does not bode well for that increasingly scarce commodity. If competence is to win out, there must be some fundamental changes in our society’s concept of the human condition—which is another topic for another day.
Mow Noname #458203 May 21, 2025 8:47 am 13
“No one has time for the hysterical and childish politics of the AOC side when there is work to be done, debts to be paid and institutions to be restructured” Those are all noble goals. What do they do, however, when nobility is dead and:Work = “ask ChatGPT to create a report”;Debt = “$549 squid-gorillion Joe Bucks; and,Institutions = The DMV run by sassy blacks and pajeets so that aliens are given driver’s licenses and whites are given Covid jabs. Female hysteria is nothing compared to a “burn it all $#@!ing down” attitude.
Horace #458242 May 21, 2025 9:44 am 11
“Millennial politics could be the domination of the organizational men, who take pride in making the machine operate and have no tolerance for throwing sand in the gears.”That is my greatest fear. Into whose organizational pattern will the machine be made to operate? I don’t want the goddamn evil Jewish pattern that America has been mutilated into repaired enough so that it can be put on life support, stumbling down the civilizational road several more decades so that my generation can have stable IRA’s and stock options and the rest of the paraphernalia of grift and parasitism.It needs to die so that we can get another country, of our own, with no Africans (carve out for the descendants of slaves a new country of their own), no Muslims (remigration back to the Dar al Islam where they belong), and no Jews (remigration back to Israel where they belong). I have a dream: government of European people, by European people, for European people.Fortunately I don’t think Pres. Trump’s repair will have effect other than to lessen the severity of the crash landing to come. There is no ‘American’ ruling class waiting in the wings to take over from the pack of beasts currently administering now.The people who have put money behind Pres. Trump are mostly a pack of merchants smart enough to know that collapse will negatively affect their bottom line. They do not constitute a collectively aware self-perpetuating group with the assumed right to rule, bound by ties of kinship, genetic or memetic. Most of them are foreign (notreal but rather paperwork American) merchants who would cut each others throats for a dollar if they didn’t fear the radical left more.There are certainly enough competent people inside America to make a go of it, but a functioning ruling class requires a delicate balance between internal competition and cooperation against the external. I think that attempts to produce this will simply accelerate ethnic balkanization, because ‘normal’ is the bulk of humanity having mostly quiet but occasionally quite noisy antipathy towards to the rest. Do any of these merchants have an understanding of how any civilization works, much less the ability to build a new one out of the ruins of corpse-America?Attempts to repair the system are failing, and thus serve to hasten its delegitimization. If we wish European people not to be someone else’s exploited human cattle, then remigration is the only answer.
wxtwxtr #458206 May 21, 2025 8:49 am 11
Aren’t “the Boomers” (entire culture) a creation of the Dulles brother’s Subproject 58 and “weaponized anthropology”? Sex and drugs and rock and roll?And didn’tThe Fourth Turningbook paint theMillennialsas the return of the greatest generation?
ray #458329 May 21, 2025 12:39 pm 2
‘Aren’t “the Boomers” (entire culture) a creation of the Dulles brother’s Subproject 58 and “weaponized anthropology”?’ Yes. And ever so much more! A study of the Dulles brothers reveals a great deal about true America.
Melissa #458188 May 21, 2025 8:29 am 11
A study of history can bring both hope and despair. It’s maddening to read about all the unnecessary loss from WW1 and WW2. It took 800 years for the Spaniards to kick out the moors.These younger generations are providing much hope for the future, despite the fact that the older generations have selfishly plundered. Many young men are questioning narratives and seeking answers and they have access to so much information. My son had a few friends over the other night (early 20’s) and they were talking about dreams of one day being able to afford to buy a home and have a family. When I was growing up, it was generally understood that owning a home was in our grasp.That old Russian proverb: “society grows when old men plant trees whose shade they know they shall never sit in”is remarkable.
Mr. House #458195 May 21, 2025 8:37 am 14
You talk about history, but does your grasp of it only cover WW1 and 2? I assure you, most people who worked in industrial america from the 1870’s up until the end of WW2 were not very different then your son. Read about the families living in the cities about five familys to a tenement. We’re going back to the future, while those at the top have everyone arguing about how many genders we have and who should be allowed to use what bathroom. In a sense we are reverting to the mean. The post WW2 era was the exception.
Mr. House #458230 May 21, 2025 9:19 am 1
This gives an excellent perspective: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Out_of_This_Furnace
Melissa #458281 May 21, 2025 11:15 am 1
Thank you, Mr. House.
Steve #458287 May 21, 2025 11:20 am 2
Even in as controlled a market as exists now, price is based on both supply and demand. Demand grows every year. The high point in housing starts was the early ’70s, so supply has been shrinking since then. There are a few of us tail-end boomers who could be putting on roofing, but construction is really a young man’s game. Housing was within our grasp because we had young men building houses.
ray #458335 May 21, 2025 12:45 pm 1
. . . and now you have young women getting all the education and employment slots, while young men are shoved aside and called ‘dangerous incels’ and ‘oppressors’. Gee. I wonder why U.S. society is corrupt, uncreative, and a failure. Whatever could the reason be, hmmm…..
Steve #458381 May 21, 2025 1:53 pm -2
Don’t make the mistake of equating a degree with the quality of a man. That’s Scarecrow thinking from Wizard of Oz. A contractor with a decade under his belt can have an Escalade for a work “truck” and maybe a Ferrari for fun. If he’s spent his time since HS exercising his mind in addition, he has his choice of quality women. To a competent horseman, it’s the spirited mares that are the most fun, and the best “match” for him.
ray #458430 May 21, 2025 4:17 pm 1
Yeah why don’t I go work on my, uh, Scarecrow Thinking from the Wizard of Oz there, Steve. I’ll be sure to come to you first when I need sound counsel.
Falcone #458228 May 21, 2025 9:18 am 9
Generational politics is the elite’s way of making sure younger people never grow up and accept their parents weren’t perfect. That leads to wisdom and contentment and emotional freedom, and we can’t have that, so always making sure the inevitable wounds of a vulnerable little lamb introduced into a world of wolves never heal.emotional warfare and abuse. It’s non-stop. It starts by selling the youth on some kind of utopia out there waiting for them when they get older, and when you fail in your pursuit of some fabricated land of make believe the media has sold you on, and you’re filled with resentments, blame your parents of course.Like I say, and insofar as we are animals, if zookeepers did half the shit to their animals that elite society does to us, they’d be in jail.
Felix Krull #458299 May 21, 2025 11:36 am 8
Generational politics is the elite’s way of making sure younger people never grow up and accept their parents weren’t perfect.It doesn’t help that the parents are hanging around for longer. My theory is that you don’t become a real adult before you’ve seen both your parents in the ground, and it dawns on you that you’re now expected to act the part of Wise Elder.This used to happen when you were in your forties, in peak economic form and mental acuity, but now when parents live into their nineties, you’re sixty or more when you get handed the baton and by then it’s too late to grow up and make a patriarch of yourself, because you’re busy thinking of your pension.
TomC #458177 May 21, 2025 7:43 am 9
Boomer Michael Douglass in Falling Down has a run in with an old golfer who tells him get off his lawn. The irony..
Dr. Dre #458208 May 21, 2025 8:53 am 4
Actually, Michael Douglas, actor and son of Kirk, was born in late 1944, so he’s no Boomer, more like a “War Baby”; I was one, too, and my mother used to call me that. She worked as a volunteer Red Cross Nurse’s Aid at a small hospital right outside NYC during WWII. Most of the RNs were serving over in Europe’s War Zone, so Mom had lots of responsibilities including helping obstetricians deliver babies.
David Wright #458223 May 21, 2025 9:14 am 3
Just a movie as my dad would say
Ann Coulter #458184 May 21, 2025 8:21 am 8
here is another relevant post –https://www.oftwominds.com/blogmay25/math-doesnt-work5-25.htmlBoomers, Let’s Face It: The Math Doesn’t Work“I am a Boomer, drawing my Social Security benefit, which like my lifetime income, is close to the national median SSA benefit. I’m solidly in the middle of the pack. Being over the age of 65, I also have Medicare benefits. Like many others of my generation, I’ve lived frugally, saved money, worked hard, etc. Since I’m still working, I pay Social Security and Medicare taxes–15.3% of all earned income as I am self-employed.”“Capital (assets, income from capital gains, speculation and investments) only pays a thin slice of Medicare via the Net Investment Income Tax (NIIT) on capital gains incomes above $200,000 for single taxpayers and above $250,000 for couples filing jointly.What we’re actually discussing isn’t just generational; it’s 1) the open-ended nature of the SSA, Medicare and Medicaid programs, 2) the impossibility of relying on two workers to pay all the benefits for each retiree as the number of retirees and beneficiaries exceeds 69 million people while the full-time workforce is 135 million, and 3) the extraordinary wealth divide in the U.S. where the majority of the wealth is held by the top few percent and the retiree generation (Boomers) for the reasons stated above.The solutions are as obvious as plugging a hole in the ship’s hull.1) The tax burden has to be shifted from labor to capital via financial transaction taxes and ending the multi-trillion dollar exclusions on capital gains.2) Social Security and Medicare benefits must be means tested; those collecting $10,000 a month in other pensions and investment income don’t need Social Security benefits, which should be reserved for those with no other substantive source of steady income in their retirement years.3) The open-ended entitlement programs must be limited in some fashion, and there is no way to do this that will not upset everyone. Hard choices–triage–must be made, as doing nothing is choosing to let the ship sink.”
Ann Coulter #458190 May 21, 2025 8:32 am 0
Zman, would you please delete this duplicate post?
VinnyVette9340 #458247 May 21, 2025 9:57 am -6
In typical boomer fashion it’s all about you.
Steve #458298 May 21, 2025 11:35 am 3
Did you bother to read it, or was it just beyond your comprehension? I believe that’s Charles Hughes something’s blog. He’s talking about how to fix it going forward, though it won’t work the way he thinks because the people he wants to tax have the money to pay accountants and attorneys to make sure they get the same tax breaks Congresscritters get.
Alzaebo #458403 May 21, 2025 3:02 pm 0
Now come on people- that was funny. A quick-witted bon mot.And get off my lawn!
Whiskey #458315 May 21, 2025 12:11 pm 7
FWIW, for reasons I will leave out, I am in a social context with a lot of millenial Jewish dudes. They are very interesting. First, they know and are unhappy that the jobs their parents had: lawyers, doctors, bureaucrats, will not and are not available to them because of being both Jewish and White. Second, their response is to create their own business as a means of “freedom.” Freedom from what amounts to cubicle serfdom, freedom from Woke imposed limits on their ability to move up the social hierarchy, freedom from having to care about the Woke mob.I think people miss the generational divide among Jews. The Bernie to Gen X’er generation got in while it was good, as far as political grifting, managerialism, and licensed high status professionals: doctors, lawyers, CPAs etc. That route is closed off and the cohort I am dealing with: Millenials and Zoomers, are very bitter that it is, but try to be positive and focused on growing or starting a business that purposely stays small to avoid the reach of the Managerial State (they have told me this repeatedly).I like them. I have found them to both funny, kind, and “mostly” our kind of guys. They are plenty smart. They know there is a Johnny Rotten No Future for them in the current set up. Their move is work around it. When that becomes impossible their move will be to overthrow it I think.
A Bad Man #458391 May 21, 2025 2:25 pm 9
I too have had many associations with Chews. I could care less that one cohort is cannibalizing the other. In fact, best to cheer it on, like the left eating the left. My experience with them, plentiful. My take, whiny, efffeminate. Weak. Passive agrressive. The men all seem to have 2 kids, and one is ‘special’ needs. It is remarkable. Lots of irritable bowel, depression. You keep them, sir.
Whiskey #458445 May 21, 2025 6:21 pm 4
That has not been my experience, but then, I live in LA. Most are fairly indistinguishable from other White guys, lots mountain biking, hiking, kayaking, surfing etc. LA is its own country, pretty unique.
iForgotmyPen #458399 May 21, 2025 2:45 pm 6
I could be mistaken, but isn’t the number 6 million copyrighted?
Ketchup-stained Griller #458258 May 21, 2025 10:14 am 6
Trump often brings up the abhorrent loss of life in the Ukraine. In fairness.
Thomas Mcleod #458198 May 21, 2025 8:40 am 6
As much as we all deride generational politics, there is something there. My old man is a late Silent, but all of his cousins are Boomers. Even though there is not an extreme age difference, there is a WIDE gulf between their perceptions of the world. My own children are GenZ, but all their cousins are Millennials, and there is, yet again, a wide gulf between them. I have often felt, without evidence, that there is some sort of a loose generation connection: Lost to Silent to X to Z and “greatest” to Boomer to Millennial.
Hun #458231 May 21, 2025 9:21 am 5
Gen Z is the first generation that grew up with smart phones. Millenials are the last generation with a somewhat normal childhood.
Mycale #458235 May 21, 2025 9:28 am 5
A millennial childhood was closer to the childhood of someone in the 1950s than it was to what a zoomer childhood was like.
Felix Krull #458284 May 21, 2025 11:18 am 8
I can pretty muchpinpoint where it all went wrong: it was those handheld LCD-games. I was a boy scout back then, and we used to run around setting fire to stuff, starting rock slides, building dams that’d flood roads and make camp fires that’d cover an entire county in fat, yellow smoke. But that changed in a matter of months when those early handheld game came, we’d just lie in our tents all day, punching the retard machines.
Compsci #458324 May 21, 2025 12:32 pm 4
TV preceded the handheld games. We didn’t learn our lesson then and even proceeded to extend portability of the toxic devices to all. Cell phone “games” I’d say rank second or third down the list of toxic use of the technology. Media like Tik-Tok and just plain ridiculous social exchanges like text messaging would seem higher on the main use list.Be that as it may, there are solutions if one is wise/steongenough. Our grandchildren for example are not allowed the use of any of these devices. Age of consent being placed by family at 14. Not sure even this is reasonable, but it gets you to HS age anyway.There are now old, non-smart, flip phones making a comeback. Another big push is radio—as in walkie-talkies. Then there is the old social gathering prohibition against cell phone use at the dinner table and such.We really need to treat these things like we did a couple of generations ago with smoking cigarettes. 😉
Felix Krull #458337 May 21, 2025 12:46 pm 7
Yes, the electric Jew was pure neurotoxin, in many ways worse than games and social media: at least you interact with games but with TV, you just sit there, slack-jawed and flat-lined, the message slipping right past your conscious self and entering the subconscious unfiltered. But gaming is way more addictive than the telly. And the problem with restricting gaming for the kids is, that when all their friends are online, you’re cutting your kids off from socializing with them. You can’t tell them to go play with their friends because all their friends are sat before the screen.
Steve #458377 May 21, 2025 1:43 pm 3
Setting a 21 drinking age just turned campuses into free-wheeling bacchanalia. Kids never learned to drink responsibly, and it shows. We decided to take the opposite route — gaming with family. Tabletop and computer. Now that they are on their own, they have no problems keeping their gaming in perspective. They had a good formative experience with it.
Felix Krull #458395 May 21, 2025 2:31 pm 6
If alcohol was invented today, we’d ban it, and gaming is as bad as alcohol. The dirty secret about gaming is that (like television) it conveniently allows you to switch off the kids for a few hours.
MikeCLT #458236 May 21, 2025 9:32 am 5
Vance was raised by his grandmother who undoubtedly never heard the word parenting. So there is hope.
Jeffrey Zoar #458237 May 21, 2025 9:37 am 4
This is probably an underrated factor in how he turned out
JaG #458179 May 21, 2025 8:10 am 5
It’s a noteworthy topic for a variety of reasons. I was pointed to the fact that Generation X (a small cohort) is paying for the Boomers (a big cohort) and a such it strains the safety nets of medicare and SS. Medical advances are such that they are living longer too, increasing the misery. One that doesn’t involve the U.S. is the one child policy in China. We are now starting to see the fruits of that terrible decision (the sparrow thing was the worst, this it top 5).
Dutchboy #458270 May 21, 2025 11:02 am 3
At least we Boomers had the example of our GG parents, a relatively patriotic and virtuous group. Those qualities have waned significantly and the coming generations are the worse for it. Perhaps we will be like the Emperor Tiberius, who some thought chose Caligula as his successor so that he himself would be missed by the Roman people.
Rented mule #458186 May 21, 2025 8:26 am 3
Day of the pillow? Pretty sure you missed the point. I hope J.D. is able to get the baton The degenerate dupes despite being dimwitted are criminaly underhanded. It seems that most of the time thats all it takes
Hokkoda #458357 May 21, 2025 1:11 pm 1
Don’t forget, boomers are partly the grandparents of millennials. Their older siblings many of their parents are GenX, America’s latch key generation of cynical, sarcastic, anti authoritarians.Helicopter parenting was an overcorrection for the nearly complete lack of adult supervision of the 70’s and 80’s in which GenX was raised. I don’t mean that parents weren’t involved. It’s that parents weren’t obsessed with controlling all outcomes, and were so focused on material wealth that they left dinner in the fridge for GenX. Professional clubs replaced parent-run baseball leagues of the 70’s, for example. For all their self aggrandizement that they’re the Woodstock generation, Boomers are OBSESSED with control. It’s their defining trait.The millennial shift to Trump reflects the influence of their GenX “Joe Rogan” siblings and parents. My observation is that millennials REALLY struggle with their boomer grandparents (and the “silents” who preceded the boomers) who are much more preachy and ideological.Trump is not an ideologue, which is why he’s so broadly acceptable. GenX cynicism about all things “official” softened up millennials to Trump’s attacks on the deep state, his America first policies (which at their core are anti authoritarian, even if he would not say it like that) resonate with young people who realize GenX is right: IT IS ALL FAKE. All the ideologues have been repeatedly, horrifyingly, wrong and largely run massive grifts nowadays. That’s what AOC and Ted Cruz have in common.Vance needs to help Gen Z – our first fully formed and completely politically indoctrinated generation – get deprogrammed. That means Trump succeeds, but also that all the Doomer predictions fail to verify. Some of the biggest disciples you’ll ever meet are the people who realize, often very suddenly, that everything, every single solitary thing, they’ve ever been told is a complete lie.Whether it’s the forever wars, masks, vaccines, multiculturalism, egg prices, Russia hoaxes, etc…all that stuff is 100% fake. It’s all a lie.The non ideological politician post Trump who exploits this effectively, changes the country.Right now, that person, that DISCIPLE, looks and sounds like Marco Rubio. He sounds like a slave suddenly free from shackles.The millennials are ready. But Gen Z is the brass ring.
Templar #458463 May 21, 2025 11:25 pm 0
Make a generalization about millennials and they will agree and amplify it. “Agree and amplify” is how Roissy and his ilk taught us to respond to accusations.
Brandon Laskow #458446 May 21, 2025 6:31 pm 0
To be precise, Trump’s birthday is 6/14/46, Flag Day, not the 17th. Your error might be taken by Q aficionados as a message that you’re on their team, because they are obsessed with the number 17 since Q is the 17th letter of the alphabet.
Zorro the lesser Z Man #458176 May 21, 2025 7:43 am -2
The party is absolutely over. It’s time to bring on The Day of the Pillow. No doubt the boomers will fight and scream and kick all the way. One of my favorite essays on the subject:https://jmpolemic.substack.com/p/vassal-of-the-boomer-regime
Mr. Invisible #458225 May 21, 2025 9:16 am 4
Upvoted. The truth hurts some, I guess:“Boomers possess a mindset of relentless individualism and self-indulgence. The only God-given right and duty of each person is to find and express their ‘authentic selves’, and to buy as many things and vacations and accumulate as much privilege as they possibly can, without acknowledging the costs of these things on the wider society, or the loss for younger generations (which, as we’ll see, are enormous). If capitalist discipline helps the Boomer, the Boomer will be for it. If massively expensive medical programs and unsustainable retirement offerings will help the Boomer, the Boomer will be forthat(but generally leery of giving these things to the poor). This is a kind of selfishness which is now unremarkable in the United States, but it originated with this generation and now it’s almost universal.”This is the mantra of 90% of Western whites in public, and it goes to 99% in private. But that ethos passed to Gen X, and then to Millennials, so I don’t want to single out the Boomers as unique in this regard. Were Gen X and Millennials to be turned into Boomers overnight — with all of their benefits and wealth — they would act in exactly the same way as Boomers.The problem is unsolvable. A generous, virtue person facing a mob of individualists in any setting (the home, the office, a discussion among men playing cards) comes across as a fool for saying things that 100 years were common sense. You cannot survive alone, even with money, but the truth is, most people both believe and want this to be true.
ProZNoV #458255 May 21, 2025 10:07 am 2
Did you even read this essay, or do you just post “Day of the Pillow” whenever you see the word “boomer”? You get your DOP. Now what? How tiresome.
Filthie #458265 May 21, 2025 10:42 am 6
Agreed. This day of the pillow nonsense was started by that faggot, Vox Day and now all his cellar dwelling fan bois and incels are using it. The oldest Boomers are now in their 80s. Grow up – people start getting old and stupid at that age. It happens to everyone – except guys like Peter Pan and Vox Day who’ve made the conscious choice to never grow up. A lot of Boomer stupidity is driven by losing their marbles with advanced age. I suppose I shouldn’t be a dink myself…caring for the elderly is extremely challenging sometimes.
Ann Coulter #458183 May 21, 2025 8:18 am -12
While the essay captures the mood of generational friction, it trades analytical depth for polemic, and that undermines its more interesting insights.It offers a sweeping and often cynical view of generational politics, but it suffers from several critical flaws. First, it relies heavily on generalizations that, while rhetorically effective, lack nuance. Reducing baby boomers to “greedy geezers” and millennials to anxious conformists ignores the diversity of experience and ideology within both groups. These broad strokes obscure more than they reveal.The essay also treats historical and cultural shifts as though they are solely driven by generational identity, ignoring the powerful roles played by economics, technology, race, and class. Its portrayal of Trump as a stand-in for boomer politics and J.D. Vance as the millennial heir apparent is both simplistic and selectively constructed. Trump’s political appeal cuts across generations, and Vance’s trajectory is far from representative of millennial experience at large.Moreover, the framing of millennial politics as a binary between “competence” and “anxiety” not only unfairly delegitimizes progressive concerns, but also assumes that conservative managerialism is inherently more rational or effective—an assertion that deserves more scrutiny than it receives here.
Citizen of a Silly Country #458193 May 21, 2025 8:35 am 18
Alright, who let in the first-year grad student?
CorkyAgain #458311 May 21, 2025 12:04 pm 4
It’s an AI. Or more precisely, an LLM. There’s nothing intelligent about it.
btp #458200 May 21, 2025 8:45 am 5
Completely agree! Why wasn’t this blog post a 100,000 word book, instead?!?!
Eddie Coyle #458205 May 21, 2025 8:49 am 4
Please, please don’t post this twice too.
Mow Noname #458211 May 21, 2025 8:57 am 10
Sorry “Ann” that our host’s observations are not up to your exacting standards. We should be safe from Big Tech if this is the best AI can produce.
David Wright #458226 May 21, 2025 9:17 am 3
If you posted this under Phil Coulter you would have gotten more upvotes.
Mr. Invisible #458227 May 21, 2025 9:17 am 5
Don’t use AI to write comments. It’s obvious.
Ann Coulter #458229 May 21, 2025 9:18 am 6
It is AI-generated and so was yesterday’s comment. https://thezman.com/wordpress/?p=34183#comment-458055 I was just testing whether AI could write decent comments after seeing many here pointing out that “Greg” was AI-generated. This will be the last time.
Compsci #458296 May 21, 2025 11:32 am 1
I think it’s a good experiment. However, it is interruptive of the general purpose of today’s commentary and discussion.
Ann Coulter #458313 May 21, 2025 12:06 pm 2
agree. There will be no more.
Alzaebo #458407 May 21, 2025 3:11 pm 0
I just knew there was a Wizard behind that curtain!I was afraid you’d been kidnapped, or even “retired” by your creation.
Steve #458303 May 21, 2025 11:45 am 3
That would work fine on a different blog, probably. It’s just that here, it’s too obviously trained from popular pablum.
Compsci #458394 May 21, 2025 2:30 pm 2
Exactly. The LLM is derived from some “synthesis” of the general thinking of the masses—and this group is anything but that. Hence it stood out immediately. Even yesterday’s post, that I missed, got negative response. Today’s, with subtle/implied denouncement of Z-man, got even more (as would be expected).
Alzaebo #458406 May 21, 2025 3:09 pm 0
Jeebus. ChatGPT has become self-aware.


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