Foreign Policy Realism

One of the interesting things about the shift in foreign policy initiated by the Trump administration is that it is a break from what has been policy for a century. This sudden lurch into realism is a departure from Wilsonian democracy. Trump wants to center policy on the material interests of the country. Up until now, policy was centered around moral claims about how the world ought to be ordered.

Through the Cold War it was assumed that pragmatism was the rule because of the threat of nuclear annihilation. The better way to view it is that Wilsonian democracy was on a leash for forty years. Once the Cold War ended, it was like a hyperactive dog that got under the fence. The last thirty years has been an explosion of Wilsonian democracy playing catchup for lost time.

Even during the Cold War, American policy makers and politicians had a fondness for moralizing about the world. There were endless debates over the morality of dealing with dictators who happened to be anti-Soviet. This was finally resolved in the 1980’s with the distinction between authoritarian and totalitarian. The former was a temporary compromise, while the later was a forever enemy.

Once totalitarianism ended, then it was a race to go around the world addressing the temporary tolerance for governments not up to American standards. Now it seems this has run out of road and necessity is once again forcing a return of realism in the foreign policy realm. That is the show this week. It is a general primer on realism versus the idealism that is now being abandoned.


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bob sykes #446943 March 7, 2025 8:00 am 35
Gilbert Doctorow, re criticism of Donald Trump’s first month in office:“That type of criticism and kind of ad hominem argument is not acceptable. It is a polite form of slander. Donald Trump is often seen by many, many people in the States, and abroad, as a buffoon, a superficial person, someone who really isn’t capable of serious politics. He’s a businessman. He’s looking for his personal interest in this or that deal.This is nonsense. In the last three weeks, we have seen Trump perform as one of the most skilled geopolitical actors on the face of the earth. He has been choreographing, or his people have choreographed for him the appearances of his most important and most capable assistants, like Rubio, like Witkoff, Hegseth.”A New World Order is being born, and Trump is the midwife.
Mycale #446945 March 7, 2025 8:32 am 39
It looks like the media is already making up the poll numbers to try to claim he is “underwater” and “slipping.” None of the articles that talk about this explain how his approval ratings are tanking even though Americans support DOGE, support the way he treated the surly dwarf, loved his SOTU speech, support his border and immigration actions, etc. The media is trying to tell us that Americans support what he is doing and rate his presidency negatively. How stupid do you have to be to believe this?
Geoff #446979 March 7, 2025 11:27 am 24
I think it’s psychosis much more than stupidity, genes that could result in that level of stupidity would almost certainly be lethal in gestation. On that Memeorandum site, they have an article from the NYT “Trump’s Policies Have Shaken a Once-Solid Economic Outlook”.The kooks still think they can sell the idea that Bidenomics was working great, 6 months after Trump gets put in largely as the result of Bidenomics. True detachment from reality
Dutchboy #447071 March 8, 2025 12:20 am 3
True but Trump’s ultimate success will depend on economics more than any foreign policy triumphs. By success I mean a shifting of the GOP to Trump’s outlook and a successor who will continue his approach. It is always the economy that voters pay most attention to. What is going on with the economy now will not count much. What is going on three years from now will.
Ostei Kozelskii #446981 March 7, 2025 11:42 am 27
Big Media is shameless. The more they’re caught lying, the more they lie. They just can’t help themselves.
Jeffrey Zoar #447009 March 7, 2025 1:04 pm 8
The good news is we have seen their zenith. Every day they are less influential
The Infant Phenomenon #447028 March 7, 2025 2:21 pm 9
“They just can’t help themselves.” It’s like the old cautionary tale of the frog and the scorpion. The media talking heads are liars by their very nature. So you are absolutely right: They can’t help it.
ProZNoV #447039 March 7, 2025 3:08 pm 2
“Measles outbreak! Trump’s fault!!” Ironically the vast majority of non-vaccinated kids are from ultra sht-lib parents who took their medical advice from former playboy centerfold Jenny McCarthy. Big Media is a joke.
Dutchboy #447072 March 8, 2025 12:23 am 0
Actually, the Texas outbreak is among Mennonites, a relatively poor group.
NoName #447060 March 7, 2025 6:51 pm 3
Ostei Kozelskii:“Big Media is shameless. The more they’re caught lying, the more they lie. They just can’t help themselves.”===============Mar 3, 2025Flu activity continues to decline in US, latest CDC data showsFor the second consecutive week, flu activity in the U.S. has decreased.https://freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/4302848/posts===============Mar 7, 2025In a chilling blow to religious freedom, Amish children in New York are now being forced to receive vaccinations against their families’ deeply held beliefs—under threat of massive fines and exclusion from their own private schools.https://freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/4302837/posts===============And peeps wonder why I’m terrified of children entering Pediatricians’ Offices.
Compsci #446984 March 7, 2025 11:55 am 13
When the truth does not serve your purpose, lie. MSM 101. There are plenty of people who no longer know the difference, but do prefer a sweet lie to a harsh truth.And that’s not even a slight solely against the hard Left. It is a human insight. Many in the “Right” column are also guilty. The truth is overwhelmingly that— whereas Trump shows “great” promise in his first days in office—his ultimate accomplishments will/must be judged in a longer timeframe than a couple of months. Hard days lie ahead. Human nature dictates that those who are now his die hard supporters may shortly be his die hard detractors.I remember the last “great” president to don the mantle in hard times, Reagan. The country’s economy was in great peril vis a vis a decade of profligate spending and the ensuing inflation (stagflation to boot). Indeed, in his first 6 months, Reagan tanked the economy and inflation had declined only to 10% a year after he took office. (My first home loan had a 13% interest rate during that time.) It was not until 1983 when the inflation rate returned to 3+%—and of course, we all remember Reagan’s stunning re-election victory on a campaign simply themed, “It’s morning in America again”. He needed to say nothing other.Time will tell, but we are no longer a people who in general have a “high time preference”, but rather demographic change has produced a population with generally a “short time preference”. A condition of human behavior antithetical to Western economic growth and success.Demographics, all is demographics…
LineInTheSand #446999 March 7, 2025 12:43 pm 29
Many white people, certainly not all, are a disadvantage because we instinctively dislike lying and it’s hard for us to imagine that others would lie so easily without shame. We’re forever being surprised. Our love of truth is probably the reason that we developed science but it puts us at a serious disadvantage in a world of shameless liars.
Compsci #447050 March 7, 2025 3:56 pm 5
Yes, definitely so. Which is the reason that I continue to support Trump. He is so contradictory to my internal values set—which have gotten me nowhere—that I’m second guessing them everyday. I voted the old fashioned, White way, all my life. Let’s see what a “valueless” White authoritarian can do. Can it be worse? Doubtful, only quicker—and my days are numbered.
The Infant Phenomenon #447026 March 7, 2025 2:18 pm 1
Right you are, of course, but there is no lack of stupidity. Remember Covid? And that’s just one recent example. As they say, “You can’t fix stupid.”
BigJimSportCamper #446951 March 7, 2025 9:14 am 19
“…his most important and most capable assistants, like Rubio, like Witkoff, Hegseth.”Zionist, Jewish Zionist, Zionist. A New World Order, alright.
nooneimportant #446952 March 7, 2025 9:29 am 5
Do-oh-oh-unnnt for-or-or-ge-ta-ta-ta our-ur-ur Sec-ec-ec-rit-it-itary of-uv-uv-uv Hell-ul-ulth: Anti-Semitism – like racism – is a spiritual and moral malady that sickens societies and kills people with lethalities comparable to history’s most deadly plagues,” said HHS Secretary Robert F. Kennedy, Jr. “In recent years, the censorship and false narratives of woke cancel culture have transformed our great universities into greenhouses for this deadly and virulent pestilence. Making America healthy means building communities of trust and mutual respect, based on speech freedom and open debate. Make America healthy (and love Jews) again!
BigJimSportCamper #446967 March 7, 2025 10:26 am 9
Yes, he belongs on that list. Also Bondi. Quite a few others too. Sigh.
Dutchboy #447073 March 8, 2025 12:24 am 4
Our entire political class (except Thomas Massie)!
Compsci #446988 March 7, 2025 12:02 pm 25
The enemy of your enemy is not always your friend—yeah, a Jew said that recently. I rarely comment in this area, but when I see protests in the streets where the main contingent of the protestors are “Islamic”, I say a pox on both their houses. We’d don’t need either of them *and* their politics here.
Citizen of a Silly Country #446953 March 7, 2025 9:31 am 20
For now, we have to accept that MIGA isn’t going away. The question is whether we can move forward on other fronts. We can circle back to Israel later.
TempoNick #446960 March 7, 2025 10:10 am 23
But look how far we’ve come. The voices are getting louder and more frequent. We’re tired of that little postage stamp country. All I ask for is not to have to hear about that stupid little country numerous times a day every single day of my life. Let’s have a week of Israel free media. Then, like alcoholics, we can do the one day at a time thing. Maybe 2 weeks without hearing about them, then, a month, 6 months … And maybe one day we can forget about them completely.
Citizen of a Silly Country #446975 March 7, 2025 10:59 am 24
The ability to talk about the Israeli lobby is remarkable and, I hope, be the first step in a long fight to get some balance. Jews won’t ever quit, but we can contain them. This is a start.
Bloated Boomer #447062 March 7, 2025 7:09 pm 1
You’re gonna sell your soul to the Devil and then think you can outwit him on some legal technicalities.Or are you going to try appealing to his better nature?
BigJimSportCamper #446968 March 7, 2025 10:31 am 9
I wish I could share your optimism, truly. I just can’t. Been watching this for too long.
Citizen of a Silly Country #446974 March 7, 2025 10:58 am 26
I’m not optimistic. I’m assuming Jews will hold a grip over Congress for a long time to come. I don’t like it. In fact, I hate it. But we’re moving forward on other fronts, so I’ll enjoy those victories.That said, the country at least now talks about the Israeli lobby and its power. That’s a huge change. Acknowledging the problem is the first step in solving it.There’s also the issue that Jews seem to have figured – finally – that importing a ton of brown people who hate them isn’t exactly “good for the Jews” so Jews aren’t standing in our way as much as the past. They still think we’re the real enemy, but they don’t trust their mercenaries anymore.
Wiffle #447086 March 8, 2025 8:51 am 0
I would say that there’s starting to be a shift in what constitutes “good for Jews” and that’s allowing some clean up.
The Infant Phenomenon #447029 March 7, 2025 2:37 pm 7
Col. Macgregor is reporting that Egypt has positioned tanks as near as they can get to Israel. Doesn’t disclose the number of tanks but says point blank that the rulers of the Arab world (and Turkey) are facing a real problem b/c they know that they are likely to be removed–unpleasantly–by their own populations, who are furious at their non-response to the genocide in Gaza unless they get off their fannies and take decisive action SOON. And now Netanyahu has cut off ALL humanitarian supplies AND all electricity in Gaza, so a potentially disastrous situation for Israel is developing rapidly. Col. Mac also says that the Arab states are to hold a summit meeting later this month on the subject of Israel and Gaza, and he says that he doesn’t see how a general war–including Iran as a combatant–can be avoided.If he is right, will Trump and Rubio and the treacherous liar Hegseth drag us into it? And if they do, will Americans obey and go off to another mid-east war–this time a *real* one with potentially catastrophic consequences? Did the people vote for another war? Did Trump promise no more war?
Citizen of a Silly Country #447044 March 7, 2025 3:32 pm 8
I’m no fan of Israel and truly hate that they and their American cousins control our Middle East policy, but I’d be shocked if the Arab states do anything serious. Their leaders have no love for the Palestinians.
Compsci #447052 March 7, 2025 4:12 pm 7
The animosity of the Arab States toward the Palestinians cannot be overestimated. No place the Palestinians have resettled (in Arab lands) have they not made themselves unwelcome and proved subversive. Such is their history. The build up of forces on the border with Israel is more likely a trip wire should Palestinians be driven out across the Egyptian border. That indeed would be worth a fight. Palestinians are a cancer to the Arab States.
Dutchboy #447074 March 8, 2025 12:26 am 5
A war with Iran will end the Trump counterrevolution.
Steve #447019 March 7, 2025 1:47 pm 12
Trump’s pro-Zionist is going to be the massive black mark on his record, no matter what else he achieves. However, it shouldn’t surprise. He only got back in because of the backing of the Zionist lobby.
Citizen of a Silly Country #447047 March 7, 2025 3:39 pm 11
I made the call a few months after Oct. 7 and the reaction of the Dems and their brown horde that Trump’s odds of winning just went way up. As much as Jews feel as though they belong on Team Victim, they realized that they couldn’t trust the brown horde on Israel and Gaza, so they had to get the Republicans – who are disgustingly pro-Israel – back into power.
Steve #447055 March 7, 2025 4:30 pm 0
Keep in mind how that came out. When Trump floated the plan for turning Gaza into Atlantic City, Bibi had no choice but to say he was in support of it. And was summarily dressed down with essentially, “I don’t give a damn what you think. You are part of the problem. No go back to the kid’s table, sit down and shut up!”The Arab League said they would fund the rebuilding, but Gaza must not become an American Territory. Compare to the gambit he tried is first term, saying he would get Mexico to pay for the wall.I swear, anti-Zionists can be even more tone-deaf than Democrats during the SotU.
NoName #447061 March 7, 2025 7:00 pm -11
Ackshually, Marco Rubio is a sephardic j00; a not-too-distant relative of the j00, Jack “Ruby” Rubenstein, assassin of John Fitzgerald Kennedy.
NoName #447069 March 7, 2025 10:16 pm -3
LOL’ed @ “-5” from the JIDF contigent. Hilarious.
Wiffle #447088 March 8, 2025 8:58 am 2
You’re not wrong about the possibility of a Spanish descendant having some Jewish roots and showing up to Catholic sacraments. If I didn’t know better however, I would have just tossed out the statement based on that picture. It’s not evidence of anything except someone having too much time on their hands and access to a paint program.
NoName #447126 March 9, 2025 7:09 pm 0
Wiffle:“If I didn’t know better however…“ Well let’s take at glance at “Catholic” Marco Rubio’s relationship with not-so-catholic (((Norman Braman)))… “Braman’s parents wereJewishimmigrants from Europe.”https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Norman_Braman#Early_life_and_education Now let’s take a glance at“Catholic” Marco Rubio’s financial backers… That’s a picture of a Crypto-Sephardic Jew shaking hands with a Khazarian Jew, laughing uproariously as they pull the wool over the eyes of the idiot goyim.
NoName #447125 March 9, 2025 6:57 pm 0
-10, BOO-YAH!!! JIDF earning their keep on this thread.
Dutchboy #447075 March 8, 2025 12:28 am 11
A Jew with Lenten ashes on his forehead? Not bloody likely. He’s just an Israel asslicker like the rest of the pols in DC.
Wiffle #447087 March 8, 2025 8:56 am 1
The stars on the dress was dumb. However, through Spain there are lines of people who show up to Catholic sacraments and keep their Jewish identity. Not all the Jews left Spain after she was reconquered. They showed up at Mass and kept remembering they were Jews in private. They are called “marranos” by the Spanish. The first statement about being descended from marrano lines is possible. The picture proves that the sort of discussion devolves quickly into idiocy.
Steve #447104 March 8, 2025 4:30 pm 0
Her folks were from Columbia, right? Not exactly a disapora hotspot. Sometimes a cigar is just a cigar.
NoName #447128 March 9, 2025 7:22 pm 0
Your response to the picture proves that we don’t deserve to be anything other than the goyim [THE CATTLE, THE LIVESTOCK] of our jewish overlords.
NoName #447127 March 9, 2025 7:19 pm -1
No, you’re making a catastrophic Error of Category.Marco Rubio is a Crypto-Sephardic Jew.There are thousands upon thousands of Crypto-Sephardic Jews throughout the entirety of the Caribbean, Central America and South America.Why do you think Lev Davidovich “Trotsky” Bronstein fled to Mexico to find succor?Why do you think Lee Harvey Oswald was messing around in the Cuban Consulate in Mexico?Why do you think Mexico now has a jewess, named, (((Claudia Sheinbaum))), as its president?Are you not aware that the Castro brothers [Fidel & Raoul] are Crypto-Sephardic jews?Are you not aware that Justin Trudeau is half-White, and halfCrypto-Sephardic jew?C’mon people, we gotta be smarter than what we appear to be here.An whole helluva lot smarter.
TempoNick #446959 March 7, 2025 10:06 am 9
“his people have choreographed for him” I think this is a key point. As good as Trump is, I doubt all of this genius is coming from him. He’s got the right instincts and the pushy personality to make sure things get done, but other people are doing all the grunt work.
Steve #447020 March 7, 2025 1:48 pm 5
This time he managed to pick the right people. Except for that b*tch, Bondi.
The Infant Phenomenon #447030 March 7, 2025 2:44 pm 5
Precisely. I’ve been saying since the USAID thing that it had Steve Bannon’s fingerprints all over it b/c neither Trump nor Musk were Washington insiders and therefore could not have known that “if you pull on that string right there (USAID), the whole thing will unravel.” But Bannon *was* enough of a Washington insider to know that.
Lakelander #446964 March 7, 2025 10:16 am 3
As I understand Gilbert, he himself is a businessman and speaks mainly for the economic interests within Russia. I’ve detected a segment of the pro-Russian commentariat that is more than willing to forgive the US in hopes getting back some Western markets. They’re the ones that speak most glowingly about Trump and his team. They also try to shift as much blame as possible for the Ukraine fiasco onto the shoulders of the Europeans.
Compsci #447051 March 7, 2025 4:01 pm 7
Sure, there always needs to be a fall guy. Europeans were not entirely innocent, but Biden and the neocons had been working toward this war for over a decade. Without the American subterfuge, there would never have been this war.
Mr. Burns #447010 March 7, 2025 1:07 pm 20
I think the retreat from “idealism” is simply a tactical repositioning. Globohomo’s heart and soul is what it has always been. Given unlimited power, Globohomo would go back to its main mission and joy of exterminating the good, the beautiful, and the true.
Marko #446958 March 7, 2025 10:04 am 18
I’m going to Estonia in June. Looks like I don’t have that big comfy GAE umbrella protecting me over there, anymore. Wish me luck lads!
BigJimSportCamper #446970 March 7, 2025 10:32 am 4
Stout fellow!!
Hemid #446989 March 7, 2025 12:07 pm 8
There’s some number—the news always says a thousand or so, but who knows—of British troops deployed there as part of NATO’senhanced forward presenceagainst Russia. (Purely defensive.) I hear they get in a lot of car accidents in the down time between “mock” border incursions. (Defensive incursions.) So, 10 and 2, eyes on the road, and don’t blaspheme Allah when you’re cursing in traffic.
Marko #446991 March 7, 2025 12:14 pm 12
I call it “the Mexico of Finland”. And Estonian cucks shut down the Nevsky Cathedral, which is a beautiful old Russian Orthodox cathedral. I am going to be outspoken about that.
3g4me #447022 March 7, 2025 2:00 pm 10
I’m torn on the issue. Absolutely value beautiful cathedral; at the same time I can understand that to Estonian nationalists, it’s a symbol of hated cultural conquest. Of course then one can ask how long a small nation can remain economically viable and independent in any era. I marveled at many of the mosques I saw in Turkey, but would loathe the sight of them in the US.
Ostei Kozelskii #447038 March 7, 2025 3:08 pm 11
I know it’s easy for me to say, but the Estonians should let bygones by bygones. Now I’m not expecting the them to send Moscow any love letters, but they should make peace with the past and come together with the rest of the white peoples for our common defense and flourishing. Unfortunately, the BFE’s ongoing crusade against Russia, which includes fanning resentments, makes that a pipe dream for the time being.
BigJimSportCamper #447090 March 8, 2025 10:02 am 4
Same for the Poles.
Apex Predator #447054 March 7, 2025 4:28 pm 3
Interesting! I may be in that part of the world at that time as well. Post here again towards June, may be able to connect. I’m actuallyalreadyin that part of the world, but not that far north. If you are a single man you are a kid in a candy store basically, throw a rock hit a thin blue eyed blonde. Sort of like America maybe use to look in the 20th century before it turned into the land of mud genetics.I was originally going to throw a dart at Estonia and I’d be lying if I said that wasn’t one of the reasons but the weather is –brutal– there which put me off a bit for being there anytime past say September.
Arshad Ali #446948 March 7, 2025 9:01 am 18
“Up until now, policy was centered around moral claims about how the world ought to be ordered.” Those moral claims were fig leaf, prolefeed. It was material interest all along, but thinly camouflaged by sanctimonious pap. To the great credit of Trump, he has neither time nor patience for this empty posturing. He is more honest. Let the Europeans engage in this — they have a long history of doing so.
Winthrop #446956 March 7, 2025 9:58 am -16
It’s not the Europeans who lecture the rest of the world about the rules-based order, or democracy or being the last great hope of mankind.Shining city on a hill.LOL Even as you Americans run away from another conflict you are trying to claim the moral high ground with Zelensky. You are doing it personally by trying to imply the Americans are just too honest to make false claims unlike those evil Europeans. Really is an obnoxious part of your national character; although of fading importance as the white part of your country becomes a smaller and smaller minority.
TempoNick #446963 March 7, 2025 10:14 am -12
“as the white part of your country becomes a smaller and smaller minority” I’m not sold that this is going to be the end result. Once you’ve got Latin American assimilation, they become White, or at least white enough. Like Italians and all the rest of the Euro kNyghhers like me.
TempoNick #446983 March 7, 2025 11:55 am 2
I see all the downvotes here. I don’t know where you’re all coming from. If you’re trying to go back to a WASP country, that ship has sailed. That’s a lot of people to throw out. If you’re going to go back to lynching us Southern Europeans, I don’t think that’s going to have a lot of popular support either.The Mexicans and a lot of Latin Americans who come here aren’t that much different. Similar cultures (based in southern Europe), not to mention that Latin America is full of real Europeans too. If Southern Europeans can assimilate, so can they.Final point is that we have a lot of indigenous hispanic people in this country. We’ve got Puerto Ricans, Cubans, Mexicans that came along with the western states we annexed, then we’ve got that Spanish Asian mix that populate our colonies in the Pacific. You gonna lynch all of them too?😂European-ish is the best you can do at this point. Work on keeping the Asians, Indians (dot) and the the other third worlders out.
Apex Predator #446994 March 7, 2025 12:29 pm 26
You are so off in this assessment I don’t where to start. Italians, Irish, Greeks though once snubbed at the end of the day areEuropeanto the core of their being.Those little goblinas and mestizos are genetic aliens who ape the culture and try to claim it as their own. Latino? Really! It’s in the NAME.Latinfrom whence did this language or any associated culture originate? Pro tip- it’s not even close to Guatemala.I just recently visited the Ferrari museum and a Lamborghini museumin Italy. We going to see any El Salvadordean super car factories opening? Or maybe the Venezuelan version of Maserati? Such potential! Just stop…This is so absurd on it’s face it doesn’t even warrant discussion.
Citizen of a Silly Country #447049 March 7, 2025 3:40 pm 5
Yep.
TempoNick #447065 March 7, 2025 9:11 pm -1
Maria Stephanos of WBTS TV, proud of her Greek heritage. Now tell me this woman looks much different from your average Mexican. This pigmentation is common all through southern Europe. .webp
Compsci #447108 March 8, 2025 5:04 pm 4
“…tell me this woman looks much different from your average Mexican.”You must not live around Mexicans. I see them everyday. There are “high castes” and “low castes”, basically based upon the percentage of “Indio” blood. Mexicans will admit this. I don’t particularly care for most purposes. But the woman you point to is definitely not MX looking. The tell is the cheekbones. She has no Indio blood. She is White with a darker shade of skin typical of the Mediterranean populace. She would stand out from MX women anywhere—and they’d know the difference themselves.BTW: The good looking MX women are known by their cheekbones and well as other attributes.
TempoNick #447113 March 8, 2025 7:03 pm -2
I’m speaking strictly skin color. She’s not that much different from the average hispanic. Of course, you are correct that there are also differences among hispanics, but I don’t really want to go into that much detail right now. The point is, if a bunch of Mediterraneans with odd habits were descending on the United States again, the same people screaming about Mexicans would be screaming about Greeks again. The only difference I see is the Greeks have been here long enough to have assimilated, so their habits don’t annoy those inclined to be annoyed, like Hispanics do.
Compsci #447124 March 9, 2025 3:04 pm 0
Skin color is meaningless. Always has been. Racial differences encompass much more subtle physical differences. Sometimes skin color is all you need, but is often deceptive. Then there is Candice Owens who has had plastic surgery. Yeah, she’s Black, but all other obvious characteristics have been removed: https://www.gettyimages.com/detail/news-photo/candace-owens-is-seen-on-set-of-candace-on-april-19-2022-in-news-photo/1392466332?adppopup=true
Dutchboy #447076 March 8, 2025 12:31 am -1
I once had a beautiful Greek girlfriend. She seemed white enough to me.
TempoNick #447101 March 8, 2025 4:20 pm -1
Varying shades of olive throughout the Balkans and the rest of southern Europe. Why do you think they kept joking about Italians being guineas throughout “The Godfather?”
Tars Tarkas #447002 March 7, 2025 12:51 pm 24
We don’t need to lynch anyone. You’re just being dishonest here. Almost all of the mestizos in the US are citizens of their own country. They are not a stateless people without the US. They walked here and they can walk their asses right back to where they came from. There is a tiny minority of mestizos who we inherited a long time ago. They aren’t a big problem.
Jeffrey Zoar #447005 March 7, 2025 12:56 pm 18
I’ll grant that mestizos are preferable to africans, if one must choose, but that’s a rather low bar
Paintersforms #447016 March 7, 2025 1:30 pm 1
It’ll come down to religion, i.e., Protestant/Catholic— PROVIDED, Protestants find religion again, which I’m guessing they will, in some way. White used to equal Protestant, when you think about it, but this was happening as Protestants were secularizing. How did Italians, even Irish, become white? They did like the Protestants, and secularized. America was WASP, probably still is, seeing how it’s falling apart without that identity. I’m guessing the old lines make a comeback in some form, and things get interesting. Or America continues going away. White ain’t going to save the place.
The Infant Phenomenon #447033 March 7, 2025 2:58 pm 8
“America was WASP, probably still is . . . .” The Census of 1980 showed that only 25% of the American population had any British (i.e. “WASP”) ancestry. The largest white ethnic component of the US population is German.
Paintersforms #447046 March 7, 2025 3:37 pm 3
WASP culture, founding stock. Germans fit right in for the most part. I should admit my definition of WASP is broad. Probably something more like WGP (White Germanic Protestant). Irish and Scots, you got some Viking in you. Been getting down for centuries. Ethnogenesis, especially here in America. Hence the broad definition, for lack of a more specific term. Which is why I think the religious aspect is important. Kind of the missing ingredient of ethnicity that’s opened the floodgates.
Bwana Simba #447070 March 7, 2025 10:44 pm 2
This. Anglos stopped being the majority back in the 1800s.
Paintersforms #447080 March 8, 2025 12:47 am 0
Watch more Disney crap.
The Infant Phenomenon #447032 March 7, 2025 2:54 pm 12
” . . . not to mention that Latin America is full of real Europeans too.” If by “Latin America” you mean Argentina and Uruguay, you are right. Otherwise, you don’t know what you are talking about.
TempoNick #447102 March 8, 2025 4:22 pm 0
You mean, they only mate with their own? If that’s what you think, it’s you who doesn’t know what he’s talking about.
Marko #446986 March 7, 2025 11:57 am 2
Our immigration demographics is better than Europe’s, and more assimilable. TempoNick, despite apparently being Italian, is correct. At least we get a large share of Hispanics that could pass for Greco-Italian. The women are better looking, too. I’ll take this over Muslims and Africans any day…If there are only two choices, which there are.
Horace #446995 March 7, 2025 12:31 pm 18
There are many good Latins, honest, hard-working, and functionally Christian.The best of them can form a buffer state to the south of whatever European polity arises in North America after the last twitching death throe of the GAE.However, their higher quality than baseline mesoamerican peasantry does not make them European. Modest admixture simply make them a new kind of people, not a European kind of people. They still have mores, extending from their genome, which are incompatible, different preferences for how organize themselves socially, politically, and economically.There are 200 million unbroken Europeans in North America. We need our own homeland, and we ARE going to have it. I have no problem with us having amicable and cordial relations with Latins to our mutual benefit, but there can be no sharing of power within the same polity.
The Infant Phenomenon #447034 March 7, 2025 3:00 pm 4
Perfectly stated.
Compsci #446997 March 7, 2025 12:35 pm 3
Yeah, you are touching on an area of dispute. Obviously, you and I agree, if there is race mixing then not all non-White races are of equal effect.
Ostei Kozelskii #446985 March 7, 2025 11:55 am 19
Most of the Limeys–I assume you’re a Limey–who post here sure do have little man syndrome. And like a banty Mick with too much whisky in him, you wave your shillelagh around trying to pick a fight with guys who just want to be left alone. Frankly, we’ve got no quarrel with Europe. We just want to get free of the Occidental tar baby and let you guys take care of yourselves for a change. Time for y’all to stop wearing diapers and put on a pair of pants.
3g4me #447012 March 7, 2025 1:12 pm 7
Many of the people who post as ostensible Limeys are actually south Asians – actual English don’t care for American braggadocio, but it’s the south Asians that have the massive chip on their shoulders.
The Infant Phenomenon #447035 March 7, 2025 3:01 pm 1
Or culottes.
Compsci #446996 March 7, 2025 12:32 pm 4
As expected, downvotes. But I read and reread your comment. It is fair in nature, whether agreed to or not. The conflict we “run away from”, however is one that was embraced by an old form of “interventionist” policy that has been disputed in this country for generations starting at least to the aftermath of the Vietnam war (my era).As with any democratic elected society, changes in administrations portend changes in policy. Ukrainian intervention, or even membership in NATO is under consideration every term of years. You are naive to imagine otherwise.As to the quip, “…of fading importance as the white part of your country becomes a smaller and smaller minority.” Careful what you wish for. Not sure of your European origin, but within the primary countries of importance I see no difference between you and us *except* timeline! We do, have one great advantage over Europe, a centuries long experience in dealing with non-White minorities. Seems European countries are “babes in the woods” in that respect.
Bloated Boomer #447063 March 7, 2025 8:09 pm 1
Europeans at least have more of an issue with the replacement. The floodgates opened after shabos wrecked Libya and other mid-East countries, but you’re all happy to play “let’s you and him fight”.
The Infant Phenomenon #447031 March 7, 2025 2:50 pm -3
Ursula? is that you?
Ostei Kozelskii #446982 March 7, 2025 11:49 am 15
I cannot agree. The BFE didn’t fly perv pennants outside every one of its embassies because it was trying to free up capital for Black Rock. Ideology is a huge part of the BFE’s machinations, probably coequal with capitalistic greed. The BFE, up until the Trumpening anyway, was the greatest crusader state the world has ever known. And ideology (or religion) is the crusader state’s fuel.
The Infant Phenomenon #447036 March 7, 2025 3:04 pm 1
BFE? May I get a “translation,” please?
Ostei Kozelskii #447056 March 7, 2025 4:55 pm 0
Sorry. Blackberry Fruitcake Empire.
Steve #447100 March 8, 2025 4:17 pm 1
Rough crowd.
Major Hoople #446940 March 7, 2025 6:19 am 18
It’s interesting that Wilsonian Democracy arrived at the same time as the beginnings of the managerial class.
3g4me #446973 March 7, 2025 10:52 am 15
Managerial class = feminism. Women love process, men prefer results. Wilson was a moralizer – but his wife was acting president for half his term.
BigJimSportCamper #447091 March 8, 2025 10:03 am 2
Sounds familiar.
Tarl Cabot #446976 March 7, 2025 11:02 am 3
As our esteemed host has so brilliantly stated, “Progressivism was created to give moral agency to managerialism”. Wilsonian Democracy was the export of progressive managerialism to the entire world.
Xman #447003 March 7, 2025 12:51 pm 6
Yes. Wilson’s chief advisor, Col. E.M. House, wrote a “fictional” book entitled“Philip Dru, Administrator”which basically outlined his plans for progressive managerial control of society. Wilson went to Versailles with a bunch of academics called “The Inquiry” who were “experts” on how to re-draw the map of Europe. They were the ones who created countries like “Czecho-slovakia,” Poland, and “Jugo-slavia.”We all know how well that worked out in the long run, LOL.The the progressive-managerial revolution has been so successful and so total that people tend to forget that the country existed without it before 1912. In 1912 the first and second place candidates were both “progressives” who believed in expert and centralized managerialism. Roosevelt was trust-buster and a corruption reformer and his party was indeed named the “Progressive Party” and pitched his centralized “New Nationalism” against federalism and decentralization. The hapless “establishment Republican,” Taft, the incumbent, finished a distant third.Almost everyone within the elite class of the era believed in industrial/Fordist managerialism and planning, centralized government, military imperialism, eugenics and white racial superiority. People like Bryan — a Christian Bible thumper and teetotaler who represented small farmers in small-town America — were derided as rubes, hicks and morons. He left Wilson’s administration over its policy toward the war in Europe.
Dutchboy #447077 March 8, 2025 12:34 am 0
Social Darwinism was the fashion among the elite of Western Civilization in those days. It is still around but has gone underground, thought but not spoken.
joey jünger #446950 March 7, 2025 9:12 am 17
Does war cause more sober-minded thinking among the people in charge? It can, if those old men running it have some memory of war in their own lives. It’s when they don’t (and when a lot of those “men” making decisions are actually women) that we seem to get in trouble.There’s the story (apocryphal, probably) that when the War Between States was declared, guys were running around shouting: “This is it! We’ve got our war!” A similar phenomenon happened in Germany in the runup to the Great War. There’s that scene in “All Quiet” in which the starched-collared teacher is pouring all his patriotic fervor into the heads of the boys, happy that the enervation and weakness caused by a long stretch of peacetime is finally at an end.With the neocons, it’s even worse than with the clueless reb or yank ululating about how he’s got his war now, or the prim teacher with his pince-nez blathering about one’s duty to the Fatherland. These men and women (if Jennifer Rubin is one) are using war as a LARP, with the people actually doing it as surrogate onscreen avatars. They feel for the Ukrainians what the kids playing their multiplayer online games feel when one of their grunts gets squashed by an alien. Bolton, especially, has the look of a man who masks his lack of bravery with this vicarious larping. It’s all Risk to him; he very much has that vibe of Himmelstoss, the martinet corporal who berates Paul and the boys in “All Quiet” during basic training only to end up cowering in a trench when he gets sent to the frontlines himself.These people all claim to be historians but it’s a pity their historical memory only stretches back to World War Two. The entrenched stalemate in Ukraine has a lot of parallels with the Great War. A lot of death and a lot of losses of land, with no significant retaking of any lost lands. And they lack the excuse of those who got the world involved in the mass slaughter of the Great War. They weren’t sure at that time what exact effect industrialization would have on warfare (they still had horses and generally believed airplanes to be “amusing toys but of no great military significance”) for instance.We all know what nuclear bombs can do, and while we’ve only seen tests of the hydrogen bomb, we might get a chance to see it in the battlespace soon. A “limited nuclear war” strikes me as being similar to being, “a little bit pregnant.”
Jeffrey Zoar #446971 March 7, 2025 10:40 am 19
The pro war attitude of the western “intelligentsia” towards Ukraine is a direct result of the GAE’s learned adaptation of fighting wars with other country’s soldiers. This is precisely why that adaptation was made. If it was 1,000 American/British/French casualties daily, none of these blithely pro war attitudes could exist. Except perhaps for Bolton’s. I doubt there is any amount of dead, from any country, that could deter his bluster.
Ostei Kozelskii #446987 March 7, 2025 11:59 am 15
If it were 1,000 Blue-Eyed Ice Devils coming home daily in body bags, the NYT would cheer with a blood-curdling roar. If that thousand were Hutus, the NYT would agitate for burning Staten Island down to the studs.
Jeffrey Zoar #447008 March 7, 2025 1:02 pm 6
NYT’s support for war depends entirely on which party occupies the WH
Ostei Kozelskii #447024 March 7, 2025 2:05 pm 1
There’s some truth in that. Rather odd that the NYT hasn’t really hoisted in the reality of the Uniparty.
Ostei Kozelskii #447057 March 7, 2025 4:57 pm 1
Come to think of it, it’s probably Big Media’s job to maintain the fiction of political pluralism in AINO. That would explain why they continue carrying water for the Dems.
Mycale #446992 March 7, 2025 12:27 pm 7
it used to, back when the generals did have that memory or would go to the front line themselves (and send their sons out of a sense of duty). It hasn’t been like that for a while though. The W misadventures were plagued by magical thinking, thinking we could turn Afghanistan into a feminist paradise and Iraq into a free market wonderland, Houston-on-the-Tigris.
Jeffrey Zoar #447004 March 7, 2025 12:53 pm 8
Come to think of it, Houston is looking more like Baghdad all the time
3g4me #447013 March 7, 2025 1:17 pm 3
I was just going toreply! Houston proper was officially 40.82% White in 2024; I think that includes a lot of larping “whit” mestizos, plus various Arabs. Harris County as a whole (including all of Houston’s sprawling suburbs) is only 27.6% White.
Jeffrey Zoar #447015 March 7, 2025 1:24 pm 4
Last I checked, which wasn’t long ago, inside the Houston city limits it is 20% white. Greater metro Houston 47%
The Infant Phenomenon #447040 March 7, 2025 3:09 pm 0
Except for that lesbian mayor.
Hemid #447000 March 7, 2025 12:43 pm 4
Not sure how true it is, but it’s definitely a theme in the literature: The European nations’ entries into WWI werecelebrations—expressions of ecstaticrelief. Waiting for the war is over! Of course rallies can be arranged for the press to exaggerate, and men to whom death isn’t real can become grandiose about it, etc., but there seems to have been some real mass hysteria.(The fashion when I was in school, during an earlier iteration of “wokeness” (the “postmodern” one), was to blame that hysteria onmodern art. Yes, the same old stuff conservatives hate: cubism, dada,Pierrot Lunaire, etc.—all of it condemned as white male perversion. Trench warfare was an excuse for them finally to drop the artistic pretense and literallyplay in shit, you see.)We might be in that kind of hysteria now, beginning (on command) over Ukraine—and now “Europe” going mad, Canada talking about nuking America, etc. The regime is of course insane, but now the average news consumer is really getting into it, reveling in visions of total death, making wild social media threats, booing for television, etc.And the proximate inspiration for it is Trump’snot being like that—being a “realist” (partly via comically imperialist Teddy Roosevelt rhetoric, which might not work out).Fun times.
Jeffrey Zoar #447014 March 7, 2025 1:20 pm 9
I don’t know if it correlates to WW1, but we see the search for meaning, the need to be part of something larger and more meaningful than one’s self, over and over (in people who lack any other source of spiritual meaning). Just 5 years ago (how the time flies), I saw media characterizations of the plandemic as “our generation’s WW2.” Remember that? By wearing that mask and taking that jab, you were doing your part to win WW2! Same thing now with putting a Ukraine flag in one’s social media profile. These people don’t have anywhere else to find meaning.
Ostei Kozelskii #447025 March 7, 2025 2:14 pm 11
Back in 2020/21 in my burg, it was not uncommon to see “We’re all in this together!” signs in front yards. Was this a function of the search for meaning? Sure. Let us all link arms in solidarity to confront the Great Existential Threat. But it was also a function of the feminization of America. In times past, when pestilence,realpestilence such as influenza (1919) struck, Americans stiffened their upper lip and soldiered through as best they could. That is what a manly country does. But a century later we mewed, caterwauled, scolded, placed palliative signs in our yards and wore ridiculous masks. Perhaps the feminizationwasthe meaning.
Compsci #447048 March 7, 2025 3:40 pm 4
“The entrenched stalemate in Ukraine has a lot of parallels with the Great War. A lot of death and a lot of losses of land, with no significant retaking of any lost lands.”if this is your understanding of the current situation, then you have no hope of understanding events further.There is no stalemate on the ground.There has not been for about two years. The front everywhere crumbles for the Uke’s. You live in a past reality, perhaps that of WWII and “big arrow” offensives. Russia—ala Putin—has a different goal/strategy. Putin is grinding the forces of Ukraine down while rounding out the annexed (Russian ethnic) territories, which will become part—are now part—of the Russian Federation.To conquer Ukraine with a big arrow offensive requires sustaining losses for both Russians and Ukrainians—at least an order of magnitude higher. Yes, perhaps “ripping the bandage off” was the best strategy in hindsight, but that was then. Putin has little to no interest in “Ukraine” per se. Only that the Russian population’s rights are protected—this is mostly accomplished—and Ukraine is no longer a viable threat on the border. Until that time, he’s willing to grind down the cream of Ukraine’s young men which will assure a weakened Ukraine perhaps never to re-emerge for several generations.There is no solution to the Uke crisis except surrender of the Uke’s and a banishment of their current regime. Putin holds the cards. Now we are certain to see a “peace treaty” signing with the West claiming a victory of sorts. We saw similar BS in all our direct and proxy wars since Vietnam. In reality however, it will be a capitulation to all Putin’s demands.And even a final “peace” treaty will play into Putin’s hands as possession of the entire country, and its subsequent rebuilding, would place a heavy burden on the Russian economy for years to come. Let the West put together “Humpty Dumpty”.
Lakelander #447053 March 7, 2025 4:12 pm 5
Whenever I hear someone say the word ‘stalemate’ wrt the Russo-Ukraine war, I know I can safely disregard whatever comes after. Usually it comes from people that still mock Russia for not taking Kiev in 3 days.
Compsci #447064 March 7, 2025 9:05 pm 1
Yes. Wise consul, I indulged myself.
BigJimSportCamper #447092 March 8, 2025 10:09 am 0
A must-watch movie IMHO, especially for the young male who has inklings of joining the military. 1930 version of course.
Curious Monkey #447017 March 7, 2025 1:37 pm 13
I don’t know if Trump is the one to try this. But the USA has to become accustomed to have international relationships with any country independent of the international media cartel and globohomo clown world politicians.Like normalize relationships with Russia where the Ukraine is just a point in the agenda. But we can also sanction Ukraine if it insists on a cruel war to the last soldier.The Ursulas Van der Clownish will reeee but that’s the point of going back to reality.The real issue is we cannot be the perpetual payers of clown world wars and as Vance pointed out our diplomacy has a cost to us when we cannot act in our own interest because some fake moral reason forces us to be enemies with a country we should not have any problem with.It is psychopathic of Zelenski to pretend we owe money for a war because the God demoncrazy demands it. Same for many other conflicts we apparently owe our money and lives to be sacrificed because the girl boss godesses demand it.
Presbyterj #446946 March 7, 2025 8:46 am 12
Theodore Roosevelt was an activist reformist President before Wilson without the Puritanism.With regard to Israel, etc: at the heart of Zionism and Judaism is the biblical sense that they are God’s Chosen People and the “ nations” can be dispossessed and if not tolerated, then destroyed as necessary.
usNthem #446947 March 7, 2025 8:51 am 9
Fantastic that actual realism looks to be supplanting dips*** American style “idealism” – it’s caused enough death and destruction around the world these past 107 (if not more) years.
Pickle Rick #446957 March 7, 2025 10:04 am 7
If you want a good study of Washington, you can’t go wrong with Douglas Southall Freeman’s multivolume biography of the man. His style from the 1930s is a bit dated, and he, of course, didn’t have access to many primary sources we can access today, but that is counterbalanced by Freeman not actively hating his subject.
Lakelander #446955 March 7, 2025 9:54 am 7
With the title of today’s post all I can think is that John Mearsheimer is feeling awfully vindicated these days.
Xman #447007 March 7, 2025 1:01 pm 10
But he’s still flummoxed by the extent to which the Israel Lobby controls American foreign policy. It’s a huge problem for the theory of “Realism,” which holds that nations pursue power politics and follow their own interests. Mearsheimer says that the U.S. Israel relationship is actually counterproductive to U.S. interests, yet no one in the foreign policy establishment or the Congress even questions it.
KGB #446961 March 7, 2025 10:12 am 5
Once the Cold War ended, it was like a hyperactive dog that got under the fence. I’d change that to “hydrophobic”.
Captain Willard #447006 March 7, 2025 12:59 pm 4
Foreign Policy is the handmaiden of national economic interest. Zman tends to focus on moral and political vectors, but we have to consider the strong influence on policy of economic interests. We fought WWI largely because NY banks lent a ton of money to UK and France and we aspired to export more. The US did not have a meaningful manufacturing surplus until 1900, by which point our raw material trade surplus had shrunk to parity. Progressive politics predates our emergence as an industrial exporter and certainly predates modern scientific management (Taylor, Ford, Sloan, Emerson, Drucker). The Progressive movement was grafted on to US foreign policy as a tool for and justification of our economic expansion, not merely as vehicle for moral preening.
The Infant Phenomenon #447043 March 7, 2025 3:30 pm 2
I agree. As I say upthread: They need a cover in the form of an outside enemy to blame the impending sovereign debt crisis on. They want war so they can blame Putin for their destruction of their countries.
ProZNoV #447037 March 7, 2025 3:06 pm 1
Enjoyed the show and would like more discussion of Thucydides. More specifically the “Thucydidian Trap” All the rage a few years ago in DC. Still relevant as the Blob just can’t wait to go to war with China.
tashtego #447085 March 8, 2025 8:38 am 1
another vote for a Thucydides show.
pyrrhus #447021 March 7, 2025 1:52 pm 1
Wilson did, however, fire all the negro employees of the USPS, a move opposed by both parties, and later negated by them…Wilson was nuts…
Dr_Mantis_Toboggan_MD #447129 March 9, 2025 9:49 pm 0
I would enjoy separate shows on Thucydides (I read the History of the Peloponnesian War in college) and Reagan. Making the case for Reagan either ending the Cold War or the Soviets collapsing largely on their own with a bit of a push (the so-called Star Wars wasn’t it).
Vegetius #447120 March 8, 2025 10:12 pm 0
Typical of the Jesuitical to elide the man from Hippo as he strikes you.
Southern Brother #447103 March 8, 2025 4:29 pm 0
Saw your face for the first time on ramzpual. You look way younger than you let on brother. Always enjoy your content.
Pickle Rick #446969 March 7, 2025 10:31 am -1
And I’m going to lay this out which won’t be popular. I despise Wilson’s sanctimonious moralizing as much as the next man, but you do have to take into account the historical context of the revulsion the Great War caused in the West among people with a 19th century concept of acceptable conduct of war, which the very brief (1914-1918) era of total industrial war, with millions of dead, was a shock that simply had no historical precedent, and the crowned heads of Europe, especially Victoria’s idiot grandchildren, mostly Wilhelm and Nicholas, were primary drivers of. The Germans did implement the first use of poison gas warfare, aerial bombing of civilians, and unrestricted submarine warfare, and did so in such a flagrant manner that it genuinely did violate civilized standards which, in conjunction with the very real self interest of the United States in curbing Imperial Germany’s global ambitions makes Wilson’s determination to end that horror somewhat understandable. We have all grown up in a world where Germany is a gelded eunuch for so long that we forget that they were rightfully regarded from 1885 on as a dangerous nation with a mentally unstable emperor, a ruthless army and a navy larger than the United States Navy.
lavrov #446972 March 7, 2025 10:45 am 21
“rightfully regarded” by British propaganda?
Compsci #446998 March 7, 2025 12:40 pm 6
Bingo! No dog in this fight, but most all points made are easily refuted—especially if one compares GB at the time, and even the American. Germany was “late to the table” as they say in this game.
Pickle Rick #447023 March 7, 2025 2:03 pm -5
The Germans releasing 150 tons of chlorine gas at Ypres on April 22, 1915 was real, not propaganda.
Salmon #447066 March 7, 2025 9:18 pm 1
The french did gas warfare first, they just weren’t good at it and it backfired on them. The germans were only the first ones to do it *successfully*. Every involved party was ready to throw down everything they had over the pointless squabble, the germans were just more competent at it than the other involved parties (for the most part). Assigning blame to germany over WW1 is just stupid. Most of the european powers didn’t like having a new kid on the empire block. The “Wilhelm was a crazy lunatic” meme was mostly propaganda. Funny how the people you mentioned, such as Bismarck, didn’t like him already before they started saying he was crazy. Also funny how every boogeyman is a crazy monster. Always has been. The germans had it coming because they bayonetted belgian babies too, right?
Steve #447105 March 8, 2025 4:33 pm 1
“…the germans were just more competent at it than the other involved parties…” Imagine that.
Zulu Juliet #446993 March 7, 2025 12:27 pm 7
I find the Ukraine business an echo of the First World War in that at least one side doesn’t understand the sunken cost fallacy. In WW1 it could be said all the players kept throwing blood and treasure into the fray because so much had been sacrificed, giving up was unthinkable. In Ukraine, the West, [with the exception of Trump and his minions] cannot conceive that the last three years were a waste and calling it quits is the best option. Or maybe they just don’t want a profitable scam to end.
Pickle Rick #447027 March 7, 2025 2:21 pm 4
There’s that and probably something to the fact that the only acceptable ethnic hatred white Western Europeans are allowed to have now is the centuries old hatred of Russians (beyond the hatred that the Kagans and Kristols etc, have had for generations), which has never gone away. Russians are still seen by the West as savage peasant barbarians, who are both mocked and feared.
Dutchboy #447079 March 8, 2025 12:42 am 5
It’s also about preserving the Cold War institutions that would have no reason to exist absent an enemy. Russia fits the bill.
The Infant Phenomenon #447042 March 7, 2025 3:26 pm 2
They need a cover in the form of an outside enemy to blame the impending sovereign debt crisis on. They want war so they can blame Putin for their destruction of their countries.
The Infant Phenomenon #447041 March 7, 2025 3:22 pm 0
https://www.amazon.com/Fall-Eagles-Michael-Hordern/dp/B000EMGF2Q/ref=sr_1_1?crid=3BS3TFCWQHC2M&dib=eyJ2IjoiMSJ9.ze2FNXPfJIKVDj46pF-KLlSEXzOen9oFiN_FYbciYCICQfBVvW5o5BMSwmwBJEKd702vt6nrxQb-kU2aC4SB3Iw_7mxMhN2Ax1zJyHSDwQCG8lyHEFFqbjeBDnLWZeZDhslgf4hTYtKFhAG4ZZDhu6Z3k_liHcJ_g712jNikRF_2-zAusMfyYaUhjKipINQetiVm2mmb5XRK9BL0-k-H0CDoiirzUZIcfah9LvgfPYTqX0VYhZkrah-ZIBMbC3GQQU9KVtkbto5GCHq-ptAUZp2wDG9JdeUHmoDmghnMiU_5TyypqRlXfxyeSNSiGbmn5LZdCGzVXIO011tWi2Sy4g.Rbv6eUPs-SSK81fsO2mKS5SSFfP_km3f8dymaM7tV5g&dib_tag=se&keywords=fall+of+eagles&qid=1741378650&s=movies-tv&sprefix=the+fall+of+eagles%2Cmovies-tv%2C140&sr=1-1 Absolutely fantastic BBC series from the 70s, when the BBC was still the BBC. I cannot recommend this series too highly. “The Fall of Eagles” title referring to the coats of arms of the houses of Habspburg, Romanov, and Hohenzollern. Really first rate series that no history buff should miss.
Pickle Rick #447058 March 7, 2025 5:36 pm -2
One should always remember that mental illness and straight upinsanityran through most of Europe’s royal families, not least through most of them being to one degree or another descended from the Hanoverian Queen Victoria, where madness and degeneracy (including some serious sexual perversions) runs in the family all the way to the “Windsors” today, and the cousin marriage that produced physical and mental deficiencies in all of them in varying degrees. The Habsburgs are in their own special category as a byword for inbreeding separate from the tainted blood of Victoria, and Vittorio Emanuelle of Italy was a midget mentally and physically- and none of this was much of a secret. Yet these crowned idiots and deviants presumed to immolate all of Europe in blood and then wonder why Wilson and Americans wanted to sweep them all away in the aftermath with some justified moral superiority. Of course the monsters that replaced them in Hitler and Stalin were even worse, but Wilson didn’t have a magic 8 ball in 1917.There was something seriously wrong with Wilhelm II and his own royal relatives thought so, as well as Otto von Bismarck, and others who saw him up close.
Salmon #447067 March 7, 2025 9:21 pm 1
His royal relatives that just happened to be his grand chessboard rivals and Bismarck, himself an utterly sociopathic lunatic that wasn’t exactly a picture of stability himself and was bitter about his firing, said that about him, huh? I believe it.
Dutchboy #447078 March 8, 2025 12:40 am 2
But, but.. It was a war to make the world safe for democracy!
Bloated Boomer #447082 March 8, 2025 5:00 am 1
OUR democracy.And OUR greatest strength.
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Yman #446941 March 7, 2025 6:53 am -13
what’s the point? We all knew that Sri Lanka loving lesbian AFD leader isn’t right-wing, Trump is another Shabbos goy nothing gonna change, business as usual because white people are still the frog in the boiling pot Smash and grab should be engraved on constitution “We the people who are looting white people, in Order to form a more perfect Ponzi scheme…”
The Infant Phenomenon #447045 March 7, 2025 3:35 pm 1
This book is for you (and everybody else, but your comment brought this book to mind, and in my opinion, it is probably the most important book ever written on the American political system. It’s readable, too.) https://www.alibris.com/Our-Enemy-the-State-Albert-Jay-Nock/book/30040653?matches=13
Yagama #447081 March 8, 2025 2:56 am -2
yep, court jester who lived a hundred years ago on Royal court of JP Morgan gonna help us all why don’t you just join the national assembly of we the surrender monkeys?


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