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A bit of a weird show this week. The post on Wednesday got me thinking about how I would explain to someone what I think is happening in Washington. That post relied on people understanding a lot of things that would not be familiar to most, so they would need a quick background before getting to the meat of the topic. Thinking about how to do that led to the idea of doing a show on it.

One of the things that you see with people who arrive on this side of the great divide is they often go through a crash course learning all the stuff that was excluded from their education and political understanding. Condensing that down into easily digestible bits is probably a good project for someone, given that we are seeing millions turn up on the edge of the great divide, looking for a lift over to this side.

That really is something to savor. Trump gave a presser after the chopper collided with the passenger jet in Washington and he put the blame on diversity. It is not the first time he has said something like this since he was inaugurated, but it is still shocking to hear a public official say what had been prohibited a year ago. This administration is saying things that got you booted from Twitter before Musk.

This is why the corporate takeover model works. Every company has a culture, and that culture is reinforced by management. Inevitably when new owners come in it means changes to the culture. To outsiders it does not seem that important, but to the people inside it is shocking. Our political system is being overhauled in the equivalent of a hostile takeover, like greenmailing. Instead, it is orangemailing.

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Contents

  • Intro
  • Origins Of Managerialism
  • The Growth Of The Managerial Class
  • Nixon
  • Reinventing Government
  • The Shadow Government
  • The Greenmailers
  • The End Game

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Marko #441885 January 31, 2025 9:46 am 26
The revolution will just have to happen one funeral at a time. I’ve tried to make friendly bridges to This Side of the Great Divide and I get blank stares from old Republicans and that “is he Old Scratch?” face from left-leaning people of all ages.
Compsci #441890 January 31, 2025 10:34 am 36
Well at least you get blank stares from old Rep’s. I get them from Dem’s as well. Met our neighborhood retired Governor just yesterday while walking the dog. He was without wife and had a hankering to talk politics—don’t they all? Such talks are fairly short since I’m a hard case. I believe he confuses me with a fellow traveler since I’m retired from University.He started reminiscing about government days and his discussion with University Presidents wrt holding tuition stable. He said he offered a 10% increase in funding if they promise no tuition hikes for 5 years. They came to no agreement. I dismissed educational administrators as “whores” that do anything for money, and then turned to the greater aspect of the discussion—just what he thought a 10% increase in spending would accomplish education-wise?He was taken back at this. I believe that he assumed more money=better education axiomatically. I do not. I then gave him my grand theory of social work from a measurement and research perspective, “if you can’t measure it, it doesn’t exist.”That was my blank stares of the day…. 😉
NoName #441893 January 31, 2025 10:42 am 28
Compsci, if I were you, I’d be very careful around these personalities; they are badly malformed [vis-a-vis classical notions of stable personalities]. Our ancestors used to say, “Scratch a Liberal, get a Fascist”. But nowadays, it’s more like, “Scratch a retired University Professor, get a serial killer.” SRSLY, BRO. Be very very careful around these badly malformed personalities.
Compsci #441895 January 31, 2025 11:14 am 22
I will consider your perspective. I hope my dog is not a “pussy” if I get punched in the face. 😉To my defense (I guess) I am old and few people now a days gives a hoot in hell what I think and I have few people of the classical liberal mind set to converse with anyway. Wife is worthless in that respect as she simply wants to go along to get along (don’t they all?).As much as I like this forum, you guys—and girls—just can’t be expected to challenge me from a Leftist/Liberal perspective. It takes the edge off of one’s argumentation when directly confronting the opposition so to speak. I need practice in this area, certainly with my own self control as well as argumentation.Does this make sense?
ray #441907 January 31, 2025 11:51 am 4
Sounds like living in Iwo Jima.
tashtego #441908 January 31, 2025 12:16 pm 33
What is the point of verbal dialectic with an adversary anyway? There is no common foundation of accepted objective reality, no first principles to build upon in the pursuit of discovering some shared truth.
Alzaebo #441914 January 31, 2025 12:32 pm 7
For practicing one’s own argument, tash. We are people who talk to the mirror all the time…have an internal dialogue and a moral quandry, that is. Weconsider. The disadvantage points to the difference. Street hustlers, union negotiators, criminal lawyers–they too have an internal dialogue, but it’s how to seek advantage, not to be fair, or objective, or walk in another’s moccasins. Apparently, they can completely distance themselves, as if there were one self inside watching the other self outside dispassionately. The one outside might be ranting or threatening, while the one inside cooly watches for cues.
tashtego #441930 January 31, 2025 2:03 pm 13
I do think dialog with allies can serve the purpose of honing arguments based on reason to sharper service in support of the more important moral frame. It is the moral frame that is primary though and that rests on a foundation independent of reason. The enemy is not just wrong, they are evil. This is both true and necessary to reinforce the moral frame required to embolden and motivate. I think a great service to our side is to come up with characterizations of the enemy that are both fitting and have a succinctness suitable for screaming in their faces with righteous rage. Baby Killer is certain one. The goal is to frame the enemy, both who they are and what they stand for, in moral terms that are unacceptable to the majority.
The Infant Pheonomenon #441965 January 31, 2025 5:04 pm 7
Upvote on GP, but I just say Kill ’em, and let God sort ’em out.
The Infant Pheonomenon #441964 January 31, 2025 5:02 pm 2
I think it’s just that what Gen. Lee used to call “those people” are supremely self-unaware. On those numerous occasions when you–meaning “you,” not “one”–think, “Can you even *hear* yourself?!” the answer is no. But YOU have to supply that answer, for those people are too self-unaware to do it.
Ostei Kozelskii #441920 January 31, 2025 12:53 pm 28
And this is one way matters have changed. With old school, mainline liberals–they no longer exist–dialogue and reasoned debate was possible and therefore worthwhile. That is no longer the case. The postmodern Leftist is a twisted zealot with whom we share absolutely no common ground. They cannot be reached. These people are not opponents, they are enemies. We’re to the point that there are only three possible outcomes: separation, subjugation or war.
KGB #441933 January 31, 2025 2:21 pm 6
And yet, most everyone on this side of the Great Divide feels the impulse to do it. There’s got to be an evolutionary reason normal white men (and some women) want to do this. I understand the oftentimes futility of these conversations, but it’s a mostly harmless activity.
Steve #441942 January 31, 2025 2:58 pm 25
Normal white men expect that people respond to fact and reason. Back when normal white men ran things, facts and reason quite often won the day. That’s no longer the case. Not only are there a lot less normal white men, the abnormal ones tend to have control over the instruments of power.
The Infant Pheonomenon #441966 January 31, 2025 5:05 pm 8
The unavoidable result of universal suffrage.
ray #441978 January 31, 2025 6:17 pm 3
Hey Nineteen! (stolen from Steely Dan)
Ketchup stained griller #441986 January 31, 2025 7:01 pm 5
Turn that jungle music down,
oldcoyote #442036 February 2, 2025 4:49 pm -1
my favorite meme from the gab days (gone but not forgotten) :some warrior dragging his buddy off thru the snow into the woods“come with me fren- there is nothing back there for us”
Alzaebo #441911 January 31, 2025 12:30 pm 1
It makes perfect sense.
Xman #441912 January 31, 2025 12:31 pm 8
“I hope my dog is not a “pussy” if I get punched in the face.” Won’t matter what your dog does as long as you’re carrying your Glock 26…
Compsci #441919 January 31, 2025 12:44 pm 2
Yeah, I have thought of that. But am lazy and it’s somewhat uncomfortable when 100 degrees outside and I’m in baggy shorts and a tee shirt sweating like a pig. But your thinking is spot on—“there are no victims, only volunteers…”. Sigh.
Xman #441944 January 31, 2025 3:12 pm 0
Sounds like a J-frame Airweight is in your future, then…
Compsci #441959 January 31, 2025 4:33 pm 0
In that you’ve hit the nail on the head. I have such a “device” in non-corrosive aluminum—airweight, no hammer. Yep, toss it in pocket and away you go.
Xman #441992 February 1, 2025 8:38 am 0
Wise man say: “Stay strapped or get clapped…”
Ostei Kozelskii #441921 January 31, 2025 12:54 pm 6
Not your granddaddy’s glockenspiel. It plays a sonata of a rather different timbre…
NoName #441927 January 31, 2025 1:33 pm 6
Compsci, my point is that these sh!tlib personality types are never more than just a few tenths of a second away from going full-blown postal on you. https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=POSTAL Don’t give them the excuse to light the fuse and explode in your face. Be very very careful around these hyper-unstable personalities.
WCiv911 #441938 January 31, 2025 2:39 pm 9
Who knows what evil lurks in the hearts of man, or woman, especially those who don’t know the difference?
ray #441980 January 31, 2025 6:19 pm 3
The Shadow knows.
The Infant Pheonomenon #441962 January 31, 2025 4:55 pm 2
Our ancestors used to say, “Scratch a Liberal, get a Fascist”. My paternal grandmother (born 1896) made liberal use of the term “Godless Bolsheviks.” And she wasn’t being the least bit ironic or arch.
oldcoyote #442037 February 2, 2025 4:51 pm 1
How is it that folks on this side of the divide still think liberals are fascists? They are RED Bolshie COMMIES.
Steve #442039 February 2, 2025 8:35 pm 0
“There’s not a dimes worth of difference…” Germany was largely socialist, the major split being international socialism (workers of the world) and national socialism (people of Germany). Since fistfights between them would break out in the Reichstag, the rest of the bazillion parties sat in the middle, separating the two.
Krustykurmudgeon #441988 January 31, 2025 8:05 pm 0
The democratic party had way more power in the 50s-90s and I don’t recall the party being full of malformed personalities
NoName #442025 February 1, 2025 9:41 pm 1
Krustykurmudgeon: “The democratic party had way more power in the 50s-90s and I don’t recall the party being full of malformed personalities” And yet, here we are, in the 2020s, and the democrat party is now 110% badly malformed personalities. That poor fellow, from Pennsylvania, John Fetterman, with the horrible brain injury, is about the closest thing the DEMs have to a reasonably normal personality in their midst.
Alzaebo #441910 January 31, 2025 12:24 pm 2
Astounded, I’d say, that you even considered anything outside of the money.That’s why all this stuff is so values-neutral to them, they’re just running a business, like Cartel or Military does.
Jeffrey Zoar #441918 January 31, 2025 12:43 pm 23
Among “leftists,” throwing (other people’s) money at education is sacred. Throwing money at favored causes in general is sacred. And I use that word advisedly. It’s their demonstration that they care about the “right” things. How it is spent, whether it does any good, entirely beside the point. The point is that they care. About the right things.
Marko #441928 January 31, 2025 1:44 pm 8
Money, money, money. I have been in quite a few political discussions with normies and they are absolutely sure that “money” is the root cause of everything. When I suggest that morality and not money make the world go ’round, then I get a blank stare.
Steve #441943 January 31, 2025 3:03 pm 11
Probably because its not true. Look at the fiasco of RFKJr hearings. More than one demanded RFK renounce ever getting funding from big med or big pharma, and yet the most vicious harpies (yes, Bernie is also a harpie) accept at least 6 figures of funding from them. I’m not convinced money is the cause. I think it’s probably pure irrationalism and hysteria.
Piffle #441948 January 31, 2025 3:59 pm 7
Money is easier to understand for the average person. Many have not caught on that once enough money has been acquired, people’s interests turn elsewhere.
The Infant Pheonomenon #441968 January 31, 2025 5:08 pm 7
Actually, love makes the world go round. But vodka makes it spin.
Compsci #441961 January 31, 2025 4:47 pm 6
“Astounded, I’d say, that you even considered anything outside of the money.”We are all a product of our upbringing and general life experience. My areas of study were Research and Measurement, and Statistics. Scientific endeavor was always pounded into me as using those tools to “prove” a theory. This of course was before the great awakening in our universities and the subsequent destruction of evidence based knowledge.I’m always ready to give ideas a try, but never without a realistic framework of what expectations/results are to be had, and how to measure such. I don’t vary from this process—I can’t even conceive of acting outside of this process—which is why I fully believe such abandonment underlies most all that ails the scientific community outside of some STEM fields.
The Infant Pheonomenon #441960 January 31, 2025 4:40 pm 5
It is part of the general enstupiation of America by means of the degradation of language by means of impoverishment and confusion of ordinary speech and writing–just as Orwell described in “1984,” which was his expansion on his essay titled “Politics and the English Language.”Nor do I think that the erosion and corrosion was deliberate: It just happened. When the superstition of universal equality triumphed universally, no other result was possible, and there was never a time when we were going to end up anywhere but where we now find ourselves.The ignorance is universally encouraged, too. Just dare to offer an honest correction of some “commenter” at a“conservative” site such as Breitbart (I know, I KNOW but it’s my finger on the pulse.) These “conservatives” rant about low standards of this and that, but if you make a simple and honest suggestion that they *could* walk their talk, it’s Katy, bar the door! The willfully and pridefully ignorant are everywhere triumphant.I’ll spare y’all a rant on some of my multitudinous pet peeves; you all know what I mean. And if I got started, well …… but what the hell is “a possible tornado” or a “possible broken arm”? How are they different from an impossible tornado or an impossible broken arm? Why do banquet speakers–after the instant mashed potatoes and canned “French-cut green beans”–insist–universally–on thanking Mrs Gotrocks for “making this evening possible” when even my grandchildren know that the evening was *always* “possible”?Well, I said I wouldn’t, so II’ll stop.
ray #441981 January 31, 2025 6:22 pm 0
My goodness then.
Captain Willard #441929 January 31, 2025 2:01 pm 6
Yes the political class is a gerontocracy and the Boomercons still take their signals from them. Even Trump is old after all. I think that’s why Vance generates more excitement than any VP in my lifetime. It could be argued that he is the most significant politician in America now from a generational and Overton window perspective.
Piffle #441949 January 31, 2025 4:00 pm 3
Not sure why you’re getting down votes. Any honest observer can see what’s going on age wise in the Federal government.
Steve #441994 February 1, 2025 10:05 am -1
Not sure, but “more exciting than any other VP in my lifetime” is a pretty low bar.
Ostei Kozelskii #442012 February 1, 2025 12:40 pm 2
Yes. About like the most exciting insurance seminar in Nebraska.
The Infant Pheonomenon #441969 January 31, 2025 5:11 pm 6
AND he has an H1b wife.
Ketchup-stained Griller #441991 February 1, 2025 8:07 am 11
She’s just doing the work he couldn’t get American girls to do.
Steve #441939 January 31, 2025 2:45 pm 1
I wouldn’t hold my breath. As the oldsters die off, they are being replaced by people who agree with open borders, socialized medicine, nanny state crap, etc. by almost 25 points. There’s a reason that it’s mostly young people holding up those “Welcome Asylum Seekers” banners, and not crusty old farts. ?w=310
Piffle #441950 January 31, 2025 4:02 pm 6
We need to break those down by ethnic demographics. Young Americans are much more conservative than even my generation at their age. “There’s a reason that it’s mostly young people holding up those “Welcome Asylum Seekers” banners, and not crusty old farts.” Yes, for the same reason young people held up “End the War Now” and burned bras in the 1960’s. Free time and poor critical thinking skills.
Steve #441967 January 31, 2025 5:08 pm 0
“We need to break those down by ethnic demographics.“ Not until you complete the deportations. And how are you going to do so by increasing the number of people who oppose deportations? “for the same reason young people held up “End the War Now” and burned bras in the 1960’s. Free time and poor critical thinking skills.“ True. The thing is, you will always be adding in the young and stupid.
Mycale #441958 January 31, 2025 4:27 pm 6
Well, provided Trump completes his work to remake the Republican Party in his image, and kick old old idiot geezers who hate him, the party will be more attractive to young people, especially young men. What 25 year old is going to sign up for a party that only cares about corporate tax cuts, cheap labor, and Ronald Reagan? A party that not once, not ever, has shown any desire to helping him out or tried to make his life easier? It’s stupid. Now, that guy might not sign up for the party that only cares about the deep state and to turn the country into South Africa, but he also isn’t signing up for Republicans.
ray #441982 January 31, 2025 6:27 pm 10
‘the party will be more attractive to young people, especially young men’ This is the demographic that not only is unserved, it is the cultural target. There is vast potential there and they’d rally to most anyone that, finally, expressed and defended their interests.
The Wild Geese Howard #442014 February 1, 2025 1:01 pm 5
Elon certainly has many faults, but at least he was canny enough to go on Rogan and issue a call to young men. I’m paraphrasing, but the call was something like, “Go out and vote like your life depended on it, because it does. If Kamala wins it’s all over.” Based on the election results, that call was heard and answered.
Compsci #441963 January 31, 2025 4:57 pm 2
Steve. I was an absolute idiot in my early years. To know me was to be certain I was going nowhere in life. Even attending university was an after thought. Undergraduate years were less than serious. Until my twenties, little real independent effort put into studies. I’d say I was possibly one of those in your graph.What happened? I grew up. So will many of those polled in the table you posted. You grow up when faced with reality and the need to be an adult. The Dem’s and their Leftist philosophy are enticing, but give them long enough and their policies will screw you every time.
Steve #441970 January 31, 2025 5:14 pm 1
Oh, absolutely! It’s easy to be young and stupid. When I was that age, I seriously considered being a lawyer so I could become a politician. I forget who said it, but people tend to be conservative about those things they know best. And as they age into their 30s and 40s, they will probably be pretty close to the current 30s and 40s. It’s just in the mean time, we are adding people who have not yet grown up. Plus people who now have skin in the game to continue the migrant lunacy.
Ostei Kozelskii #441973 January 31, 2025 5:39 pm 8
Your developmental curve sounds identical to mine. I was such a lazy, immature bum that I didn’t even graduate high school on time. I appeared headed toward a vocational degree in making gravel rather than a doctorate in Russian intellectual history. (Not that the latter is much less disreputable than the former, by the by.) But, at the age of 20 the IRS audited and punished me severely for failure to report tips, and this event knocked me out of college–where I was just scraping by–for three years. During those three years, I grew up 20, and that maturation saved me from God know what sort of life.
Compsci #442003 February 1, 2025 11:30 am 1
“During those three years, I grew up 20, and that maturation saved me from God know what sort of life.” That—and the fact that your parents’ home didn’t have a basement?
Ostei Kozelskii #442013 February 1, 2025 12:43 pm 1
Now that you mention it, that’s correct. I moved out on my own during this enforced sabbatical from my scholarly labors.
The Infant Pheonomenon #441955 January 31, 2025 4:18 pm 5
Most people are idiots.
Jeffrey Zoar #441956 January 31, 2025 4:25 pm 3
Over the years, on my way here, I gave people a lot of blank stares. That’s often just an outward manifestation of the inability to react to some truth you can’t refute. It’s part of the journey. You’re aware enough, of true and false, to know what’s true, but you aren’t yet able to address it in the mental frame to which you’ve been conditioned. Slowly, as more “new” truths are encountered, that conditioning is thrown off, the mental frame adjusts. Until a threshold is reached which seems sudden at the time, but really isn’t.But I was at least partway “here” from youth, it must be admitted, insofar as I distrusted the media from my teens, and never gave whites grief about being “racist,” even though I thought of myself as the colorblind non-racist person I’d been raised to be. For instance, it was safe to say the word nigger in my presence, and I wouldn’t say anything to you about it. So maybe I didn’t have as far to travel to the DR as some. Some have so far to travel that they can probably never get here. But probably some percentage of the blank stares you receive are works in progress who may get “here.”
NoName #442026 February 1, 2025 11:24 pm 2
Z-Man: “Trump gave a presser after the chopper collided with the passenger jet in Washington and he put the blame on diversity.“ Marko: “The revolution will just have to happen one funeral at a time.“ The helicopter pilot, who drove her helicopter into the airplane, was a Dyke, who worked in the Biden Administration, and whose father worked in the Duke University HumanVACCINEInstitute, within an organizational chart headed byANTHONY FAUCI. https://x.com/lauraloomer/status/1885850262704734599 https://freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/4294218/posts?q=1&;page=101 We Old School dullards simply cannot imagine how to make up fiction which could possibly compete with the insanity of Klownworld Hellscape.
fakeemail #441903 January 31, 2025 11:41 am 21
“One of the things that you see with people who arrive on this side of the great divide is they often go through a crash course learning all the stuff that was excluded from their education and political understanding.” Especially from their understanding of GIRLS! Never forget that the true origin of the Red Pill is from our proud forefathers like Heartiste, Mystery, and Style. Figuring out why you can’t get a date is the beginning!
karl von hungus #441884 January 31, 2025 9:39 am 21
OT: looks like a troon was piloting the helo that crashed intentionally into the AA jet. coupled with all the troon school shooters, and the troon serial killer cult (that killed the border patrol agent in vermont recently) i would say these people need to be locked away from normal society.
RealityRules #441886 January 31, 2025 10:15 am 18
I had one of those mindless video spirals yesterday after a long productive day of work. It was a bunch of well produced clips made by Marines. Some were very slick MIC videos, but most were done on the spot during some field training. You get a glimpse of some of the people serving in the military alongside some absolute chads and it is shocking. Of course in the MIC slick clip it was some exercise in the Middle East and they put front and center 3 blacks a fat dumpy latinx and the rest of the phalanx were chad 101sters. Two of the blacks in the very front were being filmed for a high production clip and they were talking to each other out of the sides of their mouths and smiling.No posture, no gravitas, no discipline. In contrast was some behind the scenes footage, (iPhone shot), of the Army Honor Guard doing the 21 gun salute for the inauguration. These guys were put together with perfect uniforms, in freezing cold with no shivering, full decorum in firing the canons and then did the heavy lifting to get the gear ready to be taken away. It is very striking when you see these things. Hegseth was on a short clip to the men reporting on the crash. He looks put together. He had his sleeves rolled up showing his We The People tattoos. I am not a fan of tattoos, but this guy looks like he is a leader.May he do a very healthy amount of orangemailing and culling the grossly unfit from the forces. Just looking at it is demoralizing. I can only imagine being in and around it.May VIth Revolution continue to steamroll.
Compsci #441894 January 31, 2025 10:55 am 19
Aside from this recent airport crash incident, which I have little knowledge of, things (DIE) are still bad in AZ. Our Dem governor, Hobbs, just appointed a new AZ Supreme Court judge. The announcement from her at a press conference was shown on local TV. Hobbs was literally giddy as she proudly announced our ‘…first Latina, Black, Woman…’ Supreme Court justice. WOW, just wow, 3 check boxes marked for diversity! Got to be a record, although I suppose our new SC Justice could also have been a lesbian in a wheel chair for even more “qualifications”….But wait, it gets better. The appointee was at the press conference and spoke to the press. I did not hear if her comments were directed at questions from the press, but did hear her say, ‘…I’m proud to be a diversity candidate and what we need is even more diversity and inclusion on the Court…’. Not a word was mentioned of her accomplishments during her past days as an appeals court judge in the system. Sigh….
Ostei Kozelskii #441899 January 31, 2025 11:24 am 10
This is worth noting. Strangely enough, good things are happening at the FedGov level, but matters are still appalling at the state and local levels. Typically, anything consequential percolates up rather than trickles down. Let us hope that the Trumpening rapidly permeates the lower levels of society rather than running into insuperable walls of recalcitrance.
Compsci #441916 January 31, 2025 12:39 pm 3
I was perhaps too pessimistic. Trump already had an effect. The AZ legislature picked up seats in the House and Senate. We were down to one seat margins last term. This was a surprise to me. We also have a long term conservative Rep Congress critter, who is standing down and taking a run for Governor in 2026. That’s a powerful opponent for the highest State office.
ray #441902 January 31, 2025 11:41 am 14
‘As for my people, children are their oppressors, and women rule over them’ (Isaiah 3:12)
RealityRules #441905 January 31, 2025 11:45 am 11
No doubt Compsci. The rot is very deep. Very very deep. There are a lot of things to be wary about in regards to the techno-optimists. In some sense they are hyper-managerialists. Everything is to be optimized for hyper efficiency and this is a technological economic zone. We are going to have to find a way to get them to understand that We are A People. We in particular are The People. The DIE stuff and the open statement by Trump that someone decided there were too many white people at FAA is huge.I digress. The shutoff of the money is the death of the Clinton/Soros shadow government system. On another positive note, the techno optimists are ready to play for keeps. In regards to the state and local rot Peter Thiel told carpet munching infiltrator Bari that during Covid they took massive sums of debt off of the books of municipalities. He said they were all blue. Then he pulled the dagger out. He said that they are bankrupt again and that one option is to just let them go insolvent this time.They realized that the other side was playing for keeps. Now they are too. Perhaps the federal NGO de-funding will cascade and force a blue metro reckoning. Another positive sign is the location of the initial ICE raids. Military ICE units went into blue redoubts with a show of force.At some point, well, we know the old rules and the old system is dead and the rot deep and broad. So, who has the resolve to accept that reality and the reality of the generations coming of age, and act accordingly will win.“Republic” V was killed in ’20, and those revolutionaries had both hands on our throat. So far, Trump is acting like a guy who pulled a counter move and is ready to reciprocate. May the Gods be with him and be with Us and may we all prove worthy of their backing.
The Infant Pheonomenon #441971 January 31, 2025 5:18 pm 2
But can she put out fires?
Compsci #441887 January 31, 2025 10:16 am 8
I suspect when all is said and done, there will be evidence of incompetence in the accident likely to be the result of hiring/promotion pref’s. However, jumping to conclusions and using this incident as evidence prematurely is risky. Yeah, it works for the Left and is an old ploy, but will it work for the Right? OK, color me “out of touch”.
Dutchboy #441975 January 31, 2025 5:59 pm 3
The current MSM take is that the air traffic control center was understaffed (19 instead of 30). Of course, Trump has not been in office long enough to cause such understaffing, which I understand has been a problem for years (thousands were canned for refusing the Covid shot).
Ostei Kozelskii #441979 January 31, 2025 6:18 pm 7
Understaffed because they couldn’t find enough nuggras and trannies who could fog a mirror?
BigJimSportCamper #441990 January 31, 2025 11:27 pm 2
Fog a radar screen…
Jeffrey Zoar #441985 January 31, 2025 6:51 pm 5
Watching the video of the chopper flying into the airliner, it’s hard to believe it was an accident. Right straight into the brightly lit object. No evasive action whatsoever.
NoName #441891 January 31, 2025 10:34 am 3
According to Urban Dictionary, it’s a portmanteau of ‘trans’ and ‘goon.’ Not related to “poltroon”. When I saw its face, I immediately thought he [she?] had the physiognomy of an highly unstable Cluster-B which would want to go out in a blaze-of-glory suicide. He/she drove the helicopter straight into the airplane. Has to have been either a Cluster-B Suicide, or else the activation of an MK Ultra asset. As usual, Anonymous Conservative has the best pictures & video: https://files.catbox.moe/1la102.mp4
Alzaebo #441897 January 31, 2025 11:20 am 11
Sorry, that was the crew chief, the pilot was Joe Ellis. Still, possibly 3 on board, so 2 or even all 3 might have been ‘special’.Joe Ellis, as a troon, gave a outraged rant on a radio show just before about how banning trans from the military would affect a troon’s military career.*Now, all trans industry stems from the transition drugs sold by one Israeli company, Teva Pharm; the clinics and drugs have ridden their wave of profitability and are about to tank, so the companies involved have almost certainly been short-sold up the wazoo. I wonder what the put options on Teva are selling for.Notably, the flight took off from right near Langley and started violating air rules in short order.I say it’s a message within a message: the inside message is to Trump, with plausible deniability applied to blaming Big Trans, past its expiration date and about to be thrown under the bus, to Big Diversity, also under the bus, while the Intel community (run by the State Dept., not Defense) and the neocons tell Trump and his renegade jewish cohorts to back off from international affairs, and stick to domestic turf.*Joe Ellis, the troon pilot they’re pinning the blame on, also conveniently discovered his Jewish Faith just recently. One message for the insiders, a different picture for the outsiders here.
ray #441906 January 31, 2025 11:46 am 1
I saw the troon, but also saw other reports referring to a ‘she’, as a co-pilot in training. No name tho. Perhaps this is the troon.
Alzaebo #441909 January 31, 2025 12:20 pm 2
Sorry, addendum, “…stick to domestic turf (AI, ‘natural resource’ grabs)… or we’ll start arranging accidents and blow you out of the sky.” Two jewish gangs are negotiating; one says, we’ll give up a bunch of the trans business to you, but you keep up your end on the war supply.
Alzaebo #441892 January 31, 2025 10:39 am 3
Ruh roh. RUH roh. Raggy, with all the chatter coming up about the ‘Sikorsky MATRIX autonomy system’ for remote control… on the very morning following the hearings for FBI,Director of National Intelligence, and Big Health… or, perhaps, a certain band of gangsters running two foreign wars, with a historic proclivity towards assassinating Presidents… Was this a warning to the Trump administration? ————————————— (Kudos to our stalwart yesterday who mentioned the possibility of cyber action. Remember, two Israeli companies sold software packages to the DoD that enabled forced remote control of commercial aircraft, the year before 9/11.)
Ostei Kozelskii #441896 January 31, 2025 11:20 am 13
In better times–even as recently as 20 years ago–they wouldn’t dare show their faces in public outside of deranged enclaves such as San FranCrisco and Greenwich Village.
Martin Luther #441901 January 31, 2025 11:31 am 7
Or the Vatican.
Zfan #441913 January 31, 2025 12:32 pm 3
Wanted to down vote you on impulse, but what the heck, here’s a thumbs up. Waiting for another Ratzinger!
Paintersforms #441925 January 31, 2025 1:30 pm 1
Need an Italian pope, just saying. They know how to run it.
Piffle #441951 January 31, 2025 4:05 pm -5
We have an Italian pope right now. Seriously, look up Pope Francis ethnic background. He even speaks Italian natively. That old ethnic grudge is part of the meltdown in American Catholic circles. Pope Francis probably will shake out to be one of our better popes.
Zaphod #441989 January 31, 2025 8:35 pm 0
Probably Neapolitan or from further South given the pattern of emigration to Argentina. So not a real Italian. It is a truth generally acknowledge that Argentina is what it is because it collected together the dregs of Naples and Spanish Galicia. Throw in the other Galicia and you’d have to nuke it from orbit.
Piffle #442002 February 1, 2025 11:18 am 0
“Probably Neapolitan or from further South given the pattern of emigration to Argentina. So not a real Italian.” Oh good grief. Now a native Italian speaker is not Italian enough. People are just never going to let a win happen.
Piffle #441953 January 31, 2025 4:07 pm 1
Ratzinger by his own admittance made a better right hand man to JPII than take the lead. While he meant well, his expansion of older liturgies only made all sorts of problems worst stateside. That’s just the one topic I’m familiar with on personal level. God bless them all, though, they have the weight of the world on their shoulders.
Steve #441995 February 1, 2025 10:10 am 4
“Ratzinger by his own admittance made a better right hand man to JPII than take the lead.” Humility.
Lavrov #441934 January 31, 2025 2:21 pm 0
Fake news? https://www.godlikeproductions.com/forum1/message5921444/pg1
ray #441900 January 31, 2025 11:28 am 16
‘Trump gave a presser after the chopper collided with the passenger jet in Washington and he put the blame on diversity. It is not the first time he has said something like this’ Good smoke signal. Hasn’t been in office 2 weeks. Co-pilot was female. Girlboss-in-training. If it’s as I suspect — pilot error — then 60-plus folks paid the ultimate price for living in Pretendland. For some reason the co-pilot is not being referred-to in MSM accounts. Yes, hmm.
Jeffrey Zoar #441915 January 31, 2025 12:38 pm 18
The longer it takes the msm to identify the pilot, the greater the likelihood that the rumor it’s a tranny is true. Kind of a Coulter’s law thing. Trump blaming “diversity” makes it more likely also. Why else would he have said that?
Jackson Dobsen #441987 January 31, 2025 8:03 pm 0
Identified as a “woman,” no last name. Maybe a tranny, maybe Hispanic or other ethnic given the name must be revealing of identity.
The Infant Pheonomenon #441972 January 31, 2025 5:31 pm 2
Deafening silence.
Ketchup stained griller #441984 January 31, 2025 6:47 pm 0
Family says “respect our privacy “
RealityRules #441924 January 31, 2025 1:18 pm 14
Another massive punch is in process of being throw. K. Leavitt is holding a press conference. They are setting the stage to replace the mainstream media. She announced that 10K applications of independent bloggers and podcasters have been received and that they may have to expand the room. She then let a podcaster lead with the first question.Caesar brought in a bunch of Gauls to the Senate. We can hope that Trump is going to bring in a bunch of American independent gumshoes and podcasters to replace the Gauls in the press room.This is fantastic. Wow! I love it.
Tars Tarkas #441931 January 31, 2025 2:07 pm 8
The people who got together to ban lightbulbs are fine with all these data centers using so much energy they need their own nuclear power plants. Most of these data centers are being used to spy on us.
3g4me #441935 January 31, 2025 2:32 pm 4
China won’t allow them on its territory; it buys ours instead and thus we waste our land and generate electricity to manipulate data for Chinese. We also take much of their extra population – certainly plenty of foolish Whites adopted their orphans. We are their colony in every sense that matters.
Compsci #441952 January 31, 2025 4:06 pm 2
The Chinese government restricted the adoption of children by the West in September 2024 if I remember. I believe Korea also a long time ago as well after an abuse incident.
nooneimportant #441898 January 31, 2025 11:22 am 8
“Every company [or nation] has a culture, and that culture is reinforced by management. Inevitably when new owners [or leaders] come in it means changes to the culture.” In other words, culture is downstream from politics rather than the reverse, pace what many on the right say. For example, the US government has championed homosexuality and various other paraphilic movements over the past few decades, and now most, if not yet all, mainline protestant churches have followed suit.
Hemid #441904 January 31, 2025 11:45 am 6
My stash of the specific banned lightbulb I depended on ran out a few weeks ago. The unbanned (so I assume something is very wrong with them) incandescents and trashy LEDs that are supposed to be equivalent aren’t similar at all. I’ve been trying all kinds of goofy color combinations to get back to seeing everything clearly without getting tired. Where I sit and work looks like a psychedelic whorehouse now. (Theory: Hideous pink-purple YouTube video lighting has caught on because “naturalistic” LED light looks even worse than that.)Trump’s threatened un-ban is weirdly unpopular among the MAGAs. The nerd doing the Redditackshuallyabout LED spectra (etc.) always wins the thread. Everyone enjoys when the government ruins someone else’s day—especially if they can say your day isn’treallyruined, you’re just insane. “Anemoia” was the word of the day in some calendar app, so everyone wants to use it as an insult. And of course conservatives love nothing more than to say, “The liberals are right about this.” (Or maybe they love “That’s what you get for not installing the world’s most expensive computer-controlled lighting array over your toilet” more.)The classic American lightbulb, unjustly exiled, was a dear symbol to the normalfag right. That’s why Trump is into it. But the movement has passed him by. Trumpism without Trump:If you value anything you’ve lost, you’re a loser.
Compsci #441923 January 31, 2025 1:09 pm 12
The American incandescent light bulb is an excellent example of why the government should stay out of the free market. The Fed’s demanded through their incandescence ban that everyone convert to fluorescent (CFL) lighting. CFL’s had mercury in them, which was politely ignored by regulators and most environmentalists. At that time, there were *no* LED light fixtures as we now know them. The mandated changeover therefore went to those gawd awful CFL’s.However, by the time of the imminent ban of incandescent bulbs, the market (now mostly CFL) began to fill up with the LED alternative. LED’s were more energy efficient and had better lighting color and smaller size for such applications which needed such. By the time of the ban, CFL sales had fallen off a cliff in favor of LED lighting. Since then, there has been great improvement in LED technology and they are as cheap as the incandescents ever were. (Yes, there were initial problems as described with different brands of LED lights as to brightness and color matching, but such is not as problematic today.)Long and the short, if government had not promoted a second rate technology, we’d have been better off (without the CFL’s) and no worse for energy efficiency today. LED was the correct “bet”, but government failed to guess correctly in choosing the technology.
Tars Tarkas #441936 January 31, 2025 2:35 pm 4
LEDs are inferior to most home applications, though very good for street lighting and commercial lighting. To the extent they saved energy, all and more of the savings have gone into data centers and bitcoin mining and the like. It’s the paradox of thrift.One thing that never happened with real light bulbs is them catching fire. I just had this happen to me (like a month ago) on a light that is always on in my house, even when I’m out. It literally caught fire and starting dumping smoke into my living room. These damned chinabulbs are loaded with cheap electronics and encased in plastic. Luckily I was home and unplugged the lamp and took it outside.
Compsci #441957 January 31, 2025 4:26 pm 4
I must disagree Tars. As to fires, so did incandescent if they touched flammable material and such. There is little reason to have fires, except perhaps in faulty LED electronics. I’ve never experienced such and find no reports outlining such concerns—indeed the opposite—citing the low temp’s of LED bulbs. However, the life expectancy of the bulb’s are pure BS. The electronics burn out just like incandescent filaments it seems, but they always cite the life span for the LED, which has a very long life span.My entire house is now pretty much LED, inside and out. Never a fire or smoke problem. Two observations wrt the low cost and variety of the lights:One, the expanded lighting made economical by the technology—inside and outside—is a thousand times more useful and appealing and helpful in enjoyment of the home. Two, given the cost of the electricity vs the energy consumption I simply use more lighting and therefore it is doubtful I save any electricity. This is a phenomenon often comment upon by economists. Seems to hold true for me.
Tars Tarkas #441983 January 31, 2025 6:35 pm 2
Real lightbulbs have a glass envelope and a steel base with a small high temp isolator and then the tungsten filament. Granted, they get pretty hot, but we were using them 100 years and so lamps and light fixtures are designed to deal with the heat. Cheap Chinese capacitors OTOH are flammable and all will eventually fail. Though, luckily, they have been nowhere near as long lasting as when first promised so the bulb dulls usually before the capacitor shorts (most bulbs are overdriving the LEDs). I just happened to be unlucky in that mine lasted long enough. If the plastic base had caught fire, it would have dripped flaming plastic onto anything below it. Great for spreading the fire.Many of the decorative bulbs are either not being made or difficult to find. Their color is terrible. I keep hearing how much better the newer ones are. After the incident with the flaming bulb, I ordered a few off Amazon and it was the harshest super bright white light I have ever seen in a light bulb.Frankly I wish I had the choice. I would likely use a mix of old incandescent bulbs and LED bulbs. LED lights are good for some things.“Never a fire or smoke problem.”I never had one either, till a month or 2 ago.
Compsci #442005 February 1, 2025 11:50 am 1
“I ordered a few off Amazon and it was the harshest super bright white light I have ever seen in a light bulb.”It’s a zoo out there. You need to pay careful attention to the color spec’s and even then, the Chinese lie their head off on these. As to bright white, or 5k+ Kelvin, these seem good for security and photography printing since they are close to daylight. For home use, or other decorative lighting, not so much.Perhaps Trump will role back the incandescent ban on typical home use (100w, 60w, etc) bulbs. Incandescent “designer” bulbs are still available. I had to find one because the LED dimmable I purchased created waay too much electrical interference.Finally, I note we may be talking past each other a bit. Old eyes like/need brighter and whiter bulbs.
james wilson #441946 January 31, 2025 3:45 pm 0
We were facing another intrusion into losing bet with the 500 billion taxpayer investment to map the human genome but which is being deep-sixed by Deepseek.
Compsci #442006 February 1, 2025 11:53 am 1
I’ve begun to use DeepSeek. When the topic comes up, I’ll comment further.
Mycale #441954 January 31, 2025 4:16 pm 3
I remember those CFL bulbs. I once dropped one in the house and shattered it. I had to clean it up, put it in a secure container, open the windows, and evacuate my apartment for a while to let it air out. It is crazy that the nanny state we have today foisted that tech upon people because I *know* that maybe 1 out of 100 people who broke one of these bulbs took these precautions.As to the energy savings of these bulbs vs. incandescent, wake me up when the Gaia crowd starts talking about how much energy adult websites use.
Compsci #442007 February 1, 2025 11:59 am 1
In my old dept, we had the same problem. However, I was smart enough to clean up and “shut up”. The policy of the university was to notify “Risk Management”. Never notify Risk Management if you know what’s good for you. They’ll tie you up and shut you down for any reason their regulatory minds can think (?) of. Once had a toilet overflow in an annex office area with carpet. They would not allow a carpet cleaning, but required a tear out and replace to the tune of a couple grand, vs perhaps a hundred bucks for the carpet cleaner.
Steve #441976 January 31, 2025 6:09 pm 1
Don’t forget that halogen and zenon were also acceptable “energy efficient” options, despite being maybe 20% better when they were new. Halogens lose light output as they age. Before the life expectancy had dropped 10%, they were worse than incandescents.
ray #441941 January 31, 2025 2:55 pm 6
I hated the years I studied and worked under fluorescents. Destroyed my eyes and exhausted them by noon each day. But they SAVE MONEY! Who cares about your vision?
james wilson #441947 January 31, 2025 3:46 pm 2
I bought 50 bulbs back in the day, still stocked.
Steve #441977 January 31, 2025 6:11 pm 1
I’ve still got around a thousand to pass down to my kids.
Gauss #441917 January 31, 2025 12:43 pm 5
Aren’t Musk’s DOGE and the tech bros generally invoking managerialism when they propose to being business expertise to running the government? Seems like a return to New Deal style management.
RealityRules #441922 January 31, 2025 1:03 pm 6
Yes. See my post above. It is a hyper-managerialism that is in opposition to nationalism. The key is if we can make them understand the value in keeping us a people with an overwhelming majority. That also hinges on if some powerful subset of them can have their megalomania and desire for adoration be swayed such that fulfilling duties to a people and a country is a supreme act of honor and nobility for their legacy. Right now, their egos are bent on building bots and building companies and thus wealth.Perhaps, the H1B fiasco and future fights we are going to have over who We are, will cause some to come over and be true nationalists. We have to all be ready for the many battles in this war ahead. I suspect what will really sway them is what already happened since Revolution IV in the 60s. That was not civic nationalism that was ethnic rivalry. Now that the majority is a minority, these people and their overlord internationalists went for the throat and tried to cement a permanent racial caste system. This will hinge on whether Musk, Andreesen … … understand the inevitability and instability of multi-racial societies. It will be hard, because they see non-American strivers behaving and doing the right things. They can think down the road decades and centuries in terms of technology, but can they do it for civilization? That is the problem with merchants and technocrats. They do not value human nature or civilization. They are not its backbone, they are heavily dependent upon it.That is the key. Can they come to understand and accept human nature and drop their belief that history is linear and only improvements in economic and technological factors are necessary and inevitable. They are utopians, so something will have to give.
ray #441940 January 31, 2025 2:52 pm 5
Techno-utopians is exactly what they are. Mostly godless too. From a long lineage of similar worldviews.
The Infant Pheonomenon #441974 January 31, 2025 5:48 pm 3
And what does it mean that at the heart of their notion (I won’t call it an idea) to “fix” FedGov, their *instinct* was to erect a new Cabinet-level FedGov Department?
Filthie #441993 February 1, 2025 8:42 am 3
At the risk of a severe beating from the dissidents, I will double down on that hated trope.ALL YA GOTTA DO to save our broken country is clean house. Get rid of the clowns. Fire the incompetent. Replace them with serious men. Sure – it’s hard to stand up to blue haired purple faced raging women… but you can’t let them run the show. Ditto for the legions of perverts and grifters.I’m old enough to remember when there were still serious people you could actually talk with from the other side of the great divide.Look – I get the heebeejeebies too. Trump is bulldozing away trash and garbage that has been lying around for so long… we’ve just gotten used to it and accepted it as part of the political landscape. A lot of us are so mired in it that we have deep doom pilled.It is time for cautious optimism. Trump is kicking the trash to the curb. Maybe it’s time we all did the same in our lives too?
Jeffrey Zoar #442028 February 2, 2025 10:30 am 0
While I may not be qualified to speak for everyone, I don’t believe that vanquishing the blue hairs is thought to be impossible. The problem is that after that’s done, the demographic math which they hath already wrought is insurmountable.
Compsci #442029 February 2, 2025 10:38 am 1
This. I’ve come to believe that Feminism is perhaps the greatest cause of our current plight, albeit many faceted. Clean house all you want, but if women have political power—as in the franchise—it will come to nought.
Bloated Boomer #442042 February 3, 2025 4:29 am 0
And jews… Then I’ll sign on.
Alzaebo #441888 January 31, 2025 10:18 am 3
This is such a great idea. Man, do we ever need to be brought up to speed as now.
TempoNick #441926 January 31, 2025 1:32 pm 1
He was blaming the pilot of the helicopter, wasn’t he? I didn’t realize that we had a diversity pilot. Figures.
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Lavrov #441932 January 31, 2025 2:21 pm 0
The trans person seemed to have survived the copter crash https://www.godlikeproductions.com/forum1/message5921444/pg1
the oneirocrat #441937 January 31, 2025 2:38 pm -1
Decent people’s average IQ is low – that’s how unethical agents rise to power.Corollary #1: an effective government should be one by the most clever and merciless against all those personifying the most abhorrent human traits. (Caveat: is it possible to have a large consensus about what those are?)Corollary #2: to extend the lifespan of an effective government kind people must be systematically barred from any real position of power.  (Caveat: What happens when the merciless in power reach the goal of making the number of bad actors manageable? Will they turn on the decent citizens?)Thank you for reading.
Compsci #442008 February 1, 2025 12:05 pm 2
Somewhat brings to mind the quote attributed to Adam Smith: “Mercy to the guilty is cruelty to the innocent”


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