The Great Economic Shakeup

Imagine a society made up of farmers who produce what they need to live but also trade extra to one another for things they do not produce. This is not the most efficient society, but as long as everyone is self-sufficient, it works. At the minimum, each farm produces enough food for the family, even in lean years. Perhaps like the Amish, they voluntarily come together on larger projects that are shared by everyone and individual projects that require a lot of hands.

One day, someone comes along with an offer to one of the farmers. Instead of that farmer trading with the other farmers, this stranger will buy the excess for what the farmer wants in trade. He makes this deal with other farmers and before long he makes his living as the middleman. He does the trades between the farmers, keeping a little extra for himself in the process. Before long there are others doing similar and they all live in what they call town.

Now, imagine all the farmers decide to quit farming altogether and move to town to be traders and merchants. Obviously, that cannot work as now there are no farmers to produce the things the traders are trading, and the merchants are selling. Some of the farmers can quit, but not all. Additionally, some can begin to specialize to the point where they are no longer self-sufficient. They now rely on the traders and merchants in town to get the things they need to live.

In other words, the original model works just fine, but it is not efficient. The farmers are all just above the sustenance line. The introduction of middlemen makes for more efficient use of farm labor, so everyone can do a little better. Specialization in farming and in trading increases productivity. Somewhere in this model there is a mix of farmers, traders, merchants, and specialization that attains the maximum amount of productivity for this society.

That productivity, however, must benefit everyone. Otherwise, we get the problem of the farmers looking at the townspeople and deciding they would prefer to be a trader, rather than a farmer. There also must be a balance with regards to specialization, as this could make the productive class overly dependent upon the middlemen, who can then maximize their profits from the productive class. A society with a small number of people controlling all the profit is inherently unstable.

Therein lies the problem Trump inherits in terms of the economy. Starting in the 1970’s with the microprocessor revolution, the American economy has been hellbent on maximizing efficiency. Wherever technology can increase the output from labor, it has been done, often overdone. In fact, the data shows that efficiency has gone up far faster than wages, so we tipped past the happy balance long ago. While the overall economy continues to grow, it grows only for a minority of citizens.

On top of that, we long ago blew past the balance between producers and middlemen described in that prior scenario. A couple of generations of Americans have been trained to work in the middleman economy, often doing busy work related to boutique beliefs like diversity of climate change. Meanwhile, the productive sector atrophied or was shipped off to other parts of the world. The American economy is more like a global counting house now, rather than a self-sufficient economy.

The global bank model has run its course. The rest of the world, for various reasons, is disconnecting from the American model. The rest of the world is unwilling to do like the farmers in that model and turn everything over to the middlemen. That town full of merchants and middlemen is noticing that the farmers are not coming to town to trade their goods as much they did in the past. Suddenly, the skim from the work of the farmers is getting too small to sustain the townsfolk.

It is not a perfect way to think about it, but it helps understand the economic problems Trump inherits as president. It is why he is convinced that shifting from a tax system focused on labor to one focused on trade is a winner. It will help shift labor from busy work in cubicles back to doing productive things because the cost of imports will rise relative to locally produced items. Foreign producers will adjust by investing in production inside America.

The practical problem Trump inherits is the American economic model evolved to favor the middleman over the producer. Over time it led to the imbalance we see between producers and facilitators. It also led to a narrowing of profit to a shrinking number of players in the economy. In some ways, the American economy has become a digital version of the Bronze Age palace economies in that everything flows through financial and information centers that operate as skimming houses.

Fixing the imbalances within the rules of the system is impossible. This post by an economist calling himself Jack Rasmus explains how the tools available to government no longer work to address the practical imbalances. The people controlling Joe Biden poured almost four trillion in extra money into the system, but it did nothing to mitigate the problem of shrinking middle-class budgets. Prices keep rising while wages remain static, which means most people are getting poorer.

The only way out of the current trap is through systemic changes. That is why Trump is fixated on tariffs as an economic and policy tool. On the one hand this brings costs back in line with prices, so the market regains some coherence. If the real cost of an item is in the price of the item, then people will reward the genuinely lower cost items. In the current model, the cost of cheap goods turns up in the loss of social capital, delayed family formation and, of course, high crime.

A simple example is prepared food. These are cheap for the consumer but are packed with hidden costs. The refrigeration units used to be made in America, but those plants were shipped abroad by the miracle or tariff free trades deals. Of course, the plants are often staffed with cheap foreign labor, the cost of which turns up in your property taxes, the crowded schools, and the healthcare system. That frozen pizza turns out to be vastly more expensive than the price on the box.

Multiply this out all over the economy and it is easy to see the problem. Fifty years ago, middle-class families could get by on one income. Today, it takes two-incomes which is why there are far fewer families. Ours is an economy that looks prosperous on the outside, but the internals are littered with hidden costs. The only way to remedy this is to bring the costs back to the front of that frozen pizza and that can only be done through systemic change.

There are three challenges. One is the small number of people profiting from the current model will fight reform. That is not insurmountable. Trump having some of the richest men on earth in his corner will help a great deal. The bigger problem is the transition cost, which will come in the form of recession. There is no escape from it. The early 1980’s were the cost of transitioning from the productive economy to the middleman economy, so expect similar as we transition back.

The biggest challenge in this project is a dysfunctional managerial class that sees any change as a challenge to their position. The middleman economy was very good for the sorts of people who have a long list of impressive sounding credentials but view tangible accomplishment as a disqualifier. The army of managers in the managerial state cannot survive a transition out of a middleman economy. Like the aristocracy in 18th century France, they will not go quietly.


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My Comment #441275 January 28, 2025 10:03 am 61
To make matters worse, the managerial class is heavily populated with members of protected groups. Trump will need to accept greater black unemployment as just one example. Since disparate impact is a sin, he will also be blocked by courts. There will also be a lot of cat ladies shrieking about not being able to afford to feed their cats. Ending an economic system geared to just shaving off money each step of the way will also be anti Semitic. That would be like a new Holocaust. I would love to see Trump do all these things.
george 1 #441288 January 28, 2025 10:31 am 27
Trump and the Tech Bros gave away the game last week. They mean to replace Americans with Indians and other groups. The middle men will be replaced with other more efficient middle men and managers. Of course the ultimate top tier “Middle Men” will remain the same however the lower tier ones will be replaced. Notice Trump doesn’t even think Americans can be good waiters.
Piffle #441293 January 28, 2025 10:40 am 13
It’s okay that Trump is possibly a transitional leader. In order for his changes to last, they have continue beyond 2029.
Compsci #441299 January 28, 2025 10:46 am 32
Exactly. So what took 2-3 generations to occur, takes 4 years to correct? Doubtful. The crux of the problem is not the ”cure” so much as the length of “treatment”. Will the patient endure, or die in the process?
ray #441359 January 28, 2025 1:34 pm 2
Yes. It’ll take Trump plus a Bump next time to turn this oceanliner.
NoName #441336 January 28, 2025 12:06 pm 11
My Comment:“the managerial class is heavily populated with members of protected groups”george 1:“They mean to replace Americans with Indians and other groups. The middle men will be replaced with other more efficient middle men and managers.”The knives have been sharpened for the Bobby Jr hearings:Robert Kennedy allies fear he could lose US Senate confirmation votehttps://freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/4293097/postsEverything we thought we knew about how the world works is nothing but mis-directional bunk & nonsense.There is one and only one agenda, and that agenda isGLOBAL DEPOPULATIONISM.V@xxines Uber Alles.Forget everything you thought you knew about society, and concentrate on keeping your family well-fed, with plenty of cardiovascular exercise, and NEVER AGAIN VISIT A PEDIATRICIAN NOR A “PROVIDER”.Live in the shadows, fly under the radar, keep your mouth shut, propagate a Pμrebl00ded family, and just wait patiently for The Great Die-Off.Nature Biotechnologyhttps://doi.org/10.1038/s41587-024-02528-1Received: 13 March 2024Accepted: 6 December 2024We demonstrate that intramuscularly injected LNPs carrying SARS-CoV-2 spike mRNA reach heart tissue, leading to proteome changes, suggesting immune activation and blood vessel damage.The Bobby Jr hearings comprise the single most important governmental & governing decisions in this nation since 1788.Either we get Bobby Jr, else pretty much everyone’s gonna perish.
Jeffrey Zoar #441342 January 28, 2025 12:39 pm 22
As I’ve said before, RFKJ is the one the rino senators will spend their political capital to deny. He would break too many prominent rice bowls. I’d prefer to be wrong.
The Wild Geese Howard #441350 January 28, 2025 1:09 pm 12
The medical industrial complex has more money than any single institution on Earth save for the military industrial complex. Either one could double what they are currently paying Congress without breaking a sweat.
The Infant Pheonomenon #441351 January 28, 2025 1:10 pm 18
Trump can make a recess appointment, but he’ll probably just replace RFK with a Pajeet. “I love India. Indians. Great people. Love ’em. I get along great with Modi.” And that’ll be that.
george 1 #441346 January 28, 2025 12:59 pm 2
At least the globalists at the top have in mind to eliminate most of us.
Ronehjr #441340 January 28, 2025 12:30 pm 2
As I was reading I was thinking the same thing. Maybe in one of Marvels many alternate universes the authors fantasies will play out, but not in this one.
Compsci #441290 January 28, 2025 10:33 am 13
The process will be slow to be sure, but if offshoring becomes unprofitable, it must be brought back to this shore. Note, the “great migration” of the twenties of Blacks from the South was a product of Northern factories needing labor in their plants. There seems to me to be a possibility for employment of the working class, perhaps at the expense of some middlemen—but this is a shift, not an elimination of jobs. Blacks may gain as well as lose.
Jannie #441294 January 28, 2025 10:41 am 12
Blacks would gain from a decent education system with less money sloshing around for overpaid union members and more focus on standards and discipline, teaching students skills and trades for success and independence rather than meaningless and useless college degrees.(Well, wouldn’t we ALL gain from that?)
LineInTheSand #441302 January 28, 2025 10:55 am 20
Do you really believe that overpaid union members are holding blacks down?
Compsci #441321 January 28, 2025 11:28 am 18
No, the teacher’s unions hold down the schools from achieving the best they can with the material they have. They do this because they don’t give a crap about students, but rather they promote the interests of their teachers above the students/parents interests. The list of support for this assertion is long, but has been touched on before. The teacher’s unions are politically extreme Left. They refuse to allow any alternative to public schools. They lobby consistently for higher salaries and less work load. They protect to the extreme incompetent teachers from accountability. What can go wrong?
Ostei Kozelskii #441345 January 28, 2025 12:59 pm 12
All unions are dedicated to the proposition that their members should get more pay for less work done more poorly.
Tars Tarkas #441408 January 28, 2025 3:41 pm 10
Kind of true, but I still support unions. Probably not in their current form (almost all of them support left wing politicians/parties), but they are about the best hope workers have when dealing with their bosses.
Dutchboy #441550 January 29, 2025 11:31 am 1
Anyone who has worked for a corporation knows why unions are necessary (‘though not ideal).
ray #441363 January 28, 2025 1:42 pm 25
You’ll have to smash the AFT and the NEA. AFT is an affiliate of the AFL-CIO, but it’ll have to be done anyway. Concurrently, reduce the female percentage of teachers and professors to 10%, with these concentrated primarily in K through second grade. After that, boys need and deserve male teachers and male guidance.
Compsci #441396 January 28, 2025 2:59 pm 20
Funny you should mention men in teaching positions for the appropriate modeling to young men—especially in HS.I remember now my years in HS—way back when. My chem teacher was a WWII vet who rebuilt Sherman’s in the rear while in Europe. He had stories….My teacher in World Affairs (or whatever they called it) was a fighter pilot recently retired after a few tours in Vietnam. He had stories….My PE/Typing instructors were a couple of Marines with Vietnam tours. They didn’t have stories. They just treated us like boots in basic. PE became geared to passing the current Marine Core Physical Fitness exam all recruits in those days had to pass and therefore in their class we had to pass. Shit, I was like 14-15 year old! I guess he figured we were all potential canon fodder, so get your head straight and your ass in gear. We did!Ray, you’ve never been so right…I was blessed to live in those days.
ray #441412 January 28, 2025 3:53 pm 2
Me too, very blessed. Those days are coming back to this world. If America doesn’t want to be part of that she will be left behind.
rasqball #441417 January 28, 2025 4:19 pm 0
As I just pointed out to my 18 y.o. college freshman son, it only recently occurred to me that I had only ONE female teacher between 9th grade (HS was an old-time Jesuit prep school) and my last semester of college.ONE!(A nice woman; I was a star pupil in her Russian Lit. class, and she was “nudging me toward a continued relationship with The Academy.” But I wanted to go join the World of Grownups, and she became – get this! – unreconcilably miffed at my nonchalance and desire to finish my degree “on schedule” – that is, in four years. I wanted out, at least in the short term, and she was not happy about things as they were ;-).Anyway, it’s becoming obvious to me that my lad prefers “the male communication style”, and has trouble with nudges, yentas, and feelsters in the classroom.
Tars Tarkas #441407 January 28, 2025 3:38 pm 3
I don’t necessarily disagree about the unions, but is that a bad thing? Unions represent the teachers, that’s why they exist. The kids have plenty of representation and advocates.It’s easy to stand outside the system and ‘point and shriek’ about unions like the average Republican. But they ain’t the ones surrounded by 30 kids all day. When those kids are from the inner city, it ain’t exactly an easy environment. In some sense, this is what they signed up for, but they also were sold a bill of goods in university about how the diverse keeds are just misunderstood future scholars.There is research showing that kids who apply for a voucher but don’t get it do as well on average as the kids who apply and get it. (Ryan Faulk covers this pretty well) Plus, it’s very misleading to compare charter and private schools to public schools. Charter and private schools are cherrypicking students almost by definition. The 2 parent families who really care about their kid’s education send them to private school or get them into charter schools if possible. While every crackhead with 3 keeds all by differnet men send their kids to the public school.The more privatization of education, the worse this becomes. The public schools cannot get rid of bad students either. They become a dumping ground of the undesirables.
rasqball #441419 January 28, 2025 4:26 pm 5
I like unions, too, but I despise Union Bosses, a “type” that invariably tends to be among THE Crookedest…Anyway, education, past basic numeracy/literacy, should be discouraged for a large (but indeterminate) percentage of the population.Sorry, but…not sorry.
Tars Tarkas #441437 January 28, 2025 6:46 pm 5
I agree. Up until the 50s, the HS graduation rate was in the 40s.` While I am sure there were economic hard cases in that drop-out rate, most dropped out when their ability to learn new material hit a brick wall determined by a combination of work ethic and IQ. Insisting on keeping kids in school is probably the single largest problem in public education.
Compsci #441454 January 28, 2025 9:30 pm 6
“Insisting on keeping kids in school is probably the single largest problem in public education.” Yep, you’ve hit on it. We keep students in school who should not be there. Thus disrupting the education of all others and the lowering of standards so that we can pretent the “races are equal”. Couple that with court mandated “mainstreaming” of students with physical and emotional disability and you have a recipe for mediocrity.
Steve #441484 January 29, 2025 9:35 am 2
I grew up around a lot of dropouts from that era, and for the most part, it was not that they couldn’t handle it, but rather that they could not come up with a reason to learn junk that they would never need in their chosen career. At that time, mostly ranching and wrenching. Somewhere along the line we got the nutty idea that kids actually need to know something called “social studies” and it’s been downhill from there.
Compsci #441453 January 28, 2025 9:25 pm 2
All you’ve said is true. The good teachers are caught in the middle. I am at heart not “anti-union”, but there are some over-reaches I have problems with that I won’t go over. I have worked in union shops myself and seen both sides.
Carrie #441475 January 29, 2025 8:34 am 3
Agree and can confirm.As I suggested above: maybe there is some kind of minimal level of public school for the lowest achievers that becomes a feeder school for the vocations such as janitor or garbage man, for our higher brethren.And then the vocational schools for Our People are completely separate institutions, where it’s a straight meritocracy for engineers or carpenters or plumbers.im just spitballing some ideasBut I know that current Millienal elem teachers did NOt sign up for 2-3 Sha’qwans in their class, taking up all the teaching / discipline time while 17 other Bobbys, Chens, and Marios manage to sit quietly and want to learn.
Carrie #441476 January 29, 2025 8:35 am 4
Sorry– spellcheck on phone changed my “jogger brethren” description to “higher brethren.” Coincidence? probably not.
Carrie #441474 January 29, 2025 8:25 am 2
Compsci:I agree with you on the hard Left teachers unions.But with regard to them lobbying for a lower workload: that may be true (I am not in one), BUt I can confirm that teachers in the gubmit schools (elem) are having more and more laws and regs pushed on them that they are supposed to implement.And it suffocates teacher creativity and ability to focus on what they want to do and / or see that individual students need.But at this point, the ones who are in the classroom are at minimum Millenials, and so have never experienced the freedom of teaching what one desires.IMO, the only way to make any of this better is to gradually eliminate public schools, and the DoE, and use the tax money for parents to choose a private school (voucher system.)AND– it should be separated by both rayycce and other factors. Like maybe have vocational feeder schools for janitors, for our jogger brethren.
Tars Tarkas #441317 January 28, 2025 11:21 am 36
The problem isn’t that we don’t have a decent education system for them. This is just a different version of blame whitey for everything. Like we’re somehow withholding education from them because we are mean and we hate them and setting them up for failure.If we set up an experiment where we bussed 100% of the kids in the ghetto to a “good school” and bussed 100% of the kids from the “good school” to the school in the ghetto, the school in the ghetto would become a top performing school. The “good school” would become one of the worst performing schools.The problem ain’t the school, it’s the kids.
Ostei Kozelskii #441349 January 28, 2025 1:01 pm 7
I’ll tell ya’ something, Tars. You can’t polish a turd.
The Infant Pheonomenon #441353 January 28, 2025 1:15 pm 13
Bingo! And antecedent to the kids, it’s the baby mamas and baby daddies. It’s a whole culture; a whole mentality. And it’s richly subsidized by cash transfer payments, and when you subsidize a thing, you necessarily get more of it.
3g4me #441362 January 28, 2025 1:40 pm 13
And that ‘whole culture’ is not something that can be taught or replaced; it is a product of their genetics. Assimilation (of different races and religions) is a lie.
rasqball #441420 January 28, 2025 4:37 pm 0
Not entirely: predominantly, perhaps, but not entirely. From my perspective, I simply want to minimize exposure to profound, antisocial dysfunction. (PS – assimilation CAN (maybe…) work in some instances,in proper measures,and with varying degrees of success, as i have born witness, but never, never, in a feminized culture, as there is inevitably a need for “the impetus of the blackjack”. And mommy don’t like that.)
3g4me #441432 January 28, 2025 5:57 pm 6
There are exceptions to everything, of course, but they do not disprove the generalization. Plus no one wants to pin down what ‘assimilation’ actually means. Selena Gomez’s (crying about the deportation of “my people”) father is the anchor baby of Mexican mestizos. Is she “assimilated?” Usha Vance was born to ‘legal’ Indian immigrants, so her half-White children are second generation on her side. But who watched them while she worked? Vance’s mother was inrehab, so I am assuming they’ve had a heavy Indian cultural influence via their maternal grandparents, whoraised their mother as a ‘devout Hindu.” Will they be ‘assimilated?”
Tars Tarkas #441440 January 28, 2025 6:59 pm 4
You are simply refusing to accept reality. Could it be less dysfunctional? Possibly. But the reality is, the environment is not a separate thing that can be isolated and changed.To the extent we can make improvements to the environment, nobody would be allowed to do it. We are doing the exact opposite of improving the environment. Black kids cannot be disciplined in schools, for example. Any attempt at discipline is framed as White supremacy!What they should have is a zero tolerance policy. You disturb the class, you’re expelled. You fight or sell drugs in or around school, you are arrested and expelled. Threaten or hit a teacher, you’re arrested and expelled. Unfortunately, even if we could do these things, we cannot help them at home. We cannot choose their friends and acquaintances. We cannot change the neighborhood they live in.
Tired Citizen #441465 January 29, 2025 12:09 am 5
Ding Ding Ding! Winner here! You cannot force a retarded savage to function in a western, White and civilized society. They not only can’t live the way we want them to live, but they don’t WANT to live that way. They do not belong anywhere near White people or their lands.
The Infant Pheonomenon #441352 January 28, 2025 1:11 pm 1
Yes, IFF such a thing were possible, but it is not.
Johnny Ducati #441280 January 28, 2025 10:16 am 35
I would love to see manufacturing return. We lost our best tool shops to outsourcing. The company I worked for even set up Chinese shops with the latest machine tools. I thought the corporate officers should have been strung up for their treachery.
Marko #441272 January 28, 2025 9:54 am 28
From what I’ve seen in the past week or so, it appears there are a whole lot of people now who are open to Trump’s reforms. We haven’t seen the caterwauling like we did in 2016 or 2020. There are still a lot of kooks and managerial goons out there for sure, like there are still people who watchSurvivor, but they do not appear to be overwhelming like they did a few short years ago. We are witnessing both a vibe shift and a preference cascade, so the managerial goons will fall in line. If Trump doesn’t step on his dick like he did for his last administration.I think a big test will the cascade of sob-stories and self-righteous moralizing coming from the deportations. If these fall flat, I think reform might be easier than we thought.
Evil Sandmich #441273 January 28, 2025 9:58 am 43
One result of the stolen election was that the left went from “very lazy” in making their case, to not even bothering. That and eight plus years of everyone watching these scolds burn down cities and castrate kids has completely destroyed what little moral claims they had to push their agenda.
Jack Dobson #441279 January 28, 2025 10:15 am 20
This. Also, the safety net of a controlled, uniform media has ended and they have lost the ability to make actual arguments.
Piffle #441295 January 28, 2025 10:41 am 20
The sheer speed and volume of the EOs has left them without a front to focus on.
ray #441370 January 28, 2025 2:01 pm 7
Donald was prepared this time. Last time, no.
Tarl Cabot #441283 January 28, 2025 10:21 am 22
Joe Biden turned out to be the perfect personification of late stage liberalism: corrupt and intellectually exhausted. With the passing of the gerontocracy, it is incompetent hysterics all the way down. The real problem in short to medium term will be the cryptos and conversos on our own side, determined to wreck the transformation, as they did with Reagan, Gingrich and the Tea Party.
LineInTheSand #441286 January 28, 2025 10:28 am 14
“a whole lot of people now who are open to Trump’s reforms”“We are witnessing both a vibe shift and a preference cascade” Asking everyone, do you personally know anyone who is more open to Trump and what he represents now than they were in 2016? I don’t. Who are these masses of people who are suddenly open to Trump? Hispanic men? Californians who lost their homes to fire? I hear about this supposed preference cascade but I can’t find any evidence of it with actual people. Maybe I’ve overlooked the overwhelming evidence.
Wolf Barney #441304 January 28, 2025 11:01 am 8
It’s more the disgust with the left than the love for Trump.
rasqball #441424 January 28, 2025 4:41 pm 4
Yes.Plus, it’s very difficult for folkz to “come clean”, as this would be an acknowledgement of having been wrong, and…
DLS #441311 January 28, 2025 11:14 am 28
It’s not just a conversion of people from anti to pro Trump, but also the degree of change in lukewarm supporters. I know a lot of normies that were receptive to the Trump message, but could not support the messenger because of his crudeness. Now they are all in, openly laughing at the left, and joyfully anticipating what Trump will do next. Just one example is the media criticizing the J6 pardons for people who “assaulted the police.” Normies used to fall for this nonsense, but now they see right through it.
Marko #441318 January 28, 2025 11:27 am 6
Among the hoi-polloi, I don’t see much difference. If you’re at a certain age or still consume mainstream media, you have the same opinions of Trump that you did in 2016. I was referring to the non-sack-of-potatoes people, the growing number of influencers who are at least agnostic towards Trump this time around. Some are even apologetic like Zuck and Chris Cilizza. I think that the madness we’ve experienced was one of those things that happens from time to time, when a moral crusade looks unstoppable, and either scares people or ignites the bully in other people, and good men do nothing. Now the good men are free to vent their frustrations, and I think we’re going to see a lot of mea culpas in the next years. We don’t have to accept them, but it would be good to see.If Trump and his team stay the course, and the GOP doesn’t pussy out (like the Florida Republican legislature is doing; bad sign).
Steve #441443 January 28, 2025 8:06 pm 0
What exactly is the FL doing that is a bad sign?
Compsci #441327 January 28, 2025 11:39 am 6
Well, anecdotes are not data.I tend to agree, except for the fact that Trump did get a goodly share of the vote—and better than 2016. Now these people might just be disgruntled with the last 4 years and Trump was the only alternative in our two party system. That I give you.The fear I have is that an effective Trump tenure will entail pain and the electorate is fickle. Who runs for reelection on the promise of more pain? Worse, is there enough juice in the squeeze for another Potemkin “Morning in America” 2028 campaign?Effective, lasting change—if it comes at all—seems to me a process of more than a single term of the Presidency. Our Founders designed it that way, they just couldn’t imagine the degeneracy we’ve fallen into.
OrangeFrog #441341 January 28, 2025 12:36 pm 18
LITS,I’ll give an English perspective, for what it’s worth. Put simply, during Trump’s 2016-2020 tenure, a knew of a large number of people who loathed him. Every mention of his name would have them throw up their hands in anger: “What has the world come to!”, “Who put this idiot in charge!”…Fast-forward to the current time, those same people are discussing the EOs in quite a modest tone. People who used to just say “Drumpf” or “Trump” now address him as President Trump; in addition, a lot of the heated rhetoric has gone.Furthermore, and perhaps even more incredibly, in my work sector – which is ‘Tech’ (a stupid abbreviation, we must make things short and sweet so today’s NPCs understand it) – those very same people are makingalmost no noise at all about the EOs. And about Trump. They may disagree, and occasionally sat so publicly, but their tone is markedly more reserved.Of course, you asked if these people were now open to Trump, and I don’t believe so. But within this admittedly small sample set, their approach is now fair more lenient and, dare I say it,tolerant!Perhaps they’re relieved that WWIII didn’t start with BOM in 2016 like we wuz told, who knows. But it’s an interesting thing to watch.I pray you and yours are well.
The Infant Pheonomenon #441358 January 28, 2025 1:34 pm 7
I suspect that a lot of the silence or “tolerance” arises from fear of prosecution and imprisonment. And when the opinion leaders and the trend setters are cowed into relative silence, those who take their cues from the opinion leaders are too unsure of themselves to say much. Also, the shenanigans involved in the “nomination” of Kamala–“Yeah, we forced you all to vote for Biden in the primaries, and now we have taken him out of the running and, yeah, we really don’t need or even want your votes”–no doubt cost the Dems a lot of votes and soured the “undecided” voters on party loyalty. The engine of the Democrat Party seems to be running on fumes. There just might not be a lot of fuel left to kick up a fuss about EOs or anything else.
The Infant Pheonomenon #441354 January 28, 2025 1:19 pm 2
Agreed. One has only to look at the number of votes that Kamala got.
3g4me #441364 January 28, 2025 1:42 pm 9
Line: You’re seeing a lot of wishful thinking and generalized assertions in this comment section of late. Take it all with a heaping spoonful of salt.
CorkyAgain #441413 January 28, 2025 3:57 pm 10
I’m out here in a suburb of the Soviet of Seattle and wish I could say the neighbors I know are more open-minded than they were in 2016.There are some signs of life in some of the local press (e.g., mynorthwest.com) and bloggers/tweeters like Katie Daviscourt. But it still feels very much being like being behind enemy lines, where we have to watch what we say if we don’t want to provoke a swarm of leftist scolds. I’m not afraid of that myself, but the arguments with them are never productive and always so very tiresome.I wish I could move back to the midwest where I grew up around the Iowa/Illinois border but my ex has the kids and I want to stay near them.Edit: I might do that anyway. She’s got them thoroughly indoctrinated into the cult and it’s been years since they came to visit their old man with his troglodyte views. I have half a mind to disinherit the ungrateful little … would that make me a stereotypical Boomer, taking it all with me into my grave?
Tired Citizen #441466 January 29, 2025 12:11 am 4
The only group that voted for Trump was White men. Once they’re phased out you won’t see this again.
Strong men make #441315 January 28, 2025 11:21 am 5
“just wait til your father gets home”…
ray #441371 January 28, 2025 2:07 pm 1
Oh yeah.
Ostei Kozelskii #441430 January 28, 2025 5:33 pm 2
I just shuddered involuntarily.
Compsci #441285 January 28, 2025 10:27 am 23
What goes around, comes around I guess. This problem of “middlemen” has been talked about since the Nixon era. Remember Earl Butz?…”Earl Butz, a prominent and influential U.S. Secretary of Agriculture, was known for advocating agricultural efficiency and large-scale farming practices. During his tenure in the 1970s, he often used visual demonstrations, including a loaf of bread, to illustrate the distribution of costs in agricultural production.On talk shows and public appearances, Butz famously held up a loaf of bread to highlight how little of its retail cost actually went to farmers. He pointed out that only a few cents of the total costs often quoted as around *four cents* represented the farmer’s share. The demonstration was intended to emphasize the economic challenges farmers faced, the value they provided in the food chain, and the efficiency of American agriculture in keeping consumer food prices relatively low.” (ChatGPT)The demo aptly represented what Z-man sagely points out today. Everyone except the farmer is rightfully considered a “middleman”, or perhaps more aptly a parasite grifting off the labor and productivity of the farmer. Back in those days, the four cents on a loaf of bread might have been between 10-15% of the cost of the bread purchased in the supermarket. Things have not gotten better since, I fear.
RDittmar #441298 January 28, 2025 10:46 am 18
Earl Butz!! “Loose shoes, tight p***y and a warm place to sh*t.”: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J5Sn-A7D76o
Compsci #441310 January 28, 2025 11:10 am 8
Well, that too. But Butz was a great spokesperson for the farmer of the time. Perhaps the last.
CorkyAgain #441470 January 29, 2025 3:44 am 1
Wendell Berry would disagree. Great spokesman for agribusiness maybe, but not the farmer.
Dutchboy #441402 January 28, 2025 3:15 pm 2
I believe one of his mantras was “get big or get out!”
Ostei Kozelskii #441431 January 28, 2025 5:35 pm 0
A phrase also known to pass the lips of a horny dame…
Jannie #441333 January 28, 2025 11:53 am 13
The French government encourages “Farm-to-Table” buying, where consumers cut out the middleman and purchase directly from farmers. It’s still possible here in the USA: for instance, drive through the Southern California countryside and you can buy big bags of oranges, grapefruits, avocados, etc. for just a few bucks (then go check out their prices in the urban supermarkets!).
Compsci #441387 January 28, 2025 2:35 pm 8
Yeah, but today the American housewife is too damn lazy or too damn busy with her out of the home job. When I lived over in Europe, the housewife went to market every day for fresh food for lunch and dinner. My aunt had one of those new fangled refrigerators which was about 2-3 cubic feet and held a bottle of Coke in it. Nothing was stored and frozen. Fresh food daily was purchased, prepared, and eaten—that day. There might be a bag of biscuits for tea in the pantry.Aside from not preparing food each day for a meal, the American housewife buys her groceries weekly and stores them in the frig or pantry. Hence everything is processed and prepared, like food in an bomb shelter, to last forever.
ray #441372 January 28, 2025 2:09 pm 2
I miss the Butzer.
Arshad Ali #441277 January 28, 2025 10:08 am 21
“The only way to remedy this is to bring the costs back to the front of that frozen pizza and that can only be done through systemic change.”That’s a good way of describing Trump’s tariff policy.I’ve been reading Rasmus off and on for the last fifteen years or so (off for the last few years). I see he has a slew of new books out.But returning to the tariff policy. I think it can only work with consistent and determined effort, and over a time span of decades About 35 years back or so, an HBS professor wrote a book titled, “The Competitive Advantage of Nations.” If I can borrow this terminology, the USA’s competitive advantage is not great. Other countries have more well-trained workforces. They have stronger and more effective symbioses between government and their oligopolies. They already have up-and-running factories. And comparing like for like, their infrastructure is better and labor costs lower. The truth of the matter is that over the last quarter century or so, other countries have stolen a march, maybe two marches, over the USA, which has squandered precious resources on futile wars of choice and has seemingly operated without a national plan. To me the situation is too reminiscent of Britain, which has already trodden this path of decline and decay.
thezman #441282 January 28, 2025 10:17 am 33
We also have some natural advantages. Our workforce is vastly more productive than you see in Asia and South America. We still retain much of the high trust infrastructure that does not and cannot exist in Asia or Latin America. We also have vast natural resources. One of the reasons Russia weathered the sanctions storm is the had rebuilt the agricultural sector to be self-sufficient and not just for basics. Russian grocery stores put ours to shame with the bounty of products on the shelves at remarkably low prices.They also rebuilt their energy sector to first take care of domestic needs and then export needs. Russia is a country with cheap food and cheap energy, which means a relatively prosperous people, despite the sanctions. We can learn a lot from what they did following the collapse of communism. Putin has hinted at this when asked about pending talks with Trump. He points out that America is like Russia in that it produces lots of food and energy and consumes lots of food an energy.
Piffle #441300 January 28, 2025 10:47 am 10
The endless negativity on the prospects of the US gets a little old. We’ve lacked the will protect our borders in every angle imaginable. That’s not the same as having all the resources themselves disappear.
Compsci #441316 January 28, 2025 11:21 am 11
True, we have a tendency to talk a lot of Black pills, but can you blame us? Most of the conversation as I interpret it is valid consideration of the obstacles to a prolonged program of needed reform based upon past history, most of which is pretty spot on.
Paintersforms #441356 January 28, 2025 1:27 pm 6
Where there’s a will, there’s a way. That used to be a quintessentially American attitude, right? Still is, I’m sure, but we have this demographic problem in the meantime. Seriously, we Americans have let ourselves be smothered, and I’m convinced that’s the most of it.
Apex Predator #441414 January 28, 2025 4:05 pm 12
Africa is at least as resource rich as the US in many areas and vastly more so in others, yet much of those resources remain untouched and will remain untouched in perpetuity unless outsiders harness them. This is because Africans lack –thee– ‘resource’ required to get the other resources– Intelligence. And all that goes along with it, high trust society, social capital, technology, etc.Now that America more closely resembles Brazil with it’s vast swirl of muddy adulterated genetic misfits which is rapidly heading to completely brown who, pray tell, will be doing all this resource mining? Guillermo? Juanita? Tyrone? Shaniqua? Hardeep? Pooja? You tell me…If you are not up nights about the -primary- resource, Whiteness / Intelligence needed to harness nature and its raw materials you are living in griller delusion.Russia was able to turn the corner quickly because Russia is full of Russians. The US is full of… mutts.The only solution is, paradoxically, the Brazilian solution where the ‘natural order’ asserts itself and the whites rule over all others. But Brazilians don’t have tribal influence and a history of Puritanism inverting the natural social order. Until that is resolved, all the rest is conjecture. The competency crisis is real and accelerating with each new brown tidal wave that arrives or is born here.
Tired Citizen #441467 January 29, 2025 12:18 am 5
“Russia was able to turn the corner quickly because Russia is full of Russians. The US is full of… mutts.” Nail on head. “America”, or whatever we call this dump now was able to make comebacks in the past because it was still a White country. Not only is it not a White country any longer, it isn’t a real country at all. It is the world’s flea market and strip mall.
Steve #441486 January 29, 2025 9:40 am 0
“It is the world’s flea market and strip mall.” Strip joint, you mean.
WillS #441335 January 28, 2025 12:01 pm 12
The ability to be a truly independent country is one of our great strengths. If we closed the borders and focused on fixing our house we could do it in a generation with good leadership and the right ideology. We have a very abundant country. Only a wealthy country can fail at the magnitude we are seeing. We have allowed bad leadership to run the ship aground. The 1793 solution makes more sense the more time goes by and the more information that comes out. Excellent article Z.
The Infant Pheonomenon #441365 January 28, 2025 1:45 pm 11
The root problem is the superstition of “equality” and that problem’s attendant problem, which is universal suffrage.
Dutchboy #441404 January 28, 2025 3:18 pm 5
We also have the ability to be a country at peace (with no powerful countries on our borders) but our rulers will not have it.
Steve #441446 January 28, 2025 8:19 pm 0
The 1793 solution? I checked around and there are a few items, could you possibly elaborate?
Steve #441490 January 29, 2025 9:49 am 1
I’m certain he’s talking the French Revolution, but I sure hope that’s not in our future. That didn’t turn out very well for anyone. Heck, before long, France was full of French people. That would be a terrible fate to befall America. Can you imagine? Berets, baguettes, harsh cigarettes, that obnoxious attitude. And we’d be so poor we wouldn’t have our own language. Just a stupid accent. (He’s right! We all talk like Maurice Chevalier! Au-hau-hau.)
WillS #441571 January 29, 2025 12:27 pm 0
The permanent removal of the elite through physical means.
Tired Citizen #441468 January 29, 2025 12:19 am 4
At least half the country isn’t an American, and they don’t want to fix anything. Very difficult to do without any binding culture or commonality, no?
WillS #441572 January 29, 2025 12:28 pm 0
True, true. It is possible but very difficult.
DLS #441314 January 28, 2025 11:18 am 20
Those other countries also don’t have 7.5 million coin clippers that punch way above their weight in political influence.
Arshad Ali #441331 January 28, 2025 11:48 am 6
The Fuhrer once described Britain as a nation of shopkeepers. Something similar has happened to the USA.
ray #441382 January 28, 2025 2:28 pm 2
‘grocery store clerks’ — Apocalypse Now
Compsci #441391 January 28, 2025 2:42 pm 5
My favorite comment (slight) is that we specialize in the USA in “doing each other’s laundry”. 😉
Dutchboy #441405 January 28, 2025 3:22 pm 1
I believe that was a different Führer: Napoleon.
ray #441381 January 28, 2025 2:27 pm 1
Plus 10% for the Big Guy. Wait, he’s not president anymore? LOL Pay up, jack.
Pequeña #441334 January 28, 2025 11:54 am 13
I think the British had fewer street poopers and destroyed cities.Less diversity and child mutilation also.I wonder what the IQ of Britain in 1960 was compared to the US today? Or crime rates:US murder rate is over 4x that of Britain or even France. For better and for worse the path the US is on is unique.
Jack Dobson #441338 January 28, 2025 12:17 pm 6
Britain and to a greater extent continental Europe are in far better shape than the United States on the metrics that matter over the long run: demographics, life expectancy, and so forth. The GDP Bros make shallow and hollow arguments.
Steve #441442 January 28, 2025 7:59 pm 4
I don’t think so. Somehow, we’ve managed to keep the influx of head choppers to a dull roar. Our diversity is downright docile in comparison. And their legal system is much more dysfunctional, locking people up for sharing social media posts saying rape is a bad thing.
Mr. Generic #441322 January 28, 2025 11:29 am 17
“The bigger problem is the transition cost, which will come in the form of recession. There is no escape from it.”People keep saying this, but I just don’t believe it is true. I think the past 5 yearswerethe recession, just that the government/media/economists have lied about it, and pushed fraudulent statistics to try to gaslight people.Ignore the government pronouncements and look at what has happened with the real economy since the covid psy-op was launched:The prices of food, energy, housing and healthcare continue to sky-rocket — way faster than any increase in wagesCrime has sky-rocketedALL the new jobs have gone to foreigners. The number of actual Americans employed has decreased and remains below pre-covid levels.Many of the “employed” Americans are working two part-time jobs and or “gig” work to survive.Small business and even tech startup formation have cratered. Virtually all business investment now goes to the A.I. bubble (you are dead-on with the “palace economy” comparison)Most of us are old enough to have lived through multiple recessions and we know what they look and feel like. Everyone outside the “palace” knows the economy is terrible.Up-ending everything will not cause short-term pain, it will bring immediate relief. When you are constantly being *cheated* on every transaction, doing fewer of them will immediately be to your benefit!
Jeffrey Zoar #441324 January 28, 2025 11:33 am 6
It kind of becomes a question of whether they can levitate their stock market in perpetuity, through any kind of economic conditions. They are certainly better at that than they used to be.
The Infant Pheonomenon #441374 January 28, 2025 2:14 pm 3
If Trump carries out his tariff threats, the stock market will spank him. Hard.
Alzaebo #441418 January 28, 2025 4:21 pm 1
When you got ’em by the balls, their hearts and minds will follow.
Alzaebo #441416 January 28, 2025 4:15 pm 4
I’m anticipating financial war between different nation’s AIs. China’s Deepsix AI versus Fink’s Aladdin, for instance, would be a battlefield innovation with as much impact as drones and ‘hypersonic’ rocketry. High-frequency trade wars and AI commercial lawfare might hand our ruling class a set of problems that would slap that smirk right off their face.
Steve #441444 January 28, 2025 8:10 pm 0
They can. It’s taken decades to get over this fascination with Keynes, and have been dragged kicking and screaming into accepting more classical economics, especially the Cantillon Effect. I think the original design of the Fed was based on Cantillon’s insights, but being greedy bastards, wanted all the things NOW. The current managers are much more patient. The wildcard is Congress. When they pull more moronic stunts like COVID Cash, that can’t but push consumer inflation.
Lakelander #441425 January 28, 2025 4:58 pm 3
The most discouraging aspect of the recessionary period since Trump left office in 2021 is that the US still managed to add nearly $10 trillion in national debt with ever-increasing borrowing rates. The US is a can kickers paradise…until it isn’t.
tashtego #441325 January 28, 2025 11:34 am 15
I like all the attention being given to that obscenely wealthy Spanish girl for crying on video about her people. Putting aside that she’s obviously 100% European, everyone understands what she means by her people and it helps normalize whites using the same language about our people.
Compsci #441377 January 28, 2025 2:17 pm 8
She is a good example of genetically deficient spiteful mutants as well as feminine emotional absurdity.
tashtego #441394 January 28, 2025 2:46 pm 4
I think she has good female genetics, she has just spent her whole life living in a social world where pretending to care a great deal about ‘the other’ is rewarded and not doing so is punished. The contrast in attitude with Spaniards that actually live among and rule over that population is amusing. This girl’s very existence demonstrates half a millennia of hard core dedication to racial awareness.
3g4me #441439 January 28, 2025 6:56 pm 3
She’s not Spanish. I’veread that her mother is of Italian heritage born in Texas, and her father is the anchor baby of illegal Mexican mestizos.
Tashtego #441445 January 28, 2025 8:14 pm 1
I guess nothing in this fallen world is perfect. As the enemy likes to point out, don’t let facts get in the way, the important thing is that it could be true.
TomC #441274 January 28, 2025 10:03 am 15
And what if these middlemen started an agricultural futures market, which date back to Sumer? Now I can make a living just trading futures. And maybe an ethnic group will specialize in this. Just a thought experiment.
Jack Dobson #441278 January 28, 2025 10:13 am 13
Sharp. Two contradictory things are true:Massive economic reform, which in effect is a return to normality, is necessary to restore a decent quality of life; andIt currently is politically and culturally impossible without possible violence to make any economic changes that threaten the managerial class.In other words, we are in the USSR circa 1989. We focus on the relative lack of bloodshed that accompanied the Soviet Union’s end, but that it ended at all let alone non-violently is the most amazing part. The elite faction then that overcame the managerial class was in fact a rogue portion of it. Here in the present, the rogue elite comes from the economic sector, which is somewhat outside the system. Given how dependent its wealth is on the state as presently constituted, wouldn’t even that faction be resistant to most economic change? Or does it see a path to more profit and viability outside of the system as currently constituted? And more importantly, does the rogue (or new, possibly) elite’s interests even align with ours?Those answers are outside of my pay grade. What I do know is the our people benefit if a faction of the rising elite accepts and wants a lower population level. I just don’t see such a faction since even those who advocate the necessary economic changes, to the degree they do, still cling to the old ideas about GDP and population.
Compsci #441296 January 28, 2025 10:42 am 6
Certainly, there has been a move to increase population through immigration, but is the reason monolithic or varies among interest groups? In short, can these groups be split and objections overcome? For example, Dem’s want a voting population for political control. What if these folk no longer have the franchise? What if factory IA workers no longer can work due to tightened enforcement?
Jack Dobson #441305 January 28, 2025 11:02 am 10
Ending the demand is the right approach. Since I subscribe to elite theory more or less, that’s the group that matters. How to end its demand for a constant flow of people? I do think the violence and upheaval associated with open borders frightened some factions. But as we saw with the H1B debacle, elites still want immigration of some kind. How to end that demand? They flagrantly violate and ignore laws at this point, so this has to be an approach of making bad people do good things. I think the United States is far past the tipping point, but the fewer aliens in any carve-outs, which are coming and even happening now, the better. The demand for them has to dry up. I’m looking at this from outside of political solutions now.
Compsci #441313 January 28, 2025 11:18 am 5
Even H1b VISA’s can be reworked. What is the reason for these workers to be offered citizenship for example? Why do we not enforce more tightly the concept of not allowing such people to *replace* current US employees. Seems we used to have a program for migratory farm workers to come up from MX, then go home. Same should be done with H1b’s. They can go home and apply for legal immigration under their countries’ quota allocation.
Jack Dobson #441332 January 28, 2025 11:51 am 6
The H1B’s have been reworked quite a bit to our detriment. The “Left” got onboard when it realized Green Cards would be issued eventually to their holders. If the Tech Bros were thoughtful they would be floating a revision now to that effect, but they don’t care about the racial and cultural problems. Immigration always is bad.
Arshad Ali #441357 January 28, 2025 1:31 pm 4
“What is the reason for these workers to be offered citizenship for example?”There’s a process from going from H1B to Green Card. This is because the H1B operates on the “principle of dual intent” (unlike the work program for Mexican agricultural workers). The H1B to Green Card is not straightforward and involves obstacles and delays. At the current time, it supposedly takes decades (I’m not joking) for an Indian H1B to get a Green Card. Other nationalities (e.g., West European) are probably much faster. American workers get shafted by H1B migrant workers but the H1B migrant workers get shafted in a different way by having a Green Card tantalizingly out of reach. The tech overlords want a working population of anxious and terrified indentured servants who can be underpaid and overexploited.
3g4me #441366 January 28, 2025 1:47 pm 11
“. . . but the H1B migrant workers get shafted . . .”And White heritage Americans should care about this . . . why?
Arshad Ali #441384 January 28, 2025 2:32 pm 9
Because this underpaid and over-exploited workforce depresses US wages and working conditions. Can you see this? The best thing would be to not have the H1B in place at all.
ray #441378 January 28, 2025 2:21 pm 4
Right. When I was a kid, we let temporary workers in when it suited the interests of our working men and farms. Not the interests of liberal women looking to virtue signal and the endless ‘minorities’ of the civil rights regime.
Arshad Ali #441385 January 28, 2025 2:34 pm 6
Actually it’s probably the big corporates that lobbied for this and got the H1B on the statute book back in 1990, when Bush, Sr. was president, The liberal women are just the lipstick on the pig, the camouflage, of the big corporates.
Tars Tarkas #441312 January 28, 2025 11:15 am 12
Tariffs will not be enough and especially not targeted tariffs. A lot of production is leaving China, but it’s not coming home to the US. Most of it is going to other Asian countries. Mexico is another country production is move to. The mountains of regulations that have built up in the US since the 60s, not to mention the army of lawyers, makes us extremely uncompetitive. The hollowing out of manufacturing over a long period of time has resulted in a workforce lacking the skills necessary for manufacturing.
Jeffrey Zoar #441320 January 28, 2025 11:27 am 5
The coming Greater North American Co Prosperity Sphere means that the production moving to Mexico actually is returning “home.”
ray #441388 January 28, 2025 2:36 pm 2
Or just absorb Mexico under a type of Protectorate. One then could re-assign Presidente Sheinbaum (lol) to a more appropriate employment. The stables? That’d be fine.
Jannie #441329 January 28, 2025 11:45 am 3
Absolutely right. Mexico is an attractive nearshoring destination now (even Chinese factories are moving there) due to its location near major markets, low costs, and lack of workers’ rights.
3g4me #441368 January 28, 2025 1:50 pm 11
Toyota has shifted a lot of production to Mexico. Their engines suck and sales are tanking. I went out of my way to buy a Toyota made in Japan. I don’t give a f**k about Mexico’s “lack of workers’ rights.”
Compsci #441380 January 28, 2025 2:25 pm 4
The troubles with Toyota’s quality assurance is troubling. I need to hear more about it to understand what happened. Toyota was able to open up a factory in Tennessee moving from Japan. My first truck came from there. It was rock solid—even when built by Americans and Detroit cars were suffering in quality. I’m still not convinced you can’t build a good car in MX.
Paintersforms #441409 January 28, 2025 3:47 pm 1
4 door Tacomas have been produced i MX iirc for a long time. 2 door at least used to be produced in TX (mine was anyhow). Maybe a good case study.
3g4me #441422 January 28, 2025 4:38 pm 2
There’s plenty of info/comparisons on YT. You can still buy Tacomas made in Japan/Canada, and YT gives the VINS that tell you this.
RealityRules #441393 January 28, 2025 2:44 pm 7
Peter Thiel openly stated this. As usual, there was no emotion, no empathy, no concern. Just a fact that he will exploit while we are left to our own devices.As for the workforce training, the old mentality couple with an ability to enact real reform is the biggest obstacle. We have more than enough people: immigration attorneys; bullshit tech jobs; bullshit “journalist” jobs; bullshit government jobs; bullshit “H1B” visas; foreign domiciled tech jobs at American companies; bullshit NGO jobs (government jobs by another name); people paid not to work; people paid to barely work … …; bullshit university jobs; bullshit jobs in service to the people doing bullshit jobs … …While efficiency through experience would take some time, we could transition those people into real jobs and in a short period of time they could be getting it done. It would take some time for them to get proficient, but it would be done.You would destroy many castles. You would have your jobs that Americans would no longer be able choose to turn their noses up at. I would love to have that blonde fat cunt in Chicago as an immigration attorney crying over deporting double-criminals, (here illegally and committing other crimes to boot), get a job on a docking bay. Of course, after she is last in line and has to live in an apt. with 20 illegals to make ends meet while they wait for deportation and she waits for her interview.Wishes/fantasies aside, this is the other issue with America. We just sent people to college with no structure no real legitimate job forecasting just guestimates and it is total chaos. It is time to make the industries forecast labor and build a farm system of Americans to train for jobs and careers. This is a major structural change that needs to be made.If we are to be serfs to corporate America they should have a duty to at least choose some of us and invest something in us and display some amount of loyalty. American firms need to play an active role in development and recruiting. Of course, they moved in this direction in ’20 because the left partnered with them. Of course, that was a racial patronage system that froze Whites out.
Tars Tarkas #441410 January 28, 2025 3:49 pm 1
I agree wholeheartedly. I wasn’t advocating for the status quo and using it as an excuse. I’m just saying tariffs alone are not enough, even if they were just generic import tariffs and not specific to this country or that country.
RealityRules #441438 January 28, 2025 6:50 pm 1
Understood Tars. Just underscoring your point.
usNthem #441287 January 28, 2025 10:30 am 12
“The biggest challenge in this project is a dysfunctional managerial class that sees any change as a challenge to their position.” That and the fact millions of low quality swarthy invaders have taken up squatting residence in this rapidly devolving country. It’s going to be long hard slog to say the least.
Alzaebo #441421 January 28, 2025 4:38 pm 0
Look, the return on the pension funds of the managerial class are what’s driving the need for inflation; that those and the public fund pools are controlled by the politicians is what’s driving the bust-out.The crooks are getting money to run, the managerials are getting money to put up a walled estate; if white people start training their own children again in the technological arts we invented, we could offer them a places to run to, perhaps, and get them on our side.Very tenuous, a fragile soap bubble against a tidal wave, but what are ya gonna invest in?Another burned-out slum ‘redevelopment’ or the Amanda Colonies where Amish have a factory building the Radarange stovetop microwaves?(More likely, that Pennsylvania factory making the missile shell casings, and Venezuelan indentured migrants working the North Carolina quartz mine.)
Mencken Libertarian #441367 January 28, 2025 1:47 pm 10
The collapse of manufacturing in the USA coincided with the environmental movement, and the creation of the EPA under Nixon. For example it quickly became far more expensive to make steel in the USA, making many products uncompetitive. Until we eliminate these governmental restrictions on manufacturing, we’re not likely to see much manufacturing here in the USA.
Compsci #441373 January 28, 2025 2:10 pm 5
It’s a matter of cost, is it not? The great arbitrage of off shoring is both in wages and environmental/safety cost. Can’t see why a profitable enterprise can’t start here if tariffs are employed appropriately to account for such arbitrage.
Mencken Libertarian #441383 January 28, 2025 2:30 pm 2
True enough.
Steve #441460 January 28, 2025 10:48 pm 3
No. Stop focusing on the money. They can create more money with a few keystrokes. Focus on the wealth, and consequent purchasing power. That’s not nearly as easy to create.Take cars. Say you need a 50% tariff to account for the arbitrage.Cet. par., cars will necessarily be 50% higher, plus vig. Except they can’t because there are not all that many who can swing that kind of payment. So things will settle at a new price somewhere between the two, but most critically, with tens, hundreds of thousands of people priced out of the market entirely. Most of whom are young, and ideally should be starting a family, but there is no house in the suburbs in the offing, because he is stuck riding the bus.
Steve #441462 January 28, 2025 11:48 pm 2
This is a lot easier to see if you pick a product that cannot be imported. Houses, for instance. This is effectively a massive tariff. 1000%, maybe. But even with that, housing starts have not kept up. Shoot, our best ever was around 2.5 million in Nixon’s administration, with around 200 million people. Now with half again the number of people, and a plethora of illegals, we are around 1.5 million, and more expensive, even if you factor in inflation and hedonics. If protectionism were the answer, why isn’t it the answer for houses?
Karl Horst #441397 January 28, 2025 3:09 pm 8
Back in 2002, hundreds of Chinese workers arrived in the German town of Dortmund to dismantle a huge disused steel works. They transported it piece by piece to Shanghai and has been running ever since. This Youtube is in German, but you can change the subtitles to English. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iq2BTKI7K_o&ab_channel=wocomoDOCS
3g4me #441423 January 28, 2025 4:40 pm 4
That is so sad – and so typical of the short-sightedness of the corporate industrialists/globalists. From AI to steel to classic Italian luxury brands, it’s all made by Chinese (in China and Italy and everywhere else).
pyrrhus #441323 January 28, 2025 11:31 am 10
Excellent points about the transition of our economy from producers to FIRE skimmers, which is why our so-called GDP is more than 70% services, most of them unnecessary in a sane world…Another way of looking at it is Michael Hudson’s view that we have transitioned from an economy where the government provided the necessary infrastructure for development, including sound education through HS, while the producers produced…to a managerial government that ignores infrastructure and has made itself the main middleman in every deal through a vast cloud of regulations..
Jeffrey Zoar #441303 January 28, 2025 10:56 am 10
Recession being necessary for change presents some different problems than it did in the 1930s, thanks to demographic changes. Not only are we not the same country that we were back then, we won’t be the same country at the end of the recession that we will be at the beginning of it (because I am convinced this next one will be long and deep). Which begs the question of how capable a workforce made up of 3rd world muds will be at digging out of a recession, and how far out of it they can dig. Whatever the percentage of them ends up being relative to whites, it is uncharted territory. Looking for historical analogy, I don’t think the “economic miracle” in Europe in the 1950s happens quite the same way with a bunch of Somalis. I don’t doubt that Guatemalans are able and willing to do the grunt work, but the economy they immigrated from is not noted for its innovation. And this is all without getting into the already existing political divisions which recession will not exactly ameliorate.
Compsci #441308 January 28, 2025 11:08 am 1
The discussion here is precisely centered upon the elimination of “grunt work”—as well as any number of managerial type functions.
Alzaebo #441427 January 28, 2025 5:05 pm 2
China has a robot factory that claims to build an electric vehicle every 31 seconds. It seems they skipped right past the need to import immigrants, despite having a billion workers already at hand. That raises a seperate question. Why would China need to outsource to Vietnam and the like? Aren’t they a controlled economy, a national socialismus state for the Chinese people?
Alzaebo #441426 January 28, 2025 5:01 pm 3
Proof in the pudding: my Nebraska friend was the factory mechanic for meat processors.Of course, management brought in Somalis to do the grunt work, freezing out the locals. Two years later, my friend’s job was helping to dismantle and shut down those plants. They are ‘relocating’. Now that an enormous lithium bed has been found on the Idaho border, perhaps our imported Africans can be useful there, a mini Congo of our own.
G Lordon Giddy #441301 January 28, 2025 10:53 am 10
The war machine for the neocons and the zionists must be made healthy again.The flip to anti woke is more about a certain tribe worried that the great power they have their tentacles into is economicaly weakening internally which endangers their war projects.
LineInTheSand #441309 January 28, 2025 11:08 am 4
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2025/jan/24/foreign-aid-israel-egypt Why was Egypt spared?
Jannie #441330 January 28, 2025 11:47 am 13
To keep them at peace with Israel. The aid package is to help make sure they don’t get any more 1973-type ideas.
3g4me #441369 January 28, 2025 1:52 pm 17
Because by law and the stupid peace treaty we engineered, they each get an enormous aid package. Look at Egypt’s population increase in the last 20 years – you helped pay for that. Look at all the meddling and strife Israel has caused in the last 20 years – you paid for that too.
BigJimSportCamper #441406 January 28, 2025 3:23 pm 7
Because of Trump’s ethnic cleansing proposal to drive the Gazans to Egypt. Gotta grease the skids.MIGA!!
ray #441347 January 28, 2025 1:00 pm 9
Makes good sense. And I got a ‘Cognitively Disabled’ grade in Econ. 101.One thing Trumpster did right first time ’round was the econ and financial stuff. Which also makes sense, that’s his milieu.To reintroduce industry and production and to win the production-cost battles against foreign competitors, you’ll need tough, experienced men. . . the very men that New Amerika made war on the past 50 years.Your empowered females cannot do this. They will drag you down to the bottom of the national lake.It’ll take more than economic legerdemain to fix the U.S. You will need deep and painful social reform concerning woke and feminism, the main adversaries of said strong and trustworthy men. And you will need to get off the backs of boys and ensure they again have dads.
Compsci #441375 January 28, 2025 2:14 pm 5
The way to assure dad’s is to support marriage. Uncle Sam has become every woman’s simp husband of last resort. This needs to be remedied, but as it falls mainly to the States, perhaps out of Trump’s control.
ray #441415 January 28, 2025 4:08 pm 3
I do not support marriage for American men in a Feminist Nation — absent wholesale change to the judicial system, including appointments to judgeships. First target, . . . dismantling of the tremendously lucrative Divorce Industry.Dad the king of the castle, instead of Mom. Dad’s word goes, not Mom’s. Binding legally and socially, advocated-for in the churches. Or else I might leave my paradise and visit them.Abolition of the Violence Against Women Act and the legion of funding sources supporting it, including grants from elite sources (looking at you Rockefellers) and contributions from corporate Amerika.That’s just to start. Right now, men are walking away from both marriage and Ms. America. Rightly so, too. She doesn’t back off those men will let your nation die.
Compsci #441449 January 28, 2025 8:51 pm 0
We have no disagreement. I just jump to the 30,000 foot view of the problem, marriage. That of course entails discussion which you’ve astutely outlined.
Clyde #441276 January 28, 2025 10:07 am 8
“Like the aristocracy in 18th century France, they will not go quietly.”  Thanks for the advice; I’m investing in tumbrels!
Lavrov #441289 January 28, 2025 10:32 am 7
Trump is trying to do high-quality acrobatics on a narrow plank connecting the tops of two 70-floor Trump towers, when such acts are difficult even on the ground. Good luck to him !!
Karl Horst #441284 January 28, 2025 10:26 am 7
Herr Musk certainly isn’t helping the American worker with his soon to be released Tesla Optimus.https://www.tesla.com/en_eu/AIIf there was ever a time for Luddite resurgence, it’s now.Just kidding! Industrial automation will never go away, no matter how much the Unions scream. Here in Germany Hans and Jorge over at the VW plant who have been manually assembling cars for the past 30-years are finished. And their kids can forget about working there too.It’s not enough Germany off-shored to Eastern Europe. German industrial automation companies were quite happy to sell their equipment to China. Now that China has copied and duplicated all that wonderful German engineering, no one is buying German equipment anymore because they don’t need to.When it comes to world class VW engineering, they can’t even sell their vehicles in China because they’re not competently priced. For example, the VW Vizzion is actually 57% cheaper in China than in Europe.Back to Optimus, the advert is typical for anyone dreaming of a personal helper to clean the house, make dinners, walking the dog or mow the lawn and is expected to become integrated into our lives. At least for anyone with $30k they don’t know what else to do with.Of course for industries who are tired of paying people to do manual labor, health benefits and contributing to their retirement funds, Optimus is a wet dream to the finance department. They can not only rid themselves of all those pesky employees in production, but also in HR, logistics, etc. For any job which was not so easily automated before (manually loading complex parts into welding fixtures) Optimus offers the perfect solution. See the BMW link below.And why would farmers hire low wage workers to work their fields harvesting tomatoes or asparagus when these robots can do the same work 24-7-365?Didn’t someone once say when all the skilled manuals jobs are gone, they can always work in McDonalds? I can see where those people will be out the door too if Elon has anything to say about it.Optimus isn’t some futuristic dream of the future. It’s a viable reality just like the personal PC of the last century, the iPhone in 2007 and self driving vehicles today.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2pwqqdVukx0&ab_channel=BestInTESLAhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sq1QZB5baNw&ab_channel=Figurehttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WlUFoZstcWg&ab_channel=Figure
Jeffrey Zoar #441291 January 28, 2025 10:36 am 10
UBI, or paying people not to work, would not be a shock to the AINO economy or a large additional cost. It is already largely the reality. They’ve already dropped a lot of the facade of forcing people to show up at the office, where they were already getting paid for doing little to nothing that was productive.
Mr. House #441297 January 28, 2025 10:46 am 3
Healthcare is the low hanging fruit for this and working for any level of government cough cough 😉
Jack Dobson #441306 January 28, 2025 11:04 am 2
Smart take. Yep, we do have UBI of sorts.
Compsci #441307 January 28, 2025 11:05 am 4
True, but at least they had to report to work and spend some time in a regimented environment “pretending” to do productive efforts. What happens when one is simply “kept”. That is to say, freed from the basics of work for food, clothing, and shelter? Have we not seen this in our welfare ghettos? UBI for all? So far we’ve had no successful (to my limited knowledge) experiments.As to the cost, UBI heretofore was proposed as a *replacement* for all welfare payments, that is why the cost seemed reasonable at the time. This now seems impossible as folks tend to fight for their welfare goodies in all their various forms. Hence the failure of experimental UBI programs.
Strong men make #441319 January 28, 2025 11:27 am 9
UBI but only if they agree to voluntary sterilization so there will be no more generational welfare queens with 6 differently fathered chillun. This way the troublesome and expensive to maintain with no ROI will eventually disappear.
Bitter reactionary #441348 January 28, 2025 1:00 pm 5
This measure should have been implemented 70 years ago. The US would be a vastly better place.
Alzaebo #441428 January 28, 2025 5:22 pm 3
Margaret Sanger tried to tell us. She was against abortion, but advocated ‘family planning’. Some states had sterilization programs; California, relatively recently, enforced Norplant for a few as a trial. The small-hatted folks who industrialized the abortion industry needed body parts to sell, so here we are. (Don’t even get me started on their global network of body parts from children and adults, or their adrenochrome vampires.) I can see why the corporate boards want to turn us all into GMO-tagged patented inventory. That’s what remains after the FIRE economy is absorbed by AI.
Hemid #441392 January 28, 2025 2:44 pm 4
The ghetto is the ghetto because of who’s in it, not economics. White people “kept” via UBI would do white people things. The ones who have it in them to ghettoize already do. Our worst people by far—cops and soldiers—retire earliest, and even they rarely succumb to sloth/squalor/etc. My income for many years has come from still getting paid for one thing I did when I was young, rather like lottery winnings. Since then, I’ve done all the same things I was already doing, and my crime rate is zero (until Trump gets us for antisemitism). We are who we are. Libertarians are wrong abouteverything.I’m sure it’ll come up, so I’ll mention it first: The “lottery winners are all broke in [some small number of] years” factoid is based on a faked study (as studies usually are). Lottery winners do exceptionally well unless they get scammed—byhardworking businessmen.People like the idea of losers (or accidental winners) being cursed. Americans’ idea of justice ispunishment for everythingexcept “hard work” (enriching bankers, obeying the managerial class—or doing nothing, ever, and lying about it, like Elon does). It’s not a natural attitude—not for white people.Who instills this ghetto morality?
Compsci #441451 January 28, 2025 9:07 pm 0
This seems true, but I note we have a projected demographic of less than 50% White by perhaps 2050. Further, there is no shortage of White trash who will sit on their ass and drug out on their UBI checks.
Karl Horst #441326 January 28, 2025 11:36 am 8
Agreed. Many companies in Germany allowed people to continue to work home office after the pandemic and productivity didn’t change. I knew plenty of people in my company who weren’t doing anything except keeping a chair warm, so when they got to say home, they actually made more money simply by not commuting.
The Infant Pheonomenon #441390 January 28, 2025 2:41 pm 4
The electricity industry is telling us that by 2027–roughly 24 months from today–artificial intelligence will consume as much electricity as the Netherlands does today. And given that *only* the Southern Company (Georgia Power, Alabama Power, Mississippi Power) has built nuclear reactors in America over the past 50 years (all four of which are in Georgia), and given the fact that Germany–Germany!–for example, has shut down its nuclear facilities in favor of “renewables,”and given the *fact* that the EU is forging ahead–successfully so far–with the whole carbon superstition thing, one has to wonder where the electricity will come from to power not only AI but also kitchen stoves (now that Biden has “outlawed” gas stoves), electric vehicles, and electronic “currencies,” etc., etc., not to mention their total-surveillance police state and social-credit systems. The people running the show worldwide are either stupid or evil. Evil, that is, if their plan really is depopulation, in which case, rationing electricity or even cutting most people off from it will be necessary for them to get rid of most of us. Which means that violent revolutionary uprisings are inevitable worldwide. Most Western countries will have ceased to exist in their present forms within the next ten years or sooner.
Karl Horst #441441 January 28, 2025 7:49 pm 1
It seems under the new Trump administration, common sense and being in touch with reality are going to become fashionable again.He may even have an influence here as many UE political figures are openly stating that many of the policies that Trump is pushing for (5% NATO contributions) is absolutely correct. It was correct when he was in office before and it’s correct now that he’s back.Nothing like watching a bear eat your neighbor to make you realize you’re not as safe as you think!Same with energy policies which have devastated the German and European economy. America First is exactly the wake up call Europe needs to start pulling ourselves up by our own bootstraps. We have plenty of resources (coal, iron, etc.) to stimulate our own economy if we can get out from under the stupidity of liberal Green policies.There is talk about starting up nuclear plants in Germany, But if the Berlin Airport project was any example of what we can expect it will take 10-years just to decide what color the workers toilets should be.Hopefully Trump’s leadership and influence on the EU will change the direction we are heading which we all desperately need.
Compsci #441452 January 28, 2025 9:12 pm 4
Here is something that Trump *could* do. Force all military bases to equip themselves with Nuke power from mini-reactors! There is no State oversight on military bases. Those mini-nukes will create a market and provide support via their wide adoption and use.
Steve #441463 January 28, 2025 11:58 pm 1
Funny as heck if California Power & Light started having to buy electricity from Miramar and Vandenburg and Twenty-Nine Palms and such.
Nick Notes Mugshot #441386 January 28, 2025 2:35 pm 6
The economy has continued to “evolve” past the traders to the tik tok influencers. I am personally struggling with the decision on whether to become a plumber or a life coach.
Ketchup-stained Griller #441401 January 28, 2025 3:15 pm 4
Every empty storefront around becomes a “Personal Trainer.”
Thomas #441281 January 28, 2025 10:16 am 5
These folks nailed it 17 years ago: https://youtu.be/pKv6RcXa2UI?si=WcJqvEQcBFIh2j8P
Lakelander #441395 January 28, 2025 2:54 pm 4
I think Trump has an overly simplistic view of how all this is going to work. Does he imagine throwing some tariffs on some countries will force industry to magically re-shore en masse? Even if it that did happen, do we have an adequate workforce of machinists, CNC operators and other jobs necessary for re-industrialization? Are we training enough Americans to acquire these skills? If not, are we just going to import more Eastern Europeans to do these jobs? Kind of defeats the whole purpose.
Alzaebo #441434 January 28, 2025 6:18 pm 6
East Europeans and South Africans wouldn’t be a bad idea at all.
Compsci #441448 January 28, 2025 8:45 pm 1
First things first. We can all envision scenarios of failure. First thing, businesses consider reshoring. Second thing, personnel. Not all businesses require machinists and CNC operators. In order to get those people, one must first have employment opportunities awaiting training in those specialties. But you have a point. We may well have a problem with our glorified, elites who now populate our managerial class and are too good to do the manual, blue collar trades they are best suited for. Too bad.
RealityRules #441355 January 28, 2025 1:22 pm 4
It is hard to understand what is coherent and what is incoherent at least as what applies to the oligarchy.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vSG0fBJBcQ8Larry Ellison needs to keep growing Oracle’s bottom line. Can’t sell many more databases to the government? Negative interest rates at 0 are gone and the startups that fuel cloud services growth are gone or going away? What would you do? A $500 billion AI initiative.He’ll get growth, you’ll lose your job and you’ll get a surveillance state. Above all, we’ll become worse than China to beat China!!!!We’ve seen the labor part of this in Silicon Valley at the end of the DotCom 1.0. A glut of SEs were on the market and those employed at zombie companies were very expensive. So, they turned to India and offshoring to reduce costs. That hasn’t changed. It isn’t just the H1Bs, many of the older web properties whose growth is slowing and stock is not inflating due to ZIRP, are increasing the size of their offshore engineering operations.Z is right what he said a few days ago. Things have gotten way worse than they are telling us or Trump would not have been cleared to elbow out Kamala. There are times where you wonder if the menagerie of dystopian movies we live in boil down to Robocop and The Dark Knight. It almost seems too convenient and too organized the tech bros swooping in and proposing solutions to mass crime, cancer … …DOGE’s first act is to open requisitions for software engineers. They are going to automate government. Now, the positive side is, perhaps the Dem patronage networks will be burnt to the ground. The negative side is, what will become of all of us.I don’t know. We have to hold on and get ready for a wild ride. Perhaps what Anduril, Mach Industries … … are not preparing for war with China. Perhaps they are preparing for the war of finishing the looting of the empire and heavy handed enforcement. Prosperity and abundance through mass unemployment and displacement doesn’t seem like much of a plan.We could deal with privation and hardship. Burning all of the social capital to the ground and leaving the people for dead doesn’t seem like a good way to confront our problems.
Jeffrey Zoar #441360 January 28, 2025 1:38 pm 3
Since you asked, at age 80 with $188 billion, I could think of other things I’d rather do. But I hear Ellison intends to live forever.
Piffle #441292 January 28, 2025 10:38 am 4
“The middleman economy was very good for the sorts of people who have a long list of impressive sounding credentials but view tangible accomplishment as a disqualifier. The army of managers in the managerial state cannot survive a transition out of a middleman economy. “ The good news is that when showing their credentials doesn’t stop events, they are pretty well out of ideas beyond there.
Ed #441411 January 28, 2025 3:52 pm 3
I think a deep recession is inevitable because the spending cuts are going to have to be drastic. Stay out of debt and prepare accordingly.
TomA #441339 January 28, 2025 12:22 pm 3
As usual, an excellent analysis in common sense language. Now go deeper. Nothing changes until the environment changes; so recession may actually become depression if the neocons get their WW3 via a false flag. War is the best way to hide financial disaster. And if the SHTF, they want peons killing peons, and not them (hence the illegals among us). The fastest (and least harmful) bounce off the bottom is via housecleaning. This reality is an unfortunate but necessary bitch.
Yagama #441458 January 28, 2025 10:28 pm 2
your desire for cheap labour and cheap goods cause the ongoing national crisis There’s reason historically every nation have protected borders and regulation on trade for a reasonwhen one country depends on resources and goods to another country, that country has literally become hostage to others
Ben the Layabout #441399 January 28, 2025 3:12 pm 2
France required a bit more than a recession to make the needed changes.
Krustykurmudgeon #441379 January 28, 2025 2:24 pm 2
did you see catherine rampell chimp out on tv? She’s one of the few jewesses that are hot – but she went defcon
Ketchup-stained Griller #441403 January 28, 2025 3:17 pm 3
Ahhh, a 5 or 6 because she puts some effort into it.
Krustykurmudgeon #441361 January 28, 2025 1:39 pm 2
https://x.com/JeffClarkUS/status/1839854998735265870 Was COVID known about in advance? This eisen guy is either a mastermind or someone who thinks he’s Napoleon and belongs in a padded cell
The Wild Geese Howard #441433 January 28, 2025 6:11 pm 0
Uh, Norm Eisen has been a known Leftist operator for a long time.
Krustykurmudgeon #441459 January 28, 2025 10:46 pm 0
that doesn’t really answer my question. Clark implies that Eisen knew that a virus was coming which makes you wonder
RealityRules #441400 January 28, 2025 3:12 pm 1
This is a positive step. He is going after the rival castle’s source of funding. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VDnLg5bcU0c
Compsci #441447 January 28, 2025 8:40 pm 1
Way too long for viewing.
Dutchboy #441398 January 28, 2025 3:11 pm 1
Middle Man is a nice euphemism for exploiter.
Steve #441464 January 29, 2025 12:01 am 0
Meh. All the farmers had to do is say, “No thanks.”
CorkyAgain #441469 January 29, 2025 2:43 am 0
Yeah, but you know how those flim-flam men are fast talkers. Easy to see how a simple farmer wouldn’t understand what he was signing up for, especially when he was worried about having to leave the farm unattended and chores undone while he took his crop to the market. Probably sounded to him like hiring a farm hand at an affordable wage… And you know, simple folk tend to be trusting folk.
Steve #441496 January 29, 2025 10:03 am 1
But they are not stupid folk. I grew up around them. They can tell when they are worse off. When the harvest doesn’t quite carry you through to the next harvest. That’s kind of hard to miss.
Hokkoda #441477 January 29, 2025 8:51 am 0
The other thing Trump wants to do is repeal the income tax and move to a consumption (sales) tax. This places great tax burden on bigger spenders, and it encourages thrift and shopping discipline. Sales taxes would likely vary to ensure it’s not a regressive system. Prepared foods = higher taxes. Fresh and other shorter shelf life items = lower taxes. Luxury goods higher. Necessities lower.Oh and the abolition of income taxes eliminates (or greatly reduces) one of America’s most shameful skimming operations: tax prep and tax law services. A lot of the trouble in Washington orbits around trying to manipulate tax law. That won’t go away. Lobbyists will try to reduce taxes on their products. But 300M Americans would be free of the tax man’s boot. Don’t like paying taxes? Buy less.That in turn allows more domestic production and resets the economy to focus on wealth building rather than worshiping GDP growth.Done right, it’ll also help people get healthy financially, physically and mentally.
Steve #441499 January 29, 2025 10:07 am 0
When has something like that ever happened? They actually followed through with some tax substitution scheme and not reinstituted it a few sessions later? Heck, to the best of my knowledge, we still have the telecom tax “paying” for the Spanish American War over 6-score years in the rear-view mirror.
karl von hungus #441472 January 29, 2025 5:55 am 0
surprised there isn’t much talk about the strategic predicate of having key industries “on shore”. economics is one thing, but national security is*the* thing.
Son #441344 January 28, 2025 12:53 pm -8
These naive articles on global economics are so painful. Stop and think, man: the world pays us tribute. Every day, they send us untold riches in exchange for next to nothing. You at once decried offshoring while making Walmart a household name. LMAO AF. Gimme a break.
Compsci #441376 January 28, 2025 2:16 pm 3
Well, you can laugh your ass off all you want. Doesn’t mean you have a clue—and you don’t.
Son #441389 January 28, 2025 2:39 pm -1
Very substative response. What am I missing?
Compsci #441450 January 28, 2025 8:53 pm 3
One absurd comment deserves another. You got a reply that fits your comment’s thoughtfulness quite well. Try again, you might do better—but I doubt.
Son #441473 January 29, 2025 7:51 am -1
Naw. You’re all a joke. I’m good. There’s no reason to read this goyslop here anymore. Probably never was.
Lakelander #441429 January 28, 2025 5:29 pm 2
Every day, they also send us untold amounts of foreigners in exchange for EVERYTHING. You’re just another ankle biting faggot arguing with your own delusions.
Alzaebo #441435 January 28, 2025 6:23 pm 4
They’re sellingusthe riches?Where’s my check? No, it’s a bust-out, our managers are selling off centuries of accumulated social capital for dirt cheap out the back door.
Steve #441461 January 28, 2025 11:07 pm 1
Yes, they give us goods for green pieces of paper, or, now, 1s and 0s. Today is sweet. But what happens tomorrow? The reason they make such a foolish trade is that they believe the US government will end up making good on it by taking it out of us, in blood if necessary. And I’m not prepared to say they are wrong in their assessment…


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