An Old Story

For a little over a year, it has been clear to people who have followed the war in Ukraine that there is no winning scenario for Ukraine. The sanctions on Russia failed to change the Russian approach to the war. The hundreds of billions in NATO weapons, planning and support were not enough to beat back the Russian army. The great Ukraine offensive of 2023 was a stunning failure that eliminated any possibility of the Ukraine army holding the line in the Donbass.

The question has been how does the war end. For Ukraine, the best outcome is a negotiated settlement that includes a change in Ukrainian attitudes. Maybe NATO abandons the project and the Russians install new leaders. Maybe Zelensky figures out that he is about to be cut loose and cuts a deal with the Russians. Maybe Washington, hoping to save face, backs Zelensky in making a deal with the Russians. No matter how, the best option for Ukraine was a negotiated settlement.

That appears to be off the table now that the Ukrainians have launched this crazy incursion into the Kursk region of Russia. It appears that the plan was to reach the nuclear power plant in Kursk and then use it as blackmail. The Ukrainians would not just demand negotiations but require a Russian withdrawal as a condition for negotiations or they would blow up the nuclear power plant. As ridiculous as that sounds, the other explanations for this gambit are even nuttier.

Of course, this plan sounds like it is from a poorly made Hollywood action thriller, rather than a sober-minded military operation. The reason for that is the people running Ukraine are actors. For going on three years now they have spent far more time crafting creative narratives about the war than thinking soberly about how they can avoid being wiped off the map. For people who imagine reality is just a clever written story, this operation sounded brilliant.

The supreme role of narrative for Western political elites is evident in how they have reacted to this new production. It seems they had no part in its construction, or at least they were not told about it in advance, so they were unprepared to play their role in selling this as the next great event in the drama. Western media was not provided with a script, so they had no idea what to say. Eventually they settled on this being bad for Putin’s narrative, a thing that does not exist.

It is another example of the total lack of realism in our political class. The Ukraine war is an unnecessary venture for everyone involved except the Russians. A thousand years of history says they will not allow Ukraine to fall into the Western orbit. Otherwise, everyone else involved has practical reasons for not having this war, but the good feelings that come from good narratives have been too much to resist. The result is an unfolding catastrophe for the West.

This total lack of realism in the West seems to have finally reached an end point with the Russians after this latest caper. In a recent press conference, Putin said that it is now impossible to deal with Ukrainian leadership. While not closing the door to negotiations completely, he has now ruled out dealing with Zelensky. Other Russian officials are floating the idea of regime change in Kiev as a necessary precondition for any negotiated settlement to the war.

What that means is that the eventual collapse of the Ukrainian army, which is now accelerating due to the nutty decisions made by Kiev, will be followed by a political collapse, by force if necessary. In other words, if the West deciders it is time to make a deal with the Russians, that deal starts by cutting Zelensky loose, which in the context of Ukrainian politics means the whole crew must go. They will not go voluntarily, so it means the end game includes a civil war in Western Ukraine.

The Ukraine war is a microcosm of what is happening in the West. Every decision is based only in the moment without any thought of what comes next. Things are done voluntarily that should have been avoided, not because they are part of a larger strategy but because they fit the current narrative. It is as if once the story is created, the writers are sucked into it, losing all control of the plot. All they can do is respond as if they are now unwitting characters in the story.

This is harmless in the low-stakes world of parlor games in which members of the political class evolve, but in the practical world, it is a disaster. It leads to a scenario in which no one knows if the current president is alive or dead. No one seems to care because his character has been written out of the story. Who is actually making decisions is a mystery. It is the dynamic that created the condition for war in Ukraine and is now pushing it towards catastrophe.

On the one hand, it certainly seems like the West is now governed by emotion and symbolism, rather than practical considerations. The Kamala Harris campaign can be boiled down to a promise of feel goods. The entire production is a collection of symbolic shapes and sounds to transmit the simple idea that it feels good or that the alternative will make you feel bad. To his credit, Trump is offering tangible things that have some connection to practical reality.

The lesson of the Ukraine war, however, is that reality still matters. All the feel-good stories and symbols has not changed the fact that the Russian army is chewing up the Ukrainian army. The clever narratives cannot conceal the massive cemeteries full of dead Ukrainian soldiers. The question that arises from this war is whether Western elites will learn that the clever stories by the managerial class will not keep them from the gallows if things start to crumble.

The great lesson of history is that there is always a price to be paid for failed leadership and that price is paid by the people, then their rulers. Joseph de Maistre famously said that the people get the government they deserve. He was wrong. The lesson of the French Revolution is that the ruling elite gets the people they deserve. A ruling class that is concerned more with clever narratives than practical reality will face a people, who out of practical necessity, decide they must get a new ruling elite.


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NateG #418788 August 14, 2024 8:34 am 113
While looking at a recent photo of Zelensky and his staff, I thought I was watching some kids Bar Mitzvah. These people aren’t Ukrainians and they could care less about how many are killed. All these people will pack up their valuables and leave for some Western country if Ukraine crumbles. Their cousins in the West will make sure they live comfortable, guarded lives, while ethnic Ukrainians go through living hell.
Lineman #418853 August 14, 2024 10:25 am 45
Hmmm sounds like our rulers and I would say they want the same things for us…
Bourbon #419006 August 14, 2024 5:57 pm 5
Z: “The Kamala Harris campaign can be boiled down to a promise of feel goods. The entire production is a collection of symbolic shapes and sounds to transmit the simple idea that it feels good or that the alternative will make you feel bad. To his credit, Trump is offering tangible things that have some connection to practical reality.“I am ever-so-slightly worried that the You-Go-Grrl & Soy-Boy addictions to internet dopamine hits might now be so powerful that Insula-dominant neuropsychiatric structures have abandoned all classical sense of impending danger, and the addictions are propelling those kinds of personalities into valuing dopamine hits way over and beyond the ackshual real physical tangible objective threats to the physical existences of the bodies [and the brains] which house those personalities’ very existences.What do you do if a plurality of all Amurrikkkunz now pledge fealty to the “Muh Feelz” addiction to abstraction-generated dopamine hits, rather than to Reality Itself?tl;dr = The Frankfurt School & the Council of the Sanhedrin certainly know how to poison a culture and destroy its various personalities.===============For anyone who’s never read it, here’s the classic 2013 study on Insula-dominant personalities versus Amygdala-dominant personalities:https://tinyurl.com/y6arrwv8
TempoNick #418867 August 14, 2024 10:38 am -48
I don’t know. When I see the Zelensky’s face, he looks more Slavic than Jewish to me.
Wiffle #418885 August 14, 2024 10:57 am 29
Search engines are your friends. Jewish publications can be found crowing about his Jewish ethnic heritage and upbringing with a 2 keyword search. His PM is also Jewish by the same source in 2023
TempoNick #418905 August 14, 2024 11:25 am -22
I know he’s Jewish, but my people from the Balkans aren’t Jewish, and he doesn’t look too much different. He’d fit right in. He doesn’t look so much like a broad-faced Pole or a Ruskie, but he’d fit right in our region. Ukraine also has a lot of overlap with Bulgaria and Romania. In fact, I think there are Bulgarian and Greek enclaves within Ukraine. Just look where it is on the map.
Puszczyk #418913 August 14, 2024 11:46 am 5
I know some Bulgarians from Izmail (Odessaoblast). Zelensky indeed fits the Balkan phenotype more on some photos, but otherwise he has a rather south-eastern face. I’d probably look for his kinsmen in Crimea or the Middle Volga region if I knew nothing about him. His eyes are probably the most outstanding jewish trait especially on his earlier photos.
TempoNick #418929 August 14, 2024 12:07 pm -7
All I know is that when I’ve mentioned it to family members from over there, they concur that he looks like one of our people.
TempoNick #419023 August 14, 2024 7:47 pm -14
Please educate these buffoons who comment on this page. As of 8:45 pm, I have 28 downvotes for typing something 100% factual. People with this high level of ignorance make the rest of us look bad.
Puszczyk #419082 August 15, 2024 9:17 am 0
I’m not up for educating people, Americans in particular. This is not Reddit so I wouldn’t be afraid of negative karma points. Are you related to people from the Western Balkans? Jewish faces sometimes betray their ancestral area (Madeleine Albright comes to mind) so maybe that’s how you got the impression.
DaBears #418914 August 14, 2024 11:46 am 8
Bot. We are enemies.
TempoNick #418932 August 14, 2024 12:12 pm -12
Huh?
TempoNick #418968 August 14, 2024 1:52 pm -10
A bot can’t reply to you like I’m replying to you. So I guess we’re just enemies. 🤣
Mike #418923 August 14, 2024 11:59 am 15
He isn’t a Semite, he’s a Khazarian, the result of a mass conversion in the long past. They call themselves Jews but they aren’t, they’re Slavs pretending to be Jews.
Bourbon #419009 August 14, 2024 6:07 pm 4
For those who don’t know; “Khazarian” == “Ashkenazic”.
Ben the Layabout #418927 August 14, 2024 12:04 pm 13
Do not be deceived my Brother! They walk among us, I tell you!They can even assume our form! 😀
TempoNick #419022 August 14, 2024 7:45 pm -6
Here’s another one where the buffoons on this page go crazy downvoting something that is 100% factual. “Slav” does not only mean Pole or Russian. It means a lot of other things, too. It can mean Serbian, Bulgarian, Macedonian, Montenegrin or even Albania or Greece (yes, Slavs live there) … If he was walking on a sidewalk over there, just based on appearance alone, nobody would think that he wasn’t a local. When I was in Greece, everybody would start jibbering to me in their language which I do not understand.
NateG #419029 August 14, 2024 8:35 pm 8
Look at his staff and advisors. Oy vey, his number one looks like Jon Lovitz and another is a twin of the happy merchant.
Ben the Layabout #418925 August 14, 2024 12:02 pm 3
Hmmm….one would think a “guest” culture (or, at least at times, “parasitic”) would be mindful of the need to insure its host remains relatively healthy. Else (from the parasite’s point of view) the infestation will worsen until either the host somehow rids itself of the hangers-on, or else both weakened host and parasite die.
Xman #418947 August 14, 2024 12:55 pm 5
“All these people will pack up their valuables and leave for some Western country if Ukraine crumbles.” No… they’ll pack up and go to Haifa.
3g4me #418966 August 14, 2024 1:45 pm 24
No, they will go to NY and/or Miami. They will join the other 200-500,000 Israelis that already moved to the US. And that’s not counting all the dual citizens.
Pozymandias #419008 August 14, 2024 6:06 pm 1
I’m sure they’ll stop in Haifa or Tel Aviv on the way to the US East Coast.
Luthers Turd #419028 August 14, 2024 8:22 pm 0
Same thing….
Anglo-Welsh #418796 August 14, 2024 8:44 am 70
During the ’30s. the party line in Moscow changed with bewildering frequency, and commies around the world scrupulously followed each about-turn. Each time they doublebacked on themselves, they insisted that they had never thought anything different. We see people like this everywhere, every day now. We are surrounded by them. It is stunning, and deeply depressing, to behold so many who have renounced their reason so totally. People whose unspoken, but increasingly audible plea to the TPTB is “please tell me what to think”. The Comintern would have been awestruck.
Evil Sandmich #418822 August 14, 2024 9:40 am 22
In the videogame Warframe the villain had managed to install mind control devices on everyone in the solar system save two: the hero and his “mother” (long story). Anyway, the villain’s toadie is trying to assuage the raging villain and with a brush of his hand the villain remarks “I only care aboutthosetwo, I don’t care about all the other people, they were already waiting to be told want to think.”
Alzaebo #418972 August 14, 2024 2:20 pm -3
:Myself, I’m waiting for the Kingsman church scene.
Arthur Metcalf #418831 August 14, 2024 9:54 am 45
It is stunning, and deeply depressing, to behold so many who have renounced their reason so totally.One of every two days I am overcome with this feeling while in public. Soon it will be all of them. Deeply depressing is right. I have my own family ready to turn me in. I have a sister who now denies giving her children the vaccines when I have angry texts from her in 2021 warning me that if my failure to get vaxxed killed my mother she would have my head. I sent her a pdf of her texts and have not heard from her or her husband in six weeks. I take it they are enraged at me.I don’t feel at home anywhere now. I live in a purple state and am disabled and have no financial means to escape. (I’m not “disabled” by the state’s definition, I just can’t walk or see out of one eye. In my state, you are legally able to drive with just one eye.)
The Wild Geese Howard #418845 August 14, 2024 10:17 am 33
Commies hate being called out on their hypocrisy because it’s a total buzzkill for them.
Whitney #418868 August 14, 2024 10:39 am 32
I don’t think they remember. When the narrative changes for the future it seems to change their past in their mind also. Hence the incredible anger when presented proof of the their own words.
Alzaebo #418974 August 14, 2024 2:28 pm 6
Whitney’s comment, for some reason, strikes me as deeply important.I think that unnoticed, and rather revolutionary, insight could point to an image showing the change or difference in neurological function. A kind of learned autism or even Alzheimer’s, perhaps?The broken linkages of emotive or trauma conditioning.Orwell’s learned stupidity, or learned helplessness. These could even lead to imagery displaying what I call Infection, and what many call, Possession. An exploitable vulnerability.Just as Penitent Man’s comment points to a learnable armor.
pie #419031 August 14, 2024 10:02 pm 1
thinking its people being too lazy to learn and happy being “simple”. i have many varied interests which thankfully i can be proficient. trouble when picking up a subject i have not visited for years, the curve seems quite large. once i begin its not so difficult after all. maybe these people just see a stumbling block and move on in another direction. wide and unobstructed is the path to hell.
Alzaebo #418991 August 14, 2024 3:34 pm 8
Second comment on Whitney’s insight:My gosh, Whitney, you’re right. They get angry, and then they accuse you oflyingto them.
Penitent Man #418870 August 14, 2024 10:42 am 44
Fear not, for I am with you; be not dismayed, for I am your God; I will strengthen you, I will help you, I will uphold you with my righteous right hand.Isaiah 41:10Gentle your heart and be gentle toward the people around you, Brother. Stop seeing everyone around you as mindless automatons. Many feel as atomized as you.Some here will snicker at the “imaginary sky Santa” but never forget you are beloved child of God. You are never alone or forgotten.Instead of believing you are alone in a blasted desolate land… understand you move under the loving embrace Him and His Son. Around you among the ‘unreasoning’ masses are lonely and isolated folks just like you.You say you are half-blind but I think you have one good eye. Open it and see the souls moving about you. Be gentle and not loud, befriend people and try to love them. You may find that love reciprocated. In any outcome, you are never alone and never despised by Him that truly only matters.
Lineman #418887 August 14, 2024 11:01 am 12
Amen my Brother and Well Said…You are wisdom my friend…
Lineman #418904 August 14, 2024 11:19 am 8
Amen Brother…
pie #419032 August 14, 2024 10:05 pm 2
love. there is no defense for pure love.
Compsci #418877 August 14, 2024 10:48 am 19
I hear ya. Same somewhat in my situation. I have sat down with wife and spoke as softly as I can about her health and the need to consider her previous vexxination history in such discussions with doctor. One can’t unring a bell, but one needs to consider current symptoms in light of new knowledge of the adverse effects of such previous folly. You do no good in alienating yourself from those whom you love.
DaBears #418915 August 14, 2024 11:51 am 19
You publish intelligent guidance, Arthur. Many appreciate you.
Alzaebo #418976 August 14, 2024 2:34 pm 7
Hear hear to that, DaBears. I raise my glass to you, Arthur.
Moran ya Simba #419020 August 14, 2024 7:07 pm 6
Tough times ahead. I hope you’re one of those who’ll still be around on the other side
Matthwe Bennell #418903 August 14, 2024 11:19 am 10
“We have always been at war with Eastasia.” It’s one thing to hear this from ideological maniacs or public officials. It’s another thing altogether to hear it from normal human beings, and the best preparation for it is not Orwell butInvastion of the Body Snatchers.
Alzaebo #418984 August 14, 2024 3:06 pm 3
Indeed, I think that’s what the original 1956Invasionmovie authors were cleverly trying to warn us about, the same as the 1944 movieGaslighting. (Personal note, I remember seeing the original Invasion on b&w TV, that is, when TV was only in black&white. We were so innocent then.)
Greg Nikolic #419004 August 14, 2024 5:52 pm -2
In the original1984novel, the hero works for the government before gradually becoming an independent thinker. In our world, he would probably be scanning the internet for interesting political articles to read when he stumbled upon a site like ZMan’s which triggered a series of nonconformist thoughts … It is possible to read correct “disinformation” like this site’s, but you have to be lucky enough to find it…— G.N. (www.dark.sport.blog)
usNthem #418812 August 14, 2024 9:23 am 43
It’s been obvious to us on the DR that gibbering Joe was never calling the shots over the past four years. Now, since Biden has been officially deep sixed, it’s amazing (sort of) that no one in the media (lol), or in general aren’t questioning who the hell is running the show – and is there actually a president. Congress isn’t doing anything, Harris and her perv in waiting certainly aren’t. Apparently the nyt had an article about the fact AA secdef Austin (lord help us) has ordered more naval assets into the ME area – not congress, not Biden etc. – but do they think this really a problem? It’s pretty much been the same for the past couple of decades. This govt is a rudderless ship out of control.
Jack Dobson #418833 August 14, 2024 9:57 am 15
Most people frankly do not care that they no longer have any input into “their” government, to the extent they ever did. As long as bellies are full and they have warm shelter in the winter, dictatorship is fine with them. Much of the open descent into totalitarianism is in anticipation of the day hunger and exposure become widespread, but even past examples such as the Soviet Union or North Korea today realize there is a floor to deprivation. Even the replacement populations across Europe and North America will have limits.
WillS #418857 August 14, 2024 10:27 am 39
I’m not sure TPTB have considered there are any limits to immigration or deprivation. Their casual dismissal of the skills required to maintain a complex society will leave them baffled at the collapse caused by the disappearance of a competent work force. It would be funny if it wasn’t so tragic.
Jack Dobson #418888 August 14, 2024 11:01 am 9
TPTB fully understand it, but their Help ‘n Ho’s very well may not since they are selected in part for stupidity.
Mow Noname #418911 August 14, 2024 11:35 am 25
Quick: does anyone know how to run a nukulear powder plant? All sorts of lights are flashing and a siren started blaring constantly (we took the battery out so that it would stop bothering us).
Penitent Man #418920 August 14, 2024 11:56 am 18
Ask the new South Africans. I’m pretty sure they still haven’t removed the dead battery from the chirping alarm though.
Alzaebo #418987 August 14, 2024 3:18 pm 7
Bwana Great White Hunter kill de ceiling bird!
Ostei Kozelskii #418975 August 14, 2024 2:29 pm 4
Not to worry. It’s just a routine turbine trip… %2Frevision%2Flatest%3Fcb%3D20140215014904&f=1&nofb=1&ipt=c18c1c102aef4fcf97e166136d8242e2f7f1d03513490bba7cbee2de871f7ceb&ipo=images
Compsci #418986 August 14, 2024 3:18 pm 10
An interesting blast from the past. That movie perhaps cemented the prejudice against nuke power at the time. Entire plants in testing phase were shut down in that era costing consumers billions of dollars. All new plants were cancelled. The irony is that such plants are obsolete and current designs for new plants simply shut down—not melt down—if the worst happens as depicted in that farce of a movie—really a propaganda film against the nuke industry.
flashing red #419003 August 14, 2024 5:38 pm 0
Homer, Lenny and Carl.
pie #419033 August 14, 2024 10:31 pm 6
i am retired from infrastructure in america and can attest to the positivity of your claim. took retirement a bit early to avoid the mandatory clot shots. whew. how quickly things change for the worse when the tolerance door opens. im talking about tolerance for stupidity. to make things worse stupidity is promoted. i doubt you will find very few in infrastructure today who will question management who bends or breaks the rules. its just too corrosive to make a stand for safety.
flashing red #419002 August 14, 2024 5:37 pm 4
Here in the NW, power out for several hours (a first since 2020), because some dumb farmers cows scratched their backs against a newly installed un-reinforced power pole.
Montefrío #418924 August 14, 2024 11:59 am 8
Even the replacement populations across Europe and North America will have limits. I wish I were as sure as you seem to be. My belief is that those limits are determined by the flow of free shit. If it stops, then perhaps their limits will have been reached. If not, well, they’re not referred to as “Los de abajo” (as in “deplorables”) for nothin’. The upside is that most of the “foreign” ones (as in those in Europe) have begun approaching their limits and–miracle of miracles!–so have the natives. The US-domestics both native and foreign, not so much.
Brave Luthrainian #418839 August 14, 2024 10:14 am 6
It’s easy, just visualize a boat with oars only on one side, round and round they go, but at least they are getting somewhere, all together now. Stroke-stroke!
Pozymandias #418909 August 14, 2024 11:33 am 9
I don’t know if the Secdef has the authority (legally) to order forces to deploy but really, in a country that fights wars without ever actually declaring war, I doubt it matters anymore. Of course, the movie Dr. Strangelove gives you an idea of what this kind of diffusion of power can lead to. Hopefully we don’t have any aspiring Gen. Rippers waiting to nuke Russia. Of course, one of the few advantages of having a military that values “inclusion” more than martial valor is that there’s probably no one with the balls to pull such a stunt.
Jeffrey Zoar #418944 August 14, 2024 12:38 pm 10
Balls were mustered out of the GAE military long before they even got started on DEI. It’s been apparatchiks and yes men ever since the Vietnam era
manc #418918 August 14, 2024 11:55 am 21
Imagine being an American ally or adversary trying to figure out who’s really in charge.
Filthie #418836 August 14, 2024 10:09 am 36
Well it was obvious from Day One that the Ukes were going to lose. The second I heard the crap about the Russians were all drunken thugs, their equipment was no good, and that their economic conditions were comparable to Spain… I knew it was all over. It got ever worse from there. The pics of Uke grannies and teenaged bubble gummers with AK47s that would water their flower gardens with Russian blood made MY blood boil. Add to that – the western penchant for debacles like Viet Nam, the Sandbox wars, and the sinfully incompetent retreat from Afghanistan… the Ukes never had a chance and it was obvious from the start.I don’t think the elites will simply grab their stolen billions and sail off into the sunset either. Marie Antoinette, Nicolae Ceausecu, a metric ton of WW2 era Nazis and Japs ended up dancing at the end of a rope after they failed. If Zelnskyy somehow escapes from the Kraine and survives the wrath of his own people… I am betting he’ll not survive long. The Russians will put an end to him.We are going into a new era. Targetted assassination is now on the table for everyone including us.
Jack Dobson #418859 August 14, 2024 10:29 am 11
All true. Also, if Zelensky somehow ends up in Britain or the States, either of those governments are as likely to put a bullet into him as the Russians are. I can envision his reputed allies doing that before he gets out and then blaming the Russians or Azov, whichever makes for better propaganda.
Whitney #418881 August 14, 2024 10:50 am 30
It was amazing wasn’t it. They acted a country that produces copious quantities of chess grandmasters and elite mathematicians was filled with a bunch retarded drunks. So delusional. In addition to the fact that you should always act with prudence around people that keep bears as pets.
Lineman #418883 August 14, 2024 10:55 am 17
We are going into a new era. Targeted assassination is now on the table for everyone including us. I think most of our side is in the denial stage that they want us dead otherwise they would be doing something a lot different with their lives…
Vegetius #418937 August 14, 2024 12:29 pm 7
I think a lot of people who have swung around at least intellectually on the “they want us dead” bit are still in denial. Specifically, denial about what happens when a foreign war is used by a “Harris” administration to further domestic repression and dial the now-soft terror up a notch or five.A Trump DOJ might buy four more years of breathing space. A DOJ headed by Letitia James will not.Take the obvious example: poor Pete B may find that setting up his keep 30 miles from one of the largest concentrations of FB1 agents in the country was Before Time thinking.
Bilejones #419037 August 15, 2024 4:15 am 2
They seemed to have forgotten that for most of this century, until Musk came along, the US had to hitch rides to the space station on Russian rockets.How’s the crew up there now doing waiting for Boeing?
G Lordon Giddy #418792 August 14, 2024 8:41 am 36
The west has gone mad. We probably deserve cackles as our leader, at some point serious men must take the rein, but not before we probably go through some kind of very difficult period.A lot of people think Trump this time can turn the ship, I hope that’s true but I have my doubts.
Arshad Ali #418805 August 14, 2024 9:05 am 32
Legitimate doubts. I think he can retard the sinking of the ship but he cannot reverse it. To use another metaphor, that ship has sailed.
Montefrío #418939 August 14, 2024 12:31 pm 9
If James Bamford’s bookSpyfailis accurate,then DJT will be working for the Israelis as his primary consideration.They want him as USA presidentto back them up against Iran. Damn the torpedoes, full speed ahead.Although Argentine President Milei is an unabashed “semitophile”, as is DJT, Milei has been getting necessary things done here domestically. As for the global foreign policy/warfare sphere, the country may as well not exist. I see this as an advantage for the present. It most certainly isn’t for the USA, among the principal reasons I emigrated 25 years ago and landed up here, living the life of Reilly, to speak in terms of what is likely a long-forgotten metaphor. Let us hope that DJT takes this into consideration if he is elected. Nonetheless, with respect to Israel and his position vis-a-vis said country, the jury is still out. Vote for him as opposed to the other ticket, sure, but understanding the implications. Unless and until the Israeli factor is factored out, the USA and all who are plain-vanilla citizens thereof remain in jeopardy.
Alzaebo #418996 August 14, 2024 4:36 pm 2
The Technocrat faction backing Trump is the Paypal Mafia; the fact that this Palantir faction is run by a gay jew, Peter Thiel, tells me the Diaspora will continue to call the shots no matter who is in charge. Even a Trump needs powerful elite allies; we can only hope that moderates like a Trump and a Musk will exert a moderating effect for their people, that the Beast System will rush towards only a transhumanist future (that could have never happened without the whites!), and not necessarily towards a full genocide of the whites.
Dr_Mantis_Toboggan_MD #418817 August 14, 2024 9:32 am 62
I believe Trump can help delay the inevitable, but this country is doomed. Too many low-IQ ethnics, too much sexual perversion, an evil ruling class that hates the white people who built the country and too many people with the morality of prostitutes.
Arthur Metcalf #418834 August 14, 2024 9:58 am 39
People of Trump’s generation, and to an extent Gen X, do not understand true sexual perversion. Years ago on the defunct Salo Forum there was the fabled “GRIDS thread.” You can still find it online. Over the years I’ve tried to explain to other men the promiscuity of the homosexual male lifestyle and they refuse to believe it. You cannot do anything with such people.
Mycale #418835 August 14, 2024 10:02 am 31
A couple years ago, when monkeypox was spreading, a few people who caught it detailed the activities they engaged in before they contracted it, and the responses on then-Twitter were all like “wtf? People act like this?”. It was totally bizarre, degenerate, insane behavior to anyone who isn’t part of that group. The “we’re just like you/we just want to love” stuff was a conscious decision made by activists in the late 1980s or early 1990s, it was in a book, I think, that is not easy to find anymore. Movies like “Philadelphia” were made as part of this campaign.
Ben the Layabout #418940 August 14, 2024 12:31 pm 20
If you’ve a passing history with the AIDS epidemic beginning in the early 80s and all the hoopla surrounding it, you’d recall that it was spread primarily by homos acting promiscuously. This is covered in RFK’sThe Real Anthony Fauci. Fauci consolidated his power over funding etc. over HIV and his performance with Covid-19 was virtually a repeat performance. AIDS was first discovered by researchers studying other diseases in fags (hepatitis, I think). When you engage in unprotected anal sex with multiple random strangers, take various dangerous recreational drugs, and do God knows what else to your body, you’re probably setting yourself up for all manner of health problems. M[onkey]Pox is only the latest one to hit the news, fanned by the power- and grant-seeking usual suspects.
Compsci #418993 August 14, 2024 3:50 pm 1
I can’t help but comment here that a few vaccine *mandates* are based upon protection from such voluntary acquired diseases, i.e., STD’s. If you call attention to such and beg “out of the program” you are considered a bigot. Got to take one for the team, don’t you know?
Jeffrey Zoar #418854 August 14, 2024 10:26 am 18
It’s not that hard to explain to normal men. Tell them, picture if every woman you thought was hot wanted to bang you. Every single time you went to the bar you knew you were going to go home with a hottie. In those circumstances, how would you behave? That’s more or less what it’s like for a homo. That’s the big picture anyway. I don’t care to get into the finer points.
Felix Krull #418882 August 14, 2024 10:55 am 16
If only it were that simple. Gays are not just guys with crossed wiring. A cornerstone of their sexuality is getting off on the transgression of itself – that’s why so many of them are into extreme stuff on top of their homosexuality. Barf alert:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NrhF62zJ9Ls
Ostei Kozelskii #418897 August 14, 2024 11:09 am 36
Ain’t no way in hell I’m about to click on that link…
Lineman #418907 August 14, 2024 11:26 am 11
Yea me either…
Felix Krull #418910 August 14, 2024 11:35 am 18
Bigots!
Penitent Man #418933 August 14, 2024 12:14 pm 25
Its not just the “getting off on the transgression of itself”. Part of it is wiring, not so much “crossed wiring” from birth, rather tampered or short circuited wiring during fundamental stages of development.The percentage of homosexual adults molested in childhood through adolescence is staggering. They even joke in circle about the “uncles”.Tampering with normal burgeoning sexuality in the young will cause aberrations in sexuality or sexual mentality later in life.Homosexual advocates will say that these young people or children were simply pursuing their natural proclivities. These same people would ironically rail against the idea that a woman wearing a short skirt in a dingy bar wanted to be raped. It’s a perverse reversal of blaming the victim.Compare self-identifying molestation victim numbers in the homosexual vs. heterosexual populations and you will see why up to this point in the Christian West we have kept sexual deviants away from children.
Dr_Mantis_Toboggan_MD #418989 August 14, 2024 3:26 pm 13
As I’ve said for years: Gay men and lesbians reproduce by molestation. It’s a classic example of Satanic inversion. No one was “born this way.” Our Billy wasn’t born a criminal, Clarice. He was made one through years of systematic abuse. Billy hates his own identity, you see, and he thinks that makes him a transsexual. But his pathology is a thousand times more savage and more terrifying.
Pozymandias #418945 August 14, 2024 12:40 pm 15
The recent movie about Jeffrey Dahmer featured a fairly honest coverage of the “gay nightlife”. It’s sad that you have to watch a serial killer movie to get an honest look at the gay scene (bathhouses, anonymous sex, weird kinks). Even most of the people who watched that movie probably don’t get that the whole gay experience is sort of a vast rainbow of weird perversions.Long term couples who don’t do anything too weird (assuming you can get past the buttsecks) are the exception but are portrayed as the rule (“they just want to find a partner and get married like everyone”). Dahmer the cannibal was an outlier to be sure but he was merely at the extreme edge of a distribution of behaviors that are all pretty bizarre and sickening.
Compsci #418950 August 14, 2024 1:04 pm 16
I’d add in the nature of the sexes. Women have never been “wired” as man have. Men are designed to have high amounts of sex, women are the gatekeepers. Sex to men is something different than to women who have more at stake in the act, like child birth. Now imagine a scenario where men react to other men as most men react to women. In short, where are the homosexual gatekeepers? Answer, there are none or few). So the sex between homosexual men tends to be rampant and promiscuous in the extreme.
rasqball #418997 August 14, 2024 5:09 pm 5
The sexuality of males withoutFemale temperance is a frightening thought:Beyond pathological, without doubt,
Wiffle #418899 August 14, 2024 11:14 am 20
“People of Trump’s generation, and to an extent Gen X, do not understand true sexual perversion” The West has been struggling with sexual promiscuity for perhaps all of the 20th century. However, before the Boomers it was all in the closet. The ever rising hemlines, etc were signs of problems. The bikini culture of the 1960’s was another warning.However, when the Boomers came of age, they embraced vice as virtue. Gen X has never known a different world. Such people have no moral authority to reign in more serious problems, nor can they imagine a world of extreme perversion.
The Wild Geese Howard #419018 August 14, 2024 6:56 pm 7
This board used to have a poster under the handle, “The Infant Phenomena,” that claimed they spent decades studying gay male behavior patterns at the CDC. I believe he described his work as, “soul-dissolving,” or something similar.
WillS #418841 August 14, 2024 10:14 am 21
Prostitues are honest and honorable compared to this lot.
Montefrío #418943 August 14, 2024 12:37 pm 8
Yes, there´s truth in that, but prostitution iscoldand for any man with a sense of humility and shame, it’s nothing more than masturbation with a live prop. Jeez, guys, are you willing to settle forthat?
Apex Predator #418967 August 14, 2024 1:47 pm 16
There are a fair number of miserable marriages that are also -cold- where the wives perform mechanical sex only when absolutely required. Guess what? They cost a LOT more than a one and done with a paid professional. Read some forums describing this process from men talking about the “pity f-ck” they are given once every few months or once a year by disinterested wives.This is not a ringing endorsement of prostitution merely an observation that in many cases, you pay one way or another for ‘masturbation with a live prop’. For the vast majority of men in the West, the marriage contract is a sucker’s bet at BEST.
Ostei Kozelskii #419024 August 14, 2024 7:52 pm 11
But the hubby has to meet the wife halfway. In other words, if he spends all his time turniping out in front of the boob toob, watching sportsball with a bucket of pork rinds and a drum of Coors and lets himself go to pot in consequence, she’s under no obligation to surrender the pink to his sorry, rancid ass. Make a good faith effort to age as well as possible and it’s a different story.
Alzaebo #418998 August 14, 2024 5:10 pm 2
I’m rather a fan of hetaerae, let women be women, and run that show. It’s scummy male pimps that ruin the industry.Let’s have some commonsense traditions to limit the downsides. The Filipinos told me they’d go see the prostitute so they could pour out their problems with their wives to an understanding ear. Those working girls were marriage counselors.Wives in Reno sent their husbands to the Mustang Ranch when they were too pregnant to have relations.
Compsci #418851 August 14, 2024 10:22 am 6
If there ever was an award for the most succinct—and complete, expression made in a comment, this one would get it.
Lineman #418869 August 14, 2024 10:41 am 8
Agree, question is What are you/we prepared to do about it? Are we just going to sit by and watch it happen, knowing we are dooming our future generations by being inactive…Are we going to be like those Solzhenitsyn talked about not loving freedom enough and deserving everything that happened to us or can we learn enough from the past so we don’t repeat it…
Wiffle #418902 August 14, 2024 11:18 am 6
We can learn by discipling ourselves on the personal fronts, including food/other impulses.As I mentioned the other day, as much as I admire Solzhenitsyn, he was writing up a fantasy of how the world works. He never took his own “advice”. By as early as the 1950’s the totalitarian impulses of the USSR had great softened. Writing a bunch of books is hardly leading the resistance.Solzhenitsyn also talked about not loving/thinking about God enough. That’s maybe more worthy of consideration.
Ostei Kozelskii #418850 August 14, 2024 10:22 am 13
I dare say we’re going through a “very difficult period” right now. Of course, it can always get difficulter.
Lineman #418872 August 14, 2024 10:43 am 6
Oh it definitely will Brother…War is inevitable at this point…Got Tribe…
Eloi #418878 August 14, 2024 10:48 am 2
The worst is not so long as we can say, “This is the worst.”
herrman #418795 August 14, 2024 8:44 am 33
The recent Ukrainian excursion is basically the ardennes breakout: the last desperate gasp of a failing military strategy. Roll the dice, go for broke. After some initial success it is fated to turn out the same. After the Bulge the Wehrmacht never had a significant offensive again, and it was only a matter of time till the end. Of course the other lesson here is the leadership of Germany at that time decided to bring the county down with it. Imagine how things might have been different if that bomb under the table had managed to blow Hitler to bits…
Jeffrey Zoar #418801 August 14, 2024 8:53 am 14
Isn’t it curious how Churchill and Roosevelt would have wanted Von Stauffenberg to fail
Arshad Ali #418803 August 14, 2024 9:03 am 24
The “Battle of the Bulge” had more serious thinking and planning behind it than this half-assed venture. And of course vastly more resources allocated. But otherwise, yes, it’s the last gasp.
Dr_Mantis_Toboggan_MD #418816 August 14, 2024 9:30 am 18
It’s like the related Operation Bodenplatte that was the end of the Luftwaffe. Sure, they caught hundreds of Allied planes on the ground and destroyed them, but when American factories were producing 35 P-51s PER DAY, what did the loss of a few planes matter? It turned out to be a disaster for the Luftwaffe as they lost precious, irreplaceable pilots and aircraft for little gain. This is a desperate, last-chance gambit by the Ukies to improve their hand at the negotiation table. Like most of these types of offensives, it is doomed to fail.
Felix Krull #418865 August 14, 2024 10:35 am 30
Luftwaffe was all but useless at that point, as they had more planes than they had the fuel or the pilots to fly. The world’s first jet fighter was taxied around the runways using mules, because there was no diesel for the tractors.The Germans fought to the last bullet because they had good reasons to believe that they’d be wiped out, Cartago-style, if they lost. Not only had Western leaders said that in public numerous times, but the murderous bombing war left little doubt as to the Allies’ intention towards the German Problem. Putin has made no similar threat to annihilate the Ukrainian people, so let’s hope this war will be over by Christmas.I doubt, though, that there’ll be a cushy pension awaiting Zelensky in Israel, considering the money and embarrassment he has cost his masters. He will be sacrificed like a chicken and carry their sins to his grave.
Paintersforms #418900 August 14, 2024 11:14 am 9
When I was a kid, my grandpa told me towards the end of the war, the Germans were sending teenaged boys out to fight. They had guns but little or no ammo. Iirc, he was in Grimma, Saxony, when the war ended, where they’d met the Soviets. He wouldn’t talk about what he saw there, but it was clear he hated Russians the rest of his life for it.I guess I get why the Germans would fight the Soviets to the last, but I don’t know why they didn’t surrender to the western powers. Not that we were so humane in war, but certainly we were kinder in peace. Morgenthau plan was a kind of German Reconstruction, I suppose, but cooler heads prevailed there, too. Sure beats expulsion, and whatever my grandpa wouldn’t talk about.
Arshad Ali #418908 August 14, 2024 11:32 am 7
“Not that we were so humane in war, but certainly we were kinder in peace.” There’s that divide between West Europeans (German, Scandinavian, Austrian, French, British, Italian, Dutch, Belgian) on one side and Slav on the other And it showed itself in the way the Germans and Russians fought each other. That divide remains to the current day.
Paintersforms #419012 August 14, 2024 6:37 pm 1
Definitely bad blood between Germans and Slavs. Long way back, I think.
Ostei Kozelskii #419025 August 14, 2024 7:54 pm 5
Back to the Baltic Crusades by the Teutonic Knights beginning in the 13th century, at least.
Compsci #418946 August 14, 2024 12:46 pm 5
The surrender came once Hitler left the scene. As with Zelenskyy, he had his mad adherents like theGestapoto maintain obedience/fear until the end. And they did surrender, wherever possible, to the allies rather than the Russians—but there’s only so much you can do. I have read numerous articles/discussions on divisions making their way West rather than East to escape Russian capture.
Anna #418994 August 14, 2024 3:57 pm 5
Painter:Russians soldiers raped every single German woman (and girl) they encountered.
Ostei Kozelskii #418995 August 14, 2024 4:16 pm 8
Every single one, huh? Hm. Seems to me WWII completely blew the doors off the competition when it came to generating wildly hyperbolic propaganda claims.
john smyth #419013 August 14, 2024 6:37 pm 4
Soviet Unknown soldier statues in Berlin and Vienna were known as the “Unknown Rapist” statues . . . so not too much of an exaggeration unfortunately. https://www.theguardian.com/books/2002/may/01/news.features11
Dr_Mantis_Toboggan_MD #418954 August 14, 2024 1:08 pm 2
Luftwaffe was all but useless at that point, as they had more planes than they had the fuel or the pilots to fly. The world’s first jet fighter was taxied around the runways using mules, because there was no diesel for the tractors. No doubt. Hence we went so hard after the oil refineries at Ploesti in Romania with a ruinous loss of bombers in several raids. Fisher-Tropsch process-sourced gasoline was a dead-end as well for the Germans.
Gideon #418807 August 14, 2024 9:10 am 27
“Imagine how things might have been different if that bomb under the table had managed to blow Hitler to bits.” — It would hardly have mattered. The Allies were unwilling to negotiate (“unconditional surrender”) and Germany’s fate would be decided at conferences of Allied leaders.
Epaminondas #418858 August 14, 2024 10:28 am 32
The Russians were bitter about this. Stalin pointedly asked Roosevelt at Yalta why Americans and Brits were insisting on unconditional surrender. The Russians wanted the fighting to stop and a change of leadership in Berlin, not some crazed, catastrophic struggle to the last German soldier. They also did not understand why we were bombing civilian ares to rubble when it would only complicate matters when the Germans finally did surrender. It seems American leadership continues to be led by the ghost of William Tecumseh Sherman.
TomA #418827 August 14, 2024 9:46 am 10
If Ukraine had a Heinz Guderian, he might actually have succeeded in the sprint to the Kursk NPP, captured it, surrounded it, and filled it with explosives thus turning it into the world’s largest dirty bomb. Then holding it hostage while negotiating with Moscow is a strong hand to play. So not a bad gambit, just lacking in the right leadership and some luck. Russia dodged a bullet IMHO.
Jeffrey Zoar #418838 August 14, 2024 10:12 am 16
eh, I dunno, the superior German fighting man and the superior German organizational structure in which he worked made a lot of generals look like geniuses. Not to say that the generals were lacking, but in this case, it takes a village. Or rather, an army.
TomA #418912 August 14, 2024 11:40 am 7
Guderian was one of the key people in the Wehrmacht that built the organization of which you speak. But it is said of great football coaches that they can take their team and beat yours, then take your team and beat theirs.
mmack #418840 August 14, 2024 10:14 am 8
I take it more as a Doolittle Raid as someone mentioned on Sev’s site. (You really should visit)An attack to show “Hey, we’re still in this thing!” And a desperate attempt to make one’s opponent pull troops from other areas and hopefully force a strategy change.The original Doolittle Raid, and the Battle of the Coral Sea, convinced the IJN to go “all in” on the Battle of Midway. Which was a close run thing.Of course, it WAS the available might of the USN vs. the IJN.In the case of Ukraine, what happens once this feint is pushed back costing troops, equipment, and supplies that couldn’t be spared? Does someone crack open some nuclear sunshine?
Severian #418919 August 14, 2024 11:55 am 10
Every day I get more scared that the answer is “yes.” That’s the kind of Very Clever move that would appeal to the Very Clever Boys running Biden…errr, Kamala, or, you know, whoever — hand Zelensky some tactical nukes, and whatever “he” “decides” to do with them, that’s his business! AINO’s Very Clever Boys come from the Monty Burns school of accountability: “I can’t be held responsible for what my goons were hired to do!”
Maxda #418844 August 14, 2024 10:16 am 9
Like the Bulge, it will get pinched off and the troops inside will be slaughtered until they surrender enmass.
Felix Krull #418874 August 14, 2024 10:44 am 5
Half the German troops escaped the Bulge because someone failed to slam the door on the Falaise Gap.
herrman #418890 August 14, 2024 11:04 am 5
It’ll be interesting to see if the Russians are smart enough to take advantage of the opportunity they’ve been given here. Let the Ukrainian units get too far in to effectively retreat, then give em the Zulu buffalo horns treatment like Maxda predicts. .
Felix Krull #418895 August 14, 2024 11:09 am 3
They’re smart enough to think it, certainly, but are they good enough to execute it? It’s not as easy as it looks, apparently. The Russians only managed it successfully twice: At Khalkhin Gol and at Stalingrad.
Maxda #418977 August 14, 2024 2:37 pm 3
Russians are smarter than Monty.
tamerlane #418999 August 14, 2024 5:17 pm 4
The Americans/Canadians/British did not have the troops to put enough divisions in the way of the retreating German army group. WW2 was not a computer game where you encircle an army group with a couple of divisions. It wasn’t failure it was a wise choice. The troops plugging the hole would have been slaughtered.
Pozymandias #418901 August 14, 2024 11:17 am 5
Severian posted some graphs a few days ago showing past incursions and their result. The usual result of these things, when the defenders are stronger than the attackers, is that the defenders move in to cut of the salient, surround it, and then destroy it at leisure. Part of me wonders if the Russians actually baited the Ukies into doing this so that they could justify refusing to talk to Zelensky. Of course, they can’t admit that because it would mean they were being irresponsible with the lives of their own people around Kursk.Of course, we all know that “4D chess” explanations are seldom right. Talk about narratives though. Most Americans don’t know Kursk from ketchup but every Russian knows exactly what happened there in WWII.
Ostei Kozelskii #418978 August 14, 2024 2:37 pm 4
Kursk–wasn’t that something Babe Ruth put on the Boston Red Sox for selling him to the Yanks?
Lakelander #418980 August 14, 2024 2:39 pm 9
To Ukraine and it’s Western fluffers, the Kursk incursion is a great success because it ‘humiliated Putin’. Nearly every mainstream article I’ve read about the situation has cited this while spinning their narrative. If you can’t win a real war, win an imaginary one.
Pickle Rick #418791 August 14, 2024 8:39 am 33
It would be supremely, Alanis level ironic, if this turns into a 1979 style Iranian Revolution in Western Ukraine and they turn on the West and their CIA installed puppet ruler for using them as disposable Slavs. How do you say “Great Satan” in Ukrainian?
Compsci #418821 August 14, 2024 9:40 am 4
Same as in English…”Putin”! 😉
Ostei Kozelskii #418846 August 14, 2024 10:18 am 33
If anybody deserves to be Ceausescud, it’s Zelensky. Or maybe it’s Starmer. Belay that–Trudeau. You get the photo.
Alzaebo #418988 August 14, 2024 3:25 pm 2
“And Harris-Walz is in the dugout, warming up…”
Mr. Generic #418849 August 14, 2024 10:21 am 23
Very unlikely. The CIA-backed psy-op to push anti-Russian hatred has been going on for decades and has been very, very successful. Galicians (i.e., the only people that actually spoke proper Ukrainian before their government began mandating it) absolutely hate, hate, hate Russians. This is why it is so easy for them to find volunteers for these suicide missions. These men would gladly die if it gives them one opportunity to terrorize and murder ethnic Russian civilians.
catdog #418866 August 14, 2024 10:37 am 4
This is also the impression I’ve gotten in my conversations with them.
Vizzini #418898 August 14, 2024 11:11 am 11
The world would have been spared a lot of trouble if all the people of Galicia had been wiped off the map 150 years ago or so. The amount of strife that can be traced directly back to those people or their diaspora is quite amazing.
Hemid #418906 August 14, 2024 11:25 am 4
It’s an American fantasy that the people of former Soviet countries are anti-communist. Not many more than the few who went to the trouble to “defect” are. But they do hate Russians—and not the kind of Russians who ruled them. They learned from those masters: The more powerless the Russian, the more they hate him. They relish the deaths of innocents caught on the wrong side of a moving border, of “meatgrinder” conscripts and unsuspecting beachgoers. NATO putsloser bloodon their screens. Cue local patriotic music.
Greg Nikolic #419005 August 14, 2024 5:57 pm -1
Hemid, the powerless are always hated. The bible claims that the meek will inherit the earth, but in reality, if you have nothing and cannot defend yourself adequately, you will get a kick to the neck by strangers 9 times out of 10, and 1 time out of 10 some sap will be generous toward you … but the odds don’t favor it.— G.N. (www.dark.sport.blog)
Pickle Rick #418871 August 14, 2024 10:43 am 32
What I found to be the most indicative of Russia as a serious nation is that Putin relieved of command the generals who have failed in this war, something AINO has not done for well over 80 years, when generals and admirals found wanting in 1941 and 1942 were ruthlessly culled. Since 1944, US military failure is rewarded, not punished.
Marko #418793 August 14, 2024 8:42 am 28
The entire [Harris-Walz] production is a collection of symbolic shapes and sounds to transmit the simple idea that it feels good or that the alternative will make you feel bad. This, unfortunately, may be a winning strategy.
Bartleby the Scrivner #418815 August 14, 2024 9:28 am 16
Similar to “feelies” in A Brave New World”. All that is needed now is some Soma..
Jeffrey Zoar #418832 August 14, 2024 9:56 am 19
Weed shops popping up everywhere
The Wild Geese Howard #418847 August 14, 2024 10:19 am 20
That is exactly what it is. It may work because the vast majority of Western populations are totally infantilized.
Xman #418951 August 14, 2024 1:05 pm 17
And feminized… but that’s pretty much the same as infantilized.
Alzaebo #418992 August 14, 2024 3:49 pm 1
Don’t forget the rightwing feelies!
Epaminondas #418848 August 14, 2024 10:20 am 26
I was listening to Scott Ritter this morning before coming here. Scott said that the Russians view the incursion into Kursk as a NATO invasion, because without US and NATO equipment and space-based surveillance, it would not have been possible. Apparently, according to one of Scott’s well-placed sources inside Russia, the military high command in Moscow is readying something very big to rid itself of the criminal gang in Kiev. Scott further stated that Russia is going to definitely take Odessa, Karkhov, and perhaps Kiev itself now that it no longer sees any point to negotiating with the West. It sounds like we should strap in for something spectacular over the horizon with regard to Ukraine.
Compsci #418862 August 14, 2024 10:31 am 7
In other words the “big arrow” offensives we have been awaiting for over two years now. Seems reasonable given the turmoil in the US and the mounting casualties.
Jeffrey Zoar #418884 August 14, 2024 10:57 am 1
I question if such offensives are possible in the face of current year integrated battlefield ISTAR (Intelligence, Surveillance, Target Aquisition, Reconnaissance). We likely would have seen them already if they were. Of course the Ukes pulled a little one here, but Russia is at an ISTAR disadvantage to the GAE. That’s just a fact. Anyhow, if Ritter knows it’s coming, so does the GAE. So just a question if they are still packing enough ordnance and men to defend.
Compsci #418936 August 14, 2024 12:26 pm 13
You can have all the satellite intelligence that the GAE can feed you, but it’s for nothing if you’ve no weaponry to reach out and stop the enemy. Uke’s have little to nothing left, and certainly have never controlled the air since the initial incursion.
Jeffrey Zoar #418957 August 14, 2024 1:22 pm 6
We’ve been over that here ad nauseam of course, but the facts on the ground say that so far, they’ve had enough to fight a successful defensive war. Maybe that is about to break here in the next month or three, maybe they are about to falter, maybe the denouement is finally coming, but none of that has happened yet.
Compsci #418982 August 14, 2024 2:59 pm 5
They fight a defensive war because Russia allows them to. The strategy has never been to overwhelm and penetrate, simply to chew them up, while defending the newly annexed Russian speaking “oblasts”. For this entire year, the Uke’s have lost every objective the Russians have attacked.Because there are no deep penetrating offensives, the Uke’s are allowed to spread themselves out and fight along an 800 mile front. Mount a major offensive against an inner objective. Example, launch an attack fromBelarustowards the interior and open up a new front, and the Uke’s will crumble as they pull forces from the attack upon the oblasts.Oddly enough, the above tactic has been used recently by the Uke’s in their attack upon the Kursk region, as in a lightly defended area with little more than border guards. An attack that was stopped within days, since it was nothing more than a PR distraction and the Russians have plenty of reserves to stop these sideshows.If the Russians had used their current tactics against the Germans in WWII, we’d still be fighting in the East.
The Wild Geese Howard #419011 August 14, 2024 6:31 pm 3
Compsci- I think it’s more likely we see Russia execute a serious, long overdue decapitation strike on the Kiev regime.
Ben the Layabout #418963 August 14, 2024 1:39 pm 7
I’m unfamiliar with Mr. Ritter, but my innate skepticism requires me to think “blogger = journalist” and thus a profit motive. He has a market and that market wants stories. Now I ask you, just as a naïve guess, what is the probability that any Western hack would have a highly placed source in Russia? Pretty close to zero. And even if he did, “something big coming up” would be standard propaganda. Mr, Ritter may offer up entertainment, but hard info? Color me a doubter. Why would anyone believe his alleged source any more than the “sources” Regime media always whispers of? It’s all bullshit until proven otherwise.
Compsci #418985 August 14, 2024 3:07 pm 12
You don’t know Ritter. He’s retired Army and was the chief UN arms inspector in Iraq. He is wined and dined by the Russians, hence his current troubles with the FBI investigating him as an unregistered foreign agent. Last week they raided his home in NY. There are many reasons to suspect Ritter of shenanigans, but he’s not a simple, ignorant blogger. He has “street cred’s” as they say. I don’t particularly trust him as I can’t get my head around such a close relation to Russian military from a (retired) US military officer.
The Wild Geese Howard #419014 August 14, 2024 6:40 pm 7
Comp- Ritter did extensive arms control inspection work in the USSR and Russia. He’s spoken about this in several interviews and he describes how he grew to become great friends with his Russian colleagues.
Compsci #419034 August 15, 2024 12:16 am 4
I don’t know about his arms control work in Russia, but the Iraq inspection from the UN is certain. He speaks about it often and was somewhat of a gadfly when Bush ll was trying to invade and promote the line of breaking the ceasefire on Iraq’s part. Ritter denied this.
Epaminondas #419021 August 14, 2024 7:11 pm 7
Do your homework, Ben. Ritter is a national treasure.
Auld Mark #419078 August 15, 2024 9:09 am 2
Agree,I also think his wife is Georgian, thus enhancing his knowledge of the area and it’s people. He is a Marine and a straight shooter.
pyrrhus #418802 August 14, 2024 8:57 am 25
Putin has said that negotiation is now off the table…The torture and murder of civilians in the Kursk region, some of which has been videoed, means that it is now war to the knife….no mercy
Lineman #418873 August 14, 2024 10:44 am 13
Let’s hope he really means it…
Maxda #418979 August 14, 2024 2:39 pm 4
Let’s hope he hurries it up and gets it done sooner than later.
Alzaebo #419001 August 14, 2024 5:21 pm -2
One frightening thought is that a constrained Putin is actually working (reluctantly) for the other side, slow-walking the war so as to kill more Slavs. Just as a constrained Trump and Musk are forced to work for the other side, in the end, as it’s unescapable.
Captain Willard #418798 August 14, 2024 8:47 am 22
In a weird way, the Ukraine tragedy shows that people will eat buckets of crap when their ruling Elites provide a compelling narrative for warfare, civil or external. It doesn’t exactly make me wildly optimistic about what’s coming for the US. You’d have thought that the Ukes would have already marched on Kiev with pitchforks and torches. So you can easily envision an army of Cat Ladies burning churches and hanging GOP leaders if the lunatics here gain unrestricted power.
Jeffrey Zoar #418808 August 14, 2024 9:17 am 27
The willingness of the Ukes to die for king and country is the remarkable thing. Because I cannot imagine an army of cat ladies doing anything of the sort, nor an army of grillers. Both those groups are glued to the sail foam. The cat ladies will snark and cheer as the white men in the employ of the security state vanquish their enemies, but they damn sure aren’t going to participate in any more meaningful way than waving signs and signaling their own virtue and obeisance to the regime.
Jack Dobson #418818 August 14, 2024 9:34 am 20
Ukraine’s sacrificial lambs are the rare exception and not the rule across the board and across time. The cat ladies and grillers who seamlessly move from one New Thing to the next New Thing yet never lift a finger are the norm. It is likely the United States itself goes out in a nuclear blaze of glory because literally no one with brains and/or courage would die for it in a conventional war now and because it is led by psychopathic trash. If mushroom clouds are avoided with this debacle, it will have been due to Russian indulgence. There are others with nukes just as crazy as the United States, of course, and there will be a Last Time, which if not this time could be the next time.
flashing red #418843 August 14, 2024 10:16 am 12
God gave Noah the “rainbow” sign, no more water, the fire next time.
Compsci #418842 August 14, 2024 10:15 am 38
“The willingness of the Ukes to die for king and country is the remarkable thing.”Is it a thing at all? Let’s take a contra position. War begins, half the country flees to the EU. Standing army is huge (est 600k) so the fighting begins. Even with the SMO of less than 100K in action, Uke’s give way. Ukes then counter attack and Russians rethink the war aims. After the Russians wake up, quadruple their forces, there are hundreds of thousands of dead Uke’s and no further Ukrainian progress on battlefield—rather the opposite.Ukraine begins to use “press gangs” to round up new cannon fodder and Zelenskyy has to strike deals with EU to “repatriate” military age men. Meanwhile, Russia avoids military action specifically designed to affect non-military Uke’s—like electrical grid. Russians do not strike shipments of civilian supplies. They even allow Uke commerce from ports on Black Sea. Ukrainian populace is not affected by war as was Europe in previous wars, with the exception of endless funerals to attend.Lately, no progress in obtaining negotiations, Russian capital gets droned and the Uke electrical grid is attacked. Most of Ukraine now rations electricity to a few hours per day, and rely on electrical imports from Poland. Exports and commerce ends for Uke’s. Pressure to end war builds from populace, but is met with Uke secret police. Example, Gonzalo Lira, an American blogger, is imprisoned and dies from maltreatment there. Elections are cancelled and Zelenskyy assumes dictatorial power.Meanwhile, rumors are that new Uke recruits are given minimal training and send to the front to die quickly. Videos circulate of Uke commanders surrendering rather than allow their men to be slaughtered through command incompetence and neglect. Russian policy of good treatment to soldiers surrendering seems to be effective PR.Can we really judge the “willingness” of the population in this war? 1) They’ve not experienced it until late. 2) They are scared and repressed from expressing their opinion on the war.In WWII, the Russians put up a pretty good front against the Germans once Stalin instituted a “no retreat” order backed by KGB forces behind the front line with machine guns and orders to shoot any Russian conscript who retreated or surrendered. I see little difference here.
Jack Dobson #418852 August 14, 2024 10:25 am 7
Brilliant analysis/comment, Compsci, and I learned from it. Thanks.
Wiffle #418896 August 14, 2024 11:09 am 7
Thank you for this. It’s easy to fall into “Why are they so stupid/brainless sheep.”
Felix Krull #418916 August 14, 2024 11:52 am 14
They even allow Uke commerce from ports on Black Sea.And Ukraine allows Russia to use pipelines running through Ukraine to sell gas to Europe. Pursuant the Hollywood Theory of Reality, it’s almost as if both sides are reading from the same script.The Russians put up a pretty good front against the Germans once Stalin instituted a “no retreat” order backed by KGB forcesThe strategy of using NKVD barricade troops to secure the valor of troops, was a disastrous failure, starting with the Winter War, where green, Finnish recruits reportedly wept with horror as they mowed down terrified waves of Russians caught between Finnish and NKVD machine guns. Terror can make soldiers advance, but it can’t make them fight.The Russians only started to fight well when the politruks were retired and the military was allowed to manoeuver, and when, simultaneously, the agitprop started to use defense of the Motherland, rather than the victory of Communism as a motivator.
Compsci #418948 August 14, 2024 12:55 pm 3
No argument here, butmanoeuver at the army command level is different from front line attack in battle. Hitler made the same mistake in his “no retreat” order to Paulus and lost an army group. Not sure a “hands off” approach wrt the military would have solved the issue of Russian mass surrender without much in the way of resistance.
Felix Krull #418958 August 14, 2024 1:28 pm 6
The problem with the early mass surrenders was that the Russians were not allowed to retreat out of the German envelopments, even if they knew they were being surrounded.The issue of barricade units seem to be somewhat exaggerated, and were only used on scale during the Winter War. Sure, there were NKVD-troops in the rear areas throughout the war, shooting deserters, but that was the case in Germany too, and even in the US, although American didn’t shoot deserters on the spot.As to Paulus, I don’t believe he had a stand fast-order, rather than being caught by surprise, thinking he had everything under control. Nobody suspected that the Russians could pull such a masterpiece out of a hat, and once he realized his mistake, the jaws of the trap had shut.
Compsci #418990 August 14, 2024 3:28 pm 3
Felix, I must admit to being out of my depth here on the subject and bow to your analysis.
Ben the Layabout #418949 August 14, 2024 12:59 pm 2
In the obviously fictional novelThe Third World War: August 1985which I read with interest as I was stationed in Germany the early 1980s, yes that point is mentioned. When the war breaks out, the front line Soviet troops know they have the KGB battalions behind them to discourage deserters. When the shooting begins, the frontline Soviets do an about face and become the Allied Vanguard attacking the Soviets. Realistic? I don’t know.
Captain Willard #418961 August 14, 2024 1:35 pm 6
Yes but this was a slow-moving train wreck. The Maidan crap was 2014. The SMO started in 2022. People had 8 years to make plans as the doo-doo was always going to hit the fan. I still think you have to be in awe of their willingness to take punishment, propaganda notwithstanding..
Wiffle #418893 August 14, 2024 11:06 am 7
I’m not sure the Ukes were willing to die. Assigning noble virtues to the Ukes as whole maybe a mistake.
Captain Willard #418959 August 14, 2024 1:33 pm 3
I hope you’re right Jeffrey but I wouldn’t want to be hogtied in a group of Cat Ladies.
Ostei Kozelskii #418855 August 14, 2024 10:26 am 13
Hate to say it, but the Ukes may be almost as stupid as “Americans.” And, of course, their virtuous patriotism is being used against them.
Lineman #418894 August 14, 2024 11:07 am 17
And, of course, their virtuous patriotism is being used against them.Sounds just like here at home Brother…How many southern sons have died for their conquerors that hate them..
Captain Willard #418962 August 14, 2024 1:37 pm 4
Yes that’s my point and we have to consider the universal propaganda machine’s ability to sway the entire world now. Ortega y Gasset and Goebbels could have never imagined this.
Wiffle #418892 August 14, 2024 11:05 am 10
“Grass roots” revolution is myth sold in part by the Jewish media. The eternal rebels love the idea that the peasants will be overthrowing the lords, the earthly equivalent of their spiritual rebellion. America is stable and sane because they take that to be fantasy that it is.I’m sure the Ukraines have resisted as much as they could. However, this is not the first time the Jews have made the land a mass grave, rather than a country.
Captain Willard #418964 August 14, 2024 1:39 pm 6
Well Yagoda and his crew did it in Ukraine before, so yeah. But I think there’s more at work here than just the standard neocon/Jewish stuff. I just can’t figure it all out and I may never.
Spingerah #418829 August 14, 2024 9:51 am 18
I hope to see the degenerate zelinski & his J crew up against a wall, last cig, black hoods pulled down. Ready, aim. Bang!Kursk once again blood soaked waste of an entire generation.
Severian #418922 August 14, 2024 11:59 am 17
Everything in AINO now reminds me of the “Do Long Bridge” scene fromApocalypse Now. There ain’t no fuckin’ CO. It’s every little pissant with a scrap of power doing his own thing, totally without reference to anyone or anything else. I wouldn’t be at all surprised to learn that some major decisions were made in / by / for Ukraine that were really all about bureaucratic turf fights between two desk jockeys somewhere in the basement of the State Department.
Mycale #418814 August 14, 2024 9:27 am 17
The USA’s behavior with regards to this operation is totally nonsensical, until you look at the people who have been making the decisions and realize this is simply the latest chapter in a long story of hatred and resentment that goes back to the Pale of Settlement. With that in mind, I find it hard to believe that the people in charge will be willing to cut their tribal brethren loose in order to appease their hated enemy. I just don’t see it. Somebody else – somebody competent and acting in the interests of our country – has to take the reins first.
stranger in a strange land #418941 August 14, 2024 12:31 pm 15
Just when I thought my loathing of this fellow could not increase – a portion ofL Graham press release while with fellow war hawk Blumenthal in Keeeeev: “Bipartisan support for Ukraine is critical to American interests, and we will do whatever we can in 2024 to build on these successes and secure additional future military aid necessary to maintain the momentum.“We urge NATO to issue an invitation this year to Ukraine for membership, making real what has been described as inevitable”. As a dog returns to it’s vomit, so a fool repeats his folly (lookin’ at you Lindsey)
Ostei Kozelskii #418837 August 14, 2024 10:12 am 15
“It is as if once the story is created, the writers are sucked into it, losing all control of the plot. All they can do is respond as if they are now unwitting characters in the story.” The death of the author. How very postmodern. People do not deploy language, rather, language constructs us.
TomA #418819 August 14, 2024 9:38 am 14
Yes, it’s time to start thinking about nuts & bolts. LEOs will be thrown into the fray as a first line of defense; and just as in Ukraine, a lot of good white guys will face off against other good white guys. The elites want mutual slaughter. Then will come the NG guys, mostly used for rounding up the “insurrectionists.” Again, manufactured mutual slaughter. Last will be the Jackboot Corp comprised of mercenary invaders. At that point, it’s all about population reduction via genocide. But we don’t have to suffer the same fate as Ukraine. Straight to the source of the problem. FPVs are a gamechanger. And its in our wheelhouse. Smarter, not harder.
LineInTheSand #418921 August 14, 2024 11:57 am 9
“FPVs are a gamechanger.” Maybe someday those discarded young men who have retreated to a sad and bitter life of video games will finally be able to put that quick hand-eye coordination to work. It would be satisfying redemption and revenge. At some point, certain people have specific addresses… For now, we must wait and watch foropportunities.And prepare, as TomA exhorts us.
WCiv911 #418926 August 14, 2024 12:03 pm 15
The Ukrainian war is just the Eastern flank of the war on White People. Russians, Ukes getting killed. All good.
Compsci #418938 August 14, 2024 12:29 pm 12
Actually, it is all good—not the Uke’s getting killed, but the resulting first rate expansion of the Russian military and production facilities. Russians were lulled into complacency and hence weakness. No more.
WCiv911 #418970 August 14, 2024 2:07 pm 8
Good point, Compsci. The Russians, may they go forth and multiply.
Hokkoda #419007 August 14, 2024 6:01 pm 11
Here’s a data point that I’ve never seen before: I get Reservists called up for orders all the time. As an employer, we’re required by law to let them leave, no questions asked, and give them their job back (or something similar) when they retire. I see these military orders a lot in my job.But until today, I had never seen orders for someone to report for an Inactive Ready Reserve “muster”. The IRR is what you transfer into if you leave (not retire) from the military, and you don’t join your local Guard/Reserve unit.Id be interested to know if anyone else has seen this, and whether it is common in your area. I found it odd and unsettling.My gut tells me war, a very big war, is coming later this year or early next. A friend has a son entering Navy ROTC this summer. His boy was told, point blank, you’re going to war with China in 2027. So you better be here for the right reason.The ruling class can’t risk Trump dismantling this disaster.
Ben the Layabout #418820 August 14, 2024 9:40 am 11
In the major media the past few weeks has been news of Ukraine’s impressive attacks on Kursk and other Russian soil. No one can be certain what’s true since the mainstream media is rightly suspected of being full of Regime propaganda. That the incursion is not fake news would seem supported by the “Other Side” (sample provided by Russia Today) that discusses the incursion. Mine is only a quick snapshot provided by competing headlines; I’m not attempting to find the detailed story, but to intuit what the two sides are claiming as their perspectives.That Ukraine invaded Mother Russia seems true beyond reasonable doubt; the only questions remain the details: to what degree, how successfully, was Russia taken unawares, and so forth.Within less than two months I’ve seen: the outgoing President long suspected of senility prove it outright during a live political debate; his abrupt decision to not stand for re-election delivered under most unusual circumstances; the appointment of an even worse stand-in for him; the opposition candidate missing an assassin’s bullet by mere centimeters; and who knows what else.Zman mentions the hundreds of billions sent to the Ukraine project. It’s worth speculating that a lot of those funds never reach the front. What portions of it vanishes into the “overhead” is anyone’s guess. I would guess most of it does. In addition to the perennial favorite “Ten percent for the Big Guy,” there are the endless middlemen whose palms must be greased, the intelligence agencies taking their cut, and miscellaneous miscreants. Even when materiel is sent, surely a large fraction of it diverts into the black market, ironically some of it finding its way into the hands of American’s “enemies.” The latest allegation but one by no means lacking credibility is the claim that a lot of the Ukraine funding is a de-facto money laundering operation. A lot of that money comes back to America to buy politicians.We surely live in entertaining times. This may be political theater, but it’s the theater of the absurd. Whatever dismal future awaits us plebs, we can at least hope neither side gets the itch to open up the canned sunshine.
Whiskey #418956 August 14, 2024 1:17 pm 10
Let me add, the Ruling Elite lives in its own narrative with risks inherent on that strategy. Pelosi and Obama pushed out Biden, but he and his followers are still in the White House. Angry. With Hunter knowing he is the designated fall guy and come his daddy’s exit from the White House he loses all protection.Hmm … what could possibly go wrong there? The smart move would have been to make Harris the President immediately, but that would have been messy. To win the narrative they pushed ol Poopin Joe out, but he still has months to go as President. Where he can (and probably will via Hunter) make trouble.Moreover there is revealed preference. The Ruling Elite did not want to chance Harris as President too early. Its like people seeing the Girl Boss posters for Furiosa, or the Marvels, and saying no thanks. Even the hint at Girl Bossery repels audiences even as it thrills Hollywood execs. Same here. If even Pelosi could not stomach President Harris now, why vote for the chief airhead. [Related, more and more Silicon Valley VCs are jumping on the Trump train, with all the risks if Trump loses to them personally, another went Trump and noted Lesbian Journalist Kara Swisher tried to cancel him. If even people like Ray Dalio are gambling on Trump despite the risks, what does that tell you about confidence in the Regime?]
Jeffrey Zoar #418965 August 14, 2024 1:42 pm 8
I give them credit for audacity. A day before it happened, nobody even believed a Kamala presidency was feasible. The media’s Kamalagasm, however astroturfed and fake it all is, was completely unimaginable. Yet just 3 weeks later, here we are.
Horace #418971 August 14, 2024 2:12 pm 4
Kamalamania makes me want to sing! “Everything is fake and gay! in the Empire of Lies and Usury!” *to the cadence of Monty Python’s Every Sperm is Sacred*
Nobar #419038 August 15, 2024 5:03 am 8
To most people here in Finland, and I assume in most of the West it seems the war in Ukraine is a safe feel-good entertainment that they can enjoy from the comfort of their couch. Any mildest suggestion of peace through negotiations provokes a similar reaction as though you’d just proposed their favorite sportsball league be shut down.
Moran ya Simba #418983 August 14, 2024 3:00 pm 6
Again, this psychotic detachment from reality is no way to run a lemonade stand let alone a civilization
DLS #418917 August 14, 2024 11:54 am 6
The only thing I disagree with is that Zelensky will not go willingly. Die or retire to Israel with most of Ukraine’s wealth is not a tough decision.
Anon701 #418811 August 14, 2024 9:21 am 6
>They will not go voluntarily, so it means the end game includes a civil war in Western Ukraine. IDK.Zelensky himself is both fabuously wealthy and in possession of a Brittish passport. It seems like he’d have strong reasons to just tap out before the palace coup stage, move into his London apartment, and spend the next 10 years collecting awards from Western NGO’s.
Jeffrey Zoar #418828 August 14, 2024 9:51 am 6
Seaside villa in Miami Beach, if I remember right
Daniel Bernard Respecter #418880 August 14, 2024 10:50 am 5
But the mansion in Israel might be off the table as an option. Ha!
c matt #418889 August 14, 2024 11:03 am 3
Plenty of cheap hit men in Miami.
Compsci #418856 August 14, 2024 10:27 am 8
Seems from past history (?) that bugging out after doing dirty to Putin gets you a polonium dirt nap no matter where you go—especially Britain.
Anon701 #418973 August 14, 2024 2:23 pm 2
Fair enough … thoughZelensky is just an adversary, not an appostate. I doubt Putin particularly cares about him as a person.
Ostei Kozelskii #418864 August 14, 2024 10:35 am 5
Never could know when his spotted dick would be seasoned with just a hint of polonium…
Zaphod #419017 August 14, 2024 6:52 pm 2
As for the various behind the curtain folks, they should bethink themselves of the fate of Polonius.
Bilejones #419164 August 15, 2024 12:00 pm 0
His wife just bought Sting’s (Gordon Sumner iirc) 20 hectare Tuscany vineyard for $25mill.
JaG #418790 August 14, 2024 8:38 am 6
It’s the same thought process by our betters that got rid of the filibuster, no second order thinking.
catdog #418863 August 14, 2024 10:32 am 5
Seems unlikely that the purpose of the Kursk attack was the NPP. Probably it was a preemptive attack to disrupt the upcoming Russian offensive against Sumy, which had been rumored for months to follow up on the Kharkov offensive. RU was reportedly demining the roads in the area. So UA rushed in as the castle gate was opened for a sally out, so to speak.Hard to say if it was a smart move or not. The entire point of a Russian attack on Sumy would be the extension of the front line, to stretch UA and force them to pull troops from the east, which has now happened anyway.
Johnny Ducati #418789 August 14, 2024 8:36 am 4
Where do we find this new ruling elite?
Compsci #418794 August 14, 2024 8:43 am 9
They’ll find you. The trick always is to keep tight reins on them, but alas that seems impossible. Power corrupts, absolute power…well, you know the adage.
Ben the Layabout #418928 August 14, 2024 12:05 pm 2
“But we needed somebody in accouting!”
G Lordon Giddy #418797 August 14, 2024 8:44 am 6
They will make themselves known by the current elites desire to destroy them.Musk for one is on this path.
G Lordon Giddy #418799 August 14, 2024 8:49 am 13
I am hoping for a Octavian vs Antony and Cleopatra type elite drama where the current elites commit suicide in their yacht named Anal.
Arshad Ali #418806 August 14, 2024 9:08 am 7
But keep in mind that that was “peak Rome”, where the republic was transitioning to an imperial ruling structure. We are not in “peak USA.” The empire is in freefall decline.
Jeffrey Zoar #418810 August 14, 2024 9:18 am 13
The CIA was Octavian. JFK and Marilyn were Antony and Cleopatra.
Ostei Kozelskii #418860 August 14, 2024 10:29 am 6
Just sit right back and you’ll hear a tale, a tale of a fateful trip…
Felix Krull #418891 August 14, 2024 11:04 am 14
If our current elites wanted to destroy Musk, they’d stop showering him with subsidies and they wouldn’t allow him to pollute low-earth orbit with 40,000 new birds that were financed by an unsecured pyramid scheme. He wouldn’t have big institutional investors pour tens of millions into his little car shop andhe wouldn’t be mentioned by Jewstream media at all. In fact, he’d be in jail for SEC fraud.Wait, what’s this? Musk just landed a CIA contract to build them a new network of spy satellites? Hmmm….https://www.reuters.com/technology/space/musks-spacex-is-building-spy-satellite-network-us-intelligence-agency-sources-2024-03-16/Musk is just playing the role of the villain, which requires that the regime media say the obligatory “Rocket Man Bad”-line.
Compsci #418953 August 14, 2024 1:08 pm 5
You’ve hit upon my thinking wrt his low level satellites—in essence a backup to our own gps system.
Felix Krull #418960 August 14, 2024 1:34 pm 6
Once Starlink goes bankrupt as planned, the US government will take over the network for pennies on the dollar.
Zaphod #419015 August 14, 2024 6:44 pm 3
Given the sheer size and in-built redundancies of these LEO constellations, it’s not difficult to imagine that Some of These Things are not Like the Others as we all learned from Sesame Street many long years ago. You can always hide a few special surprises inside a giant swarm of satellites.
Ostei Kozelskii #418981 August 14, 2024 2:57 pm 3
Perhaps the sat network will actually be programmed to spy on the CIA rather than for it. Sounds completely nutty, I know, but from 9/11 on, nutty is the new norm.
Zaphod #419016 August 14, 2024 6:45 pm 0
Perhaps. But it would still be a CIA program. Operation Klein Bottle.
Ostei Kozelskii #419026 August 14, 2024 8:04 pm 3
Unless there was an in-built alternative control program that would respond only to the Muskies’ commands. Don’t know if that’s even remotely possible. Just spitballing.
Marko #418800 August 14, 2024 8:51 am 14
I think one is forming up. They aren’t our guys, exactly, but they are a broad swath of rich people and other influencers who hate the woke/DEI stuff. Others just hate leftists, and others just like Trump and what he represents.I also think what you see in the MSM and party politics is largely being ignored anyway, by the “real” PTB. Those two dying entities feed each other and they still have legacy eyeballs (like boomers and normies) but they’re probably no more popular than Major League Baseball. In time, our transnational capitalist elite will be calling the shots, and the Washington establishment will be merely a tool and a joke.
pyrrhus #418804 August 14, 2024 9:04 am 11
And they hate DEI for concrete, not ideological reasons…it’s wrecking their businesses….
Anon701 #418813 August 14, 2024 9:25 am 6
They hate DEI because they’re worried that revolution will turn on them. (at least arguably, DEI/woke was a narrative created by the current elite as cover from the previous, OWS revolution).
Mr. House #418825 August 14, 2024 9:45 am 4
Again i take the opposite view, i think they want an attempted revolution so they’ll have the excuse to crack down. That is why DEI is so blatent, they’re bullies trying to create a reaction.
Ben the Layabout #418931 August 14, 2024 12:11 pm 3
What’s transpired in the UK in just the past month would tend to lend support to your hypothesis.
Hemid #418930 August 14, 2024 12:10 pm 3
We don’t remember what Occupy was like.The Great Awokening (or whatever) immediately followed OWS becauseOWSmodeled a society explicitly premised on anti-whiteness. It was a “teach-in”—a demonstration of how to proceed, a corporate seminar. Go back and watch the videos. It wasn’tanykind of protest, let alone a last stand of Real Leftism that worried the “They.”What we call leftism is a social, non-ideological phenomenon. It’s local and mimetic, people who know each other copying each other. Word goes out, but not through ideas and arguments (hence their powerlessness in defense).Our Democracy is elite hysteria desperately mimicked by a status-insecure mass. The everyday analogies are fashion, high school, “mean girls,” etc. It’s not about the money—because your parents’ class has decided yours already. The daughter isworriedthat her prom date is too white. Dad and third wife are on a borrowed yacht, grotesque in their swimwear, throwing water at each other.
Alzaebo #419027 August 14, 2024 8:07 pm 1
wow, tremendous, Hemid
Mr. House #418824 August 14, 2024 9:43 am 11
“it’s wrecking their businesses….” I think you have this backwards. They already wrecked their business when they took on unsupportable amounts of debt to consolidate the market into corporate hands. I think they don’t give a shit about DEI stuff, the only thing they care about is bailout money when the time comes. If they have to say men can give birth to obtain that money they will.
Mr. House #418876 August 14, 2024 10:47 am 4
For example, we learned in 2008 that To Big Too Fail is bad, so why do we keep encouraging To big to fail?https://www.zerohedge.com/markets/mars-candy-bars-buy-cheez-it-maker-kellanova-36-billion-largest-package-food-deal-decadeDoes Mars have 36 billion on hand for this purchase? Of course not, they’ll take shares, bonds and other BS (Debt) to continue to consolidate the market. Kraft Heinz anyone? And when the cash flow breaks at some point because they’ve got too much debt to survive in the natural world, why .gov will bail them out. So who do you think is really calling the DEI tune? Who is the pied piper? Both really, Big government can’t survive without big business.
Ben the Layabout #418934 August 14, 2024 12:16 pm 3
It’s like the old joke about did capital take over government or vice versa. Closer to reality would seem to be they largely bought each other ought, or are basically the same people/entities. In the not-so-long ago times, this was called a government-business partnership, corporatism, and fascism. The present lumpenproletariat of Western nations is so dim they would never believe anyone could be a “fascist” if he’s not goose-stepping and cranking out lampshades and bars of soap made from certain minority groups.
Ostei Kozelskii #418861 August 14, 2024 10:30 am 11
The ideological reasons are also concrete. And it’s DIE, y’all, not DEI. **smh**
TempoNick #418879 August 14, 2024 10:49 am 3
Homogenization meant you could have such things as TV networks, hit music, hit TV shows, blockbuster movies, fashion. With an atomized population, it’s harder to have breakthroughs that resonate with the masses. It is absolutely hurting them in the pocketbook.
Evil Sandmich #418823 August 14, 2024 9:43 am 8
“They aren’t our guys, exactly” They rarely are, which is why I wish people wouldn’t get so hung up on purity tests. Yes, there is an “ideal”, but, that’s not happening.
Mycale #418830 August 14, 2024 9:53 am 5
It’s not so much that they hate the DEI/woke stuff, it’s that they see the revolution coming for them. The Brandon regime is just blatantly anti-White, anti-work, pro-spiteful mutant and even a White-adjacent person can see what’s on the horizon if these people stay in charge. Zuckerberg gave hundreds of millions of dollars to “fortify” the 2020 election and is now sitting this one out for exactly this reason. It’s totally in self-interest, which, of course, is how it always goes.
Jack Dobson #418886 August 14, 2024 10:58 am 3
Right. It has dawned on a few of the financial elite that Woke cannot be confined to culture and will bleed into economics. Duh.
Ben the Layabout #418935 August 14, 2024 12:23 pm 5
Well, yes and no. For the sake of my argument, let us say that Woke = Early 20th century Marxism/Socialism/Communism. It’s been said by someone, and I think it a valid claim, that early Soviet Communism hoped to export the revolution internationally. By the traditional canon, the workers were supposed to rise up and overthrow the owners of capital. For whatever reasons, that plan largely failed. Whatdidsucceed and spectacularly, over long periods of time, was the cultural Marxism largely spread by the Diaspora from Eastern Europe and Russia who brought many skills to the West, but on the whole they also brought Marxism in its various disguises. And now, four or five generations later, we are bearing much of its bitter fruit.
Jack Dobson #419000 August 14, 2024 5:20 pm 2
Ostei here set me straight long ago on the difference between PoMo and Gramscian cultural Marxism, so, yeah. But wealth seizure and asset forfeiture isn’t limited to Marxism of any stripe, and there does seem to be quite a bit of concern over an economic deconstruction on the heels of the cultural counterpart. That seems to be a valid concern, too. The replacement population won’t pay for itself and isn’t expected to do so.
Pozymandias #418955 August 14, 2024 1:11 pm 0
The ones who know a bit of 20th century history may also be aware that Leftist revolutions (and that is essentially what’s been going on) have a nasty habit of devouring their own most aggressive supporters. There’s the old joke about Stalin being the best anti-Communist ever because he killed so many of them.
Montefrío #418969 August 14, 2024 2:04 pm 2
“In time?” Kind of seems like that time came a while back.
Bilejones #419036 August 15, 2024 4:08 am 3
In all the talk about the need to destroy Iran, I’ve seen no discussion about what happens when Iran close the Straits of Hormuz and 25$ of World oil production stops flowing.A perfect example of the utter fecklessness of the fuckers.
Jeffrey Zoar #419210 August 15, 2024 6:04 pm 0
China, which receives more total barrels through Hormuz than anyone else, probably wouldn’t let them do it, is my guess
Whiskey #418942 August 14, 2024 12:34 pm 1
I have read that the Kursk salient was the work of the UK, which largely planned it and carried it out with sheep-dipped UK military. If so, that would explain a lot of things.Moreover, Western policy makers believe the media, instead of reality. So the Kursk salient is already a great success, and the media is trumpeting that Ukraine will soon be marching on Moscow. This means that the US and UK and EU will be re-inforcing Ukraine with the belief that victory over the Russians and Regime Change in Moscow is a certainty.Which means the draft boys, its coming. A massive one, with straight White men only of course, sent to the Russian Front. If Biden wants his revenge (and if Hunter wants his, more stuff leaking out as he realizes he will be the fall guy and not Ryan Gosling or Lee Majors) — he could even have that running out in September. Just as a F- you very much gift to Nancy.
The Wild Geese Howard #419010 August 14, 2024 6:29 pm 3
Whiskey- Based on the radio traffic reported by Russia I’d bet a lot of sheep-dipped Frenchies and Polacks are also in Kursk.
Hokkoda #419030 August 14, 2024 9:40 pm 4
I had an employee today tell me she got ordered to report for an Individual Ready Reserve (IRR) muster next month. I found that really odd. The IRR is just former military who didn’t retire and didn’t join the Guard/Reserves. The IRR is the reserves to the reserves. As a Reserve Officer, I was on IRR status for 10 years (throughout the GWOT), and not once was I or anyone else on IRR called to “muster”. something is coming.
Alzaebo #418809 August 14, 2024 9:18 am 1
Is that how first-order thinking works, then? You make up something, and then you have to make up something else in order to along with it, and then you have to make up something else to go along withthat,and then you…
Mr. House #418826 August 14, 2024 9:46 am 7
reminds me more of myself as a five year old, trying to not get in trouble.
Ben the Layabout #418952 August 14, 2024 1:07 pm 4
Sounds remarkably like a certain demographic here that is well known for not being able to grasp the likely consequences of actions. Perhaps the technical term is first-order thinking, but I would term it “out of order thinking.”
Zaphod #419019 August 14, 2024 6:57 pm 1
I believe the term of art is Moronic Markov Process. The softer formulation grokkable by Regime acolyte striver readers of the Economist/FT would be something like Stochastic Solipsism.
Quartermaster #419797 August 20, 2024 8:56 am 0
“For a little over a year, it has been clear to people who have followed the war in Ukraine that there is no winning scenario for Ukraine.”I’ve watched the war since the beginning in 2014. I’ve watched Putin since he took power in 1999. You are wrong. At this point, Russia wins only if they use nukes, and by doing so they still lose. They are already a pariah state again, and even those closest to Russia, China and India, have strongly warned Putin off nukes.Russia has had over 600K casualties, and is rounding up immigrants to send to the font for lack of warm bodies. The war is not going well for Russia. Even maintaining their rail rolling stock has become questionable because of the lack of parts that have historically ben imported. Sanctions have also been biting deeply.Your article is not connected to reality.
Jannie #419035 August 15, 2024 1:57 am -1
One thing to bear in mind if Ukraine collapses is all the Azoz & Ukrainian SS/Bandera types fleeing west to escape Russian prosecution. They will spread throughout Europe with their ideology…and weapons, and experience…and lead and organize the European “far right”. Much like Al-Qaeda moving into Syria after leaving Afghanistan.


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