America First

Most of the people who use the phrase “America First” do so emotively, as a way to indicate that they like or dislike something. They will use this phrase, for example, when dismissing something or someone from the left. Alternatively, they will use it as a way to restate allegiance to their cause. “I’m America First” reduces to “I’m on the side of the good guys and those people are the bad guys.” Beyond this basic political signaling the phrase has little meaning for the users.

This is not true of everyone. Trump and his more reliable supporters use the phrase to mean a radical reorientation of the political class. What Trump means when he says he wants an “American First” foreign policy, for example, is that he looks at foreign policy in service to his domestic policy. The same is true with trade. He promotes the use of tariffs, for example, because he thinks about trade as a means to an end and that end is the promotion of the American domestic economy.

The radicalism of this gets lost because both sides of the political class have mischaracterized these positions for half a century. So-called conservatives talk about “free trade”, a thing that does not exist, as enlightened policy, while tariffs are slandered as isolationism and central planning. The left now promotes endless wars around the globe as a necessary duty of the American government, even if it comes with a heavy cost to the American people.

One reason that government policy now feels anti-white is because it generally feels anti-American, but in reality, it is simply indifferent to white Americans. The thing that has consumed the Biden presidency has been Ukraine, followed by the endless wars in the Levant, and then their escalations with China. Whenever the concerns of white people come up, they are blasted with the tired old slogans that are simply meant to dismiss the concerns of the majority population.

Immigration is another example. The logic behind open borders is not that it is good for the native population, but that the people enabling it are doing a good deed for these foreigners and humanity in general. While much of it is driven by spite and ingratitude, the underlying cause is indifference to domestic concerns. For the typical person in the political system, the concerns of average Americans matter only in so far that they have an impact on these cosmopolitan projects.

This is why the usual suspects screech in horror at Trump. He is a threat not just to their specific schemes but to the framework in which they operate. For example, he looks at Ukraine and asks why Americans are paying for it. If the Europeans want to make war with each other, according to Trump, they should pay for it. In other words, he looks at the Ukraine situation purely in terms of domestic economics. The starting question for Trump is “how is this good for Americans?”

This is most obvious in his statements regarding Taiwan. In a recent interview Trump pointed out that Taiwan is rich mostly because of America, so they should pay for their own defense against China. He also criticized prior administrations for allowing Taiwan to corner the market on high end computer chips. Trump feels no moral or emotional commitment to Taiwan. For him, it is just another transactional relationship that is either good or bad for Americans.

Even with regards to Israel, the area where Trump gets most criticized by dissidents, his view is purely transactional. He looks at Israel as part of the greater Jewish lobby in America, so he treats it as such. The Jews have a lot of money and power, so Trump caters to them in the same way he caters to other powerful interests. If Evangelicals stop worshipping Jewish people, Trump will be less enthusiastic for Israel, because Israel stops being important domestically.

J.D. Vance also takes this transactional view of trade and foreign policy, which is why the usual suspects detest him. When asked about Ukraine during his senate run, he shrugged and asked why anyone cares about Ukraine. Vance has also talked about using tariffs as a way to bring manufacturing back, as well as a way to boost the American economy in general. This kind of talk around the usual suspects is like wearing garlic around a vampire.

The reason this terrifies official Washington is that all of their projects and therebefore their reason to exist rest on the assertion that overseas concerns are paramount because they serve the interest of the empire. If politics moves to a debate about what is and what is not good for the American people, suddenly these schemes not only stop making sense, but they also sound un-American. Project Ukraine, for example, is exactly what Washington warned about in his farewell address.

That is the root of the rage we see in the political class. Trump and now Vance signal a shift back to an older form of politics where candidates promised a chicken in every pot and two cars in every garage. This is antithetical to the cosmopolitical politics that have dominated for at least the last thirty years. A successful politician of old actually had to know something about chickens, pots and cars. Contrast that to now when politicians take pride in having no practical knowledge.

None of this should lead to a celebration. The odds of Trump winning are not good, despite all of the good things breaking his way. The mere fact that he is in a close race with a nursing home patient shows how much damage has been done to the self-respect and intelligence of the voting public. Even if Trump wins, the political machine will simply work harder to undermine his efforts. The usual suspects are terribly smart but hey never take no for an answer.

Even so, this all points to the problem with empire. All empires are eventually controlled by an alien elite that parasites off the people who made the empire. As the cost of empire exceeds the benefit of the empire, the people at the top begin to hollow out that which makes them possible. In this regard, the Trump – Vance ticket is a symptom and a warning of what lies ahead. Either the reformist elements of the oligarchy embrace America First, or something much worse than Trump comes next.


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Pickle Rick #414058 July 18, 2024 8:32 am 70
“America First” as a phrase is of course inevitably associated with, as usual, the ghosts of the 1940s and the ongoing obsession with Mustache Guy and used as a club to beat the political right into submission with that used to be much more effective.To the Bagels, America First is antisemitic, because the moral duty of America is to sacrifice everything for Bagels, because America didn’t want to in 1933 all the way to 1941.To the foreigners, America First is racist.To the Spiteful Mutants, America First is Christian.To the Fistagon and the MIC,America First is their doom.However, as we have seen happening more rapidly as of late, flogging the dead horses of the mid 20th century does have an expiry date.
Diversity Heretic #414067 July 18, 2024 8:45 am 45
The ghosts of the 1940s included Charles Lindburgh, Robert Taft, and John F. Kennedy. From the perspective of 2024, the concerns of the America First movement appear remarkably prescient. FDR repeatedly violated the Neutrality Act by shipping arms to belligerant powers and provoked the Japanese government with a series of economic and financial sanctions (sound famiiar?). Although Charles Lindburgh was denounced for noticing how Jews sought to involve the US in the war, during the war the fate of Jews was hardly an issue of concern–Dwight Eisenhower, Winston Churchill and Charles de Gaulle never mentioned it during the war, nor did they discuss it in their memoirs. And, as Ron Unz has noticed, any journalist or commentator who had been critical of the Roosevelt Administration’s foreign policies between 1939 and 1942 was ruthlessly deplatformed. America had probably become an empire before the intervention into World War II, but that intervention definitely settled the question of republic versus empire in favor of the latter. Anyone claiming the title of America First in 2024 is heir to a good tradition, “Mustache Man” to the contrary norwithstanding.
The Wild Geese Howard #414083 July 18, 2024 9:02 am 27
I think there’s an argument to be made that the outcome of WW2 could be thought of as America’s Third Founding.
Blasphemous #414115 July 18, 2024 9:32 am 23
The first three “foundings” came at roughly 80 year intervals. it’s been 80 years since the 3rd “founding”
Hun #414140 July 18, 2024 9:50 am 16
One full cycle according to Strauss and Howe is 84 years. These theories have their limitations, but there are legit reasons why they exist.
The Wild Geese Howard #414169 July 18, 2024 10:29 am 8
I think Strauss and Howe are pretty spot on with the length of the cycle. My issue with them is that they really seem to process the facts through their own peculiar worldview to arrive at their detailed conclusions.
Alzaebo #414288 July 18, 2024 2:45 pm 2
I don’t see a predictive framework as an issue, but as useful and succinct. (Nice catch, Blasphemous.) Gotta keep it simple, man, that’s why a Biblical God as an overall concept can be an extremely ‘useful’ shorthand.
Ben the Layabout #414333 July 18, 2024 4:47 pm 3
…which is precisely what Nietzsche called “the prejudices of philosophers” (first section ofBeyond Good and Evil.). A philosopher’s inner beliefs, perhaps even subconscious, influence his theories or other “truths” he may claim to have found. I see no reason why this tendency would not extend to all fields of human intellectual activity. One easy example of that is cherry picking; we’re prone to choose evidence that supports our argument and ignore what doesn’t. The scientific method and other tools can defend against these defects but they aren’t always used, including by professionals who should know better but it turns out they have the same human frailties as we lowly mortals.
Dutchboy #414273 July 18, 2024 2:12 pm 10
Sam Francis termed it the end of the Second American Republic and the beginning of the American Empire.
Vinnyvette #414086 July 18, 2024 9:03 am 37
You can also throw Henry Ford into the mix, staunchly pro America, however rabidly anti Jew. My kinda guy!
Owlman #414094 July 18, 2024 9:12 am 5
Go further back,Wilson’s campaign slogan in 1916 was, “He Kept Us Out of War.” The first America Firster?
Vinnyvette #414133 July 18, 2024 9:42 am 17
How could Wilson keep us out of WWI When he schemed to get us in it?Wilson is the original U.S. globalist. Look up “League of Nation’s.”
Owlman #414189 July 18, 2024 10:58 am 4
I assume you respond to my post rhetorically – as I simply posted what HIS platform was in 1916. There is also a subtext, perhaps too subtle — that those claiming to be ‘American First’, say in the case of Wilson, FDR, in terms of keeping us out of foreign wars, were not what they said they were. In any case, ‘how could’ is not for me to answer as it is a non sequitur response to my point or simply droll.
Spingerah #414226 July 18, 2024 12:04 pm -2
You talk like a fag and your shits all retarded.
Mike #414245 July 18, 2024 12:55 pm 11
Lincoln, Wilson, FDR and TR are the worst Presidents we’ve had. They all started the ball rolling downhill that led to where we are today. Without them we would have never had the crooks, idiots and tards we’ve been stuck with over the last 40-50 years. Bide, Obama and both Bushes are the fake and gay successors to them.
Alzaebo #414289 July 18, 2024 2:52 pm 1
Let’s just hope Trump isn’t the same kind of America Firster as Wilson. He wasn’t last time, so crossing muh fingers.
Ben the Layabout #414334 July 18, 2024 4:48 pm 2
You can have a Hasid wearing any color you like, as long as it’s black. 😏
Vinnyvette #414354 July 18, 2024 7:30 pm 0
🤣🤣🤣
Vinnyvette #414368 July 18, 2024 9:03 pm 3
What is it after seeing Trump as president for four years and this “will the real Donald J. Trump please stand up” all over this board. Just waiting for him to morph into chairman Mao or LBJ. What you see is what you get from Trump. He may not have delivered the goods as promised his first term. It was not for lack of effort. When has Trump pulled a policy bait and switch?
Outdoorspro #414108 July 18, 2024 9:28 am 28
I have been finding it very interesting that with the new AI “interpretations” of mustache man have been reforming his image quite a bit. It’s easy to say he was crazy when you don’t understand the words and all you can see is a raving lunatic onstage. Now that we can hear his speeches like the audience would have heard them, and also see how the audience responds to his arguments, they don’t seem so crazy. Instead, they seem prophetic.
Hun #414121 July 18, 2024 9:35 am 22
during the war the fate of Jews was hardly an issue of concern–Dwight Eisenhower, Winston Churchill and Charles de Gaulle never mentioned it during the war, nor did they discuss it in their memoirs. There is a reason why they were not concerned with their fate, but it’s illegal to say in my local jurisdiction.
Wiffle #414303 July 18, 2024 3:23 pm 3
Only John F Kennedy matters in terms of ghosts. Society works within living memory. Charles Lindburgh was the guy who piloted a plane to Paris without first class and seatbelt. What he was known for during the 1920’s-1950’s otherwise is lost to our Boomerriffic society.Because we living in a Boomerific society Mustache Man is the founding of the modern world, and history goes no farther.
Gespenst #414314 July 18, 2024 3:49 pm 0
Did you mean Joseph Kennedy instead of John?
Diversity Heretic #414338 July 18, 2024 4:55 pm 0
No, John F. Kennedy contributed $100 to the organization with a note that what it was doing was vital.
Gespenst #414371 July 18, 2024 10:52 pm 2
Well, Old Joe Kennedy was a non-interventionist to the point of being called an appeaser. He might deserve a mention with the America Firsters, although he was a nasty man compared to Lindbergh and the others.
Chet Rollins #414079 July 18, 2024 9:00 am 29
The best part of this slogan is dusting off the slogan of an old boogeyman (the WWII isolationists) and making it your own. The old mythologies are losing steam and the elite class is desperately trying, and failing, to create new, grand myths. That was the entire point of the Floyd nonsense, the gay marriage push, etc.The problem is their leaders are becoming more decrepit, their folk heroes are outright criminals, and social media is making it impossible to sweep their more unsavory elements under the rug. If the 1960’s revolutions were today, every normal person would see the bombings, the murders, and the riots. Instead of seeing dumb hippies putting flowers in a soldier’s muzzle or MLK giving a speech, they would see the Blackstone Rangers terrorizing ethnic neighborhoods and looting riots that would look suspiciously similar to the Summer of Floyd.
Ostei Kozelskii #414188 July 18, 2024 10:56 am 17
Exactly. The Summer of Floyd was simply a recurrence of the Long Hot Summers of 1965, 1966 and 1967. And so long as we keep playing paddy-cake with the nuggras, we’ll get plenty more of that kind of action.
Jack Dobson #414090 July 18, 2024 9:08 am 17
The great thing about the phrase “America First” is that it has the same quality that “Black Lives Matter” unfortunately shares: to push back against it makes someone look really, really bad. “You aren’t for America first?” “You mean black lives do not matter?” The rhetoric survived the Nazi fearmongering for a reason–to be offended by it is to lose.
TempoNick #414132 July 18, 2024 9:42 am 13
The Finkels neutralized themselves by importing their new overlords, the Pajheets. Let’s see how they like being ruled by an alien people with alien attitudes.
Wiffle #414304 July 18, 2024 3:27 pm 0
The Pajheets are perfectly comfortable working with the Finkels. That said, the first have a better sense of tribe and physically look different than Europeans. The Finkels can only co-opt the civilization of Christianity, being familiar with it in rejection of it. The Pajheets come from a pagan society unfamiliar with it other than in the form of British colonization. India is a basket case. It’s not going to take long for Pajheet to be an obvious bad idea where the Finkels can blend in indefinitely.
Dutchboy #414134 July 18, 2024 9:45 am 26
One should not underestimate the amount of pure hatred that motivates the anti-America First bunch.
Tired Citizen #414244 July 18, 2024 12:52 pm 5
I can’t speak for all, but there is no level of hatred that could possible come close to matching what I have for the anti-America First bunch…
Auntie Analogue #414160 July 18, 2024 10:18 am 39
All the arguments over “America First!” would evaporate if the slogan were to be replaced by “AMERICANS First!” “America First!” embraces empire, while “AMERICANS First!” puts the emphasis smack dab where it belongs, on us, “the people.” “AMERICANS First!” embodies the principle of government serving the people, while “America First!” embodies an imperial imperative. “AMERICANS First!” demolishes missionary wars, imperial sanctions on foreign powers, “free trade,” “refugee” resettlement, legal and illegal imminvasion, and all the other ills that the Imperial Ruling Elite have imposed upon us, the people.
Montefrío #414195 July 18, 2024 11:14 am 10
Very well thought out and said! Indeed, it isAmericanswhose interests should be uppermost in the mind of anyone who aspires to office as well as in the minds and actions of all those who occupy its soil, particularly those who have no legal or moral right to be in the country and those who are public employees, all those whose incomes depend on taxpayer largesse.Americans First! The collective abstraction “America” is ever-more abstract as the nation fragments into identity politics, regional differences more pronounced than at any time since the mid-nineteenth century, plus a financial system directed by a cabal that is anti-American by its very existence. Want to put Americans first? Begin by making sweeping political changes and dismantling the anti-Constitutional financial system imposed in 1913, the former required by the latter if serious civil disturbance can still be avoided, far from certain given the government and its adjuncts now imposed upon a long-suffering citizenry. .
Zulu Juliet #414197 July 18, 2024 11:23 am 6
Immigration boosters have taken to referring to asylum scammers and the rest of the immigrant horde as “New Americans”.
Jeffrey Zoar #414263 July 18, 2024 1:47 pm 7
illegal aliens —> illegal immigrants —-> undocumented immigrants —-> undocumented workers —-> Dreamers —–> New Americans
Alzaebo #414295 July 18, 2024 3:00 pm 3
RETVRN to Roman tradition Crucifixes lining the seven roads to DC
Spingerah #414227 July 18, 2024 12:09 pm 1
Well & clearly said both of you.Thank you
Alzaebo #414293 July 18, 2024 2:55 pm 3
Oh damn, Auntie. That says it ALL.It’s not retribution, it’s reparations. Make Helicopter Rides Great Again!
Dad Bones #414332 July 18, 2024 4:46 pm 0
Good point. If “Black Lives Matter” had been something like “Black Nation Matters” they would have gotten a lot of pushback.
pyrrhus #414201 July 18, 2024 11:29 am 36
One area where I strongly disagree with Z-man is his theory that the Regime is indifferent to Whites…Not at all true..DEI is explicitly anti-white, and many of their supporters (mostly deranged females) absolutely hate whites..They have been destroying white jobs and opportunities for decades, at least 50 years, and promoting every 80+ IQ foreigner or mutant into their jobs…This has been quite visible to some of us since the early 1970s….
The Right Doctor #414208 July 18, 2024 11:42 am 30
Just out of high school I applied for a job with a government agency. It was part time and involved collecting data from remote seismic recording stations that did not have telemetry. They were serviced every two weeks, needing batteries, a change of the paper on the data-recording cylinders, etc. The candidate needed some understanding of various technologies.Two white guys interviewed me. My answers had them looking at each other in consternation. I thought what in the world – these are easy questions.Then one of them said “I’m really sorry, we’ve been told we have to hire a minority.”This was June 1972.
Ostei Kozelskii #414210 July 18, 2024 11:47 am 16
Yet another example of nothing new under the sun. The anti-white crusade has been with us for over half a century. Quite sad that many whites are only how hoisting in the unsettling truth while others continue to resist it.
Jeffrey Zoar #414235 July 18, 2024 12:24 pm 11
I don’t think people were in denial that it was happening; the term Affirmative Action has been with us for a long time. While AINO was 90% white they felt there was an upper limit to how much AA could be done so they were more willing to tolerate it. Now that the percentage of whites is dropping toward 50 they realize there is no limit.
Ostei Kozelskii #414253 July 18, 2024 1:20 pm 10
But AA is more than a horrendously misbegotten government initiative; it is an entire culture. Hence, mere scrutiny, let along criticism of negroes is forbidden on pain of personal bankruptcy, while the most nugatory of negro “achievements” are vaunted as if they landed on the moon, composed the fifth symphony, or built Durham Cathedral. In any sane nation, i.e. one bereft of AA, nobody outside of Bed-Stuy or Compton would have even heard of rap, yet it’s AINO’s national soundtrack.The flipside of this moronic negrolotry is an uncategorical condemnation of the Blue-Eyed Ice Devil as the source of all the world’s problems and the creator of none of its solutions.Whites should have glommed onto the malicious intellectual and psychic underpinnings of AA long, long ago, yet they did not, and fearful, perhaps irreversible damage has been done as a result.
Pozymandias #414285 July 18, 2024 2:43 pm 7
There’s also the way the remaining Whites are encouraged to adopt perversions and affectations as a backdoor into the AA/DIE benefits. White women, in particular, are encouraged to adopt a trashy, slutty image and denounce men. The overall rule is that if a White person, male or female, wants to get a slice of the AA pie, he must debase himself, adopt an offensive and ugly personal style, and generally act like a fool or an uncouth savage. This is how you become an “honorary negro” and become acceptable to the corporate culture.
Tars Tarkas #414269 July 18, 2024 2:00 pm 5
“However, as we have seen happening more rapidly as of late, flogging the dead horses of the mid 20th century does have an expiry date.”In reality, it should no longer have any effect whatsoever. But it still does. We’ve been brainwashed. I was born 25 years after ww2 ended and I still have all this programming. We all had this programming. It came from everywhere. From the TV, from the schools, from the press and radio along with books and magazines and from the culture. “Racism” being defined as the worst evil imaginable. After all, went our programming, it was extremely “unfair” to treat the outsider or “other” any different than we would treat our own brothers. This, of course, is evil. But evil was taught as good. It still is.I don’t believe the youth are on our side in large numbers. To begin with, the White youth are a minority. White kids are less than 50%. How many think they are trannies now? Or homos? How many are already on Ritalin, particularly our young boys? How many will be lost to either drugs or drug crime? How many of those not left wing, who largely agree with us will get into elite universities and graduate without being absorbed by the borg and eventually enter the elite where they can actually make changes?
Wiffle #414306 July 18, 2024 3:31 pm 3
We are in cultural collapse. The Finkels and what’s left of European elites in government will realize the problems way too late.Whether or not we survive our luxury junket with “tolerance” is up to God.
joey jünger #414057 July 18, 2024 8:29 am 60
I think you’re right that the system dodged a figurative bullet when that literal one merely grazed Trump. Another few centimeters the other way and they would have gotten what they wished for, only with terribly ironic consequences, like something from “The Monkey’s Paw.”Walter Kirn—an old-style democrat from Montana and not given to hyperbole or conspiracy—says an old regime friend told him the plan was probably for Trump to be dead before the RNC. The seeding of the media with stories about an Iranian hand in assassination attempts would have helped Haley astroglide her way into the nomination, the way the more cynical among us predicted happening anyway. It could have very well been a neocon scheme.There’s an old saying: if you try to kill the king, you’d better kill the king. They can always try to get Trump again, but the images start to take on a life of their own after a while. Even people who aren’t superstitious will start to look at a man differently if he keeps “getting lucky” like that. Literal religious movements are born out of that kind of ferment. Little kids in realms as far-flung as Africa and China are reenacting Trump’s “Fight” chant after he got hit with the bullet.The craziest part of it all was that if the regime just made a deal with Trump—as you suggested—right now he’d be leaving office, sated, if not outright exhausted with his two terms. But by trying to keep the lid on nonelite frustration rather than doing a bit of outgassing, they’re turning a teakettle into a volcano. It makes me wonder if they don’t subconsciously want to bring about their own destruction through the fascist revolution they’ve heretofore-merely hallucinated.More likely things will just keep getting slightly worse and worse, especially with the Border, while the MIC and Israel continue to do what they want. I will say that Trump is the first person I ever saw say something like “No” to Bibi’s face in a press conference. All he said was “I’d like to see you slow down on the settlements,” but he said it in public. Netanyahu of course looked at him like he was Oliver Twist asking for more gruel. I haven’t seen Ivanka’s sewer-dwelling prince consort from the Chabad cult lately, so maybe people are right, and Trump has learned. Then again, maybe Jared is busy building condos on the corpses over there right now.
Jack Dobson #414068 July 18, 2024 8:51 am 45
The prosecutions have merged in the public mind with the State-sponsored assassination attempt. That’s not a good long-term prospect for the Regime. Stalin learned this the hard way but he was crazier than he was stupid. Our versions have that in reverse order. But, yes, slow, steady decline is possible. Don’t discount a sudden collapse, either, if the lunatics decide the window is closing to conduct another world war. It is a miracle we have avoided a nuclear war so far, and that is only due to the Russians being less emotionally incontinent than the domestic psychopaths.
Ostei Kozelskii #414181 July 18, 2024 10:45 am 11
The “islands” of the Russian Collusion Hoax and the theft of the 2020 election need to merge with the sham prosecutions and assassination attempt to form the Peninsula of Perpetual Peril for the Power Structure.
Krustykurmudgeon #414202 July 18, 2024 11:30 am 8
What about covid? I’ll never be convinced that it wasn’t part of coordinated psyop
Spingerah #414234 July 18, 2024 12:22 pm 7
Of course it was. Mail.in only.the entire scam preplanned.It was ready to go & did what was intended.The attempted assassination dosen’t pass a smell test either.
TempoNick #414088 July 18, 2024 9:06 am -22
I’m the only one who seems to interpret this to mean that the Biden presidency and the stolen election was engineered by people FRIENDLY to Trump. “…How do you attempt to ‘sneak one in’?How do you attempt to ensure victory? …” https://qalerts.app/?n=4014 —– “Sometimes you can’t TELL the public the truth.YOU MUSTSHOWTHEM.ONLY THEN WILL PEOPLE FIND THE WILL TO CHANGE.…” https://qalerts.app/?n=4908 Knock yourself out with the downvotes.
Vinnyvette #414110 July 18, 2024 9:29 am 3
How did you draw this conclusion that people friendly to Trump undermined him in 2020 by design?
TempoNick #414130 July 18, 2024 9:40 am -13
To me it’s pretty obvious. As bad as our system May be, it isn’t this bad. As Sundance has said, it appears to me that they’ve got Judas a goats throughout the system pushing the right buttons, exaggerating what has gone on in the past so that it hits us upside the head, so we see it, so we get to a slow boil so that Trump can do something about it.Election night was a great example. That just doesn’t happen in real life. Likewise with the 59 times the courts told people to pound sand after they complained.In what reality do we elect a drooling nursing home patient got elected to be president for two terms?This is like a Seinfeld bizarro episode penned by the twisted mind of Larry David. I’m surprised more people don’t see it.
Vinnyvette #414141 July 18, 2024 9:52 am 12
None of your word salad explains people friendly to Trump tanking the 2020 election as some form of 3D chess.
TempoNick #414176 July 18, 2024 10:40 am -1
I never said this is 3D chess. It’s just a movie. It’s just a scripted way of disclosing what goes on and telling a story in a dramatic way.
Robbo #414383 July 19, 2024 6:32 am 1
I want to be there when you and the other Q tards tell that firefighter’s widow and the guys in prison for J6 that this is just a movie.
Alzaebo #414298 July 18, 2024 3:13 pm 2
In my dreams at night, I’m playing strip 4D chess with the incomparable Princess Irulan too
Vinnyvette #414355 July 18, 2024 7:37 pm 0
🤣🤣🤣
DLS #414147 July 18, 2024 9:58 am 28
Dr. Jill, please take the keyboard away from your husband.
Jack Dobson #414175 July 18, 2024 10:39 am 6
I read that lunacy several times and still don’t see how it supports a contention the system isn’t as bad as it seems.
Ostei Kozelskii #414212 July 18, 2024 11:49 am 4
Talk about taking one for the team!
Jack Dobson #414233 July 18, 2024 12:21 pm 2
Cold sober, too.
Ostei Kozelskii #414254 July 18, 2024 1:22 pm 2
Mercy, mercy me…
Salmon #414276 July 18, 2024 2:17 pm 0
You’re a regular Zman reader and you don’t get that the system is, in fact, far worse than bad? Again, how do you even find places like this? I always assumed Qboomers’ heads would explode if exposed to a lot of the information people talk about on here.
Carrie #414377 July 19, 2024 1:05 am 1
Your attempt at logic is understandable.But, uh, we had a coup. America had a coup in 2020 that was engineered by the Kuh-bal and its useful idiots.
Hun #414111 July 18, 2024 9:29 am 23
Please stop with the Q spam. We have standards here.
TempoNick #414122 July 18, 2024 9:36 am -19
I will be proven right in the end. There is no such thing as coincidence. Feel free to downvote. I get a kick out of it.
Vinnyvette #414129 July 18, 2024 9:39 am 4
You’ve gone off the rails a bit lately Nick, you used to be solid.
TempoNick #414177 July 18, 2024 10:41 am -6
Nancy Pelosi, Chuck Schumer, and Mitch McConnell and various other cucks were telling you that Q was fake. That should be a red flag right there
Ostei Kozelskii #414213 July 18, 2024 11:50 am 12
Pelosi and Schumer aren’t cucks; they’re unabashed, baldfaced, white-hating Leftists.
Stephanie #414473 July 19, 2024 11:40 am 0
The most hilarious thing was when Trump was asked by some MSM talking head about it and she was saying these people think that these high profile people were abusing children/’adrenochrome’ etc., (note that this was during the height of Epstein exposure), and Trump was like yeah, well, what would be so bad about people that would want to stop that type of abuse? Whoops. lol
Tom K #414146 July 18, 2024 9:58 am 7
“There is no such thing as coincidence.” But God does have a sense of humor wouldn’t you say?
TempoNick #414185 July 18, 2024 10:49 am -4
You know, in 2016, I thought God was pushing it along. I thought there were so many obstacles put in Trump’s way that no mere mortal could surmount all of those challenges unless God was helping out.But I scratched my head as to why. Why would God care what happens in a single election when he’s got a billion planets to tend to? I thought it might be the abuse of children that got him involved for a while.But, nah. Everything is too scripted. It’s all part of the same psyop. It’s a psyop from the good guys, but it’s still a psyop.
Stephanie #414479 July 19, 2024 11:49 am 0
Well, there’s the scripture about when abuses are so bad they reach to heaven. That covers that. It’s probably hard for Americans to really understand how bad things may be around the world especially for innocents. We’re slowly finding out though.
Wolf Barney #414164 July 18, 2024 10:22 am 15
TempoNick, looks like you’re a fan of X22 Report featuring “Dave.” Dave’s been pitching the same message for a long time, which is essentially the Qanon “trust the plan,” which includes the regime being arrested any time now.When nothing happens, Dave kicks the can down the road a bit more, with his declarations that “the people have to see it.” It’s a lot of hopium and copium, and he says absolutely nothing about the war on White people or the tribe holding vast disproportionate power, which speaks volumes about Dave’s credibility.Dave’s a true gatekeeper with thousands of patriotic believers.
TempoNick #414178 July 18, 2024 10:42 am -7
Yes, but why would Eric Trump appear on that show twice? If there was nothing to queue, it would be toxic to Eric Trump. He wouldn’t get within a thousand miles of that show. Dave also has a lot of gaps in his knowledge and his pronunciations of things, but that’s okay. The podcast is entertaining enough.
Salmon #414277 July 18, 2024 2:18 pm 5
Because he was paid to and it’s campaign season for his dad. The only person mystified by his appearance on some random Qboomer podcast is you.
Robbo #414384 July 19, 2024 6:33 am 0
Trump blinked 17 times during his RNC speech. Q-proof! Q was either a major NSA psyops or a couple of geeks having a laugh in their mom’s basement.
TempoNick #414187 July 18, 2024 10:55 am -6
The two questions I ask myself is, first, who made Google change their name to Alphabet, as in “alphabet agencies?” (Seed money for Google was provided by DARPA or so they say, and we all know intel uses them to spy on us.) Big corporations have no sense of humor. They wouldn’t poke fun at themselves like that. It was 2015 so it was pre-Trump.Second, who made Zero exit out from the back of the plane in China? Foreign countries don’t do that to foreign leaders. Unless of course, the people who are really in charge were trying to send us a message that he wasn’t foreign leader anymore. He had been removed.You have to go back to 2015 and start with reading the posts from FBI Anon, Mega Anon and all the other sock puppets they were using to get out the word. If you immersed yourself in their posts, you realize Q is just a continuation of the same communications strategy.Maybe this all sounds crazy to you guys, but no crazier than the stuff we read on these alternative boards. Crazy stuff we are finding largely to be true.
Alzaebo #414302 July 18, 2024 3:23 pm 1
Is Dave waiting for the Hale-Boppe comet? The cucks just haven’t gone under the knife yet.
Ostei Kozelskii #414184 July 18, 2024 10:47 am 13
I’m glad you get a kick out of downvotes. Here. Have another of mine. Does my heart good. And there’s plenty more where that came from.
TempoNick #414198 July 18, 2024 11:23 am -6
I’m confident I will be proven right in the end. I’ve staked out my position here and on other boards and will continue to do so. I can’t believe you guys are on the same side as Nancy Pelosi on something and it isn’t causing you to question things.
Ostei Kozelskii #414215 July 18, 2024 11:52 am 8
Yeah, you’ve staked out your position alright. Ad nauseum.
Alzaebo #414305 July 18, 2024 3:28 pm 0
Staking someone out sounds oddly appealing for some reason…
Ostei Kozelskii #414321 July 18, 2024 4:07 pm 1
I’m usually willing to be steaked out. And I’ll even bring a good bottle of zinfandel.
Zaphod #414347 July 18, 2024 6:51 pm 3
A far more plausible explanation is that you were put on this earth by an all-knowing Creator so that on a day in July 2024AD for a brief instant, several people would agree with Vinnyvette about something. For once. The Lord moves in mysterious ways. Or the Simulator is just @$#%ing with us.
Vinnyvette #414356 July 18, 2024 7:47 pm -1
People agree with me about a lot of things. They just can’t handle my no kid gloves, in your face “Trump esque” style. 😉
Compsci #414183 July 18, 2024 10:47 am 4
Yeah, that about sums it up for me. Hun, I’m gonna stop right here and pause reading the commentary for a while. The postings post assassination attempt have become less than informative and interesting and the crazies seem in ascendency. As I’ve said before, a few trolls can destroy a discussion section very quickly, as so it has for me. UNZ is even worse, but that’s to be expected. However, UNZ comment program allows threads and posters to be blocked and at least one can filter out the good from bad until things die down.
Alzaebo #414346 July 18, 2024 6:12 pm 3
Well dammit, don’t stay gone long, you are truly a steadying hand.
Vinnyvette #414357 July 18, 2024 7:50 pm -4
If you can’t take the heat, get out of the kitchen. You sound like a woke, “need a safe space,” karen. This is a public forum not your own private club.
Salmon #414275 July 18, 2024 2:15 pm 0
How do retards like you manage to find places like this?
TempoNick #414296 July 18, 2024 3:01 pm -4
He who laughs last laughs loudest.
DLS #414144 July 18, 2024 9:56 am 11
“Ivanka’s sewer-dwelling prince” and“astroglide her way into the nomination”. Thanks for making me laugh this morning.
Steve #414299 July 18, 2024 3:15 pm 0
“If thou striketh the King, strike not to wound”.This is the quote you mentioned although I cannot remember where I first saw it. As per your comment about Haley, I’d have to agree. The big tell is that in a number of quarters her name keeps coming up with regards to a place in Trumps future administration. I keep hearing – usually from a female – “Trump still hasn’t told us what position he’s willing to offer Nikki Haley. He keeps preaching party unity, but people in her former campaign have told us they’ve received no outreach from the Trump campaign.” That type of crap.
Ostei Kozelskii #414322 July 18, 2024 4:08 pm 1
Her position in the administration should be doggie style…
Vinnyvette #414358 July 18, 2024 7:51 pm 0
You have piss poor taste in women.
BigJimSportCamper #414370 July 18, 2024 9:36 pm 1
“Why do they call you Lassie….?”
cg2 #414545 July 19, 2024 3:40 pm 0
you stole that from Hoagie a ways back
Zaphod #414348 July 18, 2024 6:55 pm 0
To the Lal Bagh with the LOL Bag. I subscribe to the General Dyer School of colonial administration. If there must be colonies. And there ought not be any.
Jack Dobson #414072 July 18, 2024 8:57 am 53
One reason that government policy now feels anti-white is because it generally feels anti-American, but in reality, it is simply indifferent to white Americans. This is one hundred percent wrong. Public policy is explicitly anti-white. My main fear is Trump will be allowed to win to lure whites back into the fold, particularly for use as cannon fodder in Forever Wars. I have yet to hear any explicit denunciation of a military draft although Vance came close.
Moran ya Simba #414080 July 18, 2024 9:00 am 37
It is genocide not just neglect
usNthem #414100 July 18, 2024 9:16 am 23
And right on cue, some 98 y/o WW2 veteran said he’d enlist for Trump. Ischmael must be rubbing their collective hands in glee…
Vinnyvette #414126 July 18, 2024 9:37 am 3
Uh no! Trump “no new wars.”Not just a slogan, because he proved it his first term. If Trump gets back in he will broker a deal with Putin to end the Ukraine fiasco, cut off funding, and tell Zelensky to take a hike. He will likely calm the sabre rattling with China, because he knows the U.S economy is completely dependent on Chinese manufacturing. Trump’s recent comments on Taiwan suggest his stance is “you’re big boys now, fight your own battles.” You’re position has an element of paranoia to it.
c matt #414165 July 18, 2024 10:25 am 9
You left out one glaring hotspot. Could be his “No new taxes,” “read my lips” moment.
Jack Dobson #414170 July 18, 2024 10:31 am 5
Less paranoia than realism, but from your lips to God’s ears, Vinny. I really want to hear an explicit plan to exit this madness.
Vinnyvette #414360 July 18, 2024 8:03 pm 0
I already out lined what I think Trump will do regarding foreign policy. Trump tried to do what he said he would to: the border, returning manufacturing to the U.S. and getting off of dependence on China and the b.s. “free trade” raw deal.You’ve seen him thwarted at every turn, by the swamp and most of his own party.This isn’t the same Trump this time around. He appear’s less naive. He’s learned you can’t make honest deals with the democrats or the swamp,and I think he’ll be less afraid to be the strong man he was accused of being. After everything the system has done to him personally, and surviving the long knives, I think he’ll be more focused and more determined. He’ll also not have the luxury of another term now to implement his agenda. He’ll have to be more expedient.
Salmon #414279 July 18, 2024 2:19 pm 1
Agreed. This would still be a pretty nice place to live if the rulers were merely indifferent to whitey.
Xman #414074 July 18, 2024 8:57 am 45
“Project Ukraine, for example, is exactly what Washington warned about in his farewell address.” Project ISRAEL is exactly what Washington warned about in his Farewell Address: “…nothing is more essential than that permanent, inveterate antipathies against particular nations, and passionate attachments for others, should be excluded… The nation which indulges towards another a habitual hatred or a habitual fondness is in some degree a slave.” Too bad nobody stood up and read that line during all the Israel-fellating at the Republican convention last night…
thezman #414096 July 18, 2024 9:12 am 34
Agreed. I have written about this specifically with regards to Israel. The difference is Israel assassinated a president and his brother, while Ukraine has yet to figure this out yet.
TempoNick #414116 July 18, 2024 9:33 am 7
That’s a new one on me. I didn’t realize it was the Jews whacking the Kennedys. Makes complete sense that our greatest ally was responsible. Their diaspora has done essentially the same thing to the American economy.
Tom K #414131 July 18, 2024 9:40 am 7
Read about Dimona at Unz Review.
Vinnyvette #414142 July 18, 2024 9:54 am 7
According to many “experts” Mossad had a hand in wacking the Kennedy’s. One of those experts is Ron Unz.
DLS #414157 July 18, 2024 10:15 am 14
Did you know Jack Ruby’s real name was Jacob Rubenstein?
TempoNick #414179 July 18, 2024 10:44 am 3
That, I did know. I wonder if Jeff Ruby who also owns a high-end steakhouse chain based in Cincinnati is also related.
Citizen of a Silly Country #414216 July 18, 2024 11:52 am 10
Wait until you learn about Johnson’s connections to Israel and Jews.
Jack Dobson #414117 July 18, 2024 9:33 am 5
Do you think D.C./Tel Aviv will install a successor puppet government or just let Project Ukraine go after Zelensky achieves room temperature? I don’t have a feel for what will happen afterwards.
DLS #414159 July 18, 2024 10:18 am 5
Considering we were in Iraq and Afghanistan for 20 years and accomplished nothing, I am not optimistic.
c matt #414166 July 18, 2024 10:27 am 6
I think Project Ukraine is over. Tel Aviv has concerns closer to home now, and American resources need to be redirected.
Alzaebo #414308 July 18, 2024 3:34 pm 0
I agree (with one of ours here) that Argentina is another bolthole in preparation if Ukraine and Israel both end up going south.
Jack Dobson #414369 July 18, 2024 9:07 pm 0
I really hadn’t considered an Option 3 but that is certainly a good possibility.
Ostei Kozelskii #414221 July 18, 2024 11:56 am 7
Something Ollie Stone neglected to tell us…
Citizen of a Silly Country #414224 July 18, 2024 11:59 am 20
It’s actually quite shocking how easily the US political system was taken over. You’d think that other countries/groups would follow the blueprint. When I look at what the Jews have done, it’s not that impressive. They accomplished a lot but, mainly, because they had no competition. They’re an ethnic mafia, that’s all. If another group was willing to use the same tactics, Jews would lose a lot of their power.
DLS #414230 July 18, 2024 12:16 pm 9
Indians say hold my beer.
Ostei Kozelskii #414255 July 18, 2024 1:28 pm 5
Please to do the needful and hold my Kingfisher Lite!
Pozymandias #414315 July 18, 2024 3:51 pm 1
Is that what the Pajeets drink? Never heard of it but I’m imaging some kind of Bud Lite type swill.
Ostei Kozelskii #414323 July 18, 2024 4:10 pm 1
Kingfisher is their most famous brew. Never tried it, myself. Generally drink white wine with Pajeet grub.
Zaphod #414349 July 18, 2024 7:01 pm 3
Kingfisher (can’t speak to any Lite version) is a surprisingly good beer. This despite my not being any fan of Indians.. not by a long shot. As are Tsingtao, Zhujiang (both Chinese). Beer Lao (for years, the brewery was the most modern shiny thing in Vientiane — looked like a spaceship had landed in the paddy fields) scores well. The strangest places have good beers.
Ostei Kozelskii #414451 July 19, 2024 11:03 am 0
I just made up the “Lite” part. And agreed on Tsingtao. A good quaffer.
Alzaebo #414313 July 18, 2024 3:48 pm 3
I got kicked off of twitter for comparing Afro-Aryans (jews) to australoid Aboriginal-Aryans (Brahmins, as the original Dravidian Indians are the same genotype as Australian Aborigines). These hybrid Aryan mulatto branches are uniquely dangerous in that they leaven Erectus social instincts with White intelligence.
Jeffrey Zoar #414118 July 18, 2024 9:34 am 21
As Z mentioned, a big part of the problem here is Trump’s base demands support for Israel. It’s been preached to them from the pulpit all their lives. I don’t know if there’s anything we can say (however true) that can overcome that. When I’ve tried, I usually just get those blank stares which indicate communication has ended.
DLS #414167 July 18, 2024 10:28 am 27
I usually ask a few questions: in what way are they our greatest ally? Did they ever fight in a war with us like Great Britain, France, Canada, Australia, etc.? Are they a key trading partner? Do we share a culture? Are we neighboring countries? The only response I ever get is that they are the only democracy in the ME. I then ask how that helps us more than non-democratic countries like Jordan, Egypt, Turkey, Saudi Arabia, Qatar and Kuwait. That’s when I get the blank stares, or something about how hard they had it during the holocaust.
Ostei Kozelskii #414223 July 18, 2024 11:59 am 9
Oy! Always wit da Shoah!
DLS #414241 July 18, 2024 12:43 pm 10
I forgot to mention this one: “they give us a lot of intel on their Muslim neighbors”, to which I respond “so we can kill their enemies for them?”
Xman #414271 July 18, 2024 2:01 pm 6
“The only response I ever get is that they are the only democracy in the ME.” Hamas was elected in democratic elections in Gaza… the American goyim uncritically accept the Jewish propaganda, which tends to omit that inconvenient fact.
Ostei Kozelskii #414286 July 18, 2024 2:44 pm 7
Democracy, schemocracy. Looking at Our Democracy and how it sprang from plain ol’ democracy, I’ll never look at this form of government again as an unfailing badge of moral sanctity.
DLS #414291 July 18, 2024 2:53 pm 3
Not to mention that Israel founded Hamas to splinter the Palestinian Authority.
Pozymandias #414316 July 18, 2024 3:54 pm 7
Yes, it’s amazing to think of it. Israel’s democracy creates vast amounts of economic and political “turbulence” in that region. Give me a good solid Arab dictatorship or monarchy and keep the damn oil flowing! That’s the beginning and end of any legitimate American interest there.
Alzaebo #414318 July 18, 2024 3:56 pm 6
The genesis of anti-white fervor is the Holo concept, “if white people stand up for their own interests, well,you know what happens…” Remember that one, my fellow Boomers? We used to hear “you know what happens” all the time.
Vinnyvette #414362 July 18, 2024 8:20 pm 0
You are not going to find any republican / conservative candidate who doesn’t kiss the ring of Israel at least publicly for the sake of appearances “politics.” You are never going to get perfect, from any president.
Ostei Kozelskii #414220 July 18, 2024 11:55 am 8
More wisdom in that one little statement from Washington than all the methane-enshrouded blether that has been emitted at the Rep convention combined.
Stephen Dowling Botts Decd #414102 July 18, 2024 9:22 am 44
One reason that government policy now feels anti-white is because it generally feels anti-American, but in reality, it is simply indifferent to white Americans.Affirmative action was rammed down upon us in 1964, and made even more intrusive by Johnson via totally democratic EO in 1965. That’s 60 years; if we use the standard 20 years as representing a generation we see that three generations of White people have now been actively discriminated against by Ruler fiat, with no end in sight. Doubtless the millions of Whites who were violated through this legislation will be relieved to discover it was not malice that robbed them of opportunity and earning potential, but only indifference. No harm, no foul, Honkey!Concerns over illegal aliens have been a thing since the 1950s. As a result, the Federal government is allowing millions of foreign Mudmen (to say nothing of their exotic diseases!) to pour across all borders, then using confiscatory taxation monies levied from White people to transport these same aliens into White majority states, cities, and locales. At the same time, Section 8 housing has been weaponized to destroy White enclaves. How many White people have been robbed, raped, and murdered by these alien savages? How many morewillbe? Well, it’s only indifference that fuels all this, so don’t work yourself into a lather about it!The Rulers’ Media organs routinely quash the most horrific stories of black on White violence and murder, while at the same time creating cults of personality around the vilest criminal scum– George Floyd, Nelson Mandela, Mumia Abu-Jamal, O. J. Simpson, Reginald Denny, the jogger who sparked the term when he went jogging in his work boots. Recently a strong, proud Negress approached a random White woman n an Ohio parking lot and murdered her 3 year old toddler in cold blood. For no reason. Then there was the case of little Cannon Hinnant, little 5 year old White boy shot dead by the N.N.D. (Nigger Next Door). And that little White boy tossed from the third floor balcony at the Mall of America.Crickets.I am betting that even most people on this board have never heard of the Zebra Killings. And yet the Federal Government ran protection for the rioting Mudslide when its propaganda organs whipped them into a murderous frenzy ( no great effort) over St. Floyd.But its just indifference, you understand. State backed riot and property destruction stimulate the economy, and the only inference to be drawn is that the Rulers love money so much that they are willing to suffer the collateral damage of the people for whom the government was created to serve. Sorry, crackers. Its not personal, its only business!Our history is being memory holed before our very eyes. The Charlottesville crowd had legal permits to march in defense of their history, their heroes, and their identity; the Rulers cynically used the event to stoke the White Supremacy, Domestic Terrorist bludgeon which was then turned on Whites as a group. All entertainment is now saturated with the ugly and the alien; niggers are aggressively inserted into all new films and TV shows. Whites in media are depicted as bumbling buffoons, troglodytes, drooling ‘tards; the race mixing has now become officially ubiquitous.The reason they do all these things is indifference. See, they don’t care about us either way, and that is why you and your tribe are under relentless, increasingly aggressive attack every single day. See, they just want to make sure everybody benefits!Now the RNC has featured an alien Mud Woman praying to her pagan god on live TV. All the docile Whites in the crowd obediently bowed their heads and closed their eyes while she invoked the blessings of her demonic deity. JD Vance is married to a “devout Hindu”; there are 1,000 + gods in the Hindu pantheon, so I estimate we will need 2.7 years of consecutive National Conventions to appeal to all of them.The takeaway here is that all of these things (and more besides) are easily explained by the indifference the Rulers have for you, your family, and all that gives spiritual meaning to your existence. People want to talk about peace and love and Societies, pffffft! Give me tariffs, i say! Give me platitudes about ‘the White working class!’ Give me explanations of expediency while Trump is photographed groveling at the Wailing Wall of an alien tribe!Thank God they are only indifferent to me. Dear Lord, what’s going to happen when they start getting hostile?
DLS #414228 July 18, 2024 12:12 pm 1
Reginald Denny was the white trucker beaten in the LA riots. Travis McMichael was the jogger you allude to.
Stephen Dowling Botts Decd #414249 July 18, 2024 1:09 pm 3
Thanks, you’re right. I was groping for Rodney King.
Ostei Kozelskii #414256 July 18, 2024 1:30 pm 3
An act I wouldn’t suggest to my worst enemy.
Stephen Dowling Botts Decd #414284 July 18, 2024 2:42 pm 2
Well….but I was groping with my nightstick after a hearty breakfast at Whammy Burger. @3g4me this is a reference to the 1993 filmFalling Down).
DLS #414294 July 18, 2024 2:57 pm 0
Oh, right. I was thinking of the other jogger in Georgia who grabbed for the gun of the guys making a citizens arrest. Anyway, I didn’t mean to detract from you excellent post.
DaBears #414250 July 18, 2024 1:13 pm 1
I couldn’t have stated it better. Snuff out their genetic line entirely.
Citizen of a Silly Country #414066 July 18, 2024 8:45 am 32
As Z notes, the cost of the empire has become too high. As such, our elite will have no choice but to scale back. It was inevitable.The dollar’s place as the Global Reserve Currency allowed us to maintain a ridiculously large military but at the expense of our manufacturing base and the rise in debt.Mass immigration and globalization kept the white working and middle class on their heels and inflation at bay.But those policies were slowly eroding the very society that our elites need to run the world.Our hollowed-out manufacturing base can no longer supply the empire’s military. We are a paper tiger – and the world knows it.Our debt makes use vulnerable to economic disruption while interest costs drain the budget.Globalization allowed the Chinese to become the dominant world economy.Immigration makes our economy 2nd world and destroys patriotism.Whites no longer are willing to serve in the military and will even less willing as the military become minority white.The empire will recede no because our elites will find a new love for Americans but because they will have no choice.
The Wild Geese Howard #414076 July 18, 2024 8:59 am 35
Reality always bats last and its average is 1.000.
Jack Dobson #414085 July 18, 2024 9:02 am 18
This. Reality has a quality of its own.
Moran ya Simba #414091 July 18, 2024 9:09 am 16
Reality is the worst mistress to cheat on. She always gets the last word
Ostei Kozelskii #414225 July 18, 2024 12:01 pm 5
And right now the bases are juiced.
Ed #414237 July 18, 2024 12:31 pm 3
Deep. Am definitely borrowing for future use.
Wkathman #414056 July 18, 2024 8:28 am 30
“Either the reformist elements of the oligarchy embrace America First, or something much worse than Trump comes next.”With the changing demographics in this country and the way that such a development affects voting, I find that final sentence questionable. Besides, the system has proven itself impervious to the results of elections. It appears that Donald Trump’s original term as president had zero impact on how the leviathan actually operates. That Trump obviously is a massive CULTURAL figure/icon blinds people to how inconsequential he has been in terms of how the state manages its affairs. The same bankers, military industrialists, Zionists, and other assorted corporate technocratic sociopaths will remain at the controls independent of which politician/actor pretends to run things from the Oval Office. Trump plays the role of Distractor in Chief. Or he’s the system’s Emmanuel Goldstein. Alternatively, he’s a middle finger for his supporters that feels damned satisfying yet achieves nothing of substance.
Captain Willard #414064 July 18, 2024 8:40 am 4
This is entirely possible but I offer an alternative scenario today. You certainly are correct about the first Trump years.
TempoNick #414114 July 18, 2024 9:31 am 10
“the system has proven itself impervious to the results of elections.” Nah, he has been very successful in my opinion. Whether you consider this a plan or is unique ability to goad them into shooting themselves in the foot, we’re at a point right now that an unprecedented number of people feel about the federal government like people in the Soviet Union felt about theirs 30 years ago. They are hanging by a thread and hopefully Trump will follow through and demolish what’s left of it when he steps into the oval Office in January.
Wkathman #414162 July 18, 2024 10:19 am 12
You must have slept through the whole period of January 2017 through January 2021. How many times will you try to kick the football that Lucy/the system keeps teeing up for you? Politics is theater.
DLS #414173 July 18, 2024 10:38 am 12
I agree. Think about all the evil Trump exposed, even if most of it was unintentional. The first step toward change is getting accurate information. It might not happen until hard times come, but they cannot re-hide what has been exposed.
Forever Templar #414060 July 18, 2024 8:33 am 27
“…it is simply indifferent to white Americans.” Lol, no. Just no, and it’s not even wrong. Heat shock and Z probably hadn’t put in a proper cycle since the move. Understandable.
The Right Doctor #414214 July 18, 2024 11:51 am 6
I just realized a good characterization of our side of the divide: uppity whites.
RealityRules #414190 July 18, 2024 10:59 am 26
I watched that Glenn Lowry and Charles Murray clip posted yesterday. It is interesting to watch these discussions of the utter verbal abuse of Whites and our civilization. Of course, they didn’t really discuss the mass replacement of our population inside of our homeland.That aside, the point that stands out is this. In every single one of these discussions the the talk is about how they fear the backlash. In other words, what is wrong is that Our dispossession and abuse is not the problem. The problem is that it will spark a backlash.That is how ingrained the Nuremberg Regime is in our culture. Murray and Lowry are good guys. But, even they have so internalized the anti-White morality of the Nuremberg Regime that they can’t just say, “Villainizing White people, replacing them in their own homelands, speaking openly and overtly of their genocide, celebrating their demise is wrong. They built the world that everyone wants to live in. Genociding a people, replacing them demographically is pure evil. We must join with them to stop this.”Now, when they change from fearing the backlash to feeling the outrage we all feel and helping us to institute the backlash we will make progress. You know why? Because that will mean that rather than the world trying to keep the lid on the pot so it doesn’t blow, they will begin actively fighting against the people who are perpetrating this evil. This will require naming names. Of course, that is when the people who instituted the Nuremberg Regime and perpetuate it to their advantage will be named. That means going to war with the real people who lie behind the system.Of course, for Us, Our Moral Subjugation is so complete that we have our own work to do to get it together. No point in waiting around for proxies. Put your mind to becoming that heroic figure who can lead or help lead us. Out of a couple of million doing so, a proper number will realize that effort and millions will be prepared to capitalize on their breakthrough.That Azerrad speech was excellent. He explicitly said no more hiding behind how unfair things are to Asians and other proxies. The dam is breaking. Now, we need White men to start speaking explicitly on our behalf and to rise up and be seen and heard.Let, “The Backlash”, begin.
Stephen Dowling Botts Decd #414199 July 18, 2024 11:25 am 8
Hear, hear!
Arshad Ali #414107 July 18, 2024 9:24 am 25
“As the cost of empire exceeds the benefit of the empire, the people at the top begin to hollow out that which makes them possible.”Quite so. Maybe there was a time after WW2 when the empire served the majority of white American people but now empire serves only a minority — maybe the top 10 or 15%. The rest of white America is subsidizing the costs of empire. Or as the saying goes, “profits remain private while costs are socialized.” Thus the unfolding debacle in Ukraine has perhaps benefited the military-industrial sector — but at the cost of everyone else. Trump instinctively and viscerally understands this, as does his base of supporters.The reins of empire are in the hands of a rootless, transnational elite, which includes deracinated and disloyal whites. And this elite is cannibalizing white America.On a side note and as an afterthought, I want to say that Trump also understands that the days of empire are waning. Hegemony is gone. Control of the sea lanes is going. Military supremacy is (arguably) gone. The denizens of white America are going to have to transition to a new life in the ruins of empire. But what will the contours of that life be like?
c matt #414156 July 18, 2024 10:15 am 14
Military supremacy is gone, in the sense of supporting empire. There is still military power in the sense of destructive force, but that does not maintain rule over foreign lands. For that, you need competent boots on the ground, and the US doesn’t have enough of that. And that’s a good thing.
Dutchboy #414137 July 18, 2024 9:48 am 23
Trump did indeed infuriate the bad guys with his naughty talk but he governed pretty much as a standard Republican. He violated Machiavelli’s rule: Never do an enemy a small injury. Talk infuriates but action incapacitates. I don’t think he has it in him to do more than use his mouth but we shall see.
Zulu Juliet #414206 July 18, 2024 11:39 am 6
“I don’t think he has it in him to do more than use his mouth” This. Did Trump ever use the veto pen? Not that I recall. I will vote for Trump just to give the finger to the Regime, but even if he gets back into office, he has shown he’s not very good at the job.
Dutchboy #414278 July 18, 2024 2:18 pm 3
Trump is a real estate developer. The job involves slinging a lot of convincing BS. It’s a hard habit to break.
Ploppy #414240 July 18, 2024 12:40 pm 6
I think it comes down to if he personally accepts the lone nut narrative the regime is pushing over the hole in his ear. Hopefully he pulls enough away from boomer truth and finally gets it in his head that we’re at war and his instinct is to fight.
Hemid #414081 July 18, 2024 9:01 am 21
I’ve heard that “the polls” (whichever ones) are unchanged by recent events. Obviously opinion can be generated and/or selected to send whatever message, but it’s a plausible result.It’s true—or it’s The Message. What is it?A blatant regime attempt to murder the great symbol of its opposition—of citizen resistance toanything—cost it no votes. The victim’s heroic/mediagenic response to getting shot in the face gained him no one’s consideration. There are not only no undecided voters, but no persuadable Americans.Literal deathmoves no one.I believe it. As I say too often, Democratic voters are far more “extreme” than their politicians, who may be murderous retards but that’s tempered by—i.e.,they waste time on—lust, gluttony, the “favors of office.” By contrast, the average D voter is a full-on psycho demanding constant escalation, more blood, total death, surgical dumps of kids’ dicks piled to the skies, etc.You think your ditzy Democrat daughter who maybe watches too much tv but really she just wants the best for everyone isn’t like that. You are wrong…statistically.
Jack Dobson #414101 July 18, 2024 9:20 am 9
You are correct. I beat this drum a lot, but the primary problem is quite white. My dream scenario, the most non-violent one possible, is that these types secede. The problem, again as you point out, is that the politicians are less radical than their constituents and want the present situation with its attendant gibs to continue. I suspect the 2020 election was outright stolen to forestall leftwing secession. I honestly have no clue if that will happen this time.
Alzaebo #414330 July 18, 2024 4:38 pm 2
No, Jack, you are absolutely right to beat that drum. As an example, the comments on a dissident site, the Burning Platform. Despite the author’s good intentions, most of the comment section was /our guys/ flailing about, desperate to shout “Dye patch!” This is why the rulers are, yes, utterly indifferent to white, middle class Americans.
Maxda #414218 July 18, 2024 11:53 am 17
John Glubb wrote at length about the final stage of empires. Corruption and foreigners become prevelant. History repeats repeatedly. The works of the contemporary historians of Baghdad in the early tenth century are still available. They deeply deplored the degeneracy of the times in which they lived, emphasising particularly the indifference to religion, the increasing materialism and the laxity of sexual morals. They lamented also the corruption of the officials of the government and the fact that politicians always seemed to amass large fortunes while they were in office.
Moran ya Simba #414247 July 18, 2024 1:00 pm 5
Glubb does not get enough attention. His essay is still the most precient on decline I’ve seen. I think he set the frame we must understand current events within
Zaphod #414350 July 18, 2024 7:06 pm 2
Years ago when I first learned about Glubb I found it a bit strange to say the least that an Englishman stayed on with the Arab Legion and fought against the ‘Good Guys’. The brainwashing one grew up with….
Jeffrey Zoar #414258 July 18, 2024 1:42 pm 2
Has there ever been any era or place in which the scribes did not deplore the degeneracy, the indifference to religion, the materialism, and the lax morals?
Wiffle #414310 July 18, 2024 3:38 pm 5
Yes, there have been. It is real that civilizations decline and when they do people ignore God, want stuff, and sleep around.
Zaphod #414351 July 18, 2024 7:09 pm 0
Old Fart in an Edo sushi bar ca. 1845 after over-bingeing on second-hand shunga prints: O Tempura! O Morays!
TempoNick #414205 July 18, 2024 11:34 am 16
Slightly off topic, but somewhat related:JD’s parallels to Zero are a little scary. Touted as “a Marine”, he was a journalist like Al Gore. Plucked from obscurity, back bench senator, short timer, Ivy League (Yale vs. Harvard). Connections to Asia a via India for him and Indonesia for Zero. Both were introduced to us through ghost written books that’s springboarded them to the Senate. Billionaire sponsors.Holes starting to appear in his resume. Today, I was reading how he wasn’t very good at private equity.Everything seems to be a media facade these days. Nothing there when you scratch beneath the surface.
Paintersforms #414219 July 18, 2024 11:54 am 8
Coming out of nowhere like that does make one wonder. Interracial marriage, too. Seemed like a lot of the alt-right and alt-lite guys had that going on. Like you can’t say things that need to be said if you’re trad and normal, because you’d obviously be a Nazi or something, but hey, this guy’s wife is brown! It got that screwed up that fast. I’ll give the guy a chance, don’t know enough to judge. Then again, I thought that about Obama lol.
TempoNick #414232 July 18, 2024 12:19 pm 12
Somebody ran a clip the other day about the Ohio Republican Senate debate and how he said that he was getting closer to his faith and got rebaptized or something like that. Of course, the cynical side of me says he did that to prove that his wife didn’t turn him into a Hindu.
Hemid #414309 July 18, 2024 3:35 pm 6
It’s a fad among the Thiel-affiliated to become late-in-life Catholics. Maybe he requires it. The obvious joke is that he can’tquiteforce his loyalists to convert to his religion—pederasty—so he demands the nearest thing. Judged by his face, Vance’s conversion was superfluous.Hi-yo! Honestly I find Thiel nearly incomprehensible because he seems so thoughtless. (“René Girard’s protegé” btw.) But I understand what his companies do: catalog usmalevolently.
Wiffle #414327 July 18, 2024 4:29 pm -1
For us pleb Catholics who really believe the faith (how very gauche), I can only say: God will not be mocked.Dante’s Infero can catch everyone up with what Catholicism really teaches on grooming and homosexuality. Priests per capita are far safer than public school teachers.The small hats did do excellent job at the smear campaign though, regarding the people who the Church was persuaded to take in the first place in part because of their influence.
Wiffle #414328 July 18, 2024 4:31 pm 2
A serious Catholic would never be rebaptized. I am not convinced that all these nominal Catholics in globalists circles are all that serious. They do seem to comfort the elites though and they are rather fond of the art and the intellectual traditions within the faith.
Zfan #414343 July 18, 2024 5:45 pm 4
i question this assertion that Vance was “rebaptized”. The Catholic Church recognizes every baptism done “in the name of the Father, and the Son, and the Holy Spirit”. He was received into the Church as an adult, as I was, and that does not include baptism for a baptized Protestant Christian. No Catholic priest would “rebaptize” a Catholic. As the parent of a child being baptized he will repeat the vows on behalf of his child.
Wiffle #414419 July 19, 2024 9:33 am 0
Yes, I agree.
Fakeemail #414194 July 18, 2024 11:13 am 16
Are we still not aware elections are rigged? Trump will be installed, if they want him to be. And perhaps they do as Ackman and others are balls-out on the Trump train. Trump unabashedly is pro Israel as we know. A great irony of Trump, is that at heart he’s just a civ natter and would like nothing more to be legitimized as a respectable republican who lowers taxes, loves legal immigration, and gets people all patriotic and stuff.
Jeffrey Zoar #414203 July 18, 2024 11:30 am 8
I believe there is a limit to how riggable they are. If Trump were able to flip a couple of traditionally blue states like New Jersey or New Mexico that ought to overcome it. And then there’s the question of what if the riggers themselves aren’t so motivated this time. It doesn’t seem like Biden is inspiring very many people lately.
Ostei Kozelskii #414260 July 18, 2024 1:45 pm 4
To the extent that there are difficulties with rigging, the biggest may be that many people are onto the riggers this time. The 2020 theft caught people by surprise just as much as Trump’s election caught the Power Structure by surprise in 2016. But the mechanics of the 2024 election will be under more scrutiny–the vast majority of it unofficial–than any election in AINO’s history. Anything suspicious will be documented and disseminated. And if the shenanigans are prevalent and obvious enough, and Joey Depends “wins” again, there could be displeasure.
Alzaebo #414340 July 18, 2024 5:29 pm 2
“…a limit to how riggable they are.” The ballot harvesters really can only operate at scale in a relatively few black or brown urban swing state districts.
Hokkoda #414163 July 18, 2024 10:22 am 13
“or something much worse than Trump comes next.”A retroactive prophesy. They failed to embrace MAGA IN 2017. What followed Trump 45 is absolutely, measurably, objectively, worse. Economy? Worse. Inflation? Massively worse. Foreign affairs? 2.5 new wars. Illegals? 30M invasion. Roads/bridges/infrastructure? Cratering outside of government-controlled enclaves and key Congressional districts. Social cohesion? Worse. Orderly politics? They’re now arresting, jailing and shooting at our candidates.What could be worse than the O’Biden regime? Nuclear war. Economic collapse. Anarchy/color revolution terrorism. Balkanization. American military forces deployed against US citizens in “troublesome” areas.The elite’s version of what comes next was installing a feeb they could control. The next, next? A true villain unemcumbered by physical and mental ailments / stupidity.
Ostei Kozelskii #414261 July 18, 2024 1:46 pm 2
You’ve got a dramatic flair for the dystopian.
Hoagie #414287 July 18, 2024 2:44 pm 1
Actually I think that’s a dystopian flair for the dramatic.
Vinnyvette #414363 July 18, 2024 8:26 pm -2
But he’s 100% right on the money. I think you and the other schmuck lack an eye for the obvious. Or just have a bad case of bargain basement TDS.
Dr_Mantis_Toboggan_MD #414168 July 18, 2024 10:28 am 12
America First is simply government doing what it SHOULD’VE already been doing: The work of making the lives of the people it is supposed to serve better.When I think of all of the good that could done with keeping the billions we’ve spent on the Ukraine, Israel and Taiwan projects, it breaks my heart. Our interstates are pockmarked with suspension shattering ruts and potholes, our bridges are falling apart, crime is rampant in our black-infested hellhole cities and airplanes are falling from the sky. And yet the ruling elites only care about immiserating whites with the climate change mumbo jumbo, limitless immigration to eliminate whites’ self determination, encouragement of sodomy and drug abuse and identity politics (acceptable for all except whites).Our ruling junta is simply a sop for the MIC and Israel lobbies. We are ruled from the shiny office buildings in the DC suburbs and Tel Aviv.I know electing Trump will only be a slight improvement over Biden in a lot of areas, especially when it comes to Israeli matters. But a new Trump administration will likely at least change philosophy of government from anti-white pogroms to something more acceptable.
Tars Tarkas #414236 July 18, 2024 12:27 pm 6
“I know electing Trump will only be a slight improvement over Biden in a lot of areas, especially when it comes to Israeli matters. But a new Trump administration will likely at least change philosophy of government from anti-white pogroms to something more acceptable.”Change is too strong a word here. I’d say temporarily suppress might be a better way of putting it. Trump is to politics what a painkiller is to stage 4 cancer, temporary relief at best.But this is the best case scenario where Trump actually learns from his first term. Having picked a never-trumper is proof he learned nothing. If he wins, prepare to hear daily pronocuncements of the alleged UE rating of women, gays, jews, mestizos, trannies and everyone else except the dreaded White Male. Or how much he supports HBCUs. Maybe some rappers visiting the White House and talking about how great Daddy T is. I suppose ignored is better than hated, but it’s still not pro-White.
ProZNoV #414071 July 18, 2024 8:55 am 12
If by some miracle Trump wins, his only path to success is to initiate Operation Valkyrie against his own entrenched military industrial Congressional complex. (Didn’t work out well for Stauffenberg) I’m not optimistic.
Moran ya Simba #414087 July 18, 2024 9:04 am 9
The assassination attempt, the fist and the high of its failure was a boost. But now it’s back to what passes for normal. And we still have all the same problems. Civilizational crises of this magnitude take a long time and a lot of trouble to work out. We’re still in a rut
Jeffrey Zoar #414125 July 18, 2024 9:37 am 4
It’s curious that the Ds suddenly toned down the BOM messaging. As if they never meant it. If they did mean it then they should want him dead. Maybe it will return, but when? How? Awkward.
Alzaebo #414331 July 18, 2024 4:43 pm 0
“No harm! No foul! See, it was all just a joke, we really didn’t mean it! You guys did it, anyways, what’re you blaming us for?”
DLS #414192 July 18, 2024 11:01 am 2
You’re not wrong, but always remember that despair is a sin.
Captain Willard #414062 July 18, 2024 8:39 am 12
Great essay – I would just add the following: we are seeing Intra-Elite competition emerging aligned with the America First narrative. It sucks that grass-roots Dirt people cannot accomplish much without significant Elite support. And for sure the movement risks being co-opted by self-interested Elites. But the last few weeks have seen meaningful segments of Silicon Valley and Wall Street get behind Trump/Vance. Unfortunately the best we are likely to do in the short run is get an Elite more focused on domestic concerns. These people want to do business, not fight foreign battles. They’re always going to support Israel, but maybe make less expensive trouble elsewhere.
Jack Dobson #414078 July 18, 2024 9:00 am 18
I don’t think it is unfortunate at all. All revolutions require elites gone rogue. The problem is co-opting. That aside, the booing of Mitch McConnell was a healthy development.
Marko #414109 July 18, 2024 9:28 am 11
This is the best thing coming out of 2024 so far. Finally we are getting a counter-elite. There is something shifting out there. Hopefully it’s permanent and not just a pendulum swing.Compare where we are now compared to this time last year:*DEI is falling by the wayside, one large corporation at a time.*Nationalists (civic or otherwise) are gaining popularity in the West. Not electoral wins yet, but it’s only growing.*Big-money men are starting to talk about meritocracy again. If nothing else, this will fix a lot of problems.*Biden has been embarrassed multiple times, and nobody likes Kamala.*Israel is becoming a bad word.*Right wing media has survived the purges of 2017-2023, and is stronger than ever.*People were worried that Trump would be pushed out of the nominating process or thrown in jail, but none of that’s happened, and he cut through the competition (without even debating them) and PWNS the Republican party now.Not bad!
Hun #414148 July 18, 2024 10:00 am 2
Honestly, 2024 feels like an echo of 2016.
DLS #414186 July 18, 2024 10:51 am 1
The turning of Elon Musk has been pretty remarkable. He is very outspoken, young and cool, has a lot of billions to throw around.
Alzaebo #414337 July 18, 2024 4:54 pm 0
George, don’t get wobbly on me now… No really, not bad, not bad at all. That’s a great list.
Alzaebo #414335 July 18, 2024 4:49 pm -1
Stock market go up, the donors must’ve breathed a sigh of relief. They will never, ever, blame themselves, they’ll just have an epiphany that see, they were actually right all along. Trump’s really not so bad, they knew that all the time.
The Wild Geese Howard #414069 July 18, 2024 8:54 am 11
Commie traitors always accuse others of committing the crimes they are guilty of: https://www.zerohedge.com/political/ex-cia-wife-wapos-spy-hunter-max-boot-indicted-foreign-spy
Jan #414209 July 18, 2024 11:47 am 10
This election is far from over for Trump. I fully expect some sort of incident that will be blamed on him and his followers. Like a suicide bombing in a black church where the only remains of the bomber are his red maga cap and his “Fight Fight” t-shirt. Those in power right now must be terrified about the prospect of vengeful OrangeMan conducting an investigation into the attempt on his life – or worse – making Kennedy AG and letting him off the leash. I can’t see a scenario in which the current administration just allows this to happen.
Jeffrey Zoar #414229 July 18, 2024 12:16 pm 8
There’s a sense in which the regime seems to be all bluff. They like to appear totalitarian but they don’t really like to act totalitarian. Seen during the plandemic when they backed down as soon as anybody resisted. A similar feeling seems to be in the air this week. As if the moment the assassination failed, they realized they didn’t have it in themselves to go all the way. I don’t know how or if they can restart the Enemy Of Democracy rhetoric now that they’ve retreated from it. Either you meant it or you didn’t, and if you meant it then you can never tone it down.
LineInTheSand #414282 July 18, 2024 2:35 pm 0
“Like a suicide bombing in a black church where the only remains of the bomber are his red maga cap and his “Fight Fight” t-shirt.” This is very easy to imagine happening. (I am told, but have not verified, that the FBI did a similar bombing in the mid 60s that they blamed on the KKK.)
Tom K #414113 July 18, 2024 9:30 am 10
Maybe the Regime is indifferent to the average White American in terms of foreign policy goals but the average coastal drone within that hive does hate the average White Heartland American. That has been proven time and time again by their actions and words.The usual suspects running foreign policy and the oligarchs behind them such as Larry Fink of Blackrock aren’t going to slow down or reconsider their goal of bringing Russia to heel, ideally even breaking her up to gain control over her natural resources and just because Trump is in the White House won’t change that.If Trump doesn’t move forcefully to rein in the intelligence complex within Imperial Washington, all of his efforts will continue to be undermined. And I haven’t heard much about his plans to do that. Of course, he knows he can’t breathe a word on that if he has any such plans in that regard and that’s why you see the panic in official Washington because if he does have any such notions, they see that as a threat to their existence. Even the hint of that would set the machinery in overdrive to remove him one way or another.In fact, the real fireworks will begin when someone does come forward to accomplish that. It probably won’t be Trump because every politician since JFK knows the consequences of challenging that entity and Trump is no exception. The political circumstances in Washington would have to be considerably altered for that to happen. Things could unspool quicker than we can imagine or it could take more decades. If the vulture capitalists and their apparatchiks in the intelligence complex give up on their goal of complete world subjugation, and accommodates to the reality of a multipolar world, then maybe things change. Otherwise, no, because the oligarchs and defense contractors pulling the strings aren’t giving up on that goal any time soon. Vultures gonna be vultures.
Moran ya Simba #414073 July 18, 2024 8:57 am 10
We’re going to need a bigger trump than Trump
Vinnyvette #414089 July 18, 2024 9:06 am 6
Trump is Godzilla. there is no political animal in American politics bigger than Trump, and nothing close on the horizon.
Moran ya Simba #414093 July 18, 2024 9:11 am 13
The Trump you imagine is not the Trump that exists in the real world. But hope is necessary so I don’t have a beef with you preaching the gospel of the savior
Vinnyvette #414104 July 18, 2024 9:22 am -1
I said nothing of Trump as savior. I said there is no one bigger than him, because you’re wrong. Name he or she who is bigger than Trump. I’m sure I’ll be waiting till hell freezes over.
Blasphemous #414128 July 18, 2024 9:38 am 11
George Soros your boy Trump holds no more real power than Hulk Hogan
Vinnyvette #414149 July 18, 2024 10:01 am -7
You’re just as much an ass clown as your boy Hulk Hogan. Got something better? If Soro’s had THAT much power Trump doesn’t win in 2016, and Soro’s rent a DA’s bogus cases are all going belly up. Documents case against Trump dismissed. Etc… etc…
DLS #414200 July 18, 2024 11:26 am 2
Half true. Hulk Hogan is not turning over government rocks and exposing the lizards and maggots. Trump is a first step. Whether we take another step is uncertain.
Zaphod #414352 July 18, 2024 7:14 pm 0
“The Trump you imagine is not the Trump that exists in the real world.” Knowingly or not you have successfully translated the first line of the Tao Te Ching into 2024 American. Care to continue? 😀
Felix Krull #414106 July 18, 2024 9:24 am 15
What Moran said. Godzilla is we, the people, tuning in on white identity politics, something the internet gave us. Trump simply found a way to ride the monster.
Jack Dobson #414112 July 18, 2024 9:30 am 9
Yes. The internet is for us what the television was for a certain other Tribe. The mad scramble to control its information and content indicates as much. Take note how much further to the Right so many young whites are.
Felix Krull #414124 July 18, 2024 9:37 am 6
The mad scramble to control its information and content indicates as much. It is quite incidental that a lot of the kosher-right reaction to the Curious Case of Trump’s Ear is about cancelling mean words on the internet. “Oh, vey! Some leftard on the internet said he wished the sniper had brained Trump! Shut it down!”
Tom K #414139 July 18, 2024 9:48 am 5
On the other hand they’ve invented a new word, “photoganda” for the iconic image. Photograph + Proganda.
Stephen Dowling Botts Decd #414150 July 18, 2024 10:02 am 14
It’s sort of interesting that they acknowledge that such media can be used for propaganda purposes. Because alltheirphotos exist only to disseminate The News, you understand.
Jack Dobson #414172 July 18, 2024 10:37 am 8
Yes. Along the same lines, it is amazing how TikTok only became problematic early last autumn.
Tars Tarkas #414264 July 18, 2024 1:48 pm 1
That’s dumb. Photographs and even paintings have long been used as propaganda. We have really good records going back to WW1. It probably happened before, it’s just not as well documented. I’m sure one side of the civil war had the other side’s soldiers painted to look like demons or something. They probably had recruiting posters with paintings like this. Or “our women” being attacked by the evil enemy.
Zaphod #414353 July 18, 2024 7:16 pm 0
Teacher: “Yes Joyce. What is it?”Irish Snottyfaced Kid in the Back: “Photogander Sir!”
Jack Dobson #414171 July 18, 2024 10:35 am 7
We saw the same with the evil TikTok becoming the demondu jour.
Felix Krull #414207 July 18, 2024 11:40 am 5
Yes. The free speech internet anno 2000-2016 catapulted ourguys into prominence and success, and now you have ourgoys clamoring for more cancel culture. Hm…. The Gypsy King just released a good video on this.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2jTwZ3Vruw8
Tars Tarkas #414259 July 18, 2024 1:43 pm 6
I can’t express just how much I disagree with him and his cucking. “Oh, I never cancelled anyone!!!”Make them live by their own rules. If we can’t have free speech, they can’t have it.Cause that’s the thing with “the left” All the rules are for us. The rules do not apply to them. They get to do whatever they want. “Right wing cancel culture” is awesome and I fully endorse it. Of course, I still oppose “cancel culture” when it’s used against us. Be hypocrites. It’s been 100 years of nonstop hypocrisy from “the left”Screw principles. The only principle we should follow is do what is good for us and bad for the bad guys.
Felix Krull #414270 July 18, 2024 2:01 pm 5
If the Commies are against free speech and we decide, fuck it, we’re against free speech too, well, nobody is left to defend free speech.There are other ways to hurt our enemies than reinforcing the drama queen mindset that makes cancel culture possible in the first place; once the current purge of random Commie internet celebs is over, it’s still our enemies that sit in the HR departments, the universities, the news rooms and in the investment banks.I approve of double standards; I have one standard for my own family and another one for the neighbor’s, but this is not a random edge issue, free speech is our battleship, our war-winning weapon. Let’s not throw it away.
Tars Tarkas #414274 July 18, 2024 2:13 pm 5
I’m not saying to abandon free speech for us. Just for them. I support our free speech. Because right now, the only people supporting it don’t have it. To defend their free speech is to defend the status quo where they have free speech and we don’t. EFF THAT. It would be far better that we both don’t have it than only they have it. Of course it would be better if we all had it because we win. We are right and they are wrong.
Felix Krull #414283 July 18, 2024 2:35 pm 4
I’m not saying to abandon free speech for us. Just for them.In principle a morally sound and sensible proposition, but1) we don’t have that power so let’s not give corporate more excuses to fire people for thoughtcrime, but more important2) if we engage in cancel culture, we reinforce their frame, the notion that saying mean words on the internet is the worst thing ever.It has the same self-defeating effect on the discourse as saying “Dems are the real racists.”Cancel culture gives our corporate overlords more power: if they want someone out, they can just scroll through his timeline and oops! there’s a recipe for brownies, and we do not tolerate that kind of racially charged language around here.We should fight with lawfare instead, sue for unlawful termination every time one of our guys got fired for posting Boomer-level memes on Facebook.
Ostei Kozelskii #414290 July 18, 2024 2:52 pm 1
I agree with you wholeheartedly. And not so very long ago I was dam’ near a free speech absolutist. Principles are for schlemiels and shmucks.
Felix Krull #414292 July 18, 2024 2:54 pm 2
Do you also agree it’s a clever tactic to call Commies “the REAL racists?” Because it’s the same problematic.
Tars Tarkas #414300 July 18, 2024 3:19 pm 1
But there is a difference. “Democrats are the real racists” is merely bad rhetoric. Our refusal to defend their rights only they have is not bad rhetoric, it’s action. It’s also right out of their own manual(rules for radicals), which is always make your opponent live up to their own standards. Besides, there are enough cucks who do denounce what is deceitfully called “right wing cancel culture” to maintain plausible deniability.
Felix Krull #414307 July 18, 2024 3:33 pm 6
“Democrats are the real racists” is merely bad rhetoric. No, it’s a poison pill because it reinforces the Leftist frame that being racist is a bad thing. Same thing with reinforcing Karen culture. Censorship is the ring of Sauron, it cannot be used for good. Whenever you wield it for whatever reason, it makes Him stronger. And the left doesn’t believe in free speech so you’re not making them live up to anything, you’re living down to their standards.
Ostei Kozelskii #414329 July 18, 2024 4:31 pm 4
I agree that reinforcing racism/evil is a bad thing. And it’s a good point to make. However, I think branding Leftists as anti-white racists more than makes up for it by giving credence to the notion that whites are a distinct group with our own legitimate grievances. If reinforcing racism/evil is a 6 on the badness scale and bolstering white identity is an 8 on the goodness scale, then that’s a plus-2 for white people. PS–Are we certain censorship is evil? Do we think Putin should have let Pussy Riot do their thing?
Felix Krull #414372 July 18, 2024 11:38 pm 2
However, I think branding Leftists as anti-white racists more than makes up for itYes, “anti-white” is a powerful rhetorical device but it’s a tactical one because eventually, when our brothers are ready for it, we’ll have to abandon it, make a 180 and choose “racism is love” instead. That transition might be harder if we’ve spent a decade pretending to be butthurt about being called crackers.And likewise, if we reinforce the notion that words are violence, we muzzle ourselves in the long run, because our overlords will run with it like a nigger with a stolen flatscreen.I would like to see Trump or somebody else with a huge megaphone call them…etc.If I gained control of Trumps earpiece, I’d have him say “I don’t care about the color of your skin, as long as you’re a racist.”Do we think Putin should have let Pussy Riot do their thing?Well, I believe in public decency laws and public order and all that, and for disturbing a church service they’d already earned a “dime”, as Solzhenitsyn called it – ten years in the camps.But on the internet? Yah, let them call for the abandonment of religion or mother Russia or whatever, let them wave their tits around all day and let people call them traitors and kike sluts in return.Whatever we might think about PR, they gave us a rare treat: honest-to-god knout action, right out of Anna Karenina.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oXWlQxUNFLYI’d say the guffaws are worth at least six months off their sentence.
Ostei Kozelskii #414489 July 19, 2024 12:40 pm 2
“Yes, “anti-white” is a powerful rhetorical device but it’s a tactical one because eventually, when our brothers are ready for it, we’ll have to abandon it, make a 180 and choose “racism is love” instead. That transition might be harder if we’ve spent a decade pretending to be butthurt about being called crackers.” That’s a bridge I’m willing to burn once we get to it, Felix. Right now, the most important thing is arriving at the bridge and I’m willing to use any tool in the box to get there.
Ostei Kozelskii #414326 July 18, 2024 4:24 pm 2
I would like to see Trump or somebody else with a huge megaphone call the pomo fascists anti-white racists because that’s what they are, and it needs to be said. In this case, honesty would dovetail with doing what’s best for whites.
Wiffle #414311 July 18, 2024 3:46 pm 4
If it makes anyone feel better, there has never been such a thing as “free speech”. Lefties used it as a modern club to get their way. However, there is always someone censoring speech at all times. The only thing under real discussion (ha!) is who does the censoring for what.Free speech as defined by the Founding Fathers was: The Federal government could not jail state leaders for working against a Federal government gone astray. State leaders were always welcome to censor speech however. What’s in the Bill of Rights existed only at the Federal level generally to protect the sovereignty of the states. Individual rights were secondary and in support of the state rights. (Read 1A and 2A very carefully and you’ll see what I’m talking about.)Now that the states are wholly owned by the Federal government, the Federal goverment can jail state officials for speech against the Federal government, supposedly for the protection of individuals.
Felix Krull #414373 July 18, 2024 11:50 pm 2
there has never been such a thing as “free speech”. And we’ve never had the internet before. Lefties used it as a modern club to get their way. And it worked like a charm. Would be a shame to throw that club away, now that we’re the ones fighting The Man.
Wiffle #414420 July 19, 2024 9:34 am 0
I’m all for “turn about is fair play”. 🙂
Vinnyvette #414135 July 18, 2024 9:47 am -5
He is talking about “a person” singular. A political figure. Not the body politic.
Felix Krull #414143 July 18, 2024 9:54 am 15
And it’s not Trump as a political figure that’s big and scary, he just looks that way because he’s sitting on top of Godzilla. The usual suspects are not afraid of Trump – he’s one of their guys after all – they are afraid of a white awakening, and they project that fear and hate onto Trump.
Stephen Dowling Botts Decd #414152 July 18, 2024 10:06 am 18
The usual suspects are not afraid of Trump – he’s one of their guys after all – they are afraid of a white awakening, and they project that fear and hate onto Trump. I think you nailed it right there.
Ostei Kozelskii #414231 July 18, 2024 12:17 pm 4
Correct. And the members of the Power Structure scare quite easily. That makes them easy to defeat in a pitched battle between roughly equal forces, but reckless and exceedingly dangerous when they own the heavy battalions.
Wiffle #414312 July 18, 2024 3:47 pm 3
Yes, exactly. The objections to Trump are about all their worst fears, not that he’s actually their worst fears.
Vinnyvette #414364 July 18, 2024 8:36 pm -2
Where was this “we the people” monster before Trump hit the scene? 🤣🤣🤣 grilling and chilling.Trump is Godzilla, the leader, the people have followed.Trump has taken all the abuse from the swamp / MSM / and now an assasin’s bullet.“We the people” my ass! 🤣🤣🤣
DLS #414204 July 18, 2024 11:32 am 6
Riding the monster, yes. But he had to put a large enough saddle on it to hold his balls. He is married to a super model and owns his own golf courses. He does not need to risk his life, freedom and wealth just to pad his ego. There is a much higher reason he is risking so much.
Felix Krull #414222 July 18, 2024 11:58 am -7
He’s married (for the third time) to a retired sex worker cum executive mail order bride, whom for some reasons Americans think is Jackie Kennedy reincarnate, just because she doesn’t dress like a burlesque dancer.And the fact that he’s a millionaire only makes him more suspect, because the more you have, the more you’ve got to lose.Trump 2016 was an aberration, he was signed up as a side show and was not supposed to win, so he didn’t take his own campaign very seriously. Trump didn’t as much mount Godzilla as Godzilla noted him making vague, pro-giant lizard noises, grabbed him in its jaws and flung him into the White House, along with his whore wife.Now we’re dealing with another man because this time, he IS supposed to win, and that means he has reached an agreement with a powerful faction of the usual suspects, who will want their pound of flesh.I still can’t get over Saturday, I swear we’re in a movie script and being railroaded somewhere bad, that there’s a big plot twist coming soon.
DLS #414238 July 18, 2024 12:34 pm 12
A bit harsh, Felix. A fashion model is a “whore”, a man risking everything is “more suspect, because the more you have, the more you’ve got to lose”, and a man who was an inch away from being murdered by the usual suspects “has reached an agreement with a powerful faction of the usual suspects.” You are a usually very sharp observer, but you might be having an off day.
Felix Krull #414242 July 18, 2024 12:46 pm -9
Alright, “whore” is technically incorrect, but “sex worker” isn’t.I admire Melania for the grit, smarts and determination that bought her a ticket out of a dilapidated Warsaw Pact country as soon as the Iron Curtain fell, and carried her all the way to the White House.But still, seeing her as FLOTUS rubs me the wrong way. Speaking as a bigoted Germanic, the first Eastern Europeans who came West after the Wall, were Slavic prostitutes and farm workers; Melania is of that generation and she doesn’t look like much of a farm worker to me.As for the ear-business, I’m letting it all hang out and say it’s fake, pending further data – getting my hedge in before I place my bet, so to speak. That way, I’ll look awfully clever if I’m right, and if I’m not, we can just forget I ever said it.
DLS #414248 July 18, 2024 1:06 pm 4
My bar on first ladies is whether they are pleasant to look at on my TV, or do I lunge for the remote. I’ll give you Jackie, but since then, which FLOTUS rubs you the right way: Jill, Michelle, Laura, Hillary, Barbara, Nancy, Rosalynn, Betty, Pat or Lady Bird?
Felix Krull #414252 July 18, 2024 1:15 pm 3
Jill, Michelle, Laura, Hillary, Barbara, Nancy, Rosalynn, Betty, Pat or Lady Bird? Very good point, although I’ve nothing against Nancy – I assume “Lady Bird” is Eleanor, because she’s pretty much the worst of the bunch.
DLS #414297 July 18, 2024 3:10 pm 4
Lady Bird was LBJ’s wife. Eleanor was FDR, before Jackie. She was awful, but it’s hard to rank anyone worse than Hillary. Actually, Laura Bush was fine, other than having the terrible judgement to marry a drunk, who along with his appointee justice John Roberts (overseer of the kangaroo FISA courts), set up the modern domestic spying apparatus, and is the reason this post is being added to my NSA potential terrorist file. BTW, none of the downvotes are mine, as I enjoy your comments even when I disagree.
Felix Krull #414301 July 18, 2024 3:19 pm 4
Don’t worry about the downvotes – I have picked up a couple of stalkers in here who downvote everything I post, plus when you shit on Melania, you get what’s coming to you.
Wiffle #414319 July 18, 2024 3:57 pm 1
Yes, many modern conservatives are in love with Melania. I admire her for the same reason that you do. Clearly she intended to get out of the poverty of home and make it. She did it, with the rings on her fingers to prove it.However, one of the elite objections to Trump is that he’s low class in every way possible. His current wife, at very best, is from a class of women that we used to call gold diggers. She certainly has no problems mostly disrobing in front of cameras.She might be otherwise an honest and pleasant woman who raised her son well. Gold diggers can come to genuinely love their husbands. I hope she is all that.However, America is so degenerate right now we can’t even see that a 3rd wife with her background is not about new American royalty. It’s about very possibly Trump tripping over the very last pretty woman who might have him as husband, given his personality and previous marriages. It’s all very low status, including the 3rd marriage.Everyone is talking about Vance’s wife in part because she is a high status wife in modern America.
Felix Krull #414375 July 19, 2024 12:02 am 2
She certainly has no problems mostly disrobing in front of cameras. And no problems disrobing entirely and pose naked for lesbo canoodling in an old school fap mag. I’m not going to drop such a link on Z-man’s nice, family-friendly site, but it’s easy to find.
Robbo #414386 July 19, 2024 6:46 am 0
The masturbatory focus of conservatives has since shifted to Tulsi Gabbard. It was vomit-inducing reading all the trad cons slobbering over her just because she has a pretty face and said some ear candy.
Vinnyvette #414365 July 18, 2024 8:40 pm -1
Don’t worry about the downvotes – I have picked up a couple of stalkers in here who downvote everything I post, plus when you shit on Melania, you get what’s coming to you. Get in line newbie!
Felix Krull #414374 July 18, 2024 11:52 pm 3
I don’t know who you are, and that makes you the new guy.
TempoNick #414272 July 18, 2024 2:09 pm 0
Back in the 1970s, it was Greece that was the joke in those parts. Slovenia was fine.
Alzaebo #414339 July 18, 2024 5:09 pm 0
Ha! We are really conflicted, aren’t we? About, well, everything. That is the mark of a goodly and honest people.
Stephen Dowling Botts Decd #414119 July 18, 2024 9:34 am 9
I wrote a long, eloquent refutation of this “only indifferent to Whites” nonsense, but it was eliminated by moderation. I presume it was because I used the taboo N-word voodoo. Which only further amplifies my point that we are very much second class citizens, and indifference hasnothingto do with that. TBF I assume this was the platform muzzling my Crime Think, and not the Z Man.
Jeffrey Zoar #414136 July 18, 2024 9:48 am 3
If I know anything about how this works, your post will suddenly appear in some number of minutes or hours
Ostei Kozelskii #414266 July 18, 2024 1:55 pm 4
Tons of my posts have gone into moderation lately. I assume they all bubbled up,like belches from a tin of tainted clams,to the surface eventually, but don’t know for sure.
Wiffle #414320 July 18, 2024 3:58 pm 1
Haha!
Vinnyvette #414155 July 18, 2024 10:10 am -3
I had two post’s held in purgatory with zero naughty words. Appeared, dissapeared, re appeared with “awaiting approval.” Z says he doesn’t know what I’m talking about. Maybe he doesn’t personally moderate, but farms it out.Non the less, something stinks in Denmark.
Stephen Dowling Botts Decd #414196 July 18, 2024 11:19 am 9
I dunno, I frequently disagree with Z’s take, but it seems to me he allows pretty free reign out here on the board. Z may be wrong, but I will defend to the point of very mild inconvenience that he allows the rest of us the chance to do the same. I’m betting its a hiccup with the new commenting whatsit. Especially after my post magically re-appeared.
Vinnyvette #414366 July 18, 2024 8:43 pm -1
”Waiting for approval” message is in the code. It’s not merely a glitch.
Zulu Juliet #414211 July 18, 2024 11:49 am 1
You’re stuff is there, Botts. Pure high-octane sarcasm. Well done.
Ploppy #414246 July 18, 2024 12:55 pm 3
The old comment section would sometimes just eat my comment to the point where I was typing it in notepad first but so far I haven’t had that with the new one just a delay when I use the funny nicknames I have for Jews.
Ostei Kozelskii #414267 July 18, 2024 1:56 pm 1
I thought funny nicknames were a way to sidestep moderation.
Ostei Kozelskii #414265 July 18, 2024 1:53 pm 1
Pretty sure Krull recently dropped an N-bomb and it didn’t sink his post. Who knows what’s going on?
Sgt Pedantry #414059 July 18, 2024 8:32 am 9
I do not know about “reformist elements” but someone inside the Hoover Building is trying to signal to the House of Trump and the rest of the inner party by arresting Max Boot’s wife.
Jack Dobson #414070 July 18, 2024 8:55 am 8
Yep. And the absolutely repellent Neocons make fine sacrificial lambs. The retarded and equally despicable Never Trumpers also will be thrown into the burning pit to make peace. My God these people are stupid.
Arthur Metcalf #414098 July 18, 2024 9:14 am 8
Look (as all the Washington pundits say) if we can’t recognize that this Thing is wrapping up right now, then what’s to talk about? Z Man, you’re taking a long-view here, yes? As in, there will come a time when it’s transactionally-more self-interested to ignore American Zionist concerns, and at that time, pragmatic politicians (not necessarily Trump, because this isn’t happening anytime soon) will shift their policy preferences.I’m thinking we really don’t have that kind of timeline based on the events of the past ten years and particularly the last week. And Biden’s just getting started after the RNC wraps up.It’s not normalcy bias, but…I really don’t see this holding together after the election. Once it settles in on the Trump Crowd that his sun is setting soon, they will realize that the Boomers are going, and it’s their responsibility now. White Americans do not want to do the work to save what’s left of their heritage. Trump is theirParade MagazineElvis plate on the wall. What happens when they can’t order it any longer?It’s what they used to call a “Come To Jesus Moment,” but in our time, it’s going to be a “Run From Jesus Moment.” I’m really not sanguine about post-November, honestly. I see bills ceasing to be paid and a lot of social unrest appearing in venues where it’s previously mostly been verboten, such as the workplace and (again, mostly) the roadways.
Nick Notes Mugshot #414239 July 18, 2024 12:40 pm 7
I imagine Rob Reiner will soon be remaking The Boys from Brazil with Trump clones instead of Hitler ones.
Ostei Kozelskii #414268 July 18, 2024 1:58 pm 4
The Proud Boys from Brazil: Annudah Shoah, and This Time It’s Personal
Stephen Dowling Botts Decd #414317 July 18, 2024 3:55 pm 3
Final Tap, the mockumentary on the Trump assassination by Marty DiBergi
Vinnyvette #414063 July 18, 2024 8:40 am 7
Symbolically, a second Trump presidency at least puts the foreign and domestic policies you reference in your article Z “on the table.” Trump will be on the bully pulpit preaching, and the MSM and D’s will be screeching. Although you are correct that the swamp will do whatever they can to thwart all of Trump’s efforts, the normies being exposed to these policies on the regular due to the daily battle can’t hurt or make anything worse. Trump putting these recycled paleocon policies back into public discourse in 2015, did open a lot of eyes, and create a lot of energy in the right direction. Especially with the juxtaposition between Trump’s first term vs the last 3 1/2 years of Biden. People are more pissed off right now than I can remember in my entire life time.That’s how Trump won the first time. Trump may not save America, but at least he has exposed what the battle lines are, and increased the speed and intensity of either a secessionist movement or civil war. Either of those scenario’s brings about the end of the gridlock on power of the D.C. cabal and a breakdown of the current system. Either in my book is a win.God damn it all, if all we’ve got is bread and circus’s does it get any better than Trump vs the evil empire?
Tars Tarkas #414174 July 18, 2024 10:38 am 6
Vance is even less scary to the political class than Trump ought to be. Even if Trump wins and gets into office without the system taking him out, he will mostly govern like a run of the mill Republican. Anything he does that they don’t like they can block easily or at worst, undo it in 2029.Better yet, there hasn’t been an official recession since 2009, other than 2 extremely short minor 1 quarter slowdowns. We’ve printed at least 15 trillion Dollars since then. If the era of cheap money implodes under Trump, well, just blame Trump and not only is he no longer a threat, but “maga” is also no longer a threat and will be discredited.
Major Hoople #414138 July 18, 2024 9:48 am 6
Akshully, I think in the penultimate paragraph you meant “the usual suspects are not terribly smart but they…”
sentry #414061 July 18, 2024 8:38 am 6
“The odds of Trump winning are not good…” Why would globo-homo actors attempt an assassination if Trump’s odds of winning are not good? Why bother? “…despite all of the good things breaking his way.” I doubt Trump is so lucky, CNN forgot how to do propaganda. https://x.com/CollinRugg/status/1813557975761773006?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1813557975761773006%7Ctwgr%5E6cf16a693cfe7934becb0200ac6042fb9f62102b%7Ctwcon%5Es1_&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.infowars.com%2F
Vinnyvette #414095 July 18, 2024 9:12 am 9
Agree. The Trump shooter was no mythical lone wolf, he’s a copy and paste Lee Harvey Oswald patsy without the gravita’s and experience. If the swamp has the election fix in hand, not only did they not need to try and take him out, every failed attempt to take Trump out politically and now literally has backfired and only benefited Trump. The Swamp is running scared.
Tarl Cabot #414127 July 18, 2024 9:38 am 11
At the moment, Trump is probably outside theplausiblemargin of fraud in a race against Biden, but there are other factors in play. A foreign crisis, economic distress, “natural” disasters, “terrorism” or even another assassination attempt could reset the board. If Biden withdraws, the entry of a new Democratic candidate could re-energize the party. However, it is difficult to imagine younger Democrats like Newsom, Whitmer or Shapiro wasting their shot by running against a presumably invincible Trump. I will merely note, as have others, that the Blood Countess of Chappaqua has been very quiet of late. Too quiet.
Jeffrey Zoar #414251 July 18, 2024 1:13 pm 0
No doubt H would take the job if it was available to her, but I find it hard to believe that The Precious would pressure Joe to step down on her behalf. Perhaps on behalf of some other “woman.”
JaG #414054 July 18, 2024 8:19 am 6
This is what I enjoy, all of the armchair pundits proclaiming that this is it. It’s not, this is the beginning. We’ll never see Emperor Trump. It’s gonna be someone else, and it’s gonna crazy. I await the “… strange new respect for Donald Trump…” pieces. Please practice second order thinking.
Vinnyvette #414055 July 18, 2024 8:25 am 5
The Z has been doing “strange new respect for Donald Trump” pieces on the regular.
Forever Templar #414065 July 18, 2024 8:43 am 8
Noticed the slight shilling going on, too. He’s probably got some under-the-table money coming in from a Trump-related entity. It’s not a negative accusation, per say, I merely suspect a lot of mature, non-insane political voices who’ve been cast into the void might be being courted somewhat. Sailor got brought back after all.
Citizen of a Silly Country #414075 July 18, 2024 8:58 am 13
Sailer rise seemed to coincide with Oct. 7 and the college protests. I’d suspect that the tribe decided that if they’re going to be forced to be on Team Whitey, they should push colorblind civic nationalism rather identity politics.
Chet Rollins #414084 July 18, 2024 9:02 am 5
God himself reaching out and saving a man’s life will do that.
Stephen Dowling Botts Decd #414123 July 18, 2024 9:36 am 14
Which god? Because they were praying to Wahegru at the RNC.
DLS #414193 July 18, 2024 11:06 am 7
The one true God, who is not responsible for RNC stupidity.
Alzaebo #414342 July 18, 2024 5:44 pm 3
Say what you will, but the blacks can be uncannily straightforward. A black man said the power of prayer is what turned Trump’s head at that crucial millisecond. The prayer of millions altered reality; an unscripted glance, 1/20 of a second, and we would’ve been in a different world right now. I accept this as true, it accords with all I’ve found. We are in a spiritual battle of dueling realities and different gods. To describe such as this hand or that hand at work is only a semantic difference. ‘Tis the Hand that turned that man’s head.
Bloated Boomer #414376 July 19, 2024 12:50 am 1
A black man also said AMERIGUH isn’t racist. Over and over and over again. They truly are our greatest gifts from The Almighty.
Marko #414097 July 18, 2024 9:12 am 25
Z has mentioned in the past that Trump has top-tier political instincts (which is correct) and that he supports the people who expose the corruption of and do maximal damage to the current Regime. If some Democrat were doing this, like a better version of Tulsi Gabbard or RFK Jr, I think Z and many of us would be “respecting” him or her too. It doesn’t matter if the Trump-Vance ticket disappoints you. What matters is the people that want to kill you also want to kill them. That should blessedly focus our efforts.
Mike #414257 July 18, 2024 1:40 pm 2
Comment of the day, whinging about Trump/Vance is rejecting the best we can do for now while waiting for perfection. I root for everyone who is a threat to the status quo. With enough small victories you can win the war.
zummliller #414344 July 18, 2024 6:03 pm 5
”If Evangelicals stop worshiping Jewish people, Trump will be less enthusiastic for Israel, because Israel stops being important domestically.”This is an invaluable word of warning & advice, Trump or otherwise. Thewholeof the worshiping body of Jesus Christ (not just evangelicals!) needs to ‘de-gnositcize’ eschatology and keep it in the proper Biblical & historical context . The Jews of Christ’s time zone are not the Jews represented today.
Alzaebo #414281 July 18, 2024 2:31 pm 5
It all goes back to counterfeit assignats.The French Revolution was…a real estate scam.In order to break the Catholic heart of the Holy Roman Empire, which was France, the same banking interest that financed England’s first Parliament promoted the confiscation of Church properties in France.The Terror wasn’t to scare the peasants. It was to scare the aristocrats into leaving, and leaving their properties behind as well.An unlimited supply of counterfeit paper assignats then bought up those Church and landry properties at a steep wartime discount; they were resold for hard gold, and that gold ended up in the autonomous City of London and some say the Vatican as well.One can trace this path through the Bank of England created in 1694, the Bank of North America created in 1781, and the FED created in 1913…including even the industrialists’ financing of both Lenin and Small Moustache Man.Ultimately we come to today’s scaffold of “the ‘City of London’ as the enemy’s secular HQ and financial power arm of the enemy…(Masonic) DC and the MIC are the enforcers, and The Vatican is the religious arm.”PR people like Rosseau and Sartre, religious movements, political agents, etc. are part and parcel of the millenia long Culture War against the Aryans that results in empire, the building up of Horses to ride and the beatings or death of them.Is the chicken/egg question of cycles inherent or emergent in the structure; for instance, are the Protestant movements more a cause, or a result, of Gutenberg’s printing press?I say parasites, or empire, are both inherent and emergent in the structure.How then to accomodate this? Stoicism, prediction, and preparation for reaction?Would that I had the moral comfort of rightness to fortify my striving.———————————The assignat scam -blog starts here:https://gamousseau.wordpress.com/2012/03/23/the-assignat-scam/A series of short Zman length vignettes from a defunct work; a relatively quick read, I myself couldn’t put down the sordid history behind our history. It starts with the Revolution to the present.
George #414154 July 18, 2024 10:07 am 5
Semiconductor manufacturing went to Taiwan because the US didn’t want it anymore. It was more toxic than gold mining. Taiwan, like many islands in such situations, didn’t care.
TempoNick #414077 July 18, 2024 9:00 am 5
“The reason this terrifies official Washington is that all of their projects and therebefore their reason to exist rest on the assertion that overseas concerns are paramount because they serve the interest of the empire. If politics moves to a debate about what is and what is not good for the American people, suddenly these schemes not only stop making sense, but they also sound un-American. Project Ukraine, for example, is exactly what Washington warned about in his farewell address.” Yep.
WCiv911 #414120 July 18, 2024 9:35 am 4
The notion often expressed here that elections don’t matter seems to conflict with the argument that MAGA has the hopeful potential to prevent or at least impede America’s march towards doomsday.
Vinnyvette #414153 July 18, 2024 10:06 am 0
Election’s don’t matter is akin to Trump derangement syndrome.Of course they matter. When the swamp gets a politico friendly to their agenda. It makes things easier for them. With a guy like Trump they have to work overtime.
Jeffrey Zoar #414191 July 18, 2024 11:01 am 7
You could make a case that elections matter for some things, but I’ve never seen them matter for support of Our Greatest Ally.
Jeffrey Zoar #414180 July 18, 2024 10:44 am 2
Pardon me for being optimistic, but I notice that America First or MAGA has done a mostly exemplary job these last few years (J6 aside) of refusing(either through discretion or sloth)to take the bait and denying the Borg the casus belli it seeks. As this has gone on, the Borg is slowly becoming infected/corrupted by America First/MAGA to some degree, which wouldn’t have been possible if bait had been taken. Yet as AF/MAGA corrupts the Borg, simultaneously the Borg corrupts it. This has led to more, but certainly not all or close to all, of AF/MAGA’s interests being represented by the Borg, with more to come. Some percentage of a loaf, but it never will be the whole thing, as too much of the “country” is too far gone. Perhaps in this fashion the “republic” can stagger on for a while without any major calamity that threatens us all.
Alzaebo #414345 July 18, 2024 6:10 pm -1
You know, that’s like a lake becoming a marsh, becoming a peat bog, becoming a meadow. I especially like “…as AF/MAGA corrupts the Borg, simultaneously the Borg corrupts it.”
Vegetius #414243 July 18, 2024 12:48 pm 1
Despite being a generally one-note accelerationist, I am much more sanguine about Trump’s chances — so long as he has additional security watching his security’s security. I have also persuaded myself that Trump cannot make worse appointments than he did last time. Especially if Don Jr has a hand in their vetting. A second Trump administration may look more like a clan affair than anything we have yet seen. But to what use would such an organization be put? They seem to be thinking long-term, but what are they thinking?
Spingerah #414217 July 18, 2024 11:53 am 1
Yes absolutely much worse, for every one.It would behoove them to understand.
clrariz #414630 July 20, 2024 6:50 pm 0
If 1/2 of 1% of Americans would understand our Constitution and the plan to return to it viahttps://tacticalcivics.com, we would be happier. Check it out.
Templar #414469 July 19, 2024 11:35 am 0
Trump feels no moral or emotional commitment to Taiwan. Trump also seems to (rightly) see China as the most pressing threat on the horizon, though.
Stephanie #414449 July 19, 2024 10:55 am 0
So true about the ‘cosmopolitan’ politicians. That makes me think of the AOC and Nadler press conference to address the huge influx of illegal immigrants coming into the city and they thought they would calm the people’s concerns about it by telling them all the things they were going to do for the immigrants! They didn’t address their own constituency that they were standing in front of once. It was a sight to behold, and they got shouted down and out of their own press conference, deservedly.
Hun #414378 July 19, 2024 3:27 am 0
Here is an interesting article about Vance:https://www.unz.com/article/hillbilly-agent/
King Kong #414361 July 18, 2024 8:10 pm 0
The dynamic between empires and their subjugated nations is the same as between nations and the subjugated natural environments within their bounds: parasite and host
Chmi #414336 July 18, 2024 4:53 pm 0
Only who knows the real meaning, as well as origins, of “America first” can appreciate why rashes show up on the skin of the usual suspects soon as they hear or read of it. Since they see America as a means to certain ends, it’s very understandable.
Hun #414324 July 18, 2024 4:13 pm 0
How many days until Biden is removed from the race? Any guesses?He is in isolation right now. Perfect opportunity to craft a narrative where Biden does some thinking and decides to exit the race.
Paintersforms #414099 July 18, 2024 9:15 am 0
If Hamilton hadn’t been an ambitious immigrant and a stock jobber, or if Jefferson hadn’t been a radical slave owner. Instead, we got two walking contradictions who didn’t like each other and fought, setting up the political dynamic since. What this country has always needed is some combination of their virtues.
Vegetius #414359 July 18, 2024 8:00 pm -1
NateS over at 588 has Trump two points behind Biden in New Jersey.
Paintersforms #414341 July 18, 2024 5:36 pm -1
OT re: Crooks’ motivations, from NYT FWIW. “But in the aftermath, when the F.B.I. was able to finally access Mr. Crooks’s cellphones and other electronic devices, agents could see that he had searched for images of Mr. Trump as well as President Biden, Attorney General Merrick B. Garland and even F.B.I. Director Christopher A. Wray. Mr. Crooks also typed in “major depressive disorder” and searched for dates and places for appearances for both Mr. Biden and Mr. Trump.” https://archive.is/GARXw
Vinnyvette #414082 July 18, 2024 9:02 am -2
Z filtering comments ala Sailer?Tsk… tsk… tsk…
thezman #414092 July 18, 2024 9:10 am 4
What are you talking about?
Vinnyvette #414105 July 18, 2024 9:24 am -1
I have a comment “waiting for approval.”
TempoNick #414145 July 18, 2024 9:57 am 1
Maybe that’s the way the board software runs. Sometimes you can set the filters to slow people down so they don’t hog the board. I’m guilty of that sometimes myself when I’m on a roll. Everyone now and then, I get one that gets bumped into the approval queue. I have no idea what it is I do–haven’t figured the pattern out yet and I’m usually good at that. The other day I typed, “hëad wrāp” and “SSDeeDee”. I wonder if that’s what threw me into the queue.
Vinnyvette #414367 July 18, 2024 8:53 pm 1
That seems plausible, just haven’t seen it since Z implemented the new system.
Felix Krull #414151 July 18, 2024 10:04 am 11
Happens all the time. The modbot is fairly tolerant, but too much spicy language and too frequent posting triggers it.
Mike #414262 July 18, 2024 1:46 pm 0
I criticized Lincoln up in the comments and it went to moderation. I blame the Yankee moderator.


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