False Choices

The false dilemma is an informal fallacy which is based on the false premise that there are only two options in a particular situation. The fallacy is not in the logic, as with other fallacies, but in the premise. It is a useful rhetorical trick, so it turns up in political debates and propaganda. “We must do X or Y will happen” with Y being something everyone assumes to be bad. The idea is to limit the choices to one that is preferred and one that no one would willingly choose.

It is such a highly effective rhetorical strategy that what we call conservatism rests on a foundation of false choices. No matter what the left proposes, the right opposes by offering an option that is doomed to fail versus what the left proposes. A good example was the homosexual marriage debate. The left proposed redefining marriage to mean sharing rent and a bed. Instead of rejecting this out of hand, the right proposes civil unions, thus leaving us with two degenerate options.

We are seeing this again with the war over the antiwhite pogroms labeled Diversity, Equity, and Inclusion. It is not an accident that the acronym DEI could easily be DIE, as the people behind this do not hide their intensions. When they say they want to eliminate whiteness, there is only one way this can happen. If one were to call for eliminating Jewishness, you get compared to Hitler. Therefore, logic dictates that when they say they want to eliminate whiteness, they mean white people.

Under normal circumstance, when someone makes a credible threat on your life, the response is not to offer a compromise or pretend the threat is not real, but that is exactly what conservatives are doing in the face of these pogroms. Christopher Rufo says the only option to these antiwhite pogroms is for white people to embrace a colorblind morality. In other words, white people should put all their energy into a fantasy program rather than defend themselves.

The vision of a colorblind society may be appealing, but the fact that it does not exist and has never existed is called a clue. Whites have displayed some capacity to live under such a regime, but nonwhites clearly cannot exist this way. Outside of European lands, the skins game is the rule. We will never see non-European societies fling open their doors and invite the world into their lands. As we see every day, when these people enter European lands, they bring the skins game with them.

What Rufu is offering up is a false choice. You can put all your energy into this fantasy of a colorblind, multi-racial, multi-ethnic society or you can succumb to the antiwhite pogroms that are raging right now. The point of framing it this way is to eliminate other options, like whites joining the skins game. Not only does this framing sideline other more reasonable options, but it also subtly endorses the moral claim by the left that there is something immoral about whiteness.

Another example is this Elon Musk post in which he says, “Discrimination on the basis of anything other than merit is wrong.” The natural response should be, “who says?” but that is not what you see in the replies. Instead, everyone accepts the false choice that you can either allow nonwhites to play the skins game unopposed or you dream of a day when no one plays the skins game. Again, whites joining in on the skins game and maybe winning at it is off the table.

As an aside, his comment should make everyone’s skin crawl. He is saying that having personal preferences is immoral. Since all humans have tastes and preferences, a feature that makes up a large part of our nature, he is hoping to anathematize most of what makes us human. For Musk, the ideal human is a moist robot. This is the thinking that lies behind the culture war. With the right amount of force, people can be re-coded into what society needs or simply eliminated from the population.

Regardless, the point of his post is to foreclose the parsimonious option which is to let people discriminate for any reason they like. Free association was the foundation of America into the last century. The settlers to the New World literally acted on their belief that people should live where they want and with whom they want, which is why they got on boats and came to the wilderness. The immigrants of the 19th and 20th century acted on the same premise.

Of course, the ultimate false choice, the very heart of American conservatism, is the assertion that they cannot use the same tactics as their opponent or exact revenge when they have power, because that would make them as bad as the left. In other words, the choice presented as conservatism is to adhere to a set of rules that guarantee failure or succumb to some abstract conception of moral turpitude that is somehow worse than losing.

In the end, the culture war is not a clash of visions, but rather a struggle among white people about how best to avoid the fight. The winning side in this fight has always relied on some form of the false choice in order to prevent engaging the people called the left in the culture war. This means the path to victory in this civilizational struggle starts with overthrowing conservatism and its spiderweb of false choices. In its place is a new form of identity politics to counter the current identity politics.


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john smyth #386594 January 18, 2024 9:42 pm 0
Mao also knew how to add . . . an atomic war might kill 300 million Chinese but China would remain the most populous on earth.https://www.upi.com/Archives/1964/10/17/Maos-theory-on-atomic-bomb-They-cant-kill-us-all/1653831424805/
Major Hoople #386282 January 17, 2024 2:49 pm 0
What Rufo is arguing for is a mulatto society, which he thinks will be the end of “racism.” I would argue that it would be more stratified than ever, for a mulatto society is highly discriminatory. Take a look at Brazil where the depth of one’s color really matters. Search for the paper bag test” wherein blacks show just how accepting they are …
Cruciform #386338 January 17, 2024 6:42 pm 0
I doubt anyone here is accusing Dondi of being a real human being. Something is waaaay off about him, besides being gae and a liar and shill.
Intelligent Dasein #386259 January 17, 2024 1:37 pm 0
It is not possible for whites to play “the skins game.” The skins game is a grift that only exists within the context of a larger culture (somewhat equivocally designated “white”) that still generally believes in erring on the side of generosity and tolerance when dealing with those who, for whatever reason, are considered cultural outsiders. If whites tried to act the way that minorities act within historically white societies, there would be no one for them to petition. There is no culture “above whiteness” for whites to make their appeal to, and no one to supply the gibs that whites would demand. Should that ever happen, the parasites would have killed the host.Similarly, it is not true that minorities always stick together. Black people, for example, are not unreservedly partial to other blacks. Minorities only stick together within the context of that grift that takes place within the larger society (i.e. the skins game) which is itself a somewhat artificial and contrived political grouping. Outside of that context, blacks have no such internal loyalty. The victims of black violence are overwhelmingly other black people, not white people.If you want to end the grift, the correct strategy is to alter the incentive structure so that minorities can no longer profit off the public weal by forming these ersatz interest groups and playing identity politics. It means stopping the gibs. Note that this is not at all the same as saying that “discrimination should be based on merit” like Elon Musk. Mine is a negative, not a positive, proposal. Just stop the gibs, and the identity politics charade falls apart on its own.The rules that govern the public space should not entitle any class of citizens to extract rents at the expense of other classes. This is most likely what normal people mean when they say things like “all men are created equal,” but lack the vocabulary to express clearly. To that extent they are correct, so we should assume good intentions and not ridicule them for that belief.
Compsci #386286 January 17, 2024 3:00 pm 0
Oh gosh, how naive and wrong. The gibs as you put it do not derive from the people in a primary sense, but from politicians who cater to their greed. The gibs are developed through the current political process to buy votes.and political contributions. I would also say that the biggest beneficiary of “gibs” are not the people per se but large corporations and oligarchs. The “gibs” that finally reach the masses are so much table scraps.So really what needs to be spoken about is a change to the current political situation. But at that point we come full circle to the question of “Can a corrupt political process repair itself?” And the answer is always the same, “No, the political process must be overthrown and replaced.”As to the non-White races not being ethnocentric—except for the gibs, no studies show this and plenty of examples abound to demonstrate differently. Blacks are a poor example for any human behavior, but rarely if ever do you hear one, no matter how rich and successful not decry how racist America is and then relate their sob story about perceived discrimination in their lives. See any Oprah interview.
Mycale #386292 January 17, 2024 3:13 pm 0
The system is here and has been for sixty years. Despite decades of conservatives whining along the same lines that you are (it’s not fair, it’s unjust, it retards bad behavior and incompetence), it’s only gotten stronger. Do you need another six decades to realize that strategy does not work? Yea, sure, “the rules that govern the public space should not entitle any class or citizens to extract rents at the expense of other classes” – sounds great. I agree. Problem is, the rules DO entitle that, what now? Conservatives have no answer, which is how Whites became 2nd class citizens in their own countries. The only way to reverse that is for Whites to start extracting rents at the expense of other classes too – period.
Compsci #386312 January 17, 2024 3:45 pm 0
“ Conservatives have no answer, which is how Whites became 2nd class citizens in their own countries. The only way to reverse that is for Whites to start extracting rents at the expense of other classes too – period.” Exactly. We allow others (non-White minorities) to use our virtues against us. These minorities have set the “rules of engagement”, not us—so follow them unashamedly. Their game, their rules.! Leave your virtues at the area door, enter, win, then retrieve your virtues when you leave. As 3g4me has said, those virtues are for you and yours—not them.
Citizen of a Silly Country #386318 January 17, 2024 4:02 pm 0
Or, you know, we could stand up for ourselves and stop being everyone’s bitch. Discrimination is fine. I discriminate every day to the benefit of my children. Whites (or the various white tribes) should do the same with our extended families. I don’t give two shits what other races do. If they want to be morons like whites and not favor their own people, well, that’s fine. Whites should create our own communities and guard them well.
RealityRules #386340 January 17, 2024 7:14 pm 0
Uh, blacks had the system that removed the incentives. It was called America before the Civil Rights Act and The Great Society. Their entire project since then is built around destroying those incentives and creating a patronage and handout network. They will do anything to perpetuate and deepen it. This includes using absolute criminal scum like Martin, Brown and Floyd as martyrs if that is what it takes.
Tired Citizen #386357 January 17, 2024 9:45 pm 0
“Black people, for example, are not unreservedly partial to other blacks. Minorities only stick together within the context of that grift that takes place within the larger society (i.e. the skins game) which is itself a somewhat artificial and contrived political grouping”. You lost me here. You’d be far fetched to write something more ridiculous than this. Apparently you missed the election of Barack Obama, the acquittal of OJ, and the overdose of St. Floyd, just to name a few.
fakeemail #386258 January 17, 2024 1:36 pm 0
“Battle not with monsters, lest ye become a monster, and if you gaze into the abyss, the abyss gazes also into you.” Never agreed with this. I understood it as poetry, but not as a practicality. If the monsters are not battled BY ANY MEANS NECESSARY, they shall win.
Hemid #386330 January 17, 2024 5:03 pm 0
It’s a warning against becoming womanly. It’s from a book, not a fortune cookie.
Bwana Simba #386349 January 17, 2024 8:25 pm 0
Nietzsche was wrong. Hell, every damn philosopher from the Enlightenment onwards was wrong. We are not all created equal.
Hmic #386350 January 17, 2024 8:29 pm 0
I think he referred to the monsters (as well as abyss) interior to one’s psyche (or soul). He would doubtless have subscribed his race playing the skins game.
Whiskey #386257 January 17, 2024 1:36 pm 0
The false choice was a luxury item of the “end of history” when China had not yet risen and Russia was a shambles, and the Third World had no counter for the US Navy. None of those are true now.The US Navy cannot crush the Houthis who in turn can shut down the Suez Canal quite effectively. The huge inflationary spiral of tankers having to transit around Africa is just now being felt. Cheap, massively available drones and such are something the US Navy has no answer for, at least near-shore.The US cannot crush Russia in Ukraine. All that has happened is to put Russia on a full war footing, generate more patriotism inside Russia, and eliminate bad Russian generals and internal opposition, teach Russian forces how to fight effectively in the era of ultra cheap and mass scale drones.The US is looking at soon, China invading, conquering Taiwan and pushing the US Navy by sinking several carrier groups back east to Hawaii at least and possibly to the West Coast only. Not only does the US Navy have no counter to near-shore drone swarms as show in Yemen, it can only produce drag queens not fighting sailors and admirals.US and Western air travel is now collapsing, predictably, as DEI policies shut down even Blinken’s 737 jetliner.The internal war against White people, to shore up the coalition of the Ascendant (Alphabet+, (((people))), muslims, diverse etc) by a mutual enemy to hate and take stuff from: taxes, jobs, etc. runs straight up against the war against Russia and China (we are currently in the “soft” N-generation phase). The Rulers and Elites will have to choose: continue the War on White people or choose the War on rival great powers. They cannot do both and if they choose the internal enemy they will be supplanted by what amounts to the retarded version of Philip K. Dick’s “Man in the High Castle” with Russia and China running North America.
RealityRules #386260 January 17, 2024 1:38 pm 0
Whiskey for the win today. Great comment.
Mr. Burns #386275 January 17, 2024 2:25 pm 0
Oh dear! Oh me oh my! I would gladly fight on behalf of our Jewish masters if only they would toss us White unworthies a mere crumb from their table! God bless us, every one!
Jeffrey Zoar #386283 January 17, 2024 2:53 pm 0
This is a good illustration that that ship already sailed, and fighting the internal enemy is the only feasible choice they have left.
Stranger in a Strange Land #386303 January 17, 2024 3:28 pm 0
Whiskey: ref US Navy & Suez CanalContainer-ship arrivals in the Gulf of Aden were at their lowest level on record last week, down 90% from the 2023 average…Bulk carrier arrivals in the Gulf of Aden were in line with historical averages, but the moving average of tanker transits had fallen to 14 / day as this week – the lowest level since May 2022 and down from an average of 22 per day a month ago.All that, combined with low water levels (whether due natural, or ‘climate change’ causes) for Panama Canal transits is a two-fer that are going to screw supply chains – again (to say nothing of whatever the effects are on shipping in the Black Sea).entering the FUBAR zone
Left Coast Inmate #386327 January 17, 2024 4:32 pm 0
It’s very easy for the US Military to steam roll the Houthis, they just choose not to take the necessary measures that would end this. You simply need to ruthlessly smash them and the civilian infrastructure, but they are unwilling to rid the world of these creatures for moral reasons.
pantoufle #386335 January 17, 2024 5:54 pm 0
Idiot. You can bomb sand and rocks forever. That is the pretty much the Houthi “infrastructure”. The only way to subdue these people is boots on the ground. And they have plenty of experience at the kind of fighting as well. But perhaps if the USSA can draft an armchair general such as yourself, you can show they way. Hope you are good at leading trannies and Central Americans and making do with less. (You no doubt have been too busy formulating strategy to realize there is a recruitment and material crisis in your military.)
Left Coast Inmate #386337 January 17, 2024 6:17 pm 0
Again, too many people in these circles fall into the trap of assuming the Western regime is entirely incompetent because certain things don’t work so well (like inflation or crime). They could absolutely kill or displace 95+% of that part of Yemen by intentionally bombing of civilians and infrastructure until Yemeni culture and Islam ceases to exist there without putting boots on the ground. Furthermore, warfare is increasingly becoming automated with fewer people needed to pull physical triggers. They’re simply unwilling to exterminate these people.
Jeffrey Zoar #386356 January 17, 2024 9:40 pm 0
There’s an ammo problem. If they carpet bombed Yemen they wouldn’t have anything left for Ukraine and Israel. And who knows what else that is on the horizon.
Moran ya Simba #386256 January 17, 2024 1:35 pm 0
This describes two sides, one of which sees the other as an enemy to be extirpated. The other sees a “right honorable opponent”. An ax murderer in a cage with a butler, how’s that going to end?
Steve #386289 January 17, 2024 3:10 pm 0
Like a Monty Python skit.
RealityRules #386253 January 17, 2024 1:31 pm 0
Brilliant!What is important to Conservatives is to preserve a notion, or an ideal not a people. They really want to preserve meritocracy. That is a worthy goal. They do not understand that the only people who play that game the way they want it played are historically and are now, people of European ancestry – white people.The other thing they want to preserve is a system where the government does not use coercion. You could see a system where the force of the government was changed to being used to enforce what amounts to white dispossession via the Civil Rights Regime, to being used to enFORCE a meritocracy. Then you return to the who question. Whoever is in charge of the enFORCEment will define meritocracy.They will not abandon meritocracy, they will not abandon the multi-racial society experiment, they will not abandon a government that does not use force. In doing so, they have abandoned the battle field and there is no war. It was a rout.Merit works for Musk because he is not handing out goodies. He is paying people. Everything else is in this society is some form of zero sum goody that someone hands out. So, who will force that it remains on merit? In other words, Amy Wax has spelled it out very clearly. In a meritocracy, you will have very few blacks and a few more hispanics in any positions that require high cognitive abilities and a strong work ethic (propensity to forego instant gratification). Thus, in this society, which we had before the ’50s, when blacks get pissed off you have to be willing and able to put them down.Hispanics do have a higher distribution of people who work hard and they are entering trades and have a larger cohort who would be perfectly happy with finding their place. They would probably also wholly support an iron hand in dealing with their criminal element – which the blacks not only don’t do, they actively promote lawlessness for their criminal element.Alternatively, what White Nationalism offers, is peaceful separation so you then could reconstitute the society that Rufo and Musk want. It is on these terms that Musk can and must be persuaded to operate. You will either have to put down people who are unhappy with the results of meritocracy, and use whatever force is necessary, or live with riots. Alternatively, we can peacefully separate. Blacks can build Wakanda and whites who want to help them can voluntarily give them their time and money to do so.The European people and their project can then resume its destiny and stop the panels from flying off and nosedives straight into the ocean from happening.I do believe Musk is open to an honest conversation and proposal. We should consider making it to him. Perhaps if we look at this the right way it isn’t White Nationalism, but National Nationalism/Destiny. Blacks clearly want to control their own destiny. Give them some territory to do it in. Does that one step eliminate DIE altogether? It will reduce it. If there is more to be done, look at which other group is agitating and repeat peaceful separation.It is time to put this in front of the right eyes in the right way. In the meantime, conservatism is bleeding out on a battlefield having dreaming its life’s final dream – that it is still in the fight.
Moran ya Simba #386261 January 17, 2024 1:38 pm 0
“the conservative case for giving your child’s college funds to the highest scoring kid in your street”. That is what they’re doing on the macro level
Ploppy #386339 January 17, 2024 7:11 pm 0
Correction: give your child’s college funds to the Chinese or Indian kid in your street who does the best job of cheating on the SAT.
RealityRules #386343 January 17, 2024 7:30 pm 0
Come on! They are not cheating. They are smart and they are diligent and they are studying their ass off to get high scores. They are getting those scores legitimately. Should they be here replacing our elite and displacing our European and American culture which they don’t care the first thing about as a rule? No. But let’s not be dishonest and claim they are all cheaters. We’ve got to face reality and compete.
Ploppy #386523 January 18, 2024 2:34 pm 0
My experience in academia was that the Pajeets and Chinks only cared about getting the credential or grade and had zero interest in actually learning the material.If there was a way to cheat or get an A without actually working or learning anything they were all over it. One even directly asked me to give him my answers to the final for a course I’d taken the previous semester that he was presently taking, as if I would be stupid enough to let him turn in a verbatim copy of my work that the professor would easily detect.Part of the European culture they don’t care about is honesty, and the way we compete with these parasites is to kick them out of our societies and put them back in the feces-smeared shithole countries they slithered out of.
Ploppy #386525 January 18, 2024 2:35 pm 0
No they aren’t.
fakeemail #386262 January 17, 2024 1:41 pm 0
“They really want to preserve meritocracy. That is a worthy goal.” Don’t agree with this. You preserve and promote and BETTER your own because they are your own. You don’t put strangers above them because they’re supposedly more meritorious.
Citizen of a Silly Country #386319 January 17, 2024 4:03 pm 0
Yep. We want to preserve meritocracy within our communities. We discriminate against others. This isn’t hard folks.
Steve #386305 January 17, 2024 3:29 pm 0
I beg to differ. Blacks only want to forge their own destiny on the bodies of Whites. If you were to pitch this idea to the “leaders” of the black community and they were told in no uncertain terms that Whites would be out of the picture, the overwhelming majority of blacks would loose their minds.When the idea of reparations first got a serious look and various plans were being bounced around, there was one thing that the black community insisted on and that was there would be NO one-time payment from White America. Reparations are to be an ongoing thing. In fact, one of the proponents specifically said that “Until whites have experienced 400 years of what we suffered, reparations will continue until the black community is satisfied.” and all of us know that that day will never come.
3g4me #386309 January 17, 2024 3:37 pm 0
RealityRules: In no way do I want a color-blind meritocracy. Whether the .01% of capable joggers or the 5% of suitable mestizos achieve an education and job and lifestyle which supposedly corresponds with their abilities is Not My Concern. Spergy theorists like Sailer, who has no loyalty to his own race, love to discuss that imaginary, color-blind ‘meritocracy’ which will just so happen to be majority White and east Asian, with a sprinkling of others to spice things up. Similar to Derbyshire’s fantasy.‘Who Says’ it’s wrong or immoral to prefer one’s own? ‘Who Says’ we must give equal opportunity to aliens who come, generally unasked and unwanted, to our shores? If the people who founded Harvard intended it to train pastors, and their eventual heirs decided it made a good upper-class finishing school, Who Says they absolutely had to allow in juice or han of supposed merit?When the argument concerns individual versus community rights and preferences, we’ve all been trained to respond “You go, girl!” when it comes to following ‘dreams,’ as opposed to what’s best for society as a whole. Yes, it probably does suck to sacrifice many of one’s hopes in life for family or community. Personally, I always had a problem with the way that issue was handled in “It’s a Wonderful Life.” George ended up sacrificing all his dreams and interests on the altars of family and community, and I suppose I ought to applaud that as a Christian. But part of me always feels that George got a raw deal, and surely there ought to be some reciprocity in others sacrificing their plans and dreams once in a while?So overall perhaps we can find a better balance between individual and community rights. Sure, acreage “x” is Mr. Jones’ property, but allowing him to sell it to a Chinese millionaire will destroy the peace and privacy of his neighborhood. It’s difficult enough to find that correct mixture between the personal and the public within a homogeneous society. But add in the ‘dreamers’ or ‘achievers’ of other races and insist that we must make a place for them?No. Just NO. There will always be a bell curve and even Whites will always have their bottom 10%. But it’s that mixture of people and interests and abilities that used to make life so pleasant and interesting. Derbyshire likes to claim the occasional non-White adds “spice” to the soup. “Who says” the White soup we used to have – the country and culture England used to have – is somehow inherently lacking without that added alien touch?Somehow, Chaucer and Shakespeare managed to write of all sorts of different and interesting characters and conditions without feeling the need to call for their nation to be upended and rent in order to introduce outsiders – on grounds of merit or spice or anything else.Keep merit – and everything else – within the race. Visit other places. Share ideas. Perhaps return with a craving for some new food you tasted abroad. Then . . Go Buy a Cookbook! If that isn’t sufficient, return to country “x” and ask to be trained in preparation of their cuisine. But no importing strangers to satisfy personal desires or tastes. We have all the cooks and singers and garbagemen and engineers we need amongst ourselves.
fakeemail #386353 January 17, 2024 8:50 pm 0
“It’s difficult enough to find that correct mixture between the personal and the public within a homogeneous society.”THIS. People, even within the same group, are naturally at odds and IN CONFLICT. Hobbes war of all against all. Conflict of man against man, between men and women, between rich and poor, between and within familes. . .the story of life is a fight for love and glory. It a miracle if a people can create a fragile peace that produces harmony and prosperity.The correct understanding of this is an incredible triumph AGAINST human nature through hard work and discipline. It is not at all to be taken as something granted and only a fool would. A fool (and psycho) would then assume that granted and say, “lets throw tons of aliens tribes into the mix also and it’ll all still be hunky dory!”
RedBeard #386355 January 17, 2024 9:07 pm 0
We have all the “lawyers” we need too. 😉
Jeffrey Zoar #386248 January 17, 2024 1:16 pm 0
The desire of (most) whites to win (or at least stalemate) the culture war at no cost or risk to themselves is the root thing here, which makes false choices seem appealing to them. And gives rise to “the wish for kings,” aka vote harder, hoping some guy on a horse will ride in to make it all ok. Position currently occupied by the blonde dyed real estate developer. As if he’s up to it. As if anybody could be.Not giving them false choices won’t give them better choices. It will just drive home the “you’re screwed” nature of the situation. Maybe it is better to whisper sweet nothings to the dying, than to terrify them with their impending doom. On the other hand it could do a lot for our collective sanity if people stopped pretending.
Jack Dodson #386250 January 17, 2024 1:20 pm 0
Great comment. I wonder if it is even possible for most people to stop pretending, though.
Moran ya Simba #386254 January 17, 2024 1:32 pm 0
First movers die. That’s the nature of this. Who wants to die?? We need organisation, not lone wolf ramboing. They say logistics wins wars. Actually not so. Logistics, in addition to coordination, communication, training, moral support (universally underrated), is what organisation does. Organisation wins wars
RealityRules #386264 January 17, 2024 1:53 pm 0
And now Jeffrey Zoar with the win today. We are all too comfortable and conflict averse. We are all going to have to in some way at some place take a stand. Our stand can be perfectly reasonable.When confronted by DIE to implement it at work a reasonable approach seems to be:‘I don’t want to get exposed to discrimination lawsuits after some Socratic questioning that clearly establishes that DIE is discriminatory – against whites and against whites exclusively. e.g. Aren’t you asking me to hire and create hiring and promotional preferences based on skin color? (It can’t be denied). You are asking me to do something illegal and I will not abdicate my fiduciary responsibility to the firm and expose it to lawsuits – leaving aside the morality of willfully instituting racial hiring preferences. I can’t do either of those no matter how well intentioned this program may be. I will hire, fire and promote based on merit.On the other side of being a victim of the pogrom is being willing to sue the hell out of the person who is anti-white and legally harms us. While the Civil Rights regime lives, we wield it as the weapon right back against those who for decades have used it to dispossess us. It sucks to be litigious, but we have to punch back and that is one obvious way.
Mow Knowname #386295 January 17, 2024 3:15 pm 0
A white, male, heterosexual, unvaxxed, Christian may sue to his hearts content, but he is not a protected class and will not receive justice.The regime is not dumb. Their tools (which includes “The Law”) are not to be used for anything but regime purposes.
Jeffrey Zoar #386301 January 17, 2024 3:21 pm 0
And there already are, and will continue to be, fewer lawyers willing to take the case. A career diminishing move, at best. Without getting into the younger generation of lawyers coming out of the law schools these days.
3g4me #386314 January 17, 2024 3:53 pm 0
I’m sorry to be contrarian today, but we don’t HAVE to be “reasonable.” There is NO moral imperative that says we MUST consider the other side in this debate. “Because it/he is ours” is all the rationale we need. In attempting to be fair or considerate, you are implicitly accepting that the other side’s desires have merit. No, they don’t – not if this is to ever again be a nation of White people.
RealityRules #386341 January 17, 2024 7:26 pm 0
You can’t make that argument until it is a homogenous ethno state. You can be unreasonable, but you will be outnumbered and cast out.In other words, I could have enemy soldiers in my bunker and take them out by tossing a grenade, but I won’t live to fight another day. What good is that?You have to be strategic. What gets us at least back to freedom of association which is not our own state but way better than this dumpster fire? You use their laws against them since they are violating them. That is the tactic. What does this do if done so that it inflicts a lot of pain. It gets you to the table and perhaps the ability to get freedom of association back by getting those powerful people to fight with you to end the Civil Rights Act.You get rid of that, then you can hire and fire who you want. We have to use Aikido principles and use our enemy’s moves against them. I am all ears for a strategy and tactics that get us what we want or at least gets us to a stronger position. Being unreasonable doesn’t have me convinced.
Sgt Pedantry #386236 January 17, 2024 12:42 pm 0
When dealing with the false choice conservatives, Stonetoss is always better than essays.
The Wild Geese Howard #386234 January 17, 2024 12:41 pm 0
In Clown World the jokes continue to write themselves as Blinken’s 737 breaks down’l, stranding him in Davos: https://www.zerohedge.com/markets/anthony-blinken-stranded-davos-after-his-boeing-737-breaks-down “If it’s Boeing, you ain’t going!” Bonus points for him ordering up an even less efficient private jet to get back to DC.
Filthie #386246 January 17, 2024 1:07 pm 0
He will become a race realist in time. Diversity will be for the dirt people and not for the Cloud People. Problem solved!
Jack Dodson #386251 January 17, 2024 1:22 pm 0
That’s the case now. It would be lit AF is someone filmed the pilots exiting all the jets that land in Davos. Hmmmm…wonder what they would have in common?
RealityRules #386265 January 17, 2024 1:56 pm 0
I love you commentary Jack Dodson. I am stepping out of line here, but we should avoid thug culture vernacular. ‘It was lit AF’ Let’s invent our own vernacular and put aside that garbage we’ve been bathing in for decades. Hmmm… God’s eyes would shine if they filmed the pilots … … at Davos. Food for thought.
Jack Dodson #386271 January 17, 2024 2:19 pm 0
Noted and agreed. Sadly, I had no clue as to the origins of “lit AF.”
Jack Boniface #386211 January 17, 2024 12:07 pm 0
Mark Dice included a clip of Joy Reid dripping with hatred against Iowa “white Christians” for voting for Trump. It’s at 3:00:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2x9fmUtXreY&ab_channel=MarkDice
David Wright #386224 January 17, 2024 12:22 pm 0
Is that a toupe on Reed or did she scalp a Scandinavian?
pyrrhus #386230 January 17, 2024 12:31 pm 0
in her dreams, she’s scalped a lot of them…Black women have a serious hatred for more attractive white women…
Ostei Kozelskii #386296 January 17, 2024 3:16 pm 0
In other words, a serious hatred for virtually all white women.
Bartleby the Scrivner #386354 January 17, 2024 8:51 pm 0
Well, that’s because most black women look like the poop emoji. You’d be angry too…..
Steve #386332 January 17, 2024 5:09 pm 0
Yes, I saw the outburst by the pathetic simian.
BigJimSportCamper #386344 January 17, 2024 7:32 pm 0
Seems she be appropriatin da white wymyns hair, yo dog.
Mr. Generic #386201 January 17, 2024 11:56 am 0
> The immigrants of the 19th and 20th century acted on the same premise. No they didn’t. The only premise immigrants have ever acted upon is the immediate abolishment of slavery and the mass importation of ever more immigrants.
JR Wirth #386214 January 17, 2024 12:12 pm 0
Aside from the fact that we’ve been importing the wrong people for years, it’s also the sheer volume. They want a billion people here in the literal sense, stacking everyone up in rabbit hutches like East Asia. Because “muh GDP” has to stay in the big leagues. Only the billion+ countries will matter. Then they’ll say “we still have plenty of open spaces.” I’m sorry, Nevada doesn’t count. And neither do the Dakotas. For the size of our country what’s amazing is how so much of the open space is some of the ugliest terrain you’ve ever seen. We only have places like the Tetons because it is so large, according to the law of averages you have to have something nice somewhere.
Evil Sandmich #386268 January 17, 2024 2:08 pm 0
There was the story from a bit ago of India trying to buy a tanker of oil with rupees (their homegrown funny-money) and finding no takers. A billion plus people and yet they can’t make an oil tanker worth of product that someone is willing to trade for.
Vinnyvette #386342 January 17, 2024 7:28 pm 0
Slavery had already been abolished BEFORE first wave immigration in the late 19th – early 20th century! First wave immigration of ppl of European, Christian heritage worked out just fine… Italians, Germans, Poles, Irish etc… Do not conflate current, 3rd world shit hole invasion with first world, European immigration. That is if you know what the hell you’re talking about.
3g4me #386347 January 17, 2024 7:57 pm 0
Vinneyvette: No, it didn’t work out “just fine.” Yes, White Christian immigrants had more natural cultural and religious affinity, but genuine “assimilation” rarely exists. What one gets – after multiple generations and intermarriage – is a synthesis. The Ellis Island immigrants changed settler America as much as it changed them.And we still have pockets of minimally assimilated Italians and others on the east coast. In researching my late mother in-law ‘s ancestors and others from the same village, I found that the first generation here generally married someone whose parents were from the same village. The second generation married people from other villages, but still Italians. Only in the third generation did the majority marry other ethnicities – and still only minimal marriages with protestant heritage Americans.There were exceptions, of course, but the melting pot was always a myth. I’m not saying the effects of those immigrants was wholly negative, but neither was their impact wholly positive or even neutral. “Caelum non animum mutant qui trans mare currunt.”
The Wild Geese Howard #386200 January 17, 2024 11:52 am 0
Wapo, the CIA’s daily rag, just posted a piece telling us not to think for ourselves because that could lead to dangerous things like insurrections!
KGB #386222 January 17, 2024 12:21 pm 0
“…dismiss anything else. We will continue to be your single source for truth.” Jacinda Ardern
pyrrhus #386231 January 17, 2024 12:33 pm 0
But especially, do NOT ever realize that your skin is your uniform, and your dreams of multi-culturalism are a lethal fantasy…
TomA #386197 January 17, 2024 11:47 am 0
As much as I favor the idea of using persuasion to awaken the slumbering sane to the clear and present dangers of our modern societal disaster, I don’t think that this option will succeed (or at the very least, has a very low probability of success). Yes, we can continue sleepwalking into the future by dosing on the false hopium of voting harder, but that is simply another repetitive misstep on the road to damnation. Nothing will change until the environment changes. Only then will the awakening be forced upon us.Bongino advocates the false binary of vote-harder or bloody civil war as the sole alternatives. That is an immoral framing of the argument. Not only are there other rational options, but perpetual vote-harder is suicide in slow motion and ultimately guarantees death of the patient. And he wants to lead the lemmings toward the cliff at double-time.I advocate for contingency planning in the event that persuasion fails and a collapse is forced upon us. What do we do when food is scarce and the round-ups begin? Do we fight and kill our neighbor because its convenient? Or do we focus on the root of the problem? Methinks the latter is the only moral course of action. Fog, focus, and finality.
Guest #386247 January 17, 2024 1:11 pm 0
Many of my neighbors are liberal, white Democrats. How should that affect my decision making in the choice you presented? I lean toward the former as the moral course of action…
3g4me #386316 January 17, 2024 3:58 pm 0
Guest: Perhaps you should seriously consider moving?
Tired Citizen #386325 January 17, 2024 4:27 pm 0
The moral choice is definitely kill your neighbor – then move.
BigJimSportCamper #386345 January 17, 2024 7:36 pm 0
Your ‘neighbors’ will rat you out in a heartbeat and feel good about it.
Boris #386196 January 17, 2024 11:46 am 0
Relevant to today’s post, you won’t see any “conservatives” making a peep about this: vdare.com/posts/year-in-the-death-of-white-america-451-underreported-black-on-white-homicides-in-2023 I know of no other site (not even Anglin’s) that compiles this astounding DAILY assault on White America. The monthly report comes out about 2-3 days either side of the 10th of the following month. This is the first year-end review I’ve seen of the carnage that continues unabated. 451. Reparations, anyone?
Eloi #386203 January 17, 2024 11:57 am 0
Maybe not compile, but newnation.com for your hate porn (as in: Articles that will rise your hatred levels)
Boris #386219 January 17, 2024 12:17 pm 0
Thanks, Eloi. I’ll check it out. Hate, properly channeled, can be a powerful and, yes, even positive force for change. If the left and their street thugs are gonna hate whitey, then I’m gonna hate them right back…. in spades. Pun intended.
Tired Citizen #386326 January 17, 2024 4:28 pm 0
None of you need to hate. I have so much pent up that it can be shared by everyone.
Ostei Kozelskii #386298 January 17, 2024 3:19 pm 0
The only reparation I want is to live in a land with no nuggras.
3g4me #386317 January 17, 2024 4:02 pm 0
Ostei: Well of course, but I must admit I can no longer tolerate subcons, han, or mestizos either. Equal opportunity exclusionary here. I think different people and cultures – in separate nations – make the world an interesting place. But there’s still “No place like home.”
JR Wirth #386186 January 17, 2024 11:27 am 0
“Conservatives” in five years = “As the Party of Lincoln, we’re proud to support in the Republican plank ,REAL DEI, as the “other party” is the party of Jim Crow. Our DEI doesn’t involve human sacrifice, and we will stand string against human sacrifice in the workplace.”
Paintersforms #386220 January 17, 2024 12:18 pm 0
In 5 years Lincoln will be rayciss lol.
pyrrhus #386233 January 17, 2024 12:38 pm 0
The Lincoln Memorial will be getting demolished within 10 years..Lincoln said in the Lincoln-Douglas debates that blacks were inferior, and should be freed and sent back to Africa…And he secretly attempted to do it during CW1, but couldn’t get any countries to take them….
Götterdamn-it-all #386240 January 17, 2024 12:46 pm 0
Well…in point of fact, he was.
Ostei Kozelskii #386300 January 17, 2024 3:20 pm 0
Indeed. One of his more admirable qualities.
Paintersforms #386348 January 17, 2024 8:03 pm 0
I’m aware. If they go after Lincoln, the whole edifice starts to crumble. Point being, I think they’re that self-destructive.
Krustykurmudgeon #386182 January 17, 2024 11:23 am 0
I was thinking of z’s post on the guess who’s coming to dinner movie a month or two ago. Which of these back archetypes in your opinion is the most potent) destructive? 1) the Sidney Poitier deity type figure2) the harmless goofy archetype (satchmo, James baskett)3) the daddy-o archetype (think cab Calloway)
JR Wirth #386189 January 17, 2024 11:32 am 0
All three were used to create the myth of Obama long before Obama. He stepped into the role and took the reigns of the brainwashing machine. And let’s pause and reflect on the fact that this country reelected him. I’m using that refrain more often. “We reelected Obama.” A people who do that deserve to be carted off to Babylon and lose it all.
Mow Knowname #386213 January 17, 2024 12:10 pm 0
“…at last, I can PROVE I’m not racist.” My white friends and co-workers were GIDDY about Bathhouse Barry. He was on the INTERNET and the John Stewart show. He was hip and cool. He was the black boy that every Karen wanted to $#@!. He was the decent black guy who you could work with in the office. Most importantly: “…at last, I can PROVE I’m not racist.”
JR Wirth #386217 January 17, 2024 12:15 pm 0
My wine Karen next door neighbor literally would have fukt him at the time. I remember that.
KGB #386225 January 17, 2024 12:24 pm 0
Was she laboring under the delusion that he’d have been able to perform in the presence of a female?
Krustykurmudgeon #386235 January 17, 2024 12:42 pm 0
I was sr in hs when Obama first got elected. I thought that it was kind of a final burying of the hatchet. As Ronnie wood once said I wish that I knew what I know now
LineInTheSand #386358 January 17, 2024 10:36 pm 0
Great song! “But love is blindand you soon will findYou’re just a boy again”
3g4me #386321 January 17, 2024 4:07 pm 0
Mow: I saw so much of that attitude everywhere – and I just could not figure out what they thought they were seeing. I pegged him as an anti-White avatar, the front-man for the money men’s Stalinist impulses – from the get go. I cancelled family members and long-standing friendships over the abomination. I don’t regret doing so That was my line in the sand.
Gespenst #386215 January 17, 2024 12:12 pm 0
Sidney’s character was the most destructive. “Guess Who’s Coming to Dinner” was planned as propaganda. “In the Heat of the Night” was straight up anti-white pornography.Satchmo and Calloway were entertainers.
JR Wirth #386221 January 17, 2024 12:18 pm 0
By then the white population was already defanged and neutered. They had it right where they wanted it.
Krustykurmudgeon #386239 January 17, 2024 12:45 pm 0
I feel that Poitier would only have been appealing to the awfls of the 60s. I would guess that there were fewer of them then than there are now. I would think your average blue collar Joe in 1967 would have found his movies insulting and/or hamfisted. Of course it was easy back then to live in 90+ percent white areas then so maybe your blue collar Joe was just as naive
Oswald Spengler #386306 January 17, 2024 3:35 pm 0
In 1967, black-white race relations seemed to be improving. The landmark Civil Rights Act of 1964 had recently passed. Widespread black rioting was not yet a perennial feature of American life. It was thought at the time– with the passage of enough time, the expenditure of enough money, and with sufficient goodwill on the part of well-meaning blacks and whites — that blacks would eventually catch up with whites. Unfortunately, it didn’t quite turn out that way.
Ostei Kozelskii #386329 January 17, 2024 4:55 pm 0
1967 was the third straight year of widespread negro rioting. Significantly, negro antisocial behavior escalated from its already high level the more whites extended the palm to them. The savage is either at your feet or at your throat. Prior to the so-called “civil rights” movement, it was the former. Now it’s the latter.
JR Wirth #386178 January 17, 2024 11:17 am 0
I always have to look up these mouthpieces, they’re so interchangeable and forgettable. In a few keystrokes it looks like Christopher Rufo = Manhattan Institute mouthpiece = Paul Singer (((. )))) and his friends. I’m not going to go down the “every single time” route because it’s too easy. I know the “hired pen” has been a major theme on this blog and for good reason. Possible 95+% of everything we consume in even alternative media.
c matt #386194 January 17, 2024 11:44 am 0
Gab seems to be somewhat of an exception (that proves the rule?), but maybe it’s just the algorithm screening for my tastes.
JR Wirth #386198 January 17, 2024 11:48 am 0
I’m pretty sure they’ve been boycotting Gab since day one. The last thing they want is eyeballs on a platform like that. Why they keep launching other failed platforms.
Melissa #386167 January 17, 2024 10:37 am 0
“The left proposed redefining marriage to mean sharing rent and a bed. Instead of rejecting this out of hand, the right proposes civil unions, thus leaving us with two degenerate options.”There is a large family in my community who are devout Christians. They have five kids and the husband works really hard to support his wife who diligently teaches their children at home.Their oldest daughter is 17 and has been telling them that she is now a boy. They obviously love her and their world has been torn apart by this. They have had to put her in a type of group home because they are greatly concerned about the influence she could have on their younger kids. It’s a heartbreaking situation.Damn the conservatives for never standing up and for always permitting the degenerate tentacles of the left to destroy so much.
Chet Rollins #386172 January 17, 2024 10:47 am 0
Likely she got that from Social Media or School. The only other reason is usually sexual abuse.One of my uncles has a son who went to the “Catholic” University and came back a tranny. They’re trying to figure out what to do before he permanently mutilates himself. My guess in this case is autogynephilia.Sad to say it, but a lot of the reason is Christian parents are just plain weak, and the kids can sense the outside culture is far more powerful. They simply don’t have the vitality for a real war. One of the dumbest tropes is that kids naturally rebel. It’s nonsense. Kids follow power, and teen rebellion is a result of a stronger power pulling kids away from their parents.
Melissa #386176 January 17, 2024 11:06 am 0
Chet Rollins:It absolutely was social media. I’m sorry about your uncle’s situation. It’s really tragic.
Compsci #386195 January 17, 2024 11:44 am 0
Is social media the cause, or a covariant? I wonder. Getting back to the concept of “spiteful mutants” from Dutton and Woodley, are these people simply products of their (failed) genetics who have been allowed to live and “thrive” and worse, reproduce, in our modern society?Think about the state of our society 100 or 200 years ago. Could a person—even if they “feel” they are more feminine than masculine—have “come out” and been applauded and supported in that society? Could they have been allowed to wear women’s clothing and have been protected from discrimination in employment, housing and such?I’m leaning toward an environment that does not so much cause the behavioral pathology, but as to allow it to manifest and thrive. Thereby encouraging others into such behavior.A distinction perhaps without a difference.
Jack Dodson #386204 January 17, 2024 11:58 am 0
It is definitely cultural rather than genetic–and that culture is exceedingly cruel, as Glen and Melissa noted. While we observe homosexuality in other species (although not at the recently high rate as is claimed among humans), we do not observe transgenderism in nature. Why is that unique to us? Culture. If transgenderism and other sexual deviancy are stigmatized, they largely disappear over time unless there is some biological basis for it, which generally is not the case.See “racism” for a good example of how cultural stigma can stifle something regardless of the informational means of dissemination of the concept. Unlike the previously mentioned deviancies, there actually is a biological and evolutionary basis for racism and yet the concept is largely squelched (yes, since the concept has roots in reality, over time censorship has to be imposed to contain it, the opposite of transgenderism, but the point stands).
Paintersforms #386229 January 17, 2024 12:31 pm 0
I’d bet most of today’s homos will someday realize they only did it to fit in, and God only knows how that plays out. Reminds me of a time at the city watering hole, the flaming hairdresser was declaiming how he liked being sweet a lot more back when it wasn’t cool. This was probably 10 years ago now, yikes.
Compsci #386243 January 17, 2024 12:53 pm 0
Jack, still don’t see your reply as denying genetic influence. I have no desire to date men, nor play the role of a woman. Why? I am imbued with the same societal pressures as you describe—yet I am immune. Why? Well, I was born that way. Genetics predisposes, society shapes that predisposition, hence homosexuality and transism. A society that represses such predisposition is, as we are finding out, perhaps the better one all things considered.
Jack Dodson #386249 January 17, 2024 1:17 pm 0
@Compsci: Transgenderism is definitely cultural and has been prevalent is earlier societies, too. There apparently is some genetic basis for homosexuality and perhaps some other deviancies, but outside of humans, transgenderism does not exist in nature and there does not appear to be any genetic basis/predisposition for it. Granted, all of it can be suppressed and a better society would result, but at least transgenderism seems to be–forgive the term!–purely a social construct. If it were not promoted it would not exist. Some of the other deviancies would occur regardless of promotion or suppression.
Filthie #386187 January 17, 2024 11:29 am 0
It isn’t weakness Chet. Do not be hard on such people.My daughter ran away to join the circus ten years ago as a gay militant lesbian. For me a line had been crossed, and when I refused to get dragged across it with her… our family imploded. Everyone took sides. You go to war with everyone, your own family, your in-laws… and no one is your friend. The women were the worst. Eventually I got cancelled. There IS a God, and by His grace my marriage held. But…we were banished from the hive ten years ago.As our elders become frail geriatrics… I have been generously pardoned for my sins and allowed to help provide geriatric care for them. I do my part, but I have no real connection with them anymore. I haven’t seen my daughter in over ten years and probably never will. I can accept and live with it.Parents confronted by sin and perversion in their kids have two choices: say goodbye to your heart, OR… say good bye to your mind. It is a truism that liberalism is a mental disorder. Coexisting with those lunatics means throwing away your sanity. Going to war with them shreds your heart. Wounds like that don’t walk off, either way you are in for a world of hurt that will take years to heal. Some people just vapor lock and freeze in the headlights… and at some point, eventually lose their minds anyway.To this day I still wonder sometimes if I made the right choice. But then I read the stuff by our esteemed blog host and the bums in the comments… and my doubts evaporate. At some point our kids have to answer for who they are on their own, and their world is meaner, nastier and crazier than even mine was. The only answers I see at this point are ones that involve steel, lead and shot…but whadda I know? All I know for sure is that I can’t live in someone else’s lunacy, and that the real world is what it is.
Melissa #386199 January 17, 2024 11:48 am 0
Filthie:Beautiful post. I’m glad your marriage was strong enough to withstand. These situations are devastating and overwhelming to bear. Many of the good, Christian families I know are unaware of just how evil the plan is to destroy not only White America but White families.It’s almost as though they are such good people that they simply can’t imagine how bad tptb are.
Filthie #386266 January 17, 2024 2:05 pm 0
Ain’t that the truth. And as tough as it is on fathers, it is sheer hell for the moms. Against my objections the church elders at our little chapel out in the country are starting to refer devastated, estranged and cancelled parents to me when their kids go sideways. I am not good enough to be any kind of spiritual advisor, nor am I an expert on coping with queers and lunatics… but I tell them: the Bible is what it is, it says what it means and it means what it says. I just mostly listen and commiserate with them as they grieve. I also tell them that they can only do what they can do. As they said above, most of this horror is driven by social media and the schools. It’s creeping into the churches too. After a certain point All we can do for these kids is pray and be there for them if they decide to turn themselves around and fly right. If you “tolerate” their demons… don’t be surprised if they become your demons too. I’ve seen that happen all to often.I wish I had something meaningful to say or real help to offer.
Ostei Kozelskii #386304 January 17, 2024 3:28 pm 0
Therein lies a question. To be good must one refuse to think ill of others? And if so, what good is good?
3g4me #386323 January 17, 2024 4:19 pm 0
Melissa: If I may offer an alternate explanation? Too many Christians, as devout as they may seem, do not truly believe in the existence of ‘evil.’ They’ve been so saturated in the “God is Love” and “Love the sinner, hate the sin” pabulum, that they no longer comprehend the existence of evil itself or its human adherents. In retrospect, I think there was something to be said for the old “fire and brimstone” Christianity. Modern churchians threw the baby out with the bathwater.
Danny #386242 January 17, 2024 12:53 pm 0
That was well said and I commend you on your openness. We have three (adults now) children and part of having a family is the stark realization that they are individuals. I think we all agree that as an individual, a person will go their own way at some point. That’s the way it is. I have been very fortunate with my family outcomes so far.
Its who you know #386272 January 17, 2024 2:19 pm 0
I wouldn’t stop loving them, but they can’t bring their crazy into my house!
fakeemail #386263 January 17, 2024 1:50 pm 0
this is where islams honor killings make sense. . . heck, they are right about women!
Evil Sandmich #386269 January 17, 2024 2:17 pm 0
The only answers I see at this point are ones that involve steel, lead and shot—A Fedi poster had some poll of doctors asking why they didn’t go into the abortion business and large percent avoided the field because of “fear of political violence”. I hold out hope for a more well reasoned solution though, of course.
Moran ya Simba #386278 January 17, 2024 2:38 pm 0
A moving comment filthie. Not particularly religious myself but we are up against satanic evil. Hope it all works out for you eventually
The Infant Phenomenon #386281 January 17, 2024 2:47 pm 0
“To this day I still wonder sometimes if I made the right choice.”If you followed your conscience, you made the right choice. Dr Martin Luther (the real one) said, ” … to go against conscience is neither right nor safe.”I had to bury my first-born, a son, in Oct 2001. That’s what has happened to you with your daughter. It’s not something that one “gets over” but one DOES get through it; one gets past it. After such a loss, however, nothing can ever touch you again. The worst has befallen you, and you are still sane and alive and you obeyed your conscience. And that is not nothing. You have won a hard victory, whether you can see that or not.There IS a God, yes. And if you cling to that, you WILL be all right. Trust me on that.God bless you and keep you in His unfailing grace. I know what you are going through and what you have been through. I do.
Filthie #386420 January 18, 2024 10:29 am 0
Well thanks – all you guys. But as TIP says, it is something you move past. I just don’t want to see this happen to anyone else.
3g4me #386324 January 17, 2024 4:23 pm 0
Filthie: God bless you for your steadfastness even in such heartsick pain. I cannot imagine living with having to reject one of my children if I were in your shoes, yet I’ve told my own repeatedly that is what will happen if they turn away from all they’ve been taught. May God grant you peace and heart’s ease.
Paintersforms #386226 January 17, 2024 12:25 pm 0
On the money, Chet.
Moran ya Simba #386273 January 17, 2024 2:20 pm 0
It is hard to stop the poison seeping through. Hopefully it is just a phase for that poor kid
Jannie #386163 January 17, 2024 10:31 am 0
It’s amazing how so-called “muh free speech” Anglosphere has such blanket, “consensual” censorship. If you follow Eric Zemmour and Marion Marechal in France, they get invited on national TV all the time to complain about anti-White racism and Black/Arab crime. You’d never see that in the US, UK or Australia/NZ.
Jack Dodson #386171 January 17, 2024 10:45 am 0
This is the stench of Puritanism. France does not suffer it. To be fair, if Zemmour or Marechel make the same statements to the public in a forum away from the media, they theoretically could be charged with crimes (it has happened to others), but isn’t that now the case throughout the Anglosphere, which also would destroy any broadcast outlet that followed the French model?One of the biggest lies we suffer is the belief we are free. That’s never been true and becomes less so with each passing day. The public stocks never went away in the Anglosphere. They simply are managed now by ignorant Hottentots in sun dresses controlled by Jews.
Paintersforms #386238 January 17, 2024 12:45 pm 0
“This is the stench of Puritanism.” OT, but that reminds me. It’s been said the American Civil War was a continuation of the English Civil War. Fair enough. Could it also be said the English Civil War was a continuation of Wessex, et al, vs the Danelaw? Granted, I’m a Pennsylvanian with a Norman family name, so I have an interest. Still, I’m stuck with a notion of, essentially, spergy Vikings doing spergy Viking mayhem trying to cope with culture/ideas/ethics that don’t fit them well.
Evil Sandmich #386274 January 17, 2024 2:23 pm 0
As I’ve seen people mention, it’s been all downhill since the Battle of Hastings.
Paintersforms #386351 January 17, 2024 8:32 pm 0
Just a cursory look at the history of the British Isles, and what I know of American history, leave me the impression of something extraordinary. Maybe I’m biased by the present, but it seems to revolve around identity. All of these Northern European tribes crashing together, splitting apart, coming back together, very slowly becoming a people, or not. By turns dominant and subjugated. Confidently spreading around the world, then doubting the project. Etc. It’s as if our politics, culture, religion revolve around this problem and this tempestuous way of being we have. I wish I understood it fully, but I don’t think we’re anywhere near the end of the story.
Paintersforms #386352 January 17, 2024 8:43 pm 0
More than anything, I’d like people to vent, by all means, but not fret about The End and realize it’s probably just us being us. FWIW.
Jerome #386177 January 17, 2024 11:16 am 0
France has its own no go zones ,both physically and conceptually. Would you please cite the government report which accurately states the demography of France? According to the French establishment there is no ethnicity if you are a French citoyen.
c matt #386193 January 17, 2024 11:40 am 0
Does France anti-semitism laws? Are you allowed to question the holohoax?
The Infant Phenomenon #386285 January 17, 2024 2:56 pm 0
Are you allowed to question the holohoax? No. It is a criminal offence. But France still has a free press and much freer speech than anyplace else that I know of, the Holocaust Legends being a notable exception, quite unworthy of a great nation, which France still is, believe it or not.
The Infant Phenomenon #386284 January 17, 2024 2:54 pm 0
France still has free speech and a free press.
DYSPEPSIA GENERATION Blog Archive False Choices #386162 January 17, 2024 10:31 am 0
[…] ZMan intrudes some reality. […]
My Comment #386153 January 17, 2024 10:14 am 0
False choices cherished by the right also includes the idea that buying guns will keep you free (not having a gun means you are at risk from the government). All these guns have not resulted in any rights being preserved including the 2nd amendment which keeps being chipped away at and will eventually fall when the left manages to pack the court. All of the false choices the right is given result in the right not pushing back sufficiently against the jihads waged by the left and their Globocap masters.
Jannie #386156 January 17, 2024 10:24 am 0
Gun rights are still important: just visit a society where law-abiding citizens are unarmed by law (Latin America).
ProZNoV #386180 January 17, 2024 11:20 am 0
Yes and no. At the very least, it’s “friction”, and gives our elites pause. They’re building bunkers for a reason. The 99.9% non compliance rate over the pistol brace rule was encouraging.
c matt #386293 January 17, 2024 3:15 pm 0
This. They know gun owners are out there (cue the “gun owners could be here” meme). They know the vast majority won’t use them. But . . . there is just enough uncertainty as to whether and who would use them to hold back going full Stalin for now.
Tars Tarkas #386181 January 17, 2024 11:22 am 0
The gun people drive me insane. They use them as pacifiers or protection from their neighbors. Having a gun for self-defense is fine and recommended. But claiming you have a gun to defend rights you absolutely will not defend under any circumstances is just foolish and silly. The only right they even say they will defend to the death is the right to keep the gun. In that case, the government can do anything just so long as they get to keep their guns locked up and unloaded and a danger to nobody.
Compsci #386207 January 17, 2024 12:04 pm 0
Tar’s, absolutely correct and to the point!However let me add a slightly more benign view. People are basically cowards. They need a strong leader to rally around. To light the spark so to speak. When that leadership arises, then a populace with basic equipment and understanding of such use of firearms is infinitely better than a populace that has only a distant memory of such things.For myself, I remember purchasing my first pistol, a Colt 1911. I was in some awe of it and would never consider carrying it as a personal defense weapon—albeit completely legal and accepted in my State at the time. This soon passed with training and use. Now such a weapon is as common in my daily life as wallet and house keys.So whom do you want beside you? The pre-firearm owning rube of 40 years ago, or the old guy now with more guns than teeth.
Steve #386270 January 17, 2024 2:18 pm 0
I would put it a little more benignly than that. Most people (and I’d include myself in that) have an idea of what a better society would be, but have no idea of how to get there. Assuming we are not yet beyond Claire’s awkward stage, what can one actually do?I’ve got bug-in and bug-out both pretty well in hand. Friends good and true in both locations. But apart from head on a swivel, I’m not sure what my next step could be. It’s not that I need a leader to follow. Just a couple of practical ideas would be more than enough.One thing I’m almost positive of, though, is that those who are still unarmed are basically useless to me at best, but more likely a liability.
Compsci #386297 January 17, 2024 3:16 pm 0
“ One thing I’m almost positive of, though, is that those who are still unarmed are basically useless to me at best, but more likely a liability.” Hear, hear. It’s an “tell” of sorts. Those people who are not prepared to protect themselves are not prepared to protect others.
Tars Tarkas #386336 January 17, 2024 6:06 pm 0
Just wait until you need someone to can or sew clothing or other low tech replacement for what would be lost after a uprising or even a long term grid-down situation.Not everyone is or should be in the warrior caste. An idiot with a gun is probably far more dangerous in such a situation than a competent/smart person without a gun. An idiot with a gun can get the whole police force at your door. Granted, an idiot without a gun can do that, but I think it would take more effort.One man who can fix a generator is worth 10 warriors.
Jack Dodson #386223 January 17, 2024 12:21 pm 0
All true, but I suspect there is actual government opposition to firearms ownership because it makes it somewhat harder to hire thugs to enforce its edicts. Otherwise, yes, they are useless crutches outside of personal safety use.
Whiskey #386227 January 17, 2024 12:29 pm 0
Nope. White people sense the Pol Pot moment is coming. It cannot be held back. Hence, the gun buying. All that anti-White sentiment ultimately ends up at Pol Pot. They know. At that time, the only solution is what Machiavelli advised. Always be armed. This is why the elites are so determined to eliminate gun ownership. To make the Pol Pot moment so much easier. People know.
Moran ya Simba #386276 January 17, 2024 2:27 pm 0
Empirically speaking, an armed population does not prevent tyranny. But it is certainly good for self defense. The missing link making private firearms inert against tyranny is organization. IRA, Vietcong, Taliban are all top down organizations. Americans with millions of firearms, or Europeans with a lot of hunting weapons (fewer handguns), are individuals watching their children being abused to hate themselves and their heritage. Organization and the willingness to sacrifice for one’s people. That’s the difference between the former and the latter
G Lordon Giddy #386152 January 17, 2024 10:13 am 0
Musk seems to be more libertarian in his world view, he still needs some slaps across his face to wake up to reality. Musk comes from the now increasingly failed state of South Africa, he has to see what has happened to his homeland but libertarianism is a blindness but maybe in time he comes around to reality? I am both happy at times with Musk but at other times much disappointed.Musk seems to be the best we got among the elite class right now which is not saying much.
Chet Rollins #386169 January 17, 2024 10:40 am 0
Musk is holding back. He’s still a technocrat and therefore not to be trusted, but he knows the score and the line he can’t cross (yet).
Hemid #386208 January 17, 2024 12:04 pm 0
Musk becomes a perfectly coherent character with no secrets if you discard the assumption that he’s smart—which you should, because it’s a libertarian assumption of market justice, the white equivalent of “If you’re so smart, why aren’t you rich?”He’s nerdy because he’s *not* intelligent. He objects to injustice because he *doesn’t* understand it. He stumbles into—and immediately gets shock-collared away from—/ourguys/ because he doesn’t have the “social intelligence” (observational and concept-forming ability) to recognize us. Will he learn anything from his persecution? There’s no teenage libertarian or illiterate “rationalist” explanation for it, so no.He’s a Trump-style accidental traitor to the system whose *minuscule* defection is a grave injury to the regime’s narcissism, and bait/accelerant for its id. He has no capacity to realize this.
Bourbon #386241 January 17, 2024 12:52 pm 0
Two of the great questions of our time: Who created Peter Thiel, and who created Elon Musk? Because they sure as hell didn’t create themselves. Someone chose them to be playing the roles which they are playing in this drama. Someone – Some Group – very powerful, very well connected, very reticent about divulging their own true identities. Who are they? What are their intentions? What are their goals?
ProZNoV #386184 January 17, 2024 11:23 am 0
Musk isn’t so bad. Yuval Noah Harari is terrifying. Providing an ethical framework and moral justification for the elimination of large swaths of humanity to his elite masters. Pure evil.
Bourbon #386244 January 17, 2024 12:54 pm 0
Well at wikipedia, you don’t have to scroll down to his “Early Life”; it’s right there in the first sentence.
Stranger in a Strange Land #386315 January 17, 2024 3:55 pm 0
I wouldn’t give Harari credit for being the Anti-Christ (which he’d probably take as a compliment), but he’s an archetype.
The Wild Geese Howard #386151 January 17, 2024 10:13 am 0
Sailer shows a flicker of life as he calls out the useless Hainaia’s foolish contention that DIE won’t affect air travel: https://www.unz.com/isteve/die-in-the-sky/
Chet Rollins #386168 January 17, 2024 10:39 am 0
There are several personalities that have mastered rage farming, and Hanania is top-tier in this regard. He says hard-right things for interest, and then something retarded for engagement. When the backlash happens, he calls everyone stupid. It’s a cynical ploy for relevance that is, unfortunately, very effective.
Compsci #386228 January 17, 2024 12:29 pm 0
We already have a “life lesson” in the effect of DIE on air travel! To say DIE will/can not affect safety is a “tell” that the writer allows his ideology to overcome observable reality. Or stated a bit more nicely, simply is not acquainted with the facts.I’ve written about this in this forum at least a couple of times previously, so for the sake of new followers I’ll briefly restate. It has to do with the 2 fatal crashes of the Boeing 737 max a few years back.In short, the two planes were flown by 3rd world airlines and native pilots. This was possible due to lowered training standards allowed by Boeing’s computer assisted cockpit controls. Quite literally, the pilot takes off from the runway by pressing a computer screen “take off” icon, the automated systems programmed by Boeing do the rest. Landing is done similarly.Of course, there was that one in a 100 or so instance where weather conditions fool the computer and the plane stalls and bad things happen. I saw an interview with an experienced (on Boeing 737 max) American (White guy) pilot commenting on the crashes. He had experienced the *same* failure—more than once—and survived. He survived by *immediate* override of auto-pilot and executing a rather counterintuitive control maneuver to prevent/remediate stall condition.His point was basically, you need immediate action, much experience in the cockpit, and great confidence in your ability to override your natural instinct to panic. In at least one instance of the two crashes cited, the pilots were completely puzzled as to what was happening and were busy looking (I kid you not) at the plane’s emergency action manual when they hit the ground!You can be sure that DIE pilot candidates will also be placed into the cockpit after being certified as to their ability at pressing icons for *automated* take off and landing with similar results.There is a reason we have two pilots in every commercial flight, and it’s not to press icons on a computer screen.
Moran ya Simba #386280 January 17, 2024 2:42 pm 0
Interesting perspective on the 737 debacle. I still think the max is a badly designed plane but your made me think of the old principle that the man is more important that the equipment 9 times out of 10.
Compsci #386302 January 17, 2024 3:25 pm 0
I can’t argue wrt the design of the 737 max—and I guess using the word “design” is a bit of a misnomer if what I’ve heard is correct, that the 737 max is a bastard expansion of a perfectly fine 737 original design. Another way to look at my comment is to take the plane out of the posting and think of our efforts to design a “driverless automobile”. How’s that working out so far?
Stranger in a Strange Land #386320 January 17, 2024 4:05 pm 0
A future solution – DIE pilot & copilot to properly signal the virtue, but add a 3rd white guy experienced pilot stashed in a cockpit jump seat – just in case someone actually has to, ya’ know – fly the darn plane.
Ostei Kozelskii #386307 January 17, 2024 3:35 pm 0
Now this is what I call pressing your luck…
WillC #386150 January 17, 2024 10:12 am 0
It’s not about race, religion, gender, or any other divider issue. It’s about powerful people conquering by dividing. It’s about setting up oppressor vs. oppressed to take full control. Focus on the real enemy. Do not get caught up in the diversions. You are not wrong with your answers about the diversions, but if answered, there would just be another diversion. Prepare to battle those setting up the diversions.
LineInTheSand #386155 January 17, 2024 10:22 am 0
“Focus on the real enemy.” Okay, so who is that? “powerful people conquering by dividing” So, everyone on earth would just live happily if powerful people weren’t exacerbating divisions for their own unspecified reasons? Kum Bah yah. It seems like you must oppose all immigration laws, since those are divisions. Right? Finally, if powerful people are exploiting divisions for some reason, then that reason is the more fundamental explanation for their behavior, rather than the mere act of dividing people. Race is the deepest cause of division, but that division is authentic and best respected.
Evil Sandmich #386173 January 17, 2024 10:48 am 0
Yeah whenever I see:powerful peopleI always ask for some names, you know, just some examples so that we can put some faces to ridiculous statement. It’s then always amusing to see how deep they go into the bench-of-evil to keep people from seeing the lie behind the claim.
c matt #386191 January 17, 2024 11:35 am 0
So, everyone on earth would just live happily if powerful people weren’t exacerbating divisions for their own unspecified reasons? No, but it would likely be much better. Let’s see if Will C names these division exacerbators.
Steve #386277 January 17, 2024 2:29 pm 0
Apart from a few outliers, I doubt it’s possible to name names because it’s become melded into the culture in general. For example, you could probably come up with a couple people outstanding in their villainy who had something to do with the tranny explosion, but I think looked at honestly, it’s more of a confluence of minor actors that social media somehow synergizes. That said, I did chuckle a bit at @LitS’ assumption that @WillC’s vision of the future is a Kum Bah Ya utopia in an essay aptly named, “False Choices.”
The Infant Phenomenon #386287 January 17, 2024 3:03 pm 0
https://www.alibris.com/The-Return-of-the-Gods-Jonathan-Cahn/book/51642427?matches=41 Explains the situation in clear and uncompromising detail, with many concrete examples of the thesis. Highly recommended. “For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against … spiritual wickedness in high places.”
LineInTheSand #386294 January 17, 2024 3:15 pm 0
Good reply, Steve. What are some of the choices that I am overlooking between organizing our society around the importance race and not? Besides what we have now, I guess one choice is a civic nationalist state that forbids all racial collectives.
Steve #386459 January 18, 2024 11:44 am 0
@LitS, “What are some of the choices that I am overlooking between organizing our society around the importance race and not?”Guess I didn’t express that very well.What I meant was that by about 3rd grade, pretty much everyone has had it pounded into him that no social arrangement is going to be ideal. So dismissing @WillC’s argument by assuming his chosen social arrangement (whatever that is) would lead to some perfect world might be valid if he were 8 years old, but not if you extend to him the basic assumption that whatever he’s trying to describe makes sense to him.Once he says there will be no more sickness, no more death, go for the kill.
3g4me #386331 January 17, 2024 5:04 pm 0
WillC: I call straight up bull-shite. The divisions amongst people are both natural – i.e. at a genetic, cellular level – and God ordained. We are not fungible nor equal. Nothing in nature is. This simplistic chant of “Don’t let them divide us” deliberately omits who is “them” and who composes the “us.” Your “us” is not my “us.” Yes, it damned well is about race, religion, and sex (gender pertains to language, not people). All those things which compose human identity, and make us individual creations. Go push your globalist pabulum on stupid people.
WillC #386524 January 18, 2024 2:35 pm 0
Wow, never thought my comment would be interpreted to be about being a globalist and ignore the problems and just limit the elite and we would all be happy. I am definitely a capitalist, communist hating, Constitution-loving American. We are definitely not all equal in our abilities. I’m meaning that globalists are using our inequality to create an oppressor versus an oppressed worldview in America because economic divisions have not worked in the New World. Basically using critical theory encouraged by the Franklin School to imprison us all. We need to stop those people from using human greed to make people think we can solve the problems with government power. That’s why I said that you’re correct about all these divisions and false choices. They are definitely grifters taking advantage of being “a protected class”, and that needs to end. I just believe there are evil people that are happy to not let any crisis go to waste. I wish we could all use rules for radicals against them. Isolate them, freeze them, and make it personal. It’s really hard to do that though, when the media is all going along with them.
Arshad Ali #386148 January 17, 2024 10:07 am 0
“We are seeing this again with the war over the antiwhite pogroms labeled Diversity, Equity, and Inclusion. It is not an accident that the acronym DEI could easily be DIE, as the people behind this do not hide their intensions. When they say they want to eliminate whiteness, there is only one way this can happen. If one were to call for eliminating Jewishness, you get compared to Hitler. Therefore, logic dictates that when they say they want to eliminate whiteness, they mean white people.”This is a Jewish supremacist project pure and simple. Kevin MacDonald would have a fair amount to say on the topic. The thing about DIE is that these people are tribal themselves and give preference to one another in myriad ways.The history of the human world is tribal in nature. Tribes are a survival mechanism. Without the tribe and tribal members looking out for one another and preferring one another, the individual dies. Individual identity itself is drawn from tribal identity and becomes a meaningless joke without it.Without tribal identity white people are doomed to extinction.In passing, the 14th century Arab historian Ibn Khaldun had much of contemporary relevance to say about “asabiyyah” (roughly “tribal spirit”) as a force that could prevail against senescent and decadent civilisations. This is the only weapon whites have.
Tired Citizen #386159 January 17, 2024 10:29 am 0
While I agree with your post, you also need to realize that the people getting all of the spoils of this bullshit have not put up any resistance to it or spoken up about it. The criminal race has gladly taken their preferences and “free shit” from YT with a big smile on their faces. In the eyes of the criminal race, they are always a victim of the white man. So while we can say that the juice have a lot to do with this, the subjects have been more than complicit.
c matt #386188 January 17, 2024 11:30 am 0
Just like Bill Gates recognized that software (and specifically, operating systems) was the driving force behind computing and essentially cornered that market, the juice understand/understood that fiat currency – and control over it – is the single most powerful node in the system. Control that, and practically everything else falls into place. So while the subjects have been complicit to some extent, there was really little choice once 1913 came around. Can it be undone? Probably, but not without a lot of pain.
JerseyJeffersonian #386313 January 17, 2024 3:45 pm 0
To this point: “Let me issue and control a nation’s money and I care not who writes the laws.” Mayer Amschel Rothschild
usNthem #386146 January 17, 2024 9:27 am 0
I just don’t know if Whites as a group have it in them to stand up and seriously push back against this s***. As Z has said, 20% of that cohort is insane. Life is still too easy and comfortable to rock the boat in a big way. Recently, I joined a new golf group – nice guys and all, but they’re nearly to a man totally into the local college negro sportsball teams, to say nothing of the negro felon league. As I gave up all that stuff years ago, I don’t get it – I mean a large number of us grew up watching that stuff, but 40-50 years ago the nfl and probably the nba were 60-70% White – now it’s just the opposite. I don’t understand how people can watch that crap anymore, especially when every commercial features all blacks or other POCs and maybe a White or two. It’s mind boggling. As long as Whitey is willing to slavishly to lap that garbage up, nothing much is going to change.
Captain Willard #386154 January 17, 2024 10:15 am 0
No less an authority than Rupert Murdoch, when asked why he was paying such high prices for TV sports broadcast rights, said “Because sports are tribal”. Sports are the way lots of white guys connect to others. They are reluctant to lose this connection. Something will have to come along to replace this connection. It may be “the need for survival”……
Ostei Kozelskii #386206 January 17, 2024 12:04 pm 0
For white sportsball fans, sports are tribal only in the local sense–city or university. Whites do not watch sports to bolster racial solidarity. On the contrary, the vast majority of them are pathetic Hutuphiles who disdain their own race. Now for PoC, and especially nuggras, sportsball is racially tribal as all get out. The only reason negroes watch football and basketball is because their own kind are numerically dominant.
The Infant Phenomenon #386157 January 17, 2024 10:27 am 0
True dat. These “men” are content to spend an afternoon in front of the TV watching some Negroes play with a ball. Very odd.
Vinnyvette #386166 January 17, 2024 10:37 am 0
True “dat” revealing your inner negro?
Ostei Kozelskii #386210 January 17, 2024 12:06 pm 0
Good point. A nice first step in investing in one’s whitness is jettisoning all Hutu affectations. For many people this is difficult to do because the entire pop “culture” is little more than a concatenation of Afro-savage signs and gestures.
The Infant Phenomenon #386290 January 17, 2024 3:10 pm 0
“A nice first step in investing in one’s whitness is jettisoning all Hutu affectations. ” And an even nicer first step is cultivating a sense of humor and the ability to recognize satire; irony; mockery. You ought to try it.
Stranger in a Strange Land #386322 January 17, 2024 4:15 pm 0
Ostei – may I assume this would also include going cold turkey on listening to / viewing of any rap, hop-hop, etc. musical compositions?(uses Col. Kurtz voice)…the horror.
Tired Citizen #386164 January 17, 2024 10:34 am 0
To gain an understanding how defeated whites have become, look no further than the father of Ethan Liming or the daughter of the retired police chief who was run down by scholars on his bicycle. They couldn’t wait to let everyone know that it isn’t about race, and not to judge all by the actions of “the few”. There are no words to describe my anger over such things.In my mind, the negro was created with the left over slop that was going to be thrown away after God created the rest of humanity. Someone screwed up and allowed the sludge to be re-injected into the machine. Everything they touch they destroy.
c matt #386183 January 17, 2024 11:23 am 0
My understanding is there exists a government agency (maybe an NGO) that reaches out to such victims to “coach” them on public announcements. My guess is this group is a screening device so that any family of a victim who is not on board with the program never gets media attention.
Bourbon #386245 January 17, 2024 1:01 pm 0
“the retired police chief who was run down by scholars on his bicycle” That one was a mafia hit, courtesy of (((Meyer Lansky Inc))). The gr0ids were just hired hands.
Drive-By Shooter #386170 January 17, 2024 10:41 am 0
Caucasian people can watch those circuses because most weren’t raised well, same as the people who watched those companies of entertaining performers 50 years ago. Childlike fools love the circus.Look also at some pictures of kids performing the Bellamy salute, which was abolished in the early 1940’s to avoid awkward comparisons. That’s evidence that those generations, too, weren’t raised well, and that was back in the day when most Caucasian parents bamboozled their children into believing that a Semitic supremacist is their god. It’s obvious that pre-Bellamy generations weren’t raised right. If they were they wouldn’t have allowed teachers to regiment their children into drones of a toxic empire.Now, the Z Man always has little to say on this blog about the raising of children, about the phases or stages of an individual life, and about the modes of living (e.g. student, householder, retiree, and renunciant). What conclusion(s) ought we to infer from this and other facts when the host starts shaking the cup again?
Ostei Kozelskii #386205 January 17, 2024 12:00 pm 0
No question about it. White sportsball fans are the very worst cucks of all. I have nothing but contempt for them.
SirLawrence #386255 January 17, 2024 1:34 pm 0
The same males who would never say anything explicitly pro-White, or even use the word “white” in reference to their own people, will time and again say “we won last night” wrt their favored franchise. “We”. Right.I watched a game with some of these males not long back as part of a social event for our church. The product is total garbage. It exists on fumes of desperation and nostalgia.What struck me, aside from the obvious blackitty-black of it all was that it seemed the camera operators and little men in the production trailer are going out of their way to show the absolute most fat, soy-laden, cucky of super-fans in the stands between plays. Like they have a contest among them of who can get the most pathetic looking fan on camera.But then again, I live in flyover. These people send their daughters to rape U precisely because of the “big school sports scene”. Not having much in common with my White Brothers has become commonplace. I try to remain patient with them. But when asked about sportsball or particular players, I always say I am rooting for the team with the White QB or the team with more White guys. The squirming is more entertaining than the game.
c matt #386288 January 17, 2024 3:06 pm 0
It used to be an unspoken rule in European and South American soccer that the “crowd” camera man would focus in on the most attractive female. It was put into overdrive for international tournaments. That seems to have diminished, if not disappeared altogether (maybe they are just not there?).
Ostei Kozelskii #386311 January 17, 2024 3:44 pm 0
Well, when beautiful cheerleaders are being replaced by heifers (and they are), it’s quite clear that feminine beauty–especially feminine white beauty–is becoming verboten.
Ostei Kozelskii #386310 January 17, 2024 3:42 pm 0
More common than cameramen focusing on the dorkiest fans is them focusing on white fans acting like nuggras, what with the gyrating and idiotic gesticulation of the arms. Even better if they’re proto-twerking in the company of an actual nuggra. Sportsball has become a ceremonial celebration of nuggratude.
ray #386145 January 17, 2024 9:23 am 0
‘Of course, the ultimate false choice, the very heart of American conservatism, is the assertion that they cannot use the same tactics as their opponent or exact revenge when they have power, because that would make them as bad as the left.’This is the problem, exactly. But the primary reason WHY ‘conservatives’ NEVER punish the Woke-Fem Politburo for tyranny and totalitarianism is because the Right is masculine and the Left is feminine. It ain’t Whites vs. Others. It’s male vs. female. And modern Western men do not have the stones to punish their daughters, wives, or women holding collective power and fiat. They quail and rationalize and compromise and fail. Conservatism Inc.Best recent example: First thing Donnie did after his election victory was ‘pardon’ Hillary Clinton, backing completely away from his campaign ‘You should be in jail’ rap. So, yet again: a ‘masculine’ male finally takes power . . . then simps and wimps and doesn’t do what needs doing.Therefore the problem merely persists, and never can be solved, or even addressed. Eventually the Woke-Fem Junta regains total power, and then your saggy old ass is indicted, your followers jailed indefinitely without due process, and your base targeted by the Junta Administration as insurrectionists and criminals. Mr. BigTalk retreats to Mar-a-Lago.Around ‘n around the ole ball spins. Men never learn. Look at the type of males allowed to be ‘impact conservatives’. It’s Jonah Goldberg and Prager University weenies, fer as the I kin see.Groundhog Day Nation.
LineInTheSand #386147 January 17, 2024 9:50 am 0
“It ain’t Whites vs. Others. It’s male vs. female.” So, if we tame the women, do you believe that a multiracial society can work? If so, what happens when a group of blacks demand proportional representation among surgeons or pilots?
Mr. Generic #386209 January 17, 2024 12:05 pm 0
> what happens when a group of blacks demand proportional representation among surgeons or pilots? They wouldn’t. Black men don’t have words like “equity” or “proportional representation” in their vocabulary. They may demand gibs, but not “proportional representation.” Have you ever been around blacks? They are very matriarchal. All of the activism in their communities is entirely driven by the women. Or, more likely, the activism is being imposed on the black community from the outside (also mostly women.)
LineInTheSand #386232 January 17, 2024 12:36 pm 0
“Or, more likely, the activism is being imposed on the black community from the outside (also mostly women.)” You believe that the group that funds, organizes, and incites the blacks to activism is mostly women? If so, say it clearly.
3g4me #386334 January 17, 2024 5:17 pm 0
Line: I cannot speak for ray, but I would think that if White men rediscovered the testicular fortitude to control women (specifically their wives and daughters), they would then naturally regain the discernment and will to control the aliens amongst them. Both the agitators and their golems.While feminism is to blame for a multitude of sins, I believe it was one of the main channels utilized by those who sought to undermine White civilization. They’ve utilized more violent means and races as well, but I do believe women have been the key node – precisely because of their control over men via sex, and their influence over their children.
ray #386372 January 18, 2024 8:43 am 0
3g4me — This is correct. Restore authentic and strong masculine leadership, most of the rest falls into place on automatic. I address these matters in more detail elsewhere on this thread.
ray #386363 January 18, 2024 8:12 am 0
LITS —Thank you for asking.A multi-racial society does work . . . in heaven. This place? Not so much.What got this big rock in trouble from the jump was the woman/hierarchy issue. Females seeking to usurp the place of God and men, and males wimping ‘n simping. Doing what women want instead of what God wants.So, obviously, fix the systemic flaw first, at the fundamentally dualistic center. Race is not at the fundamentally dualistic center. Then a whole bunch of stuff will sort ITSELF out, via restoration of masculine leadership and authority.No interventions necessary. As things did in Fifties America, when I was young, and the feds (collective feminine) were exponentially weaker. MEN ran the smaller and midsize towns. Not women, as is usually now the case.Full disclosure, I’m Christian so I’m a monarchist. I already know peeps will never solve their own problems. I work to prepare for permanent monarchy, and that work spills over into benefits for restoration of my nation. If the nation refuses it, tra la la I’m outta here, and duck.
SirLawrence #386149 January 17, 2024 10:07 am 0
Yes that is the Genesis. The eternal earthy problem of female temptation unbridled by male abdication of headship.The inversion has cured this into the foundation of progressive social status and morality.Until a man divorces from the inversion he will choose to bitterly protect that status and reinforce the morality.To do otherwise is an indictment that cascades all the way back. And we can’t have that. To take the “vote” from my wife and daughters would be unspeakable. And such.I’ve never met a woman who wasn’t an exception. Just like the prog death cult is a monolith but without any individual constituent parts. It just is.The conservative desires to fight in the trenches of incrementalism, to roll back the clock just a bit.To keep Gods knowledge but to let him have a little bit of his authority back because, you know, things got a little out of hand here for some reason.How generous.Chix with dix making my strong daughter have badfeels on the MMA mat is a tench too far.Conservatives are just Big Daddy to the sorority of exceptions. Just keep writing checks to State U to keep the party going.Conservatives seem to be more concerned with guarding the precious of exceptions than answering for their own abdication.The low hanging fruit of the bad commies is where ConInc grazes. But when anyone points to the Genesis, the instinct is to pounce with ire and fire as to how their garden is not among the fallen.It’s an ancient reckoning. But that is the Achilles of modernity. The question of how far back to we go paralyzes us because as Z lays out here, the false dilemma is the ratchet of progress.“If you love her you will set her free”. To chain her to the ancient, to take her rights, to limit her options must be hateful.The Right reared it’s cuckoo head long ago when the manosphere first emerged. Nothing has changed in that regard.
ray #386367 January 18, 2024 8:30 am 0
Sir Lawrence —Wow can you preach it up! Glad you’re on my side. The strong men are.‘The eternal earthy problem of female temptation unbridled by male abdication of headship.’Yessir. This is the problem. It is not going away, but instead increases. God is NOT going to intervene in this particular issue and ‘make it all better’. Throwing asses out of Eden — and keeping them out — showed that.Your comment is so important to this readership, I hope it does not get buried by newer posts. Also, in response to a question by LITS, I expanded on this issue above on this thread.
Jack Dodson #386165 January 17, 2024 10:34 am 0
” But the primary reason WHY ‘conservatives’ NEVER punish the Woke-Fem Politburo for tyranny and totalitarianism is because the Right is masculine and the Left is feminine.”I think it is the exact opposite. Acceptance of false premises as a means to achieve compromise is the ultimate feminine move. Modern conservatism is drenched in estrogen. It is its Achilles heel.I agree the specific programs and goals the Left advocates are “feminine” in the sense they are anti-male, but their means to attain their goals are quite masculine: set out the terms and force opponents to accept those parameters.The problem is the Left is a throbbing penis and the contemporary Right receives it with provisos that often don’t even include dinner. Even though he failed consistently to follow through with action, Trump rhetorically rejected the premises. That’s the reason he was hated. Imagine if he actually did anything substantive.The male delivers the terms, the female decides how to accept them. Which of those is the Left?
c matt #386179 January 17, 2024 11:18 am 0
Agree – the left may talk feminine but acts more masculine because it is effective – look at what they are doing (and will do) to Trump; look at what they did with Summer of Floyd and J6ers. The right talks masculine but acts feminine – extremely ineffective. Hasn’t accomplished a thing of note in decades. The left wants to eliminate its opponents; the right wants some faggoty “coexistence.”
ray #386371 January 18, 2024 8:39 am 0
Jack Dodson — ‘Modern conservatism is drenched in estrogen. It is its Achilles heel.’ Obviously, both Left and Right are ‘drenched in estrogen’. And yes, the modern Left uses masculine hyper-aggressiveness, intimidation and violence to achieve its ends. But that’s a given, as the Left is largely a bunch of women wanting to be men, and failing. They’re aping of masculinity is guaranteed to be tyrannical, totalitarian, and inverted. An onion isn’t a Jeep Wrangler. I’m not sure where you are disagreeing with me but, whatever.
Mycale #386143 January 17, 2024 9:14 am 0
I read Rufo’s tweet. It’s impossible to win elections or build a base of support talking like this. Nobody really cares about Griggs vs. Duke Power Company unless it is your job to care about it. Guys like Rufo have no answer when some BLM activist calls him a racist besides stammering under his breath “no…. I’m not….”. This is one reason why the conservative always loses. People vote for the conservative nerd who talks like this and assume he is going to take care of it, because the voters are either too stupid or too busy to care about all these details. Well, the conservative doesn’t take care of it, and nothing happens. This is why people like, sorry Z, Nick Fuentes, are building support amongst zoomers and alphas. They talk in clear and definitive language. They don’t mince words. They say that White people deserve to have a home of their own and don’t want to live in a non-White country and deserve a say in it. That’s really it. It’s simple language that people up and down the IQ spectrum can grasp, and more importantly, people intuitively grasp as fair. Of course you can’t say that and get the sinecures that Rufo gets, which is the point.There’s also a false choice here because if you sign up with Rufo’s side, you are also signing up as a Zionist. Chris Rufo was instrumental in getting Claudine Gay fired after Bill Ackman targeted him. So the political system as is tells you to either throw your lot in with black and Hispanic activists who want you dead, or Jews who want you dead. You’re basically the deciding the timeline in which you and your family are raped, killed, and your graves are desecrated.
Jack Dodson #386175 January 17, 2024 10:55 am 0
Ackman is a hyper hypocritical fraud and Rufo is his castrated toadie. I already see signs that Ackman wants to return to the status quo of anti-white hatred with an exception carved out for white-presenting Jews. Rufo will have to contort himself to promote this reversion to the mean, but he will do so on command.
Mycale #386202 January 17, 2024 11:57 am 0
Glenn Greenwald has made this case explicitly on recent shows. They have no interest in abolishing DEI, just expanding it to make sure it includes Jews. This was made obvious and explicit when Jonathan Greenblatt and the ADL made a principled stand to ensure that Jews are counted as a diverse group in a field that they have long struggled to gain representation in, that being entertainment and Hollywood. Rufo is going to be left out in the cold when Ackman tells him “nah, we’re good with DEI, go away LMAO” and wondering where it all went wrong, as so many other conservatives have over the decades when they thought aligning with Jews was the smart tactical play at the time.
Jack Dodson #386216 January 17, 2024 12:12 pm 0
This case has been quite transparent. It is not unlike the ongoing ethnic cleansing of Palestinians being applauded while the far-less inhumane Ukraine war, in the sense of massacring civilians, is held up as the ultimate exemplar of evil.My favorite part of this episode so far was when Ackman’s wife also was exposed, likely by MIT, as a plagiarizer, and the lame defense has been “don’t attack family members!” There is a chance this becomes too acrimonious to result in an exception carved out. That’s normally not the way to be but thus far it is where this is going.
Steve #386279 January 17, 2024 2:41 pm 0
“My favorite part of this episode so far was when Ackman’s wife also was exposed, likely by MIT, as a plagiarizer…” Meh. Never been big on thetu quoquefallacy. I don’t have any idea who Ackerman or his wife are, but I’m guessing he didn’t propose to her on the basis of her academic writings.
Jeffrey Zoar #386218 January 17, 2024 12:16 pm 0
Hollywood establishing a jewish quota can only reduce the number of jews working in tinseltown. I don’t see any other way that can play out. The recent cry for one appears to be a signal of how retarded the hollywood jews have become.
Whiskey #386252 January 17, 2024 1:26 pm 0
That is the goal, it is no longer possible. Various groups, Diverse, Alphabet+, Woke Upper Class White women, are not going to let (((certain people))) back into power after they have been purged mostly: Hollywood, Academia, Government, much of Finance, etc.Ackman is running scared, he knows independent hedge funds are next on the list. There is an ever growing amount of the Diverse and ever fewer places for them to be Big Shots at; having won the victories over Dirt People it would always escalate to (((big shots))).Look at say, Disney. Who is directing the new Star Wars movie? Some Pakistani activist with zero big budget experience. NOT Steven Spielberg, or some other big time director. Disney is run by diverse and empowered people, not (((people))). That is the logical and inevitable endpoint of DEI. The Diverse get a say. THE say. The (((people))) may have plans, schemes, everyone has a plan per Mike Tyson until they get punched in the face.
Jack Dodson #386267 January 17, 2024 2:06 pm 0
It’s certainly going in that direction, Whiskey. I normally would bet differently, but not without odds in this case. The Tribe excels at foot-shooting, so perhaps I shouldn’t be as surprised as I am. Finance indeed is next. Jamie Dimond knows it. Larry Fink knows it. Bill Ackman knows it. Janet Yellen is trying to find an alternative carve out.
Karl Horst Germany #386142 January 17, 2024 9:12 am 0
Unfortunately America has a history of “my way or the highway” which was brutally imposed on the indigenous peoples from the time Europeans showed up, until the late 1800’s. To be fair, every expanding empires imposed this method on the locals so this isn’t criticism, rather a statement of fact.Now the shoe is on the other foot, and the whites are being told it is they who must comply. Europe used to look to the West, and specifically the US, as to what the future held. Now we all have a front row seat to what’s coming into our own back yards.
Jannie #386158 January 17, 2024 10:28 am 0
South Africa is what’s coming. But the Whites are thriving there. A different breed. Maybe it’s that soy-free, biltong-rich diet.
Maus #386185 January 17, 2024 11:24 am 0
Biltong for the win. Eye of round is $3.99 a pound this week at the butcher’s. Time to get the malt vinegar and coriander and start a big batch.
Ostei Kozelskii #386333 January 17, 2024 5:11 pm 0
I’ve never made biltong. If you don’t mind, what’s your recipe and method?
Compsci #386308 January 17, 2024 3:36 pm 0
The Whites are thriving there? Never heard that one. Yes, some Whites remain intact in their reinforced communities, but what about the murders of hundreds (thosands?) of farmers and those Whites now without jobs and living in squalid camps? Not to mention living under governments that openly threatened Whites remaining with genocide.
Compsci #386237 January 17, 2024 12:42 pm 0
Yep, the US is now a “good example of a bad example”. 😉
TomC #386141 January 17, 2024 8:49 am 0
Mao, on his Great March, had to go through a lot of minority areas. He promised them independence for support. Chinese communism has a phrase that translates “avoid Han Chauvinism!. So China is in theory colorblind, but in practice, not. Same applies to females.
john smyth #386144 January 17, 2024 9:21 am 0
Mao also knew how to add . . . an atomic war might kill 300 million Chinese but China would remain the most populous on earth.https://www.upi.com/Archives/1964/10/17/Maos-theory-on-atomic-bomb-They-cant-kill-us-all/1653831424805/
Jannie #386160 January 17, 2024 10:30 am 0
Han Chinese are very tribal. There’s even a place of ancestor worship (“Grove of the Yellow Emperor”) where you cannot enter unless you are of the Chinese race. I know this from an old China hand.
Evil Sandmich #386174 January 17, 2024 10:53 am 0
They’re descended from a long line of government-imposed famine survivors so they never remove more than one foot from their clan network.


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