Green Door Content: Annie Hall

Note: By the time this posts, I will be on the roof of the new place with the chimney man getting things ready for the new woodstove. I had the flue inspected and that is fine, but the cap needs attention and I am having the flue cleaned just to be sure. The following is a post from behind the green door to hold everyone over until I return, assuming I do not fall off the roof. If there is no Friday post, it has been fun.


If I were tasked with writing a summary of the classic Woody Allen movie, Annie Hall, I would be hard pressed to get past a paragraph. It is film starring a neurotic Jewish man, played by Woody Allen, and a mentally unstable woman, played by Diane Keeton, who wander around New York for ninety minutes speaking to one another as if they swallowed a 1970’s pop-psychology textbook.

The movie reminds me of the old quip about the James Joyce novel Ulysses. “A Jewish man who wanders around Dublin and nothing happens.” That is not a criticism. In fact, it is the best thing I can think of to say about the film. There is a chance that Allen was inspired by the Joyce novel and was attempting to recreate it for a New York audience, from an entirely Jewish perspective. Joyce is mentioned in this scene.

I did some digging around to see if maybe that was what Allen was doing with this film, but I found nothing to suggest it. Despite its status as a classic film and one of Allen’s best works, there is not much in the way of critical analysis. That is because there is not much to examine when it comes to things you expect in a story. It is just two neurotic Manhattanites wandering around for ninety minutes.

The film is classed as a romantic comedy, but it is probably better to call it a character study or perhaps an anthropological study. It is primarily about two people, presented as representative of the cultural elite of the time, as they struggle with their various insecurities and disconnectedness. Comedian Alvy Singer, (Allen) and Annie Hall (Keaton) are struggling with alienation in the modern age.

Alienation is the subtext of the film, but it is not entirely clear that Allen had the self-awareness to know this. Alvy Singer is the typical Jewish character struggling with his otherness in a world dominated by non-Jews. Allen hams it up quite a bit to the point where Alvy Singer is a satire of the Jewish guy who is sure that around every corner there could be a gang of Nazis ready to haul him away to the camps.

Once you get past the hyperbole, you get to the essential reality of the Jewish condition, at least as Jews see it, which is that they are always a people who dwell alone, regardless of where they find themselves. Who they are is defined by their outsider status so they must remain as outsiders or risk losing their identity. It is the essential contradiction at the heart of Jewish identity in the diaspora.

Alienation takes on a different form with Annie. She is presented as from a standard issue white middle-class family. At one point, Alvy jokes that she grew up in a Norman Rockwell painting. She is the modern atomized female, a creature of both feminism and the modern economy, who sees a therapist and spends most of her time dwelling on trivialities to escape from the loneliness of her life.

The two of them sort of fall in love, but their relationship does not work because of the self-absorption rooted in their alienation. Alvy only thinks about sex, while Annie has no interest in sex. In both cases, this leads to endless self-examination that is entirely superficial and pointless. These are two people who are alienated from themselves, so it is why they cannot have a normal human relationship.

Sadly, that analysis is far more interesting than the film version. Both characters are boring and self-indulgent. There is no reason to care about them because you have met these stock figures loads of times in film and real life. Annie is a neurotic dingbat who every man over thirty has met a thousand times. Allen is the classic Jewish guy who thinks his endless complaining makes him seem interesting.

That is the main problem with the film. It wants to be a social commentary, but it has nothing to say about the things featured in the film. You get some pithy commentary from Alvie who breaks the fourth wall throughout the film, but those are just gag lines that Allen used in his stand-up. Otherwise, you have no reason to care about the people, so you have no reason to think about their dilemma.

In this regard it is like other movies of this decade in that they were made by people who held themselves in high regard, so they just assumed anything they did or said was important by itself. They made films that were supposed to lead the horse to water, but it was hard to care about the horse, so the water never came into focus. Whatever Allen was trying to say about his time and place in this film remained unsaid.

That said, the film is visually interesting. Even after fifty years it feels like you are there in Manhattan with Alvy and Annie. You often think you can smell the stench of the urine-soaked hobos, which were a feature of the city at the time. This may be why the film shows up on the top-100 list, rather than other Woody Allen films which were graded higher at the time in terms of artistic merit.

In the end, Annie Hall feels like a professionally made film school project in that it is self-indulgent and the person doing the self-indulging is not that interesting. Woody Allen’s hang-ups and insecurities are interesting to no one but Woody Allen. A film about them, not matter how well done, is still just a film about a boring Jewish man who spends ninety minutes walking around Manhattan with an equally boring shiksa.


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210 Comments

Mencken Libertarian #382645 December 21, 2023 8:05 am 1
“It’s OK. We can walk to the curb from here.”
joey jünger #382869 December 22, 2023 2:22 pm 0
Well, it’s Friday and there’s no new post, so it’s safe to assume Z slipped and fell off the roof. Sad, that his last post was a review of neurotic nebbish Woody Allen’s film. It reminds me of what Charles Bukowski once said about his own potential demise by slipping and cracking his head on the apron of his swimming pool. “That’s not even an ignoble ending. That’s just entirely being sh*t on by the gods.”
Mike #382826 December 22, 2023 9:57 am 0
Am I the only one to think Keaton is a blot everywhere she is found? No charm, no appeal, no subtlety, no looks. What did Allen but especially Coppola see in her?
Intelligent Dasein #382827 December 22, 2023 10:05 am 0
Well, since Coppola never intended forThe Godfatherto be anything more than an Italexploitation whinge, maybe making the white woman as bland and uppity as possible was part of the desired aesthetic.
Robbo #382830 December 22, 2023 10:22 am 0
The Godfather: the film that cured my insomnia.
RDittmar #382855 December 22, 2023 12:37 pm 0
Bah to the downvotes! I completely agree! I’ve only fallen asleep during two movies in my entire life. One of them wasThe Gods Must Be Crazyand the other one wasThe Godfather.
Anti-Gnostic #383110 December 26, 2023 7:57 pm 0
I fell asleep trying to watch Eyes Wide Shut, twice. The third time I turned it off before I got sleepy.
Hun #382828 December 22, 2023 10:10 am 0
Almost everybody looks pretty good next to Allen.
Hun #382824 December 22, 2023 9:47 am 0
“…assuming I do not fall off the roof. If there is no Friday post, it has been fun.” Usually, there is a post out by this time. Hello?
mmack #382825 December 22, 2023 9:53 am 0
YOU try typing while in full body cast, hanging in traction. 🤕 In all seriousness, I hope it’s more “Oh CRAP! I HAVE to finish my Christmas Shopping!” and less Z getting hurt. 🤞
Apex Predator #382858 December 22, 2023 1:04 pm 0
I think that was a piss take to keep you guessing since he often doesn’t post before a holiday weekend. If he doesn’t reappear by next week then we should probably put out an APB at that point.
Ploppy #382865 December 22, 2023 1:47 pm 0
See, this is why I paid someone else to do my drip edge.
Kevin #382815 December 22, 2023 8:28 am 0
I wonder what the Zman thinks about Taxi Driver from 1976. When describing New York from the 70s in this article, I kept being reminded of Taxi Driver.
KGB #382816 December 22, 2023 8:33 am 0
He reviewed Taxi Driver just a couple months ago. Not impressed.
Robbo #382831 December 22, 2023 10:23 am 0
One of those “cult” films that everyone raves about. Then, when you finally get to see it, you think “WTF was all the fuss about?”
Jeffrey Zoar #382840 December 22, 2023 10:42 am 0
Like Blue Velvet. Take away the Dennis Hopper character who is on screen for maybe 15 minutes and it is downright awful.
Eloi #382853 December 22, 2023 12:19 pm 0
Dude, I like Blue Velvet a lot. Lynch is probably my favorite director, even though I cannot stand 1/2 of his output. But when he does nail it, he produces unparalled Romanticism.
Axeman #382814 December 22, 2023 7:59 am 0
Woodburning spergout incoming:The powerdrill driven ‘Sooteater’ devices are the tits.Woodsplitting in crisp late fall/winter air is excellent exercise and oddly mind settling but the wood won’t be good til Spring shoulder season, at the earliest.If using a masonry chimney, an insulated metal chimney liner will draft better and maybe save your house in the case of a chimney fire. Almost nobody installs them that way.The new hybrid stoves combine catalysts and re-burn chambers to make the most of your fuel. Very efficient . Much less acrid smoke. Not that WV gets all that cold.
Brandon Laskow #382812 December 22, 2023 12:39 am 0
A little sidelight: in the 90’s the Allman Brothers Band and side project Gov’t Mule had a bassist named Allen Woody. For years I assumed that was a stage name, a joke played by a Southern boy to parody the name of a famous New York Jew. In fact, it was his real name, full name Douglas Allen Woody. Unfortunately this Woody OD’d in 2000.
ChrisZ #382806 December 21, 2023 8:04 pm 0
One observation by Z-man in this column stood out to me as probably anachronistic; namely that “Annie Hall feels like a professionally made film school project…”Closer to the truth, I suspect, is that film school projects are the way they are—indulgent, solipsistic, meaningless—because Woody Allen set the tone first. In other words, the thematic “nothingness” of today’s culture (in film and the arts generally) is an index of the *triumph* of the Woody Allen perspective over what had existed in America before.That even goes for today’s politics. What was the whole Covid fiasco if not a total capitulation to the nervous, paranoid attitudes embodied in Allen’s characters? Back in 2020, if they had replaced Drs. Fauci and Birx with Alvie Singer and Annie Hall, would there have been any difference in policy?
Gideon #382842 December 22, 2023 11:02 am 0
The ruling Chinese Communist Party has had a practice of imposing quarantines of varying degrees whenever a new communicable disease emerged there. It’s part of a governing ideology that imagines it can solve any social problem that may attract their attention. COVID was unusual only insofar as Western countries (and eventually most of the world) decided they should emulate communist Chinese practices for some reason.
Ostei Kozelskii #382843 December 22, 2023 11:31 am 0
You may have something there. Jewish neurosis and feminine hysteria seem to pervade the very atmosphere we breathe in AINO.
LineInTheSand #382850 December 22, 2023 12:01 pm 0
I tend to agree. Many dissidents assumed that the cov1d policies were primarily about advancing permanent totalitarian control. But as damaging and threatening as those policies were, they were not permanent. I’m sure that there is some truth there. Elites like Bill Gates had written about how to exploit the next pandemic and Big Pharma always wants to secure permanent extraction schemes. But my guess is that the most consequential factor was the hypochondria of our elites, chosen and female.
Jeffrey Zoar #382856 December 22, 2023 12:49 pm 0
Some folks separate that out to the real “elites” and their useful idiots. Of course the “elite” are powerless without their idiots.
SkepticMan #382803 December 21, 2023 6:54 pm 0
Does anyone here get the deep irony of this blog post? The Zman goes to the store, buys some stuff, goes home, takes care of the cats, cooks some food, and repairs the house. Then the next day he blogs about it– what happened in the drive thru lane, what happened when he cancelled his online order, why the hardware store is better, which fast food is better, and so on.Do you get it yet? The Zman is Alvy Singer. The Zman is Leopold Bloom. Or maybe The Zman is the grown-up version of Stephen Dedalus – the anti-hero, the white catholic educated man who is too smart to believe in religious fantasies but who still longs for a moral authority in society.Nothing happens in the movie. Nothing happens in the novel. And nothing happens in a blog.
Epaminondas #382808 December 21, 2023 8:16 pm 0
Are you sure you’re at the right blogsite? Asking for a friend.
SkepticMan #382809 December 21, 2023 8:45 pm 0
I may have blended some of The Zman’s Gab posts into my description of his daily routine, but the idea still holds. Blogging is generally a mind dump of someone’s inner monologue. James Joyce’s Ulysses is the archetype of this form. I just find it ironic when bloggers level the criticism that nothing happens in Ulysses when everything they do was invented by Joyce.Annie Hall is a 1970s’ version of the Joycean inner monologue without the depth. Allen is primarily a comedian, and the movie should only be seen as a series of comedy sketches on film. Some of the sketches are funny, and some aren’t.
Ostei Kozelskii #382844 December 22, 2023 11:34 am 0
What isn’t a mind dump? Columns, novels, poems, songs, symphonies, paintings, blogs–all, in a very real sense, are mind dumps. Not much of a criticism of Z, then.
Mr. Blank #382801 December 21, 2023 6:08 pm 0
Well, I’ll have to dissent from Z-man here. I’m a huge Woody Allen fan, and I love Annie Hall. But I’m an art school weirdo, so…And no, I’m not Jewish or anything close to it. That’s the funny part. I’m an old-stock American whose ancestors fought in the Revolution. Woody Allen and his ilk probably think my people are trash. So why do I like his movies?I don’t know. Maybe for the same reason I liked reading articles about weird foreign tribes in National Geographic, back when it was still a good magazine. I find Jewish narcissism fascinating because it’s so exotic, compared to what I’m used to.
ChrisZ #382804 December 21, 2023 7:04 pm 0
I know what you mean, Mr. Blank. I’ve gotten a lot of genuine laughs out of Allen’s films over the years (though not so much since his turn to open perversity in the early 1990s).My youthful experience, as a Christian going to his movies with Jewish friends, was that we could all enjoy the given movie in the moment. But the difference in perspective showed itself when we left the theater. My friends would be going on about how Woody was so wise and “knows so much about relationships.” To me, on the other hand, his characters were a textbook of what NOT to do; a negative example, not a positive one to emulate. That’s what I found so funny about them.Forty years on, life experiences among us have borne out the “wisdom” of using Allen as a positive or negative role model. I still laugh at films like Sleeper, Love and Death, and Broadway Danny Rose. But it’s tinged with bitterness over the self-destructive path on which he led some of my dear friends.
Robbo #382832 December 22, 2023 10:26 am 0
Love and Death, Zelig, great comedy classics. As I mentioned earlier, Allen was the classic neurotic leftie Jew, but he also took the piss out of it too.
Frank #382810 December 21, 2023 9:52 pm 0
Sorry state of affairs when guys feel like they have to supply a pedigree with their unpopular opinion.
KGB #382817 December 22, 2023 8:37 am 0
It was eminently more foreign at the time of this movie, but now that Jewish neuroticism has became the foundation of our culture it’s not so funny anymore.
Ostei Kozelskii #382845 December 22, 2023 11:38 am 0
Ha. Good point. And I think my fascination mirrors your own. Tangentially, have you ever noticed that Jewish filmmakers, when portraying white families, very frequently project Jewish familial dysfunctionality on them? White families are almost always portrayed as squabbling, obnoxious and shrewish. The classic example is the Neary family in Spielberg’s “Close Encounters.” Great film, BTW.
ChrisZ #382849 December 22, 2023 11:57 am 0
Yes Ostei, a solid insight. The other tactic is to portray gentile family life as emotionless, repressed, hypocritical, inhuman—with passions of hostility, sexuality, and violence simmering just below the placid surface. This was, IIRC, the case with Annie’s family in the film under examination. (It results in some memorable bits, though, like Woody being perceived as a Hasidic Jew by Annie’s grandma, or Christopher Walken as the brother driving a nervous Woody to the airport after confessing his death wish of ramming his car into oncoming traffic.)Allen does this in most of his other films too. But never, even in his “serious” films, shows Christian family life as wholesome, mutually supportive, sincerely loving, and capable of sustaining virtue and decency across generations.As I wrote elsewhere on this thread, this dark portrayal really has become the default setting of the way the “intellectual” and “artistic” class regard family life in this country. Another “triumph” of the Woody Allen perspective over the older American culture.
Ostei Kozelskii #382859 December 22, 2023 1:25 pm 0
Indeed. And how ’bout Norman Lear’s Bunker family in All in the Family? A funny sitcom, but it’s also nothing more than 25-minute episodic shouting matches. Who could stand to live like that? Jews, I guess. And yet the family is white. Even Meathead Rob Reiner is a Polack rather than a Jew, IIRC.
Jeffrey Zoar #382863 December 22, 2023 1:41 pm 0
Sounds a lot like American Beauty. Which was about when I tuned Hollywood out.
Ploppy #382866 December 22, 2023 2:08 pm 0
Well, people who are “like that” don’t really believe that normal people can exist. So when they see a happy family they assume it’s some kind of American Beauty charade, and there must be all this seething hostility beneath the surface. Just like how they think every upper middle class white man has a secret Nazi room behind the bookshelf in his office where he keeps his shrine to mustache guy.
Ostei Kozelskii #382871 December 22, 2023 2:50 pm 0
I’m more of a general Franco man, myself…
Ploppy #382795 December 21, 2023 4:32 pm 0
When you start stacking up that firewood, grab some of those pallets that warehouses leave out for scavengers to stack the wood on. The airflow underneath helps cure the wood faster and doesn’t give the termites a path from the ground to your wood.
Jay Fink #382788 December 21, 2023 4:10 pm 0
I am Jewish but am rarely around other Jews so perhaps my impression is wrong. It seems there are less Woody Allen type Jewish men today than there were in the 70s, both in and out of Hollywood. Have Jewish men toughened up and become more like gentile men? If so this saddens me. When I saw (Jewish) Maroon 5 singer Adam Levine at a Superbowl half time show with his muscular, tattooed body it horrified me. Jewish men never used to look hypermasculine before. Hopefully he is an outlier.
Ploppy #382796 December 21, 2023 4:33 pm 0
Try watching PBS there’s plenty.
KGB #382797 December 21, 2023 4:34 pm 0
There’s more humor in this post than in Woody Allen’s collected works. Score one for the Gentiles.
cg2 #382798 December 21, 2023 5:40 pm 0
I think you’re confusing hypermasculine with hyper narcissistic.
Paintersforms #382854 December 22, 2023 12:31 pm 0
Hyper gay, maybe. Not saying Levine is gay (I have no idea). Views of masculinity tend towards feminine caricature these days. Unsurprisingly.
Ostei Kozelskii #382860 December 22, 2023 1:27 pm 0
No idea about Levine, and I couldn’t care less about him. Unfortunately, his band–the Maroons, or whatever they’re called–have been inflicted upon me several times. Ghastly and dull. What a terrible band.
Ploppy #382867 December 22, 2023 2:13 pm 0
Well at least from a google search I’d say he looks pretty gay with those tattoos. Doesn’t he sing in a falsetto too?
Penitent Man #382829 December 22, 2023 10:18 am 0
Possibly. They seem to have shed Allen’s lack of confidence and self-centered indecisiveness in their hellbent dash to subvert and pervert Our People and culture.
Filthie #382776 December 21, 2023 2:08 pm 0
All I gotta say is that our otherwise esteemed blog host really shat the bed on this poast. Any discussion of culture that includes Woody is not going to go or end well. In hopes of redeeming any cultural enrichMINT – let us turn instead to Z’s older brother – Corniglius Rye! https://www.instagram.com/reel/C03yOn4IITa/?igsh=MTc4MmM1YmI2Ng%3D%3D 😂👍
Brandon Laskow #382783 December 21, 2023 3:20 pm 0
Like Woody or not, he’s an important figure in late 20th century American culture and still on the scene, so he’s very much worth discussing.
Cinnaphile #382789 December 21, 2023 4:11 pm 0
I am not surprised this triggered many readers over here, don’t know about the Substack adult theater thing because I don’t pay for it… Allen has made so many random movies, that I can always remember a few terrible ones (“Deconstructing Harry”—so bad I wondered how he kept not only working after this, but still drawing big names) and a few eccentric enjoyable ones (“Sweet and Lowdown”—this switching from being an NYC Judaism nerd to olde timey jazz nerd). But I haven’t seen all his major-opus movies, such as this one, and at 44 I doubt I will get around to it. When I was younger I thought I liked the earlier slapstick entries like “Bananas” and “Sleeper” but now I find them awkward and strange (because he somehow became Serious Filmmaker between then and some time in the 80s— this does not compute). There is such lack of compelling unity to his oeuvre, nothing to latch onto, that you can be assures normies only associate him with personal family gossip away from the camera, which admittedly was quite weird by late 20th Century standards.
Vince #382770 December 21, 2023 1:44 pm 0
For me the worst of Woody Allen’s films, and that in itself is saying something, is one called “The Front”. When I was 20 or 21 I would occasionally hang out with an avant garde crowd of hippy wannabies who would leave the safety of Delaware Co. Pa. and cruise into center city Philly for one of the bullshit offerings of Allen (and someone calling himself Fellini who just plain sucked) of the middle nineteen seventies.Even at the inexperienced age of 21 I remember coming out of the theater after viewing “The Front” and feeling the need for a stiff drink. To my disgust, the hippies were rhapsodizing over this film and, while normally tolerant of their lunatic ideas, I exploded. “Why on earth does anyone care? Oh dear, a commie got blacklisted. He should have been expelled. I’m GLAD he went to prison, I hope the sequel shows his rotting skeleton there!”And so on. I stopped hanging around them at that time. Fellini was another lost cause they gushed over. As Zman might say, “my goodness, these people.”
Ploppy #382790 December 21, 2023 4:16 pm 0
I don’t even think this is a particular thing to any given generation. As a Xennial I went to plenty of these sorts of films with pretentious liberal friends back in the 2000s. You had brokebutt mountain and that one film with Clooney and Dr. Bashir from Star Trek that was something about middle eastern politics. Shitlibs just go to those movies to look fashionable.
Ostei Kozelskii #382846 December 22, 2023 11:43 am 0
You actually watched Brokeback Mountin’? Bloody hell. Talk about taking one for the team!
Ploppy #382868 December 22, 2023 2:17 pm 0
It’s one of those movies that’s really funny because it’s trying so hard not to be funny. But its gay cowboys so it’s intrinsically funny.
Ostei Kozelskii #382872 December 22, 2023 2:52 pm 0
Starring Butch Assidy and the Funpants Kid?
Vizzini #382925 December 23, 2023 12:02 am 0
They were gay shepherds, not cowboys.
Ostei Kozelskii #382847 December 22, 2023 11:48 am 0
You actually watched Brokeback Mountin’? Bloody hell. Talk about taking one for the team!
Pozymandias #382805 December 21, 2023 7:19 pm 0
I’ve never seen that particular abomination but there are tons of these kinds of movies. It’s a whole genre to itself in fact. The basic plot is “wretched commie shitbag FINALLY gets arrested by the Gestapo, Franco’s men, Pinochet’s men, the Iranian religious police, or whatever local group is trying to keep their country from becoming part of the Glorious Purple Dildo Soviet Republics.” Thankfully, the arrest is usually in the first 5 minutes. Mournfully, the next 3 – 5 hours of the movie is all faggy-noir camera angles of our Hero Shitbagsky starting at the shadows on his cell wall. Just to keep the audience awake they occasionally have an interlude to show just how not-nice the jailers are. In a final act of mercy for the audience they eventually march Shitbagsky out to the prison yard and shoot him – Fin!The recent movie Oppenheimer is a modern take on this theme. True devotees of the genre will find that at 3 hours it’s way too short. They do a marvelous job of faggy-noir though with this weird spinning abstract atom thingie that makes a buzzing sound. Hint: that’s the highlight of the movie.
Celt Darnell #382765 December 21, 2023 1:24 pm 0
To be fair. James Joyce’s Ulysses has all the same problems. Except that it’s even more pretentious. And it takes far longer than 90 minutes to wade through.
Hemid #382811 December 21, 2023 10:59 pm 0
Ulysses might be the second or third most lied about book of all time, but Joyce himself never pretended it was anything that it isn’t. It’s unpretentious to a fault. Its refusal to explain itself—there aren’t even chapter titles!—is *textual* (if not authorial) humility. He left it too easy for academics, critics, and other non-readers to misrepresent.Allen’s films are often nothing like he claims them—or like sometimes they claim themselves, out loud in the middle of the damn movie—to be, because by inclination he’s a film critic/scholar/mocker, not a filmmaker.I love a few of his movies, but they’re all bullshit.
fakeemail #382744 December 21, 2023 12:21 pm 0
CRIMES & MISDEMEANORS (1989) is Allen’s masterpiece. A great film, one of the best ever. “Hannah and Her Sisters” and “Radio Days” are also quite excellent. The man’s politics are of course what they are. But I’d be dishonest if I said he weren’t intelligent or wasn’t an artist (at least for a few flicks).
Snooze #382754 December 21, 2023 12:47 pm 0
Shiksa fetishizing.
Bourbon #382767 December 21, 2023 1:38 pm 0
I think Z hit the nail on the head, right here: “Alvy jokes that she grew up in a Norman Rockwell painting”.Do not misunderestimate the seething loathing obsessive all-consuming hatred which the j00z unleashed [and, to this day, continue to unleash] upon Norman Rockwell’s White Christian America.The j00ish race was invented, by the Father of Lies, precisely for the purpose of incinerating Norman Rockwell’s White Christian America.Once the j00z succeed in destroying all of Christendom, the j00ish race will lack any purpose to continue existing, and the j00ish race will focus its core existential vengeance upon itself & be obliterated.
Ploppy #382791 December 21, 2023 4:20 pm 0
You can see that in Israel prior to the second Shoah last October. The liberal and fascist Jews were gearing up for a good old one arm over the face slapfight with each other over whether or not Jewish Hitler is allowed to bypass their Supreme Court. They always need an external enemy to hold themselves together.
Robbo #382833 December 22, 2023 10:29 am 0
Are the Jews in the room with you now?
Bourbon #382870 December 22, 2023 2:46 pm 0
Robbo: “Are the Jews in the room with you now?”Well you’re definitely on my computer screen right now, which, in turn, is sitting right here in my computer room.So, yeah, I guess your existential vengeance knows no bounds.And, no, you didn’t invent the internet; WHITE people invented the internet. Just like WHITE people invented electricity, trains, automobiles, airplanes, logic, mathematics, chemistry, physics, computers, painting, sculpture, music, indoor plumbing, toilet paper, wine, whiskey, bourbon, the telescope, the microscope, the moon landings, the X-Ray, sterile operating rooms, antibiotics, heat treatment of dairy products, and pretty much everything else which was ever invented on this earth.I wish I could add, “vaccines” as something noble which White people had invented, but from (((Albert Sabin))) to (((Robert Langer))) to (((Albert Bourla))) to (((Rochelle Walensky))) & (((Mandy Cohen))), you j00z have mμrdered so many human beings via vaccines that we White people can no longer include vaccines as one of our crowning achievements.
John Barrywhore #382773 December 21, 2023 1:53 pm 0
The trouble with Woody Allen movies is that they star Woody Allen. If he was an occasionally seen background character watching might not be such a grind. I don’t want to hear that voice of look at that Phantom of the Opera face of his. Hire a decent looking goy to wander off in the sunset with a ln Asian girl at the end. Woody’s life in pictures. Might make a buck
Brandon Lasko #382784 December 21, 2023 3:26 pm 0
Woody has not appeared in most of his films from this century.
Bourbon #382882 December 22, 2023 3:26 pm 0
Brandon Lasko: “Woody has not appeared in most of his films from this century.” Well he got cuckolded by a septuagenarian Frank Sinatra. [Frank, born December 12, 1915;Ronan, born December 19, 1987] That’s gotta hurt.
Jannie #382782 December 21, 2023 3:15 pm 0
“Zelig”, “Another Woman” and “Sweet and Lowdown” were also decent movies. Best Woody Allen rip-off was “When Harry Met Sally”: Billy Crystal doesn’t really cut it. Carrie Fisher always a star presence, though.
RasQball #382818 December 22, 2023 9:09 am 0
Martin Landau as a Murderer, yeah:Don’t let Dostoyevsky get in the way –(I saw that one at the Parts Theater…)
RasQball #382819 December 22, 2023 9:09 am 0
Paris Theater, NYC…
Compsci #382736 December 21, 2023 12:04 pm 0
“Anne Hall…..”Did someone reference the 70‘s version of Seinfeld? A comedy about nothing? Well, not nothing—just a show following the antics of a group of self-absorbed characters going about their selfish lives in the Big Apple. Oddly enough this show was also developed by a couple of Jews.I liked Anne Hall at the time, but times change as one grows up and understands how nihilistic the entire “plot” is. My youthful angst has been replaced by experiential understanding, aka “wisdom”. To support this point, I’d point out that Allen attempted to repeat his Anne Hall success a couple of decades later with limited success. His die hard fans welcomed the movie, but its success was limited as society had moved on from the 70’s. Boomers grew up?On the other hand, Seinfeld seems to have found a niche. Perhaps it was the lack of neuroticism on the part of the main Seinfeld characters wrt their behavior. Selfishness has been normalized as an accepted value, while Christianity has been removed from center stage in our society. Allen and (((company))) have been wildly successful.
Ploppy #382792 December 21, 2023 4:23 pm 0
Seinfeld worked because the characters routinely screwed themselves over for their own selfishness, so the show actually did have a moral to it despite the complaints at the time from people used to those dull 80s sitcoms where Billy cheats on his algebra test and his dad gives him a stern talking to.
Crabe-tambour #382864 December 22, 2023 1:45 pm 0
“Oddly enough!”
3g4me #382727 December 21, 2023 11:54 am 0
Congratulations on getting ready for your woodstove install, Zman. There is nothing like the warmth it puts out. Same for the feeling of security a well-filled woodshed inspires. I would be miserable without the a/c our mini-splits provide in the humid summers here, but I could survive without them. Whereas I know no matter the storm or interruption in electricity or lack of propane for the Generac (Heaven forfend), I need not worry about freezing.
cg2 #382749 December 21, 2023 12:31 pm 0
That’s a dry heat, put a pot of water on top.And a mini splits are very efficient.
3g4me #382755 December 21, 2023 12:50 pm 0
cg2: Yes, thanks, I do know to do that (excellent neighbors plus watching YT). And we are currently using our efficient mini splits for heat because it’s just not cold enough for the wood stove. But we did use it one night about 3-4 weeks ago and house/cabin was quickly up to an uncomfortable 72 degrees (I keep it in the 65-68 range and we don’t expect to walk around in t-shirts in the winter).
Evil Sandmich #382752 December 21, 2023 12:41 pm 0
I’d like to have one, but we’d need another chimney and…well houses around here seem to go up in smoke at a higher rate than in the city.(The “fix” I know is an outside boiler, but I’m not doing that for a variety of very good reasons).
3g4me #382758 December 21, 2023 12:57 pm 0
Evil Sandmich: Fire is my one big worry out here – yet another reason I want an ICF house if we win the lottery. But our house/cabin is solid and has stood here for 25 years – even through a tornado, and neither my husband nor I smoke. And we already plan to replace the current serviceable asphalt shingled roof, when funds are available, with standing seam metal.
KGB #382763 December 21, 2023 1:10 pm 0
Have you priced a roof there, 3g? I had an asphalt tile roof put on my upstate NY residence about 10 years ago and it was more than $10K. In 2019 I had a metal roof put on a rental property and it was $9K. Both jobs were done by Amish crews. 2019 was around the first time that a metal roof was no more expensive than tile, which is why I went with it. I have no idea what the breakdown is today, though.
3g4me #382768 December 21, 2023 1:40 pm 0
KGB: Not yet, no. I fully expect it to be costly. We thought everything was in pretty good condition per the inspection we had done, and the previous owners of one year provided receipts proving they had the wood stove flue cleaned, the septic tank pumped, painted the exterior, and sold us the almost new Speed Queen washer and dryer they had installed.But we had to immediately replace the main mini-split (unexpected), the water heater (expected) the toilet (unexpected) and the kitchen sink plumbing (partially expected). So since the roof is not leaking, it’s going to have to wait. Just hope we can afford (and actually get material) when the need and opportunity arises. There are a lot of Mennonites in this area and Amish within a 100 mile radius. I don’t know who people use here (when they don’t do things themselves).Lots of wants but no immediate ‘needs.’ We have a solid roof, a wood stove, a well, a propane gas cook stove, a Generac, and a 1000 gallon propane tank. Not to mention fiber optic phone/internet way out here in the woods. Plus all the deer and wild turkeys and a killer view at the end of a dead-end road. We are blessed.
Evil Sandmich #382777 December 21, 2023 2:17 pm 0
The Amish around me all put in crazy roof bids (save one, whose work I wouldn’t trust on a bet). For the Englisher who put our roof on I think the metal came at a 20% premium of asphalt. The main motivator though was that our place stands alone on a wind tunnel and we knew shingles would inevitably be stripped at some point.
KGB #382799 December 21, 2023 5:45 pm 0
When you say they put in “crazy” bids, do you mean they are below market rates? Here they tend to charge average rates, but I generally like their work and they knock out their jobs quickly. An Englisher or Hispanic is prone to leaving a half-finished job for a period of time as they work on other projects. The Amish finish what they start.
OrangeFrog #382725 December 21, 2023 11:51 am 0
I must say I’ve never seen anything by Mr. Allen. Then again Z, from your analysis I trust I’m not missing much. There have been so many films and series that could have been more, but in the end are just vehicles for banality.Some of the most engrossing films/series I’ve ever watched include: Das Boot, The Sopranos, Band of Brothers, The Deer Hunter, Dad’s Army, and Downfall. They all give themselves full licence to develop certain characters, and have a reality about them that makes them interesting. They are a comment of the time in which they were made, but also the time in which they are set.For example, The Sopranos, whose original run was – I believe – from 1999 to 2007, captures a point in time where mobile phones existed and were commonplace, but smartphones did not! Think of what a tiny slice of time that really was, and I believe it significant, because the smartphones have upended things in so many ways. Changed things perhaps more drastically than even mobile phones did upon their initial arrival. It sounds daft, but it is the sort of thing I found fascinating about the series. It was also beautifully shot and very poignant at times. As a plus, it actually made an attempt to deal with the obvious racial rift between Italians and blacks in a smart and realistic way.As for Das Boot (1984), it managed to make four and a half hours of blokes in a metal tube incredibly fascinating. I could go on about it at length, but won’t; except to say that if nobody here has seen it, please do so – but I suspect I’m preaching to the choir.Personally, Mr. Allen’s appearance always annoyed me; so it was/is doubtful I shall make the effort with his film output.
Compsci #382739 December 21, 2023 12:10 pm 0
Das Boot is even more interesting when one understands the fatality numbers for the u-boats and those who served on them. No more dangerous branch existed in the Wehrmacht—not to mention the claustrophobic nature of most of us. 😉
OrangeFrog #382751 December 21, 2023 12:40 pm 0
Compsci, any book recommendations re: U-Boats and their crews’ experiences? I’ve suddenly had the urge to know more.
BerndV #382764 December 21, 2023 1:21 pm 0
Read the book by the same name that Das Boot was was based upon. It is a true story written by a German war journalist who accompanied the crew on several patrols.
compsci #382774 December 21, 2023 1:53 pm 0
Sorry, none. I’m just an oldster who’s watched/read some of the statistical summaries of the war. Father was also in the army in the old country as well. Oddly, those “over there” in my family seem to care little about reminiscing over events in that conflict. Celebrating the conflict in the movies and writings seems an American thing–if not Western in general. I believe their war experience taught them the *wrong* lesson.
mmack #382780 December 21, 2023 2:47 pm 0
Iron Coffins: A Personal Account Of The German U-boat Battles Of World War IIby Herbert A. Werner, which was used as a source for some of the movieDas Boat. Operation Drumbeat: Germany’s U-Boat Attacks Along the American Coast in World War IIby Michael Gannon. It tells the story of U-Boat ops off the East Coast from right after Germany declared war on the US until late 1942. The featured U-Boat, U-123 actually did have a reporter on the submarine for one of their missions, like the U-Boat inDas Boat.
Stephen Dowling Bots Decd #382813 December 22, 2023 6:55 am 0
Sharks And Little Fish, by Wolfgang Ott. The novel was written by a German submariner with firsthand experience. I believe Das Boot was written by a rider, a journalist who only spent a limited time on a U boat.
honky tonk hero #382766 December 21, 2023 1:25 pm 0
Many years ago I used to scuba dive on the wrecks of a couple U-boats off North Carolina, namely the U-352 and U-85. What struck me was how small they were and what it must have been like to cross the Atlantic in one.
compsci #382775 December 21, 2023 2:03 pm 0
Back in the 60’s, the fleet would every so often dock in NYC. They then had an open house and we once went downtown and got to tour the boats. Those days the fleet *still* had the diesel driven American sub’s. I got to go through one. Amazing experience even for a young boy. Forward were the torpedoes and each one had crew bunks along the side. Just like the movies. I remember being amazed at “hot bunking”. 😉The instrument panels were the most complex I’ve ever seen. Imagine a round pillar in the middle of the path with a couple of hundred gauges around it. What all was there to watch?
Robbo #382834 December 22, 2023 10:31 am 0
75% fatalities.
RasQball #382823 December 22, 2023 9:43 am 0
I was discussing Sopranos with a friend (in public) just the other day when a semi-rando Karen interrupted us with “That was 20 years ago! Can’t you guys talk about something more relevant…!”The point I was making at the time was that the show, the storyline, the arc, and especially the characters were a “swan song” for a “thing” – a colorful cross section of twentieth century Mosaic-Americana – that was sun-downing then, and has since become extinct (to all intents). And I’m not taking about criminality, I’m talking about a “way,” a “method.”That world was real – I spent the first half of my life in it (Brooklyn, not Jersey.). We were over-represented in 20th century Americana, and therefore very confident of our place in that culture and in its history.And today?Ubi Sunt!
Tars Tarkas #382714 December 21, 2023 11:31 am 0
I don’t think I have ever seen a single Woody Allen movie. If the YouTube trailer and the opening monologue are anything to go by, I’m not missing anything. It was made by and for a different audience.
Ostei Kozelskii #382711 December 21, 2023 11:28 am 0
Chim-chimeny/Chim-chimeny/Chim-chim-cheroo!
Jeffrey Zoar #382709 December 21, 2023 11:25 am 0
My own viewing of old movies continues, most recently The Mission (1986). Directed by Roland Joffe, who also gave us The Killing Fields and the Demi Moore version of The Scarlet Letter. So perhaps I should have known it would be disappointing relative to the billing. Of course any movie produced in the 1980s about colonials and natives……Other than the parts filmed at the Iguazu Falls there was little point in filming on location in South America, as the rest of it could have been done on a Hollywood backlot.But I did manage to learn a little history, Treaty of Madrid, Jesuit suppression, not really from the movie itself, but by following some links on its wikipedia page.
LineInTheSand #382695 December 21, 2023 10:39 am 0
Although my interest in Woody Allen in young adulthood was almost entirely detrimental, which I spent the next decade unlearning, I still say that:“High Crimes and Misdemeanors” is profound in its juxtaposition of the psychology of the wicked and the ethical. The tragedy that the wicked so often prosper.“Shadows and Fog” has stunning visuals that recall the classic early gothic horror films and has an entertaining Kafkaesque plot. As with most of his films, it hyperventilates with fear of the goyim.“A Midsummer Night’s Sex Comedy” is a fun exploration of the conflict between materialism and mysticism. The funniest scene is when sexual jealousy reduces the man of reason to his primitive ancestor.
Marko #382706 December 21, 2023 11:22 am 0
High Crimes and Misdemeanorsis (or was) my favorite Allen film. His best work when was he was aping Ingmar Bergman while keeping his films grounded in that fart-sniffing NYC world of white people. LikeHannah and Her Sisters.
Tars Tarkas #382745 December 21, 2023 12:21 pm 0
fart-sniffing NYC world of (((white))) people. There… Fixed it for you. I don’t know if it’s a NYC thing or a wealthy thing though. I know a lot of Jews. None of them, even ones I don’t like behave like the stereotypical Jew as reflected in films like this. Isaac Hakkabut (Off on a Comet, Jules Verne) is a better and more accurate negative representation. Given the popularity of Allen among Jews, they must see something they like and think it is accurate.
Marko #382757 December 21, 2023 12:56 pm 0
Allen wasn’t just representing (((white))) people. There were always main characters, especially women, who were Gentiles. My take on hisoeuvreis he was trying to capture the fart-sniffing world of midwit Manhattan, where Jews and whites comingled regularly. Allen himself was popular with Jews and fart-sniffing whites because he was the everyman fantasy for the midwit demographic. Here was a character who, despite his looks and neuroses, could charm women and be successful.
Robbo #382835 December 22, 2023 10:33 am 0
The majority of his fans are gentiles.
Ostei Kozelskii #382719 December 21, 2023 11:41 am 0
My mom–something of a Judeophile, I must say–loved Woody Allen, and I somewhat followed suit. Elsewhere, I’ve mentioned Love and Death, which is an absolute scream. Mighty Aphrodite is very good, although ridiculously vulgar. Bullets over Broadway is an interesting film. September and Interiors are both good albeit extremely depressing.
FAFO #382689 December 21, 2023 10:30 am 0
Funny you should mention it. Just a few weeks ago I completed the digital transcription of all the VHS tapes I had in a box sitting in the garage for over twenty years. Annie Hall was on one of them, and I watched it the other night for the first time in at least that long. You’re right about good portrayal of mid-70s New York. The film holds up pretty well. Don’t forget it won the Best Picture Oscar that year as well.
Robbo #382692 December 21, 2023 10:36 am 0
Woody’s body of work is patchy: some great films, but some clunkers too. I must admit that he has grown on me since that awful hag tried to frame him for child abuse.
Jeffrey Zoar #382702 December 21, 2023 11:09 am 0
Won it over Star Wars. The other nominees were pretty forgettable: The Goodbye Girl, Julia, and and The Turning Point. 1977 wasn’t AINO’s cultural zenith.
Ostei Kozelskii #382720 December 21, 2023 11:43 am 0
And it got every white woman in America wearing a big, floppy brown hat and oversized tortoiseshell shades.
Robbo #382836 December 22, 2023 10:34 am 0
Hey, I’m a guy, and I wore those too! 🙂
TomA #382688 December 21, 2023 10:30 am 0
After reading today’s post, I found myself asking “what did I learn from this review of a nominally useless film?”The easy quick answer is . . . stay away, its a waste of time. But upon reflection, the popularity of the film (and its acclaim on the Top 100 list) reveals a much more important lesson about our society. Surviving art from the ancient Greeks (statuary, architecture, pottery etc) is a window into the aesthetic of that age and its people. It says that they valued greatness and accomplishment and aspiration for perfection of the human soul and mind. It was uplifting and hopeful. In contrast, Annie Hall is a debasement of human evolution and glorifies the worst aspects of the worse exemplars of our species. It aspires to drag us down and be entertained by dysfunction, as if that was a noble goal of the gift of life.How far we have fallen. I choose otherwise. I will not settle for degradation and decline as virtues to be admired nor pursued. And you should not either.
Robbo #382694 December 21, 2023 10:38 am 0
I get your general point, but it might be a bit hard on Woody Allen. Sure, he was indulging his neurosis in public, but he was also taking the mickey out of it all too.
Robbo #382696 December 21, 2023 10:41 am 0
I agree with your general point, but I think you are being a bit hard on old Woody. Sure, he indulged his neuroses on the silver screen, but he also took the mickey out of it all too.
Brandon Lasko #382728 December 21, 2023 11:55 am 0
I may be a little slow but I don’t understand the phrase “took the mickey out of it.”
OrangeFrog #382753 December 21, 2023 12:44 pm 0
The phrase means “to make fun of something”. He took the mickey out of me = He made fun of me.
Brandon Laskow #382781 December 21, 2023 3:13 pm 0
Thanks for clarifying. I’ve never heard this phrase before and I’m no kid. Is it more of a British English idiom?
OrangeFrog #382785 December 21, 2023 3:36 pm 0
Brandon, Yes, I believe it is an English thing. I can’t ever recall having seen the phrase used in print by an American. Nor spoken in American film.
Robbo #382837 December 22, 2023 10:35 am 0
Sorry, Brandon. You’re not slow, but probably American (no insult intended!!). It’s a Brit idiom. It means making fun of someone/something
Tars Tarkas #382703 December 21, 2023 11:11 am 0
It makes me wonder if the ancients had so much bad “art” as we do, only the bad art was never preserved by anyone and so we aren’t aware of it.
Jeffrey Zoar #382721 December 21, 2023 11:44 am 0
More in our own time, the “classic” oldies that are still played can induce one to forget about the large amount of awful music from not long past decades.
Ancient Mason #382733 December 21, 2023 12:00 pm 0
YouTube has recordings from Top 40 radio stations in the 60s that prove your point. We don’t remember the schlock.
Ostei Kozelskii #382722 December 21, 2023 11:46 am 0
It seems at least some of it would have slipped through the cracks.
Paintersforms #382726 December 21, 2023 11:52 am 0
The Greeks made plenty of crude porn jugs. Most of the good stuff came after they shrugged off the Persians, not coincidentally.
Robbo #382838 December 22, 2023 10:36 am 0
“Crude porn jugs”. That creates an image in my mind that will keep me warm on many a winter night.
Ostei Kozelskii #382848 December 22, 2023 11:57 am 0
I actually saw the Crude Porn Jugs open for Smashing Pumpkins in Glasgow back in ’92…
TomA #382750 December 21, 2023 12:38 pm 0
Is there any indication that the ancient Greeks glorified their “bad” art by putting on a top 100 list? My point is not that bad art is absent from other cultures, but that glorifying it is most definitely a symptom of a sick society.
Jeffrey Zoar #382759 December 21, 2023 12:59 pm 0
Nobody ever had the consumer culture that AINO does. Making lists is very much an American phenomenon, Americans love lists, and the “best of” lists are just a way for “experts” on “culture” to define what is best to consume, which is a form of status signaling, since in consumer culture you will be judged by what you consume more than by what you produce.
3g4me #382779 December 21, 2023 2:33 pm 0
My favorite take-off on Keats’ famed “Ode to a Grecian Urn” – this one by British poet Desmond Skirrow: Gods chaseRound vase.What say?What play?Don’t know.Nice, though.
Zaphod #382807 December 21, 2023 8:10 pm 0
That’s just so wrong! Now doing it to The Eve of St. Agnes…
ray #382687 December 21, 2023 10:24 am 0
In 1977, the hard-charging don’t need no man feminist was still very much a work in Progress. Women were not in leadership everywhere, as they are now. Girlbosses and lone wandering females were relatively rare.I remember Annie Hall. It was an influential film and certainly had a purpose, which apparently was to further draw attention to the ‘exciting’ life of the pre-Sex In The City single empowered female.I mean, NYC is as noxiously feminine a city as that manjaw-faced female idol in the Harbor. Musta been Gretch (the Wretch) Whitmer’s great-great granny.The movie isn’t titled ‘Alvy Singer’, after all.
Robbo #382697 December 21, 2023 10:42 am 0
I’m not convinced that women are in charge today. They might fill a lot of impressive sounding positions, but, from the way the world is going, they don’t seem to be in control much. To be fair to women, the same goes for the Beta boys who lord it over us.
Paintersforms #382729 December 21, 2023 11:55 am 0
Even management goes down to cheap labor.
Bill Jones #382786 December 21, 2023 4:06 pm 0
The main feminine intellectual drive is to be the same as everybody else. The main male drive (or at least once was) to be right.We live in a world of confomity uber alles.Women rule.
ray #382800 December 21, 2023 5:46 pm 0
Didn’t say they were in control. Said they were in charge.
Robbo #382839 December 22, 2023 10:38 am 0
Point taken, Ray. Now I’m off to make my wife’s hot water bottle. 🙂
LFMayor #382686 December 21, 2023 10:17 am 0
Once upon a time, trash similar to this got pitched in a fire. My hope is I live to see it happen again, so I can help.
Neville Chamberlain Review #382683 December 21, 2023 10:11 am 0
Annie’s grandmother did nothing wrongShe was absolutely right in her perception of Alvy
Filthie #382681 December 21, 2023 9:59 am 0
Sorry, Z… gonna pass on this one. Nothing personal, I just hate Woody Allen. The guy isn’t funny and he bores me to tears. Good luck with the new house. 👍
ProZNoV #382690 December 21, 2023 10:30 am 0
Mel Brooks was peak Jewish humor film directing.
Reviewer #382699 December 21, 2023 11:01 am 0
Brooks and Allen have dialogs to interpret on two levels.One is for the bulk of the audience.The other is for the knowing insiders who smirk at the rubes, idiots and cattle or sheep.When you see that you grow to despise both of them.
Tars Tarkas #382724 December 21, 2023 11:50 am 0
His movies were actually funny, if you’re into that kind of humor.
Bilejones #382787 December 21, 2023 4:07 pm 0
And some are amused by the three stooges.
Tars Tarkas #382802 December 21, 2023 6:26 pm 0
I never saw what people saw in the 3 Stooges.
Outdoorspro #382679 December 21, 2023 9:52 am 0
Woody Allen’s only redeeming factor is his eye for the camera. If you watch AH in mute (really, the only acceptable way) you can really see it; every single frame of that film could stand by itself as great documentary photography. Spike Lee has the same talent. Both make exceptionally beautiful films, but that’s all. It’s sad, as they could have had great careers as cinematographers, but they are each thoroughly obnoxious representatives of their races, so of course they must write and direct!
Compsci #382743 December 21, 2023 12:17 pm 0
“ Spike Lee has the same talent. Both make exceptionally beautiful films, …” Jungle Fever is an exceptionally beautiful film? Spike Lee is another Black man making a (anti-White) statement in all his films. To watch his body of work is to poison your mind. That he has cinematic training and some talent in application thereof only makes him more dangerous to Whites. Sigh….
Paintersforms #382678 December 21, 2023 9:50 am 0
If I’m right that modernity is the loss of religion, then Jews simply had a 1500-year head start on the rest of us. Hence their over representation: they’ve had more practice— they’re better at it. Some JQ guys think we’re living in the world they created, but it could simply be that we’re catching up, becoming more like them. Fwiw.
Paintersforms #382680 December 21, 2023 9:57 am 0
“the essential reality of the Jewish condition, at least as Jews see it, which is that they are always a people who dwell alone, regardless of where they find themselves.” “These are two people who are alienated from themselves, so it is why they cannot have a normal human relationship.” If postmodernity is the loss of identity following from the loss of religion. Again, fwiw. It’s not that Jews haven’t tried to integrate from time to time. Perhaps they can’t, and so they slam hard back into their Jewishness, which turns out to be alienation.
smallhat #382708 December 21, 2023 11:24 am 0
This type is only manhattanite. A small subset of Jews. And as to the Hollywood ,they are Brooklyn and Mannhattan transplants. Not the types where I was raised.
Paintersforms #382730 December 21, 2023 11:58 am 0
There’s always a remnant, but those Manhattanites are the bulk of what we got.
Steve #382741 December 21, 2023 12:16 pm 0
My old army boss, as well as a girl I grew up with are both jewish and both from NY. Neither of them are anything like this.
3g4me #382760 December 21, 2023 1:05 pm 0
About 40% of Jews in America reside in NY and California – I would hardly call over 3 million people a “small subset.”
Steve #382740 December 21, 2023 12:14 pm 0
My old army boss and a girl I went to high school with are both jewish and nothing like any of these people. Both are born and raised in NY.
Steve #382742 December 21, 2023 12:17 pm 0
Apologies for the duplicate post.
Intelligent Dasein #382685 December 21, 2023 10:12 am 0
You should read Oswald Spengler on that subject. He held exactly the same view and you both are right.
Paintersforms #382732 December 21, 2023 12:00 pm 0
Interesting. You’re right, I should. Guy casts a long shadow.
Moe Gibbs #382677 December 21, 2023 9:43 am 0
Annie Hall, hmmm? Sounds stultifyingly boring from Z’s synopsis. I did not appreciateBananasorSleeper, and I’ve always thought of Allen as the penultimate self-absorbed twat. A whiny, meek schmuck with an irresistibly punchable face. I am quite certain that I would loathe the fellow in person.Just to polish my anti-semitic bona fides a little, I find jews in toto to be uniquely uninteresting people, so wholly wrapped up in themselves and their self-imposed “struggle” (You think it’s easy being annoying enough to get thrown out of 109 countries?) that they scarcely have time to notice the greater world about them. Glib, quick with an insult for everyone else, but the thinnest of skins when criticism is leveled at themselves.There is a running joke around chateau MG in September that goes like this:Beloved bride: The kids are off from school tomorrow for Rosh Hashanah.Moi: Rosh Hashanah…Rosh Hashanah…Isn’t that the jewish holiday where they sit around pitying themselves and whining about how persecuted they are? Oh, wait, that’severyjewish holiday.
Robbo #382698 December 21, 2023 10:48 am 0
“I find jews in toto to be uniquely uninteresting people, so wholly wrapped up in themselves and their self-imposed “struggle””. I find that these adjectives fit none of the Jews I know. Most of them are well integrated and don’t give a damn about Israel, except to feel that something is not right in the way that Netanyahoo is handling things.
Ostei Kozelskii #382734 December 21, 2023 12:00 pm 0
Race realists always struggle with broad demographic truth and the personal truth that comes from interaction with individual members of the demographic in question. It’s the NAXALT phenomenon. With Jews, it is quite clear that, as a people, they are hostile toward the white race and use their considerable money, power and influence to harm us, even to the point of undermining our civilization. On the other hand, my personal dealings with Jews have been almost uniformly positive. Jews were instrumental, for instance, in getting me and my wife jobs on a couple of different occasions, and my current best friend is a renowned Jewish academic who is a borderline DR.Having said this, and as painful as it may be, we have to set aside the personal and accept the big picture. And that picture tells us that whites are better off without Jews in our midst.
Compsci #382747 December 21, 2023 12:24 pm 0
Your observation is not restricted to Jews. I happens with other races as well. Indeed, I think the phenomena of IKAGO is the greatest impediment we have to solidarity within the White race as compared to others. Thread that needle and future generations will erect statues in your honor. 😉
Robbo #382841 December 22, 2023 10:43 am 0
I draw the opposite lesson, Ostei. I know all about the malign influence of scum like Soros. However, the Jews I know are nearly all conservative (I’m in Europe) and feel the same way about the way the world is going. Meanwhile, most of the Whites around me all bent over backwards to get themselves vaxxed and go all Nazi with people like me who weren’t. I’ll put the individual before the ideology if that’s okay with you.
Ostei Kozelskii #382851 December 22, 2023 12:04 pm 0
In that case, Euro Jews are ideologically the opposite of American Jews, which strikes me as highly unlikely. On this side of the pond, they vote Leftist about 75 percent of the time, and this is when voting Republican doesn’t even signal one is on the Right.
Compsci #382968 December 23, 2023 6:32 pm 0
“ I’ll put the individual before the ideology if that’s okay with you.” Sure, I try to do so as well. However, societal decisions are made on the typical—or group—average. We build cars for average height people. Four foot 3” or six foot 4” people are in a bind for leg room and head clearance. And so we decide whom to avoid or watch out for as sometimes the stakes are just too high if we are wrong.
smallhat #382716 December 21, 2023 11:35 am 0
we just had Hannukah where we celebrated wictory over Grecosyrians and the God’s miracle.
Maxda #382723 December 21, 2023 11:49 am 0
I thought Sleeper was kind of funny and like Idiocracy, had some good predictions on how stupid things will get.
FNC1A1 #382672 December 21, 2023 9:40 am 0
The best part of Annie Hall is where he brings in Marshall McLuhan https://youtu.be/vTSmbMm7MDg?si=XdWfjAsBLbIIWn7x
cg2 #382756 December 21, 2023 12:55 pm 0
That’s the best part?
Evil Sandmich #382666 December 21, 2023 9:31 am 0
My slightly older acquaintances “ooh” and “ahh” over the ’70s era Allen stuff (that I was much to young to see first-hand) and whenever they see my grimace when I’m sitting through his stuff, and really, their lack of any reaction, there’s an implication of “you had to be there”. It’s as if, that’s the type of stuff that passed for “funny” in the 70s so they took what they could get.
Hoagie #382667 December 21, 2023 9:34 am 0
I was there and it was crap then trust me.
3 Pipe Problem #382669 December 21, 2023 9:36 am 0
Suffered through them with the girl-who-would-not be [my] Queen. Horrific.
Forever Templar #382673 December 21, 2023 9:41 am 0
Yeah, the ’70s sucked the big one. Nobody even wants to emulate it or even make fun of it seems.
Ostei Kozelskii #382737 December 21, 2023 12:06 pm 0
As a kid growing up in the 70s, I loved that decade. Yes, I know the economy from 1973 through 1979 was terrible, and that the clothing and cars were hideous. What’s more, it was the first full decade in which America was in steep decline. But I would go back to the 70s in a New York minute, if I could. Compared to today, it was Xanadu.
RDittmar #382761 December 21, 2023 1:06 pm 0
1980, but close enough: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n8iCnMFCCOw
3g4me #382762 December 21, 2023 1:09 pm 0
Ostei: I’ll take the ’80s over the ’70s any day, and twice on Sundays. No warm and fuzzy memories of the ’70s aesthetics or ‘culture’ or politics.
steve w #382769 December 21, 2023 1:44 pm 0
As far as growing up in a decade, I’d rate the 70s just behind the 50s and the 60s, and well ahead of the 80s, 90s, and whatever the featureless decades after 2000 are called. My rating: 1 – the 1950s2 – the 1960s3 – the 1970s4- the 1980s5 – the 1990s6-8 the 2000s, 2010s, and the current decade. Do you notice that after the 1980s, or at the latest the 1990s, decades cease to have “personalities”. 2000 on is just a gray goo, from my perspective.
Evil Sandmich #382691 December 21, 2023 10:33 am 0
Just like leisure suits and disco? I give the children of the 70s a mulligan because, outside looking in, it all looks like garbage to me.
Ostei Kozelskii #382862 December 22, 2023 1:35 pm 0
Disco lyrics were inane, but the music itself was actually quite good by pop standards. The guitar and percussion work couldn’t compare with rock, of course, but the rhythmic and vocal aspects were excellent.
Götterdamn-it-all #382668 December 21, 2023 9:34 am 0
It’s all relative. In that urban hellscape, it was considered hilarious. Sort of like making macabre jokes in wartime.
smallhat #382718 December 21, 2023 11:41 am 0
AND, It was a satire. Repit after me—A satire.
Carl B. #382664 December 21, 2023 9:26 am 0
WASP couple on the street: She: “I’m shallow and empty, I have no ideas and nothing interesting to say.” He: “I’m exactly the same.”. The End.
Bigtoni #382675 December 21, 2023 9:42 am 0
At least they were good looking
Epaminondas #382662 December 21, 2023 9:25 am 0
The whole damn film reeks of Northeastern urban, neurotic smugness. If you lived in Manhattan in the seventies (I did), you remember the creeping sordidness, the changing cityscape that was becoming increasingly ugly (the newly built Javits center). It’s all so painful to recall. And these peoples’ self-absorption seems to exemplify the post WWII triumphalism that masked the newly emerging silent panic that was engulfing the goyim. They didn’t want to think about what was happening. They just quietly tramped on down those increasingly ugly streets and dirty sidewalks to meet that friend over a drink at the latest trendy bar/restaurant where they could bitch about the broken subway system or praise the latest art exhibit at the Met. How did that work out, Woody?
Forever Templar #382676 December 21, 2023 9:42 am 0
Yeah, it’s a Woody Allen film. The guy’s a douche and it comes through in his movies.
3g4me #382717 December 21, 2023 11:38 am 0
Epaminondas: I have visited New York twice in my life. Once during college to see “Same Time Next Year” on Broadway (I think in 1977) and once to visit a friend for a few days in 1983. I found the place filthy, crowded, depressing, and frightening. No desire to ever visit again, and no movie or commercial attempting to dress up the dross as gold will ever change my mind.
Diversity Heretic #382731 December 21, 2023 11:59 am 0
A movie that really made New York look bad was the 1974 Death Wish with Charles Bronson. The city scenes exuded a sense of menace. In fairness, New York City improved dramatically under Guilani and Bloomberg, before declining again under Deblasio.
Ostei Kozelskii #382738 December 21, 2023 12:09 pm 0
A comparison of Annie Hall and Taxi Driver could make for an interesting article.
Arshad Ali #382660 December 21, 2023 9:23 am 0
Allen is nothing save superficial and fake. The anxious and neurotic pseudo-intellectual with absolutely nothing to say. If he’s considered part of the “cultural elite” I shudder for the soul of the USA. Watched “Annie Hall” and “Interiors” in the late ’70s. Utter tripe masquerading as cultural products. Problem for the USA is that unlike France and Germany it has never had a high culture. If it did it would have a yardstick to measure how utterly wanting this Woody Allen crud is.
3 Pipe Problem #382670 December 21, 2023 9:37 am 0
Spot-on comment!
imbroglio #382657 December 21, 2023 9:12 am 0
After Woody got tired of his alienated Jewish nebbish shtick, his devoir to Ingmar Bergman, Anna And Her Sisters (based on Cries And Whispers,) was pretty decent, and Midnight In Paris is worth seeing and reviewing. The change happened when Woody jilted Mia Farrow for their stepdaughter, and the progressive media made him persona non grata for allegedly being a pedophile. The two of them, stepdad and stepdaughter, are still together. Quietly out of sight of the media.
Jack Dodson #382674 December 21, 2023 9:41 am 0
My, how times change. Allen’s pedophilia and perversion would be celebrated today and have boosted his career. It would be doubly so if the Korean trophy child announced a transition so she could top her stepfather.
Severian #382655 December 21, 2023 9:04 am 0
Your summary reminds me of Lisa Simpson’s take on that other 1970s “classic,”Love Story:“She’s wooden and unpleasant, and no matter whathedoes, he’s still Ryan O’Neal.”
mikeski #382772 December 21, 2023 1:48 pm 0
“That Ali McGraw had an a** that wouldn’t quit and could suck a golf ball through a garden hose. Who cares whether she could act?” – Robert Evans, probably
Ahabs Discount Harpoons #382654 December 21, 2023 9:03 am 0
As someone who lived in Manhattan in the bad old Ed Koch years, I found myself deeply immersed in the nebbish culture you describe. Every day at work I would watch as a schlimazel dropped his soup into the lab of some poor schlemiel, and cluck my tongue, calling to mind what John Murray Cuddihy had written in ‘The Ordeal of Civility:’ “the ordeal is the unconsummated social courtship of Gentile and Jew.” Framed through bizarro pedo “Woody Allen’s” (Allan Konigsberg) neurotic lens, you get the vapid ‘Annie Hall,’ and it’s innumerable imitations that continue to echo through the ghost alleys of our crumbling civilization.Pink Floyd did it better. “Just two lost souls swimming in a fishbowl, year after yearRunning over the same old ground, what have we found?”
Frank #382651 December 21, 2023 8:50 am 0
I didn’t know much about Dianne Keaton, so I looked her up and got an article with excerpts of her memoir. It really goes to show how unpleasant and crazy you seem if you let your insecurities become your personality. I don’t get why these people are held in such high esteem and it’s depressing that they’re held up as examples to women.
Frank #382652 December 21, 2023 8:54 am 0
Edit: Actually, I think it’s “wrong” that they’re held up as examples. I think it’s “depressing” that anyone finds it relatable.
Götterdamn-it-all #382671 December 21, 2023 9:39 am 0
Keaton slept with almost every leading man she appeared with. She’s a whore. I’m being generous.
ProZNoV #382693 December 21, 2023 10:37 am 0
My go-to theory to “whatever happened to Actress X” in the 90’s, 00’s, and 10’s that the up and comers who left the screen right before they went major starlet is that they wouldn’t pay the Weinstein Casting Couch toll. (Ashely Judd comes to mind) The corollary of this is that women who DID make it big in these years were, well, open to going the “extra mile”, with Big W or some other(s). Hollywood is gross, and the Zman is right that actors should be considered carny trash.
Jeffrey Zoar #382715 December 21, 2023 11:35 am 0
There are several well known actresses of that era I’ve heard stories about but I try not to repeat gossip. Anyway, you can figure it out.
The Wild Geese Howard #382771 December 21, 2023 1:48 pm 0
I thought that’s what the site,Crazy Days and Nightsis for?
mmack #382650 December 21, 2023 8:47 am 0
Annie is a neurotic dingbat who every man over thirty has met a thousand times.Over thirty Z? I was meeting them in mytwenties.Then again, they don’t fully ripen until their thirties, do they? 😏Woody Allen’s hang-ups and insecurities are interesting to no one but Woody Allen.I apologize for not subscribing to your reviews, but if you haven’t reviewed it already, take a gander atStardust Memories. It was at the point where Woody decided he had to be a “Serious Director” and move away from comedy, but I’ve heard tell the movie comes across as an extended middle finger to fans who preferred his (in his words in the script) “earlier, funnier movies” (Take The Money and Run, Bananas, Sleeper, etc.).Of course, like everything else it’s been “reassessed” but it’s interesting at the time Woody strenuously denied it wasn’t autobiographical. Me thinks the nebbish protests too much.I takeAnnie HallandManhattanas his first steps away from being a solely comedic writer/director and more towards the “Serious Director”.Stardust Memoriesis the psychic break.Be careful up on the roof Z. We don’t need you crashing through to the floor and ending up in a body cast.
RDittmar #382659 December 21, 2023 9:21 am 0
You’re totally correct aboutStardust Memories. I was actually a fan of Allen’s earlier, funny movies. I enjoyed his stand-up too. I actually enjoyedAnnie Halla lot too. Since it’s actually funny, I’d argue that it too is one of his earlier, funny movies.I think it all went south withManhattan. Given subsequent events, it’s particularly creepy with his relationship with a teen-aged girl. Even setting that aside, it’s not the least bit funny. All the aspects ofAnnie Hallthat the Z-man criticizes are ten thousand times more galling inManhattan. While I watched a few of his post-Manhattanmovies, I don’t think any of them are worthwhile.
Ostei Kozelskii #382852 December 22, 2023 12:12 pm 0
I would never do for Z to fiddle around up on the roof…
Moran ya Simba #382648 December 21, 2023 8:42 am 0
Don’t fall off the damn roof now. All the conspiracy theories it would inspire lol
LineInTheSand #382665 December 21, 2023 9:28 am 0
Was it the conservative establishment? The neocons? “Liberal democracy” itself? I say that he orchestrated it all himself to go live with Elvis and Ad0lph in the hollow of the moon. Tell them that I said hello and will visit again soon.
cg2 #382647 December 21, 2023 8:42 am 0
fluflueI thought you used to hvac?
Moran ya Simba #382649 December 21, 2023 8:45 am 0
I can only assume a “flu” is part of a chimney (???)
cg2 #382653 December 21, 2023 9:02 am 0
fluehttps://www.tradepriceflues.com/blog/whats-the-difference-between-a-chimney-and-a-flue/#:~:text=%3E%20Chimney%20%2D%20this%20is%20the%20structure,and%20out%20of%20your%20home.
thezman #382656 December 21, 2023 9:12 am 0
There was no verbal requirement in my day. Just a strong back and a weak mind.
cg2 #382735 December 21, 2023 12:03 pm 0
Well I have one them. Nowadays you have to read a new service manual every other day. I had a helper once told me “Oh I don’t like to read.” He’s doing something else now. By the way wasn’t it awesome being up on the roof?
Evil Sandmich #382661 December 21, 2023 9:23 am 0
I’m guessing that he’s joking about the roof. As an acquittance once told me: get someone who knows that they’re doing, don’t put the well being of your family at risk by getting on that ladder.
TroperA #382778 December 21, 2023 2:20 pm 0
My Dad decided to put a wood stove in our three story Victorian house to save money. I have pictures of him standing at a dizzying height on the steep roof cleaning the chimney in the coldest part of February. It’s a miracle that he didn’t fall off and break his neck. A lot of wood had to be gathered and stored to last us throughout the winter and that’s what we kids spent a lot of our summer doing. If you can hire people to do these kinds of things for you, I’d recommend it.


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