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While on a walk, I was listening to Jared Taylor interview a fellow calling himself Ed Brodow about his book, *The War on Whites: How Hating White People Became the New National Sport. *Given the title and the platform, I was expecting the author to have similar views on race as other people in that scene. Instead, he sounded more like a civic nationalist or a typical conservative.

It was a fascinating conversation as the author would layout a bunch of facts you would get from the race realist camp, but then try to fit them into the conventional moral framework with regards to race. At the same time, Jared was trying to lead him back to the obvious conclusion of the facts the man has in his book. It was an interesting back and forth that is well worth a listen.

It was also a great example of of the power of moral authority. Jared Taylor rejects the moral claims about race that come from the race denialists, while the author of the book accepts most of those moral claims. It was a clash of moral visions that highlights a central problem with regards to race. One side has a different view of right and wrong regard race than the other side of the conversation.

This is not unusual. When it comes to a wide range of issues, most opinions are guided by a moral framework that few people consider. Everyone accepts, for example, that racism is a universal moral concept. Everyone knows it is wrong to notice race, unless you are of the elect and you are noticing that someone not of the elect is noticing something about race. Then and only then is noticing race okay.

The truth is, noticing race was normal until the middle of the last century and the normative claims about racism we take for granted today would have been unknowable to people a century ago. This new moral framework, however, does not rest on a legitimate moral foundation. It was conjured from the ether and great effort is made to conceal its lack of moral authority.

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  • Racism As A Sin
  • Brownification Of Life
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  • Why Is This?
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Bartleby the Scrivner #374539 October 22, 2023 3:16 pm 0
Fellow bloggers; I’m sitting on my patio, overlooking our forested area, resting from a hard days work. …and I’m grilling… Please forgive me.
3g4me #374533 October 21, 2023 4:19 pm 0
Apropos an earlier part of the thread (taking our own side instead of hiding behind magic joggers), just noticed that Chicago Audubon Society dropped the ‘problematic’ colonizer name and is now the Chicago Bird Society. First three comments at Gayway Pundit, decrying wokeness and the rewriting White dominated history, quoted . . . you guessed it . . . Thomas Sowell. Cannot make these things up. His popularity alone among cuckservatards, aside from his other obvious failings, is reason enough to shun him and his works.
JerseyJeffersonian #374538 October 22, 2023 11:49 am 0
I used to be a member of the Audubon Society, but then came the day that they discarded their actual purpose, and fervently took a knee to woketardery, evincing their white guilt, and all of that shit. No longer a member, but still avidly look out for my birds through feeding, and through plantings that provide natural food sources and shelter.
LineInTheSand #374541 October 22, 2023 3:32 pm 0
What I take from the love that white conservatives have for Thomas Sowell is how strongly whites object to judging a person by their racial group. Does any other race demonstrate this commitment? Of course not.Conservative whites want to model colorblind thinking to the rest of the world. But, at some point, if they want to survive, they must realize that their message is not persuasive to non-whites and that most non-whites act as a tribe most of the time. Their beloved non-whites are not going to reciprocate the same good will to them. (I know that you know all of this, 3g4m3 🙂
Ploppy #374543 October 22, 2023 5:39 pm 0
It reminds me of the feeling I have feeding a squirrel where the squirrel is most likely thinking “this guy is just GIVING me food, what a retard!”
My Comment #374517 October 21, 2023 12:43 am 0
Racism being the great modern evil (only second to anti Semitism) is really a white thing. Having lived for 13 years in non white countries people have no problem noticing differences in race. There might be a little virtue signaling and no one likes racism directed at them but they are very willing to notice the behavior of various races.For example: in Eastern Asia many people have told me they don’t like working with Indians or having them as customers and they are very specific as to why. This includes the Indian owner of a five star hotel. She hates Indian and Chinese customers. She prefers whites and non Chinese Eastern Asians. She says the Chinese order food, eat it then claim they didn’t order it so don’t want to pay. The Indians are always trying to get extra time in the spa for free and when they don’t get it refuse to pay. And few want Africans in their country because they associate them with crime.Now these same Asians will play the race card in the US because white people are chumps but they take pride in noticing in their own countries.
Ostei Kozelskii #374528 October 21, 2023 10:02 am 0
Whites as a race of chumps–boy have you got that right.
Poirot #374532 October 21, 2023 4:16 pm 0
The white race seems to consist of crazies on the one hand, and wimps on the other. I wish I didn’t have to be so “oikophobic”, as that’s generally a leftist kind of thing, but…
Ostei Kozelskii #374540 October 22, 2023 3:23 pm 0
It wasn’t always so…
Bourbon #374534 October 21, 2023 4:54 pm 0
My Comment: “She says the Chinese order food, eat it then claim they didn’t order it so don’t want to pay.” As they say on teh Chans, “Ant-j00z”.
Whitney #374485 October 20, 2023 4:19 pm 0
Completely off topic but I’ve been wondering if anyone has any thoughts on this.. So if they succeed in sending Trump to jail what happens to his secret service detail? Do they have to report to jail or does he somehow get stripped of protection?
Moran ya Simba #374486 October 20, 2023 4:29 pm 0
We are in totally uncharted territory in the political, as well as cultural, economic and demographic, history of the republic so I don’t think anyone has a definitive answer to that. The secret service field manual chapter on incarcerated ex presidents has not yet been written
Whitney #374487 October 20, 2023 4:48 pm 0
Yeah it’s really something. I don’t know how many secret service agents he has assigned to him as a ex-president but that’s going to be pretty hard to accommodate in jail. I’m assuming they’re going to have to be armed right? What an assignment. ” Bye honey, got to go to jail for the day guard Trump. See you for dinner” insert clown emoji here
Hemid #374493 October 20, 2023 6:30 pm 0
His SC detail’s job is to kill him. Best case, they shout “He’s coming right for us!” right before they do it.
WCiv911 #374522 October 21, 2023 6:48 am 0
How quaint. Such an old fashioned way of thinking. Secret Service protection is a legal requirement. In our one party state, legal requirements are meaningless. They do whatever they want. Who’s to stop them? Biden denied Secret Service protection to RFK Jr, who had two of his ancestors assassinated! A government that can throw the leading candidate for President into jail won’t let a little detail like suspending his SS protection get in the way.
Pozymandias #374530 October 21, 2023 2:27 pm 0
I think they all have to go to jail with him. It’ll be amazing, sort of an Apocalypse Now scene where Trump will turn the prison into his own little country/cult with the secret service guys rounding up people to behead and put their heads on spikes. As The Doors “This is the End” rises to crescendo Biden will order an airstrike on the prison but the pilots forget everything except “diversity is our strength” and blow up a nearby hospital instead. Trump is re-instated and declared God-King For Life. As his first act as GK he moves the capitol to Florida and gives Putin the go-ahead to nuke DC…or – maybe they just don’t jail him and that whole indictment circus is a distraction and sideshow… or – they do jail him and the post below about how legal niceties being irrelevant in a one-party state is close to the mark.
Ben Netflix #374545 October 23, 2023 7:31 am 0
Dan Crenshaw as Capt Willard rising out of a pool of blood to mak siccar. Fetterman as the Dennis Hopper character doing mad freestyle dialogue. Laurence Fishburne could reprise his role to show lack of fat-shaming. Jason Stratham as Kilgore just cuz I like Jason Stratham.
Tars Tarkas #374432 October 20, 2023 12:18 pm 0
Who said?This is more slight of hand. Because it is always characterized as being self-evident. Nobody needed to say it because it is self-evident.Ask any anti-racist (anti-White) “who says” and it will always come down to it is being consistent with our principles and self-evident. After all, if everyone is equal, then equal outcomes would naturally flow from such a condition. If equality is true, then an unequal outcome can only be explained by something interfering with the process.There is more slight of hand especially when it comes to blacks. It’s way more than just equality. We all have to look at a grey elephant and insist the elephant is actually pink with purple polka dots. We have to view video of a black fighting with cops or pointing guns at cops and pretend what we are actually seeing is White supremacist cops hunting black people for no reason whatsoever. We have to look at video of black people rioting or looting Target and pretend that it’s something else or that we didn’t see it at all. We have to pretend that black people moving into your neighborhood and destroying your quality of life is progress, but that White people moving into black neighborhoods are practicing ethnic cleansing. We have to pretend table 43 doesn’t exist and that prisons are disproportionately black because of racist policing and racist selective enforcing of the law. Noticing anti-White murder is White supremacist conspiracy theory. All evidence to the contrary is hand waived and denounced as pseudoscientific racism.Even if we could end this tomorrow, which we cannot, the effects of this will be felt for hundreds of years. We are still dealing with the consequences of bad ideas from hundreds of years ago. Bad people eventually die, bad ideas rarely do.Even changing our form of government will not help. Imagine if we changed the entirety of Western Civilization to various Christian theocracies. Every single denomination of Christianity preaches racial equality and anti-Whiteness. Christianity isn’t Christianity anymore. Same would be true if we crowned a king. The would be aristocracy is the most committed to anti-Whiteness.
Disruptor #374438 October 20, 2023 12:49 pm 0
Racism is a subset of Jewies warfare on Europeans.Today, far greater than not kowtowing to blacks, greater than anything, is not kowtowing to the stupid story of the 6 million.From, lets say 400 AD into the 1700’S, Europeans would tie a fellow European to a stake, heap sulfur on their head, and burn them alive because of not kowtowing to Jewish stories in the right way.Live by the jew; die by the jew.As more people laugh at the jews and their stories, then we will begin to make the world right. The mess in Middle East and Europe and America, are acting-outs of old jew stories, stupid old stories.
Ploppy #374439 October 20, 2023 1:03 pm 0
I think we were at peak Jew before the internet, but the ability of the internet to debunk their histrionic lying is undermining their hold on power. Their age-old strategy has been to beeline straight to the native elite of a host country, establish leverage over them through moneylending or blackmail, and then control everything that way. Problem is that now everyone is perfectly aware that all the politicians crying for Israel are just being bribed or extorted to do so, so they aren’t getting the same “Duh let’s go bomb towelheads for the Judles so Jesus can come back!” reaction like they had in 2001. Once the boomers are all burning in hell there won’t be any suckers left to listen to the neo-cohens and they might finally be hung out to dry. Or start a nuclear war and kill everyone out of spite. Either way.
BigJimSportCamper #374524 October 21, 2023 8:39 am 0
There a far, far more ‘boomers’ than you can ever imagine who are not and never were ‘suckers’ to the neocohens. This intergenerational slamming is ubiquitous, utterly unproductive, and right out of the neocohen playbook. Just one more divisive ploy to keep us attacking each other whilst the nose grins and moves his agenda forward amongst the bickering. It’s all so tiresome.
Archie Parr #374527 October 21, 2023 9:54 am 0
81% of people over 65 support Israel in this conflict. I believe under 30 the support is something like 24%. It’s not tiresome to point out that certain generations have ties to cultural or ethnic or religious beliefs that succeeding generations do not. We point it out so they’ll realize it, and reflect upon it.
Ploppy #374529 October 21, 2023 12:41 pm 0
Nearly every boomer I’ve known believes everything the nightly news tells them is reliable information. I can spend hours explaining to them exactly why the media gets its narratives from their owners and the government, how they selectively omit information and use weasel words to characterize a story, and how I constantly encounter evidence on the internet that contradicts the media. Of course the internet isn’t a valid source of information for boomers because “anyone could say anything on there”.Usually they relent and admit I’m probably right that the TV lies, then the next day they’re right back to “Hey, that nice Cuomo man on the TV says we need to stick giant q-tips up our noses to stop the covid!” Hopeless.
Tars Tarkas #374461 October 20, 2023 2:36 pm 0
“Today, far greater than not kowtowing to blacks, greater than anything, is not kowtowing to the stupid story of the 6 million.” True or not, they OWE us. No greater good deed has ever been punished as the West’s insane war against Germany. They are the ultimate ingrates. instead of gratefulness, we get “you goy are all alike and could breakout in antisemitism at any moment and start chucking us into showers!!!” It is completely infuriating to me that these museums are in America and that our children are FORCED to attend them.
Boarwild #374488 October 20, 2023 4:50 pm 0
Tars –Just a hunch from my one study of Military History but Germany has been THE most maligned & hammered country of the 20th Century. Even before the advent of everybody’s favorite Austrian ( I say “favorite” because they can’t stop bringing him up/talking about him for over 80yrs now) the British had their nose in a twist over the Kaiser’s audacity to build a blue water navy (“Britannia Rules The Waves” don’t’ya know!) & the French itching for revenge for getting pummeled in The Franco-Prussian War of 1870-71 & losing the Alsace-Lorraine. British propaganda labeled German soldiers as cannibals who killed & ate Belgian children” (this one was so egregious that Erich Maria Remarque even talked about it in his novel “All Quiet on the Western Front”), & the British created the heinous German practice of “unrestricted submarine warfare” (I.e. sink-on-sight) since they armed merchant ships with 5-inch guns. Moreover, nor were they above loading passenger liners with illegal ordnance (see “RMS Lusitania, Wreck of”) then blaming “the blood-thirsty Hun” for murdering innocent women & children.Fast forward to 1942, when “the blood-thirsty Hun” had crushed the then largest army in Europe (France) & kicked the British out of Europe 4x (Dunkirk, Norway, Greece, & Dieppe) & who’s armies then stood @ the gateway to Asia on the Sea of Azov (advance German units made it into Astrakhan) after inflicting 3.5 million casualties on The Red Army in as many months.Just my $0.02 & reading between the lines but seems as though the Allies were thoroughly humiliated & determined that the German should be crushed, never to rise again. Small wonder they get the Austrian corporal & the Holocaust shoved in their face every five minutes.
BigJimSportCamper #374525 October 21, 2023 8:44 am 0
My otherwise level-headed friend from London in his sixties still believes the Belgian bayoneted/ate babies stories he was fed as a tyke. I just sadly shake my head.
Ooph #374526 October 21, 2023 9:33 am 0
All you’ve done is swap Germany with Britain. “It’s simplistic to blame one country”; immediately starts blaming one country with a series of confidently asserted lies. Well done…
NoOneAtAll #374464 October 20, 2023 2:48 pm 0
Oh good it’s “DISRUPTOR” here with more sam harris meets edgy black metal preteen fedora takes!Hey there DISRUPTOR I think you really add a lot to the cause with the way you take literally any and every pretext to sow division between religious and non religious right wingers.Certainly DISRUPTOR the way forward is to alienate the majority of people on the right by constantly doing the cartoon nazi thing and pointing your act at our own side in the most noxious possible way.You bring so much to the conversation when you do this in literally every post. I’m glad you’ve chosen this otherwise pretty productive and agreeable forum to sow division DISRUPTOR.I bet dem jews are running scared knowing that at this moment their outspoken critics are meeting to point fingers at one another and be goaded by DISRUPTOR into arguing about baby’s first atheism takes.
Disruptor #374474 October 20, 2023 3:30 pm 0
The fedora shtick riffs off the Shrek movie. Oddly, Shrek and the bible both have a talking donkey.But the point is:Moses going up upon a flaming mountain to the receive Torah in front of 3,000,000 Jews is the moralization the Jews use to justification genocide. That’s where it goes. See below, Anna references that event as their power source.It’s sad that It’s a myth. Living inside their myths isn’t helping. I have enjoyed bible stories myself, but they are stories and those stores are the pretext that facilitates genocide. Those stories are killing us.Come up with some effective way to de-potentiate them. Create a new story.Tens of Millions of Christians are supporting jews to destroy the world. Stop them.
NoOneAtAll #374489 October 20, 2023 5:48 pm 0
Are you fourteen?The “fedora thing” happened when everyone got sick of hearing people repeat the same retarded “invisible magic sky daddy” nu-atheism arguments they heard on (((tv))).Everyone has moved on from this and the online right at large is pretty tired of having literally thousands of years of our european ancestors defamed by some edgy dorks who hate their dad. Its bad enough to have Greenblat and the rest of the fellow whites banging this drum all the time.Most of the major thought leaders in the dissident right are christians of one stripe or another, the few who are NOT are respectful and acknowledge the important social function christianity serves for our people.The “post christian” west is the epicenter of every form of faggotry and self abasement and the graph is pretty much a perfect negative correlation with rejection of Christianity. None of this is an accident.You have the same cosmology and corollary moral system as antifa troons and (((media executives))). If I thought this was insightful I’d watch corporate media products rather than be here reading it, at least they have explosions and slow mo.
Disruptor #374536 October 21, 2023 10:24 pm 0
Nope, none of that paint applies. In particular, Antifa and troonitarianism are just Judaic warfare against the goyim.Frustrations are understandable: so many have invested so much into Jewish scrolls.And now over recent years, large caches of historical material have come to light.Materials which show that the Jewish religion relies heavily upon reuse other nation’s stories. Their own material is rants and stories about subverting and subjugating and inflicting harm upon Gentiles.Rejoice, there is Good News!Credo in Deum Patrem omnipotentem, Creatorem caeli et terrae.I believe in God the Father almighty, Maker of heaven and earth.All those Latin words are ancient. They go back to European Root Words. They were ancient thousands of years before the Jewish ethnogenesis from backwater hill country Canaanites. Before Moses, had Moses been real. Before Abraham, had Abraham been real.Long before the time setting of those yarns, Our Ancestors already knew Deum Patrem.Our European Ancestors fanning out to West China and to the Atlantic Ocean knew Him.The Heavenly Father, God the Father is ours. And always has been.Those Jews have temporally tricked Europeans from our birthright and blessings by claiming that our god was theirs. But no.Jews only had a foul tempered bumbling tribal pagan storm god from the wilderness of Edom. And at that, it was more so the family deity of the high priests’ family.Worse, they want to charge us for their Gentile hating heap of hogwash religion.We’ve about given everything away to them, and we are up to our neck with troubles from them.All this time God the Father has been right here. He is waiting for his people to abandon their fling with that terrible Jewish thing.
pyrrhus #374459 October 20, 2023 2:32 pm 0
As a Constitutional lawyer, I must disagree with Z-man on the continuing sanctity of diversity…The Harvard reverse discrimination case Opinion of the Court lays out very clear guidelines for approval of such programs, and they are quite limited in scope and in time…It is a serious retrenchment in this area, and Brown vs Board of Ed was never even mentioned in the opinion….
Compsci #374481 October 20, 2023 4:03 pm 0
Retrenchment perhaps in the Courts, business as usual in the field.
NoOneAtAll #374462 October 20, 2023 2:40 pm 0
“Every single denomination of Christianity preaches racial equality and anti-Whiteness.” Well since we’re apparently just agreeing to make things up now… I’d like a unicorn pegasus.
Moran ya Simba #374483 October 20, 2023 4:09 pm 0
If you’re going to be Christian, be it old school
NoOneAtAll #374490 October 20, 2023 5:57 pm 0
Not sure if its just out of control recency bias or what? Didnt any of you go to government school? Werent you taught how dem ebbil christians justified slavery and the holocaust(tm) and the crusades and manifest destiny and all the rest? No one anywhere worried about “racism” in the contemporary sense, thats the theme of Z man’s note today for that matter.Christianity isnt and wasnt identified with lesbian episcopal priestesses giving BLM abortion sermons. Those people arent even Christian in any historically identifiable sense.Read the NYTimes… its those evil christians that do all the racisms and dont even want infinity migrants. Cant judge by some russel moore and pope francis types that are nothing more than termites in our civilizational and religious edifice.
Tars Tarkas #374491 October 20, 2023 6:02 pm 0
Name one major international denomination of Christianity that is not into the whole race thing on the side of the anti-Whites? Or promoting homosexuals and other degenerates.If you can name them and I can’t find an example of them doing it, I’ll change my mind.Take the Baptists for example. They excommunicated an entire church from their ranks for the words of a single wrong-thinker (James Edwards) Or the Methodists. Or the larger Anglican church. Or the Catholic church etc.I’ve always maintained that you can find decent individual churches, like Edward’s church. That is, a single congregation who ignores the larger national denomination. But whatever denomination they belong to either is ignoring them or disavowing them.PLUS, notice how I phrased it. I said “Christianity is no longer Christianity,” not that any of this stuff is inherently in Christianity. The Churches, like every other institution in America have been corrupted.
Davidcito #374505 October 20, 2023 9:37 pm 0
“ If you can name them and I can’t find an example of them doing it”. This would be a non falsifiable argument. It’s possible to find an example of anything, even gay Muslims who love Israel.
Evil Sandmich #374471 October 20, 2023 3:22 pm 0
Ask any anti-racist (anti-White) “who says” and it will always come down to it is being consistent with our principles and self-evident—Yes but us saying “because it’s good/bad for our people” is a good consistent principle. This forces the moral ball back onto their court and rare (not rare enough alas) is the regime toadie who will come right and say “I don’t care that it’s bad for white people”.
Pozymandias #374531 October 21, 2023 2:52 pm 0
A lot of it is that people have forgotten the fine art of looking away, giving a little chuckle as they do, and getting back to cleaning up the business spreadsheet, checking the weather forecast, and thinking about how to find room for the new lathe or welding rig in the workshop.My wife and I were watching a video about “Baby Doc” Duvalier this morning. She’s bit younger than me and doesn’t know nearly as much history so she asked about what happened after him. I told her I didn’t really know how Duvalier met his end but that, from recent news stories, it seemed that Haiti had returned to “the African Norm” meaning just chaos, violence, and poverty.I offered the fact that African-derived humans were usually a standard deviation below Whites in IQ as a possible reason why places as far flung as Baltimore, Port au Prince, and Lagos (the real one) look so similar. She immediately went to “the IQ studies are biased”. I just told her she was bullshitting and that there had been research for decades in many different places all showing the same thing. She’s a very good person but women naturally do this. They NEED the world to be fair and just in some sense.The fact is that it doesn’t matter. What does matter is preventing good-natured, naive women from forcing the rest of us to waste time, money, and eventually life and limb, engaging in “Tikkun olam” to force their fantasies to come true. We’ve got our own lives to live and Whites at least used to have a good intuitive sense about this. Live and let die – or as my friend who were in Special Forces used to say: FIDO. Fuck it and drive on.Women’s suffrage delenda est.
Tars Tarkas #374403 October 20, 2023 11:33 am 0
20:50 The 50s and 60s media is LOADED with the morality propagandizing. There are some shows that didn’t have much if any, but other shows that are just dripping with it. It was on radio too. The radio program “Superman” helped destroy the KKK and turned it into a laughing stock. They actually brag about this. Just watch a few episodes of The Twilight Zone.Some of it is subtle, but much of it is about as subtle as a punch in the face.If we are to make any progress whatsoever, it has to start with culture, just as they started with culture with the movies, TV, radio and books. All of our media, mostly podcasts and youtube videos with the occasional book starts with the major premise of “I wish everyone agreed with me. If they did, we’d win” The simple fact of the matter is, you cannot talk someone out of their emotionally held beliefs which are also wrapped up in their identity.We don’t even have media for children. If right wing dissidents want to give media to their children, they are stuck with the enemy’s media. Whether it’s fisher price toys, baby’s first book, Sesame Street or any number of children’s media, it’s saturated with propaganda. Most of it is extremely subtle and builds the basis that later lessons will build upon. This has been true my entire life. The first episodes of Sesame Street are available on youtube or DVDs. You got bombarded with multiculturalism. Black, White and Puerto Rican kids all playing together living on “diverse” Sesame Street.We are up against a vast machine of what started as equality propaganda which is now explicitly anti-White propaganda. It permeates every facet of our lives, even at work. Until these attitudes planted in our brains as children and then nurtured throughout our lives in many and various ways can be chipped away, things will continue to get worse as they have for the last 8 decades.
fakeemail #374417 October 20, 2023 11:52 am 0
Norman Lear owned the minds Boomers and GenXers: -ALL IN THE FAMILY: dumb white bigot overwhelmed by modern forces-MAUDE: feminism-SANFORD AND SON/JEFFERSON/GOOD TIMES/WHATS HAPPENIN’: blacks-DIFF’RENT STROKES: whites integrating with blacks and scorning white bigots-ONE DAY AT A TIME: single mom Can’t forget Mel Brooks, the Reiners, Sherwood Schwartz, and many, many more who OWNED to the mind and soul of the boob tube couch potatoes. Of course Superman, and all superheroes, are Jewish created and owned at DC/Marvel. A perfect propaganda medium for espousing to the simple-minded masses notions of good and evil.
Tars Tarkas #374466 October 20, 2023 2:55 pm 0
It’s called normalization and has nothing to do with simple mindedness. It’s not just TV either. It is everywhere. That’s the point. That’s “normalization” Plus, it’s just reinforcement. You learned it in school. You picked it up as part of the culture (as a child) just like how you learned to speak. How the heck is a child supposed to know what they are seeing on the TV or being taught at school is propaganda? They are not equipped to detect or rebut it.All the TV shows you listed were the worst examples that punched you in the face with the message. They were the least effective and easiest to point out as propaganda. Look at a Rockwell painting and then look at Soviet art. One is excellent propaganda that few if any identify as being propaganda and the other is blatant in your face propaganda that reveals itself to the viewer as propaganda.Our enemies realized very early on that propaganda had to be subtle and it had to be pervasive. They have done an excellent job at hiding it. It is only once you are looking for it that you can even see it. Otherwise, it is so common and so pervasive that you see it everywhere and is unremarkable.
Ostei Kozelskii #374480 October 20, 2023 4:03 pm 0
How are Norman Rockwell paintings propaganda?
Moran ya Simba #374484 October 20, 2023 4:17 pm 0
They clearly are. For a society where “dirt people” as they’re called on this blog (not a fan of that term but never mind) can speak their mind, where the government works for their benefit, where playing by the rules gets you ahead. Propaganda for a society that makes sense. The 1940s was probably a heck of a lot closer to those ideals than we are today but it’s still propaganda. That said I like his paintings. I would love a society that makes sense in that way
Tars Tarkas #374492 October 20, 2023 6:07 pm 0
I don’t mean that it’s bad, but that it is selling a message about who we are. I don’t oppose propaganda. I just oppose the enemy’s propaganda. Rockwell’s paintings are the kind of propaganda we need more of, not less of.
Evil Sandmich #374473 October 20, 2023 3:30 pm 0
In hindsight Sandford and Son was like the black version of Seinfeld. It was pretty honest about the fact that it was a show for black people but the show was amusing and clever enough that white people could fool themselves into thinking they were in on the joke too.I guess I was young enough to have only seen those on re-runs on cable, though “Strokes” was the only one I could ever remember watching. There wasLaverne and ShirleyandThree’s Companytoo, kinda two sides of The Adventures of the Young Roasties (I’m guessing, never really watched those either).
LineInTheSand #374427 October 20, 2023 12:07 pm 0
I know that it’s tiresome, but who created Superman? Who created the Twilight Zone?
fakeemail #374433 October 20, 2023 12:23 pm 0
Yes, all these things we loved as kids (and which could merit in and of themselves) were part of the matrix; utter propaganda subtle and not. The old myths and gods of post WWII have to be slayed no matter how painful it may be. Because the “good old days” as we may remember it were just the beginning (or middle) of the end.
Tars Tarkas #374436 October 20, 2023 12:33 pm 0
I try to stay away from the antisemitism, but it is absolutely true that having a TV in your living room is like having a Jew in your living room. Same is true for radio, books, Twitter, youtube etc. Allowing a foreign group to take control of such important cultural things was the single biggest mistake (aside from letting them into our countries in the first place) ever made by White people.
Ostei Kozelskii #374455 October 20, 2023 2:15 pm 0
I upvoted Tars’ post here, but I cannot quite agree that TZ is heavily propagandistic. Yes, there are certainly some instances, but in 156 episodes that is bound to be the case. There are also many episodes that valorize traditional white, American morality. The larger point about the toxicity of the pop culture remains unscathed, of course, but there are far more egregious examples of this than TZ.
NoOneAtAll #374467 October 20, 2023 2:59 pm 0
“We don’t even have media for children. If right wing dissidents want to give media to their children, they are stuck with the enemy’s media.”Incorrect.If you want to plop your kids in front of screens while you grill and talk sportsball with Boomer Bill and Normie Nancy then sure.If you dont want to abuse your kids spiritually and turn them into retards or troons (which Im sure no one here wants) then dont give them screens, give them BOOKS… and as we all know theres a universe of great books that express positive european cultural ideas.Start by searching out “kids books that are racist” or “problematic childrens books” or “subtly fascist eurocentric homophobic anti black classics that no parent should ever allow” for some great ideas and go from there. Usually good editions can be found used and even new today.Outside childrens books pretty much our whole western literary canon will innoculate your kids… that’s why they dont teach it anymore.If they get bored reading after a while tell them to build with blocks go play outside or put on the gloves/roll on the mat. If you want shitlib kids that grow up to hate you then raise them like shitlibs do with ipads and contemporary trash culture.
Tars Tarkas #374482 October 20, 2023 4:07 pm 0
You kind of missed the point. While I certainly agree that old books are better than new books, some of this stuff was in books a 100 years ago. But fine, you can avoid that. But what you will have a hard time finding is media that reinforces a pro-White point of view that isn’t very poorly done. At its best, they will push traditional value, not pro-White ones. To the extent they push traditional values, they will not attach it to Whiteness and why this is good.It’s not enough to be traditional. After all, White people were once traditional. The enemy propaganda slowly chipped away at that. They turned our virtues into cuckoldry.All you can really do is prepare your children for the tsunami of anti-White propaganda that is everywhere, including peer-pressure. Is your child prepared for the kids in school who will be explaining why George Floyd is an American hero after the pro George Floyd lesson? How well will traditional stories prepare them for that? We need to teach the best of Western tradition and morals and wrap it up in Whiteness. We also need to teach a skeptical attitude bordering on cynicism.Are you children prepared to understand that every single word of the “Emit Till” story is complete and utter BS? Because while you are not sitting around thinking about these types of stories being taught to your children and White people as the universal bad guy, your kid’s teachers are. Even if you home school, they’re probably going to go to college. There is simply no way to preempt any particular story they could theoretically come up with. None of us ever even heard of “Juneteenth” 2-3 years ago.This is where tying everything back to being pro-White is necessary, or at least, the only way I can think of to make their skepticism about race and especially anti-Whiteism.
NoOneAtAll #374494 October 20, 2023 6:32 pm 0
“But what you will have a hard time finding is media that reinforces a pro-White point of view that isn’t very poorly done. ”Youre talking about screens again, did you notice when I rejected that entire medium as poison?Even if video games and movies werent woke theyre still absolutely fake and gay activities and I wouldnt have kids regularly watching them because it makes them fat, lazy and stupid. I think the Illiad is pretty well done, Lord of the Rings too. Could list literally a hundred more l.“Because while you are not sitting around thinking about these types of stories being taught to your children and White people as the universal bad guy, your kid’s teachers are.”If you have any sense your kids’ teachers are some combination of you and your lawful spouse. I’m pretty sure you dont hate white people and yeah since the entire curriculum is made in house yeah sitting down thinking about it is literally exactly what’s happened.“Are you children prepared to understand that every single word of the “Emit Till” story is complete and utter BS?”Of course they are, aren’t you? Why wouldnt they? Do you think you have to speak in code with your own family? It takes heavy constant early programming to convince people not to be “racist”. Educate them and let them see the truth with their own eyes. They cant unsee it anymore than we can. You think kids dont notice that little joggers are often violent and arent as intelligent as their friends? How about that observation coupled with a knowledge of actual history?“Even if you home school, they’re probably going to go to college. ”Maybe. Family business or local entrepreneurship is generally a better use of a hundred large or so. If you do have kids in college and youve raised them right they dont instantly become retards and throw out 18 years of real education and practical knowledgeThere are plenty of solid white kids in college now who reject the whole program on their own. God bless them!Most of us here have rejected the program on our own but it took a while to shake off… how much better off a kid that had a comprehensive character formation making them proud of their identity. They’re starting the game with four pocket aces. Can still mess it up, surely, but that’s the human condition.Just dont accept this fatalism that you have to serve the cultural slop to your family. You dont. Turn off the screens and tell them the things you know are true. Build a relationship and be the sort of person theyll naturally respect. Be an unboomer and help them build their own grub stake.YOU create the environment your children grow up in and need to take responsibility for it. Popping out sproglings and pushing them out the door for the government to raise is jogger tier.
john smyth #374497 October 20, 2023 8:10 pm 0
Dude . . . have you ever had kids?
Tars Tarkas #374537 October 22, 2023 9:58 am 0
“Just dont accept this fatalism that you have to serve the cultural slop to your family.” It’s like you didn’t read a single thing I wrote.
Moran ya Simba #374400 October 20, 2023 11:28 am 0
“Racism” is considered the worst moral crime in postmodern society. It is not randomly chosen because it makes it morally and culturally (and in Europe with no first amendment, judicially) illegal to discuss and correct for very central aspects of observable reality such as competence, crime and differences in preference and enjoyment of life.When you can’t adjust for these things society, like any highly complex system deprived of it’s corrective feedback mechanisms, will start to break down. But it doesn’t end there; “anti racism” targets whites in the most extreme ways. While every other group is encouraged to fight for their interests whites are both denied to exist and at the same time blamed for all the ills of history. We are told to worry about the welfare of indigenous people of the Amazon but it is officially not a problem that Swedes are rapidly becoming a minority in Sweden. Israel is the national home for the Jewish people. But to say that Germany may be the same for the German people is a jailable felony in Germany. An America in 1860 that was only a quarter slave society based on population and probably didn’t produce one tenth of a per mill of America in 1960, is said to be built on the back of slavery.This complete disregard for logical consistency gives the game away. “Racism” is a mental weapon used to preempt natural defensive instincts in whites, as any group would feel in the face of such an onslaught. And it is wielded with genocidal hatred and intent against Europeans in Europe, North America and Oceania.We are on the receiving end of genocide by new means. And we must realize that. And people who accuse whites of genocide, whether they be white or non white, are small cogs in the most ambitious campaign of ethnic extermination in history. Even for an agnostic like myself that makes them the servants of Satan.It is also extremely unlikely that we can find redress within the current system. But strategies for dealing with this are another story and frankly I am not sure how to do that. First thing first: “racism” is a mind weapon used to exterminate the European world.
RealityRules #374398 October 20, 2023 11:22 am 0
I think I mentioned this interview on a recent OT post. Taylor does a masterful job.He keeps laying it right back on the table and Brodow ignores it. The one thing that Taylor could have done that we should do when we have the chances to, is to focus in on the colorblind myth. Point out the stark reality that the Civil Rights legal regime is hyper color aware. This anti-white racism is now more overt because they are emboldened by The Great Replacement. This is just the next logical step toward our Dispossession. Point out the simple logic of basic game theory where one group is disorganized, sees itself as not a group and playing by rules and the other group(s) are highly organized and group aware and play by the the rules of – whatever it takes to win.These guys are just whining that it is unfair and that the other guys are not playing by the colorblind ideal. Then you ask them, what game theory predicts in this circumstance. If they can’t figure it out you help them – subjugation and potential annihilation.You tie it all together. Colorblind Lie. The Great Replacement. Game Theory. The Likely Outcome. Then the solution. Colorblind is suicide and we must take our own side. Brodow says it himself, “The War On Whites.” Then he forgets about the war and shows up unarmed and a request that everyone just be nice and play fair. If it is war Brodow and Rufo and the others, then you better act like it.Per some other posts, the “Conservative” Seven of Sowell, Williams, Riley, MacWhorter, Owens, Hawkins, and that fat guy with the grey goatee are a cope. When is one of us with power and influence going to stand up and stop hiding behind a non-white to take up our cause. If you are reading this, an army of pissed off and determined people in the tens of millions is going to roar, have your back and many will go shoulder to shoulder with you. You have a historic opportunity that is even greater than the existential threat presented to King Alfred and his nobles.What are you waiting for?
Moran ya Simba #374407 October 20, 2023 11:37 am 0
Excellent comment. For some guy somewhere, probably as yet unknown, historical Laurens of unsurpassed splendor, await if he can dodge the torrent of slander, lawfare and obviously assassination attempts that will be used against anyone gaining traction. All of the above are being used or prepared against the faux plastic version Trump. Imagine what they would use against a serious man with genuine intent
RealityRules #374411 October 20, 2023 11:42 am 0
Yes. They can use it against Trump because he is not that man that I describe. Trump is so busy “centering” a bunch of Diamond and Silks in every speech and photo op he is hopeless. The real deal, an American Dries van Langenhove will arrive. When he does he will withstand the storm because tens of millions of people who have been dying for him will ensure he withstands it. That man is coming. The sooner the better.
Moran ya Simba #374424 October 20, 2023 12:00 pm 0
I suspect they are trying to kill them in the cradle. Our enemies are evil, not stupid (in that way, they are stupid in other ways). Every time you hear of a “white nationalist” coming to a grievous end, from anything ranging from freak accidents to IRS audits, consider the possibility of preemption.
c matt #374416 October 20, 2023 11:51 am 0
If the rules brought you to this, of what use are the rules?
Richard Allen Waldo #374440 October 20, 2023 1:05 pm 0
“This country will kill you in a heartbeat and still people love it.”
Ostei Kozelskii #374457 October 20, 2023 2:23 pm 0
Hello, Mr. Chigurh. May I call you Anton?
Shrinking Violet #374385 October 20, 2023 10:58 am 0
Who says? The short answer is: our friends in the tiny hats. They immigrated to USA in the early and middle 2oth century, and developed a huge case of butt-hurt because they didm’t fit in. Rather than feel gratitude for be allowed here in the first place, they concocted a (“Kalergi”) plan to swamp Christendom with other races and faiths, so that their huge noses, tiny hats, and self-important crassness would be less conspicuous. being a Pharisaical, rule-based bunch to begin with, they found it easy to rewrite all our cultural norms to advantage themselves. I still remember the territorial markers they threw down in the sixties, in advertising, film, comedy, and other media. It was clear even then that an alien presence was announcing itself, and it has grown in influence since then, to the point that it is the invisible water we swim in. it makes no logical sense because it never was about logic, fairness, or OUR traditions. If was always warfare in disguise. The declining numbers of Christians and whites shows that we are losing that war.
Left Coast Inmate #374393 October 20, 2023 11:13 am 0
Blaming Jews for the West’s morality issues is ridiculous. There’s a straight line from Enlightenment thought, as espoused in the Declaration of Independence, to an open borders welfare state worshipping societies ‘most oppressed’. Neofeudal Liberalism (who frequently comments here and various other forums) has written much about the Egalitarian ratchet effect, and I agree that the root cause of this in the West is Christian morality.
Ostei Kozelskii #374397 October 20, 2023 11:18 am 0
And yet the West managed to soldier along just fine for almost 2,000 years after the advent of Christianity. To the extent Christianity is fundamentally egalitarian–and this is a topic of hot debate–it may have provided one precondition for the West’s collapse, but it was hardly sufficient on its own.
Left Coast Inmate #374409 October 20, 2023 11:41 am 0
It absolutely didn’t ‘soldier on just fine’ for 2,000 years. It was always a slave and victim morality, worshipping the weak rather than having a strong, warrior culture as found in Greece and Rome. It’s always been about turning the other cheek, doing nothing (aka trust the plan) because your reward is in the afterlife, and bring in the refugees! But yes, perhaps there is a genetic component that made Westerners susceptible to this line of thinking, they did historically evolve in environments that required trusting others.
c matt #374413 October 20, 2023 11:49 am 0
Guess you missed that whole “Crusades” thing.
Moran ya Simba #374429 October 20, 2023 12:10 pm 0
Not to mention the “let’s conquer and subjugate the entire world between 1500 and 1900” thing.
Ploppy #374441 October 20, 2023 1:10 pm 0
@c matt: A large amount of the Crusades was just Christians attacking other Christians. It wasn’t the great based Catholic Exterminatus against Muzzies of our fantasies. I think the Czechs had to fight off like four crusades just because the Hussites figured out the “hey these priests are just collecting bribes” thing before everyone else. So really it was the same European tendency to start wars among themselves over moralfagging as usual.
Ostei Kozelskii #374458 October 20, 2023 2:30 pm 0
Utter nonsense. In the main, Western culture was inegalitarian and warrior-based at least until the French Revolution. And even after that, those older structures persisted to a very significant degree into the 1960s. In other words, throughout the vast majority of its history, the West was the very opposite of what it is today.
Moran ya Simba #374414 October 20, 2023 11:50 am 0
As someone who for historical heritage reasons would have preferred Europeans to have retained indigenous belief systems instead of importing monotheistic Semitic religions from the ME in the form of Christianity, I have to concede that Europe under the Cross obtained undisputed global hegemony. So Christianity cannot empirically be an impediment to strategic and demographic success.
NoOneAtAll #374472 October 20, 2023 3:25 pm 0
Christianity is egalitarian is the sort of idea that would only occur to a low church protestant in very recent years.When you go to church and literally bow and kiss the hand of people LITERALLY called HEIRARCHS this is not the sort of idea that occurs to you.Its also a slander on traditional protestantism which was happy enough with kings and bishops or even just the elders of the community leading things. Christianity is not rock bands and self help books although one could be forgiven for thinking that NOW in terms of what is allowed to be mainstream.Education wasnt previously spinsters telling your son to castrate himself, music wasnt joggers repetitively rhyming about their penis, ads werent mudshark girl bosses insulting potential customers.Everything is being poisoned now, at least everything that the (((media))) allows to exist in the public square. Not a reflection on the thing itself
c matt #374410 October 20, 2023 11:41 am 0
It is not ridiculous. It is accurate. It may have been built into the Enlightenment cake, but respect for Western civilization and tradition allowed that cake to be kept in the fridge and only small portions consumed. Someone destroyed the respect for Western Civ and its traditions, and replaced every meal with this cake after adulterating it with fake ingredients.To some extent, yes – the West is to blame for allowing it to happen. But that does not diminish the fault of the perpetrators any more than leaving your car unlocked on MLK Blvd excuses the jogger who stole it.
Moran ya Simba #374420 October 20, 2023 11:54 am 0
Having pondered the JQ for some time, I’ve concluded that it is neither as delusional or paranoid as some dissidents who are allergic to it, insist. Nor as omnipotently explanatory as it’s most zealous advocates claim. It seems relevant but not sufficient.
Joan Didion #374460 October 20, 2023 2:34 pm 0
I blame the French.
Davidcito #374508 October 20, 2023 9:53 pm 0
It’s women voting. We practically doubled their lifespan after the discovery of germ theory, gave them the right to vote, and passed affirmative action laws cramming them and their influence into every institution from government agencies to corporations and marketing departments. Now they outlive us and outvote us. (((The usual suspects))) have the exact same personality types as women, which is why it’s hard to tease out who is influencing who. High openness, high agreeableness, high neuroticism all explain what’s been happening to our civilization pretty accurately. Mix in a growing POC population and we’re essentially taking power away from white men, the guys who built everything, and giving an outsized influence to those who achieved nothing throughout history, women and POCs.
Shrinking Violet #374430 October 20, 2023 12:12 pm 0
it’s a plain fact that this tiny minority dominates ever important western institution: banking, media, the academy, law, and most governments (including our own). They even brag about it themselves, though they attribute it to hard work and intelligence rather than iron-clad in-group preference among themselves, combined with weaponizing the host society’s morality and culture against itself. We should not have allowed this, but shoulda-woulda-coulda isn‘t going to help us now. Especially when a lot of people (like you) remain in denial.
Pozymandias #374535 October 21, 2023 6:50 pm 0
Whenever I think about this stuff I tend to reflect that losing your country and culture to the Huns, or the Vikings is at least understandable. Losing it to Mort Finkelstein Attorney at law and his drugged out cousin Lenny who makes dirty movies and rents run down apartments to the Puerto Ricans just seems like a special kind of pathetic. Maybe that was it. The old straightforward means of conquest wouldn’t have worked but this roundabout passive aggressive approach was something we had no plan for.
fakeemail #374423 October 20, 2023 11:58 am 0
Edward Bernays. “century of the self” documentary on youtube
Melissa #374381 October 20, 2023 10:45 am 0
The Smithsonian museum apologized for saying hard work, rational thought is White Culture. These people are ridiculous and hilarious.Far too many true crime podcasts jumped onto the anti-racism wagon, particularly after St. George Floyd. When the stories are introduced as occurring in a safe area with low crime, they could save time by just referring it to as an area where White people live. When they begin by discussing neighbors hearing gun shots but not calling the police because those sounds are a daily occurrence… Or maybe they can’t hear over the sound of the chirping smoke detectors.Those fantastic discussions with Gregory Hood and Chris Roberts were “Left, Right, and White”, by the way.Have a great weekend and enjoy October’s Bright Blue Weather.
miforest #374371 October 20, 2023 10:06 am 0
this is OT , but this isa great history of the isreali nuke and Bio weapons programs ,and also lays out how they exert so much power in DC . well worth the time .https://odysee.com/@Blackpilled:b/inuke:0
TomA #374365 October 20, 2023 9:41 am 0
Once upon a time in our species’ evolutionary history, ancient wisdom was passed down through generations; and if you learned it, internalized it, and applied it, it more-often-than-not enhanced your ability to survive and thrive in your local environment. This meant that you typically got to pass on your genes to offspring, and over time, your cohort of the species benefited. This was a mechanistic outcome that required no other basis for validity or justification; it was just the natural reality of life on Earth.But the mechanics of passing on wisdom between generations is a man-made invention; and the better its done, the better the outcome. History demonstrates that this teaching process works best when there is consistency of messaging, frequent repetition, and a punishment/reward feedback loop. Those are the essentials, but there are many ways to skin that cat. For example, religion works very nicely to accomplish these goals. All the great religions have a tome which embodies message consistency. Most require repetitive recitation, gestures, and attendance. And praise/penance provides an effective feedback reinforcement. Finally, the concept of a god solves all the problems of unknowns and inconsistencies.Where am I going with this? The concept of “moral authority” is an ephemeral abstraction and not a transcendent reality. What persists is what works. Get off your high horse and smell the coffee. Reality doesn’t give a shit about your moral arrogance and rationalizations. You are not God Emperor of the Universe.
Ostei Kozelskii #374373 October 20, 2023 10:16 am 0
Abstract morality is a very tricky subject, and I’m still working out my position on it. Tentatively, I believe that there is an abstract absolute morality that is timeless and immaculate. It is probably rooted in the Godhead, although secular types could see its basis in Platonic forms.At any rate, human beings cannot know absolutely absolute morality. We don’t have the intellectual puissance, and language itself may be inadequate to the task of expressing absolute morality, even if we could grasp it. The only thing we can do is grope toward absolute morality in the hope of approaching it. But the knowledge that we can never reach it should caution us against imposing our moral system upon others, let alone on pain of mass destruction and death.And that brings me to the point that different cultural groups–basically races and sometimes ethnicities–develop different moral systems that they believe produce the best results for themselves. (They may also believe them in an absolute sense.) Now all of these moral systems are flawed to one degree or another, but the fact that they are believed fervently and are rooted in millennia of continuous discrete existence means that attempting to impose an alien system upon them is not merely foolhardy, but in most cases harmful. The propensity to do so is probably the West’s greatest historical failing, and it persists to this day.
TomA #374390 October 20, 2023 11:10 am 0
You are describing faith in an ideal. Which is another way of saying that you choose to adhere to this ideal despite any doubts or inconsistencies that may arise in your life. And you are likely descended from ancestors that had similarly adopted this mode of thinking, adhered to local ancient wisdom, lived to reproduce, and pass on their genes to you. As such, the proclivity toward a “faith” like behavior may well be encoded in your genes. Therefore, this behavior (mental habit actually) is an innate part of who you are, and not a volitional choice per se. That is how you get to an ongoing moral framework which appears eternal in the moment.
Ostei Kozelskii #374399 October 20, 2023 11:26 am 0
You are far more deterministic than I. I fully accept that genetic structures create pronounced tendencies for cultural groups, but I also believe there is room for individual freedom–and more particularly, independent thought–within broader genetic bounds. My race tends me toward general modes of behavior, but does not necessitate that I be a Platonist, a Christian or a postmodernist.
c matt #374401 October 20, 2023 11:29 am 0
There do seem to be some rather universal moral absolutes. The details may differ. I am not aware of any group that, for example, espouses the killing of the innocent just to kill the innocent. Now, groups may differ on who qualifies as innocent, and whether there is a greater justification for killing them, but not on the basic premise (of course, there are always individual sociopath outliers, but they are not the society).
TomA #374454 October 20, 2023 2:14 pm 0
It would appear that evolution does not reward the murder of innocents as being a successful behavior for enhancing the survival of a species. Seems intuitive to me.
Ploppy #374443 October 20, 2023 1:19 pm 0
My conclusion was that the only absolute is Natural Law. Human morality works or doesn’t based on the degree to which it comports with Natural Law. As an example, jerking off doesn’t make God, Odin, or Saint Floyd angry since those are all allegorical constructs that we use to make the moral code relatable by anthropomorphizing nature. Jerking off does lower your motivation to go out and find a nice lady with whom to make White children though, so with respect to nature’s drive to propagate yourself it is sinful.
Eloi #374421 October 20, 2023 11:56 am 0
For some reason, probably the part about internalizing, your post made me think of Walter Ong. Most ancient wisdom was passed through generation orally, not textually, resulting in a much more intimate experience between generations and storyteller/audience in the process of internalizing. If you have never read Ong’s Orality and Literacy, you may want to pick up a copy. The text talks about the fundamental difference between primary oral and primary literate cultures. The book is fascinating.
TomA #374456 October 20, 2023 2:21 pm 0
All nurturing begins as verbal because literacy comes much later in life. And societal scale literacy has only been with us for a few centuries. Most religious training is conducted in a class-like setting in which oral messaging is still primary. Religious tomes are a codification of uniformity in messaging more so than a text book for teaching. Most people read the bible only once, if that.
Eloi #374544 October 22, 2023 7:58 pm 0
Yes, but the impact of literacy is incalculable upon our view of language. You should really check out his book. From our youngest days, language has a visual component (reading to child). For oral culture, this does not exist, etc.
NoOneAtAll #374476 October 20, 2023 3:37 pm 0
“Where am I going with this? The concept of “moral authority” is an ephemeral abstraction and not a transcendent reality. What persists is what works. Get off your high horse and smell the coffee. Reality doesn’t give a shit about your moral arrogance and rationalizations.”Well I guess go ahead an be a shitlib then because if you dont believe in morality theyre clearly winning. Better yet be a david french style shabbos goy since licking their boots got him famous and a high paying prestigious NYTimes gig… whereas our moral compunctions about this will get you fired if you so much as voice them publicly
TomA #374495 October 20, 2023 7:05 pm 0
I think you misunderstand my comment. My argument is that morality is a man-made invention and not an eternal and immutable law of nature like gravity or the speed of light. It exists and persists whenever it “works” in the sense of enhancing the survive and thrive imperatives of a specific cohort of the population. Yes, there can be a lot of overlap all across the planet, but not a one size fits all.
Arshad Ali #374360 October 20, 2023 9:18 am 0
“This new moral framework, however, does not rest on a legitimate moral foundation.”You mean it does not rest on any kind of empirical foundation. I’m reminded of Andrew Anglin’s post that there’s only one breed of dog:https://dailystormer.in/theres-only-one-breed-of-dog-the-dog-breed/Speaking of research into race differences, I was intrigued to find that it’s active in Israel. I stumbled upon Raphael Falk’s book, “Zionism and the Biology of Jews” a few days ago. Falk is an Israeli geneticist. If a German geneticist was doing the same kind of work in Germany the shrieks and howls of the Boeoticians would be deafening.But coming back to the subject of today’s post, the stale old adage is that race is skin-deep. Yet all our experience points unequivocally in the opposite direction: it’s definitely more than skin-deep.
thezman #374389 October 20, 2023 11:06 am 0
No, I mean it does not rest a recognized moral foundation. None exists within the Christian context. It obviously cannot exist with Judaism. That leaves tradition, custom and mutual consent. We can say that actively discriminating against people on the basis of race goes against our sense of fair play, but we stop well short of saying fair play demands you live next to a family of Korean ginger midgets.Frankly, race and the rest of the items in the culture war are way to keep the busy bodies in the managerial class busy. In a better age, these people were sent off as missionaries or as mercenaries in foreign wars. Now they are sent to a grievance studies department or the HR department of your company, tasked with tormenting the Dirt People.
Jack Dodson #374357 October 20, 2023 9:10 am 0
Events either will force Normiecons/Grillers’ hands or they will perish. These people cannot be deprogrammed in the conventional sense but they either will be forced into reality or they will suffer from their racial delusions. The rest of us (and this also includes them, even if they cannot yet acknowledge the reason) need to continue to sort and separate because it is all imploding and there is nothing that will reverse the inevitable collapse. The Ruling Class might try to lessen the oppression of white dhimmitude as a Hail Mary but they already are screwed, too.As an aside, how long until the Smithsonian has its first drive-by in the event that has not happened yet? I would wager there at least have been lesser forms of chimp-outs .
george 1 #374380 October 20, 2023 10:43 am 0
What I have noticed since this manufactured ME crisis is that Normicon can become quite bloodthirsty. At least the ones I know talk that way with regard to “Wiping out” the Palestinians. Now if we could get them to have that attitude when it comes to their own destruction as much as they have it for Israel, we might have something.
shaken not stirred but definitely muddled #374382 October 20, 2023 10:46 am 0
If the groids were canny they’d be carting out fine art paintings from the museums as we speak, there’s little the few curators could do to stop them. But then, you can’t sell a Vermeer on ebay.
Ostei Kozelskii #374402 October 20, 2023 11:30 am 0
But you might be able to trade it for a 40-dawg, a carton of Newports, and a set of rims for your 1981 Eldorado with the shattered taillight and the blown head gasket.
KGB #374408 October 20, 2023 11:40 am 0
A groid entering a museum is probably confronted with the same feelings of dread and horror that you or I would have going to a hip-hop house party.
JerseyJeffersonian #374446 October 20, 2023 1:40 pm 0
Eh, but once the full-blown rioting starts, their hatred for Whitey would take over.I live near Philadelphia, and consequently have as a reference point the Philadelphia Museum of Art, located at the end of the Benjamin Franklin Parkway but, as are most things in Philly, located perilously close to large concentrations of Australopithecines. If the Board were anything other than craven adherents of The Narrative, they would be laying plans to move the collection out of this city.Oh, and not incidentally, the world-famous Barnes Collection, with its fabulous collection of Impressionist art, was strong-armed out of its original, much safer site beyond the city limit of Philadelphia onto a location on the Benjamin Franklin Parkway near the PMA, largely through the connivance of former Philly mayor, (((Ed Rendell))). Gee, thanks, Fast Eddie, for making this collection vulnerable to the chimp out to outdo all chimp outs, too. All it took was conniving to overturn the will of Alfred Barnes, who went against the critics of the day to develop this institution. (In the words of Devo, “teachers and critics all dance the poot”, true then, and even moreso now…)
Jack Dodson #374449 October 20, 2023 1:46 pm 0
While the Smithsonian anti-racism sideshow is in part calculated to soothe black sensibilities, its target audience is Post-Modern whites who feel the need to self-flagellate at freak exhibitions like this one. I don’t know for certain, as previously noted, if there has been a drive-by at the Smithsonian yet, but I will gaurant-fucking-tee you that there are busloads of whites who claim their lives were changed by it. A few generations ago these same types were into crystals. With Kendri going tits up, they may be looking for new masochistic kinks. We’ll see if that is the start of a trend.
Citizen of a Silly Country #374355 October 20, 2023 9:05 am 0
The race-aware folks who remain colorblind CivNats are a fascinating group. It’s why I still haunt the comments section of Steve Sailer.Once you understand that they remain stuck in the old morality, it makes a lot more sense. They square the circle of racial differences and colorblind civic nationalism by falling back to libertarianism. “Sure, there are average racial differences, but individuals of every race call fall anywhere on the bell curve so if you just treat everyone equally under the law in a colorblind way, society will be fine.”It’s how Sailer can be against the anti-white agenda while not being pro-white. Indeed, he, like Charles Murray, is fervently against whites joining the identity politics game, probably because he knows that once that happens, his colorblind civic nationalism dream is truly dead. (It’s already dead, but he can’t see that.)Their argument has a number of obvious practical flaws, but when you point out those flaws to them, they act like any blue-haired Leftist by pointing and sputtering about you being a racist, i.e., they say that I’m bad because I’m going against their morality.I used to have a lot fun getting a rise out them, but that gum is losing its flavor. They’ll never change because their morality allows them to feel intellectually superior to both the Left and the Right (“I’m smart enough and clear-headed enough to notice racial difference while they’re not.”) and morally superior to racists like me.
Archie Parr #374362 October 20, 2023 9:26 am 0
Spot on. The conservative who has black friends believes himself to be the most enlightened, free-thinking, liberal of them all. To his right are unreconstructed races of every political ideology — horrible, horrible people, all of them, and not to be tolerated. To them, anyone who speaks about race *is* racist.I’ve slowly come to believe, with age and observation of the ideas that remain most salient in the minds of my normie friends from childhood indoctrination and education, that the colorblind myth planted in the 1970s and 1980s was the most potent seed of all. It IS their worldview; they see the world through a race-based “I don’t see race” delusional prism. And this infuses ALL of their other beliefs, because, well, anybody expressing an opinion on anything has skin color, and that’s the first thing the NormieCon looks for to determine how he’s going to respond to what’s being said — can they leverage it to a point where they can accuse the other person of racism?This is endemic now, it’s everywhere, you never know who’s going to drop it on you in any conversation. Unfortunately I’m beginning to fear that only time and the grave solves this problem. You can’t cure two or three generations of a worldview they’ve held since adolescence.
Jack Dobson #374363 October 20, 2023 9:31 am 0
Conservatards rightfully deride lefty nonsense such as transgenderism as “luxury beliefs.” Ironically, the racial denial conservatards espouse is the ultimate luxury belief and one that can prove fatal.
LineInTheSand #374418 October 20, 2023 11:52 am 0
My Mom used to love to watch Oprah. I would smile to myself and think, “Mom is spending time with her imaginary black friend.” Just like with conservatives praising Thomas Sowell, my Mom seemed to feel this inner satisfaction in demonstrating to herself and to the world that she is not racist, as she tries to ignore the evidence that her lying eyes report about who commits crime and who is not very intelligent.
fakeemail #374428 October 20, 2023 12:08 pm 0
I was disgusted with women who watched Oprah (or Geraldo, or Donahue or the rest that followed into the 90s). Even back in the day when Oprah could have a decent show and wasn’t balls-out “woke”, it was clear to me that generations of white women watching a liberal black lesbian would not lead to good things.
Ostei Kozelskii #374465 October 20, 2023 2:49 pm 0
Gawd, Donohue. The Hawkeye Pierce of talk-show hosts. And my Lefty mom loved him, of course.
WhereAreTheVikings #374496 October 20, 2023 7:55 pm 0
Lesbian biker nuns, anybody?
Brandon Lasko #374521 October 21, 2023 12:52 am 0
Hasn’t Oprah been married to some dude named Stedman for decades?
Ostei Kozelskii #374463 October 20, 2023 2:47 pm 0
Absolutely. My maternal grandmother was the same about Oprah. I think that she, and doubtless millions of others of her generation, watched Oprah in expiation of the “sin” of their former racism. They didn’t have the stomach to actually go forth and scrub the tootsies of the Hutus in da’ hood, but they could tell all and sundry just how much they looooved Oprah. Just another form of virtue signaling, alas, and all borne of anti-white guilt tripping.
Wolf Barney #374372 October 20, 2023 10:14 am 0
Sailer doesn’t “notice” the effect of the West rapidly becoming more brown, and therefore more race-centric. He’s stuck in the 1980’s and the demographics then. (He even said the other day that he’s not very knowledgeable about music after the 80’s.) With the quick demographic change, everything will increasingly be about race. Whites are now attacked more than ever on the basis of race, so defending ourselves and advocating for ourselves under the same terms is justified and the only way forward. How does a “noticer” not understand that?
JerseyJeffersonian #374448 October 20, 2023 1:46 pm 0
He accomplishes this trick through turbocharged,selectivenoticing. It works every time.
Evil Sandmich #374477 October 20, 2023 3:38 pm 0
Reminds me of when I’d occasionally go to Frontpage comments which disabused me of the notion that Jews are immune to their own propaganda, that in fact some of them don’t even think it’s propaganda (“It HAS to be true!”).
Yman #374523 October 21, 2023 8:09 am 0
they are morally superior only when Jewish power structure allows, and that time is goneCivinat or liberal doesn’t matter, their usefulness is done and too expensiveEventually they are all getting Derek Chauvin treatment for reasons of being white Chinese and Hindus laugh at white helot once known as the conqueror of worldsJust you know that you had chance to massacre Jews before all of this mess happened
Evil Sandmich #374354 October 20, 2023 8:58 am 0
Ahh the great (and I am not being snide) Thomas Sowell. Whenever conservatives bring him up as their foil against unpleasant race thinkers like myself (“I’d gladly live in a neighborhood of Thomas Sowells”, etc.) I always have to ask them if they don’t think its odd that the only example they can find to negate the observation of group differences is a 90-year old black man.
ArthurinCali #374364 October 20, 2023 9:37 am 0
In regards to Thomas Sowell yes, he has written quite a few books (I have read most of them) that give a wealth of knowledge and insights, especially his historical analysis. But I agree entirely with you that it is tiresome to hear the worn-out canard from vanilla conservatives that hold him up as a universal example. When the number of “Conservative” intellectual blacks can be counted on one hand across the entire country, they may as well be unicorns, not the future trend.
Compsci #374419 October 20, 2023 11:53 am 0
I have never held TS up as a “universal” example, only defended him for what he is—a damn good academic and thinker. What any number of, if not all his detractors, have been guilty of is denying his accomplishments *simply because* he is a Black man. Morality aside, this is simply foolish. He is an exceptional (Black) intellect, one of all too few.Ironically, if one really is familiar with the numerous (early) works of Sowell, you will find that TS is himself a covert “race realist”! All one needs to do is read his studies/writings on the mixing of races vis a vis immigration and the conflicts such creates especially when one race is superior in accomplishments than the indigenous population. It doesn’t take a genius to fill in the missing *blank*, IQ—which includes aspects of behavioral proclivities—to adequately identify the root cause of such conflict/differences.Of course Sowell would deny this and indeed because of his standing in the academic field, is a noted apologist for race differences in IQ. Recently his restated denial of innate, genetic differences between Blacks and Whites was taken on by Edward Dutton:https://youtu.be/S5RlUs1o4YI?si=nan4KC3H0NxyiaX3Note that Dutton, while taking TS to task, refers to him as “intelligent and thoughtful” as I do myself. He’s “just plain wrong” on this subject of genetic differences in race. Would you not expect such from a Black man?
Compsci #374422 October 20, 2023 11:57 am 0
(This comment may appear twice. Seems the first banished into the void)I have never held TS up as a “universal” example, only defended him for what he is—a damn good academic and thinker. What any number of, if not all his detractors, have been guilty of is denying his accomplishments *simply because* he is a Black man. Morality aside, this is simply foolish. He is an exceptional (Black) intellect, one of all too few.Ironically, if one really is familiar with the numerous (early) works of Sowell, you will find that TS is himself a covert “race realist”! All one needs to do is read his studies/writings on the mixing of races vis a vis immigration and the conflicts such creates especially when one race is superior in accomplishments than the indigenous population. It doesn’t take a genius to fill in the missing *blank*, IQ—which includes aspects of behavioral proclivities—to adequately identify the root cause of such conflict/differences.Of course Sowell would deny this and indeed because of his standing in the academic field, is a noted apologist for race differences in IQ. Recently his restated denial of innate, genetic differences between Blacks and Whites was taken on by Edward Dutton:https://youtu.be/S5RlUs1o4YI?si=nan4KC3H0NxyiaX3Note that Dutton, while taking TS to task, refers to him as “intelligent and thoughtful” as I do myself. He’s “just plain wrong” on this subject of genetic differences in race. Would you not expect such from a Black man?
Compsci #374426 October 20, 2023 12:02 pm 0
(Another posting try. Seems—I suspect—I’m being dropped due to including a URI. Forgive the redundancy)I have never held TS up as a “universal” example, only defended him for what he is—a damn good academic and thinker. What any number of, if not all his detractors, have been guilty of is denying his accomplishments *simply because* he is a Black man. Morality aside, this is simply foolish. He is an exceptional (Black) intellect, one of all too few.Ironically, if one really is familiar with the numerous (early) works of Sowell, you will find that TS is himself a covert “race realist”! All one needs to do is read his studies/writings on the mixing of races vis a vis immigration and the conflicts such creates especially when one race is superior in accomplishments than the indigenous population. It doesn’t take a genius to fill in the missing *blank*, IQ—which includes aspects of behavioral proclivities—to adequately identify the root cause of such conflict/differences.Of course Sowell would deny this and indeed because of his standing in the academic field, is a noted apologist for race differences in IQ. Recently his restated denial of innate, genetic differences between Blacks and Whites was taken on by Edward Dutton:(I’ve deleted the URL to Dutton’s rebuttal I. Hopes of passing the comment filter. You can search YT on Sowell/Dutton)Note that Dutton, while taking TS to task, refers to him as “intelligent and thoughtful” as I do myself. He’s “just plain wrong” on this subject of genetic differences in race. Would you not expect such from a Black man?
3g4me #374367 October 20, 2023 9:53 am 0
Evil: Noted. Not to mention one hears nothing of the never-achieved greatness of his black children. Or that his second wife is White. Or that his biggest racial insight’ was that black dysfunction is a result of copying the behavior and morals of the Scots-Irish (i.e. when it comes to race realism. he’s ultimately a fraud).
Evil Sandmich #374394 October 20, 2023 11:14 am 0
I would lightly disagree as he’s probably just the black version of the guy Z talked about on the podcast, a turbo-normie who will make all his observations fit into his canned worldview that happens to be the same worldview of everyone else that he knows. His rosy view on black dysfunction backs this up since it would appear that he views lesser skilled blacks the same way whites usually view lesser skilled whites: that a lack of effort accounts for their plight.
Ploppy #374444 October 20, 2023 1:22 pm 0
Uncle Ruckus (no relation) is the only truly based black. Shame he’s a fictional character.
Ostei Kozelskii #374374 October 20, 2023 10:24 am 0
You’d have to comb through several million negroes to cobble together a nabe full of Sowells. And I’m not joking. Or, you could just live in a typical, white, middle class neighborhood.
c matt #374386 October 20, 2023 10:59 am 0
The exception that proves the rule. I can also point to a few small hats. Just like NAXALT is the wrong way to look at things, the correct way to look at it is EXALT (Enough X Are Like That) to cause an issue. If you can only find 1 out 10 cookies that is not poisonous (being generous), who TF is going to eat one from that batch?
LineInTheSand #374406 October 20, 2023 11:36 am 0
Around five years ago, the TRS guys did this hilarious riff on all the conservatives who say that they would welcome Thomas Sowell as a neighbor. They said they were going to set up “Thomas Sowell Realty” in which they would buy Thomas Sowell a bunch of houses and then sell the neighboring properties to the civ nats at a high markup.
Xman #374351 October 20, 2023 8:49 am 0
Speaking of “not our gods”… Israeli Jew says the “Godly thing” according to the Torah is to kill Christians: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lq28ZFNzaWM
Anna #374353 October 20, 2023 8:54 am 0
Hello????? There were no Christians when G-d gave Torah to the Jews. The first Christians (all of them Jews) appeared 1500 years later.
3g4me #374368 October 20, 2023 9:58 am 0
Anna
george 1 #374384 October 20, 2023 10:58 am 0
This is a great little clip on the history of the Holy Land. It makes my normie friends “uncomfortable” when I show it to them. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-evIyrrjTTY
Apex Predator #374447 October 20, 2023 1:45 pm 0
Top kek. This will be saved in the “future shitposting” file. A nice summary of the Middle East in a 3 minute vid.
Disruptor #374392 October 20, 2023 11:12 am 0
Abrahamsters running in their wheels. How cute!
Anna #374437 October 20, 2023 12:44 pm 0
How convinient to forget that every single Apostle was Jewish
Xman #374445 October 20, 2023 1:37 pm 0
Oh, here we go again with the “Jesus and his disciples were Jews” shit.Jesus was tortured to death at the request of the Sanhedrin because he rejected the fundamental principal of Judaism — that Jews are the “Chosen People of God” — and instead believed that any righteous man, Jew or Gentile, would be saved by God. Not in the “Promised Land of Israel,” but in the afterlife.He also exposed the temple-coin scam that the crooked Jew Pharisees and rabbis were running and cost them a lot of money. So, like the gangsters that they were, they had him offed.Properly understood, Christianity is anti-Judaism.
Anna #374475 October 20, 2023 3:32 pm 0
Old Testament is a translation of the Torah. Don’t believe me? Ask your religious advisor.
george 1 #374478 October 20, 2023 3:59 pm 0
True Anna. However something happened after Christ died. Something wonderful.
george 1 #374376 October 20, 2023 10:32 am 0
The man is explaining that anyone not Jewish should be killed. He just used Christians as an example because the people he was talking to were Christians. Obviously!!
Anna #374469 October 20, 2023 3:20 pm 0
Some man in the airport says something ignorant. The usual response: Jews want to kill Christians. Start Pogrom!That man in the airport also does not know that at the time Torah was given, the Christians were 1500 years away.Christianity improved the world greatly, as they brought the morality of 10 commandments to the 100s of millions of people.But the people who preferred to remain Jewish have not believed that Jesus was a messiah and they wait for their own.For that believe they were burned alive, expelled and made 3d class citizens.To each one : their own.
george 1 #374479 October 20, 2023 4:02 pm 0
Anna, The Jewish guy said it. Not us.
LineInTheSand #374425 October 20, 2023 12:00 pm 0
Anna, do you agree with the interpretation of the Torah that the man on camera explains? If not, why not?
JerseyJeffersonian #374450 October 20, 2023 1:53 pm 0
Waiting, waiting, still waiting. I hope that you are not holding your breath in anticipation of a reply.
Anna #374470 October 20, 2023 3:22 pm 0
The reply is above for some reason.
Chet Rollins #374347 October 20, 2023 8:45 am 0
Listened to some of the Taylor interview, but got exhausted listening to the guest. Didn’t even get angry, but was the same feel I get listening to someone talking about spirit crystals, just so separated from any reality one might as well listen to random words being spouted. Don’t understand how people can hate-watch woke T.V. shows for the same reason. Thy are so disconnected from human experience it might as well be those creepy AI burger commercials.
Filthie #374358 October 20, 2023 9:13 am 0
No chit. I’m on OyTube where I see endless vids where our moral and intellectual superiors like Ben Shapiro/Candace Owens/Matt Walsh talking head – DESTROYS rabid faggot/trannie/feminist/pervert…I just click past them. It’s like Z says…why are these issues and people even a thing? Why should I even acknowledge these idiot’s existence, let alone waste my time debating or trying to reason with morons? Where, at the end of a clever debate, Charlie Kirk “brilliantly proves” that a woman is a woman? Ugh! It makes ya want to scream. I have better things to do…
Tom K #374346 October 20, 2023 8:41 am 0
I had previously listened to that interview. The author was producing “revelations” a laAlien Nation(1996) like he had just discovered them for the first time. Then that intermarriage claim. How “adjacent” is a guy like this? I took it he was an older gentleman. I heartily dislike my fellow Boomers.
ProZNoV #374345 October 20, 2023 8:39 am 0
All I know is I don’t want to live around Group X, because they’re quite emphatic in word and deed about how they hate me and mine. They sure want to live around me though. Revealed preference rears it’s ugly head again.
Evil Sandmich #374356 October 20, 2023 9:05 am 0
Yeah I’ve never gotten a good comeback to the quip “you know who else doesn’t want to live around black people? Black people”.(Reminds me of a “based black guy married to a white woman” who was on Gab for like a day and had to quit because of posts like “I think black women are ugly, and you know who else thinks that? You.”
Ostei Kozelskii #374375 October 20, 2023 10:32 am 0
In terms of physical appearance, there’s just not a great deal of difference between black males and females. With every other race, the sexual dimorphism is far greater.
Evil Sandmich #374396 October 20, 2023 11:17 am 0
Whenever I see a white man-black woman couple (*shudder*) I remark that “someone should have told him not to marry his prostitute”.
fakeemail #374435 October 20, 2023 12:26 pm 0
Well, most men do just that. . .
Hemid #374404 October 20, 2023 11:34 am 0
The first journalistic moral panic about “AI” was about the inability of our future robot overlords to understand that pictures of black women aren’t pictures of men. This was back when women were still a thing.The later outrage about pictures of black people being labeled as pictures of gorillas was the big one, but it’s easily explained as the “AI” categorizing photographs, not animals. Optionally, it can then be decided that photography was a racist invention—an invention whose purpose, now finally revealed by AI (the repressed mind of whiteness), was “proving” that black people and gorillas look alike! (This has in fact been decided. Kids learn it in school, if they go to a Good School.)But as almost every tranny murder demonstrates, *nobody* can reliably tell black men and women apart.Future Sailer column: the Great Trooning (or whatever he calls it), whose vanguard emerged from Silicon Valley, conveniently allows AI to ignore the racially fraught subject of biological sex as apparent difference. Follow the money!
Libdis #374343 October 20, 2023 8:22 am 0
So, a Taylor’s answer to the present situation is roll back everything to 1950, Johnson wants to make a white homeland, etc etc. What is your style of dissidents answer for the white mans current dilemma? Our situation is not going to get better, no matter what happens next election. Are there any solutions? Answers? Plans to survive as they hunt us, which they have clearly started to do? We can talk about things until we are blue (black) in the face. If we don’t start approaching things with some sort of actual plan, where will we end up?
Chet Rollins #374344 October 20, 2023 8:38 am 0
With gen-Z demographics the racial makeup issue is lost. The only solution now is create de-facto homogenous communities, which means making freedom of association a thing again. Since this will never happen legally, the only recourse is euphemisms and code-words. Think “better schools” on steroids.As D.C. grows more corrupt and insular, it’s going to become impossible to strike down all the hydra heads as they come up around their empire, leading to communities doing things that are technically illegal, but due to them being able to actually function (and a little bit of under the table bribing), the locals look the other way.
Jack Dodson #374352 October 20, 2023 8:53 am 0
This is spot on. There will be tremendous anti-white oppression, but it largely will be impotent toward the end. The emergence of Colony Ridge garrisons filled with illegal aliens in the boondocks is one futile attempt to plug these holes. D.C. is a dead letter. The rest of the world realized this some years back, and that glaringly obvious fact has become undeniable now even to CivNats. It is an unavoidable, self-inflicted trainwreck now and what follows is all that matters.
KGB #374359 October 20, 2023 9:15 am 0
BTW, when will the Imperial Capital change its name to “The District Of Indiginous Peoples”?
Jack Dodson #374361 October 20, 2023 9:21 am 0
I prefer “District of Color.”
3 Pipe Problem #374369 October 20, 2023 10:04 am 0
Dunno, but in the ancient days, penning a weekly entertaining, ostensibly football review column, Gregg Easterbrook used that when referring to the Washing Redskins. I believe his term was Potomac Basin Indigenous People. Good stuff
3g4me #374370 October 20, 2023 10:05 am 0
KGB: When I submitted a copy of my original birth certificate to get a new license after moving, the undoubtedly POX bureaucrats in the state capital saw “District of Columbia” and asked for a copy of my green card. Not sarc.
Oswald Spengler #374387 October 20, 2023 11:04 am 0
Washington, D.C. will be eventually renamed Nat Turner City.
KGB #374412 October 20, 2023 11:46 am 0
3g4me, a few years ago a clerk in the Imperial Capital refused to issue a marriage license to a man who presented a New Mexico driver’s license; insisting he’d have to show his passport because NM is a foreign country. A governmental pencil pusher in DC is almost 100% guaranteed to be a stove pipe.
Moran ya Simba #374434 October 20, 2023 12:25 pm 0
KGB, re New Mexico being a foreign country, he wasn’t wrong he was just 20 years early
JerseyJeffersonian #374451 October 20, 2023 2:02 pm 0
From WRSA…
Tired Citizen #374452 October 20, 2023 2:05 pm 0
You’re not wrong, but this won’t happen. There are already a lot of communities attempting to do this now, but against the will of the people, migrants are being dropped into those town. Blacks are being subsidized so they can “afford” nicer homes in these areas. TPTB are forcing it on those communities, and if you resist, your life is destroyed. It is a seemingly unstoppable force. No matter how many verified victories reality demonstrates, the cognitive dissonance is far too great.Even when Whites are completely deracinated (almost there), they will still be blamed. Long after the last remnants of Whites are gone from AINO, the failures that ensue will ultimately be blamed on Whites. It truly is a remarkable thing.
Gideon #374349 October 20, 2023 8:48 am 0
There are innumerable examples of peoples surviving as ethnic or religious minorities within societies ruled by others. Christians in the Middle East, Mennonites and other nonbelievers in Russia and the West, and Afrikaners in post-Apartheid Southern Africa are just a few examples. But virtually any large state contains such unrepresented groups. We need to study and learn from them. The problem with the AmRen/VDare approach is we have to get beyond the idea that we are the silent majority, who just need to be woken up to the biological realities of race, etc. to bring about sensible solutions to our problems. Even if we were still the majority, our rulers would not allow our political expression. People have been dealing with a lack of empowerment for time immemorial. We must do the same.
c matt #374395 October 20, 2023 11:15 am 0
It is a tricky thing. My personal view is as follows:Overall solution is freedom of association de facto first, then de jure God willing.1. Do not have much hope of righting the ZOG ship at this point, although it could be a slow burn which gives time to prepare.2. Prepare: (a) move away from the diversity if you can (at least from the hottest zones), (b) stockpile what you can, (c) build IRL community with your neighbors – simple as just getting to know them as a start.3. Survive: Not exciting or glamorous, but the daily grind of surviving and as TomA often says, be as ready as you can when things go south.4. Also boring, but act locally – national politics is simply a distraction. Your local school board, mayor, city council and sheriff have more impact on day-to-day than Biden or Trump, in particular when the ZOG train hits the wall. This is where I part company with the no vote crowd: while voting for Pres or Senator is generally a waste of time, not so much for local office/issues (towns often have referendums – we got rid of red light cameras in our town through one). The smaller community you live in, the better. Statewide office – YMMV.5. Pray. Can’t hurt (and helps settle the soul).As is often said, this didn’t happen overnight, it won’t be fixed overnight. And the fix is generally going to be a long slow boring slog (maybe punctuated once in a while).
Hi-ya #374342 October 20, 2023 8:22 am 0
The typical line of dissedebts like Taylor is that race was so self evident to our ancestors that they need not discuss it. I think that is more or less true.So how did this switch happen in the 50s and 60s? In terms of history, the switch between whites understanding race so intuitively that it need not even be defended in books and magazines to being zealous anti racists happened in a historical blink of an eye, within 20 years.Guess the mind of the white man was so softened and confused he was ripe for a new virtue and a new sin.I think I’m going to skip the Taylor interview. I can only get enraged so many times a day. Intermarriages with other races is racial suicide.
Carl B. #374348 October 20, 2023 8:48 am 0
It began with the Yankee Abolitionists in the 1850’s.
Paintersforms #374350 October 20, 2023 8:49 am 0
Imo it started in 1871. Germany had to be kept down, even at the cost of destroying Western Civ and its people. Why that was so important, I can only speculate, but it seems like part of a larger dynamic that goes back to antiquity to me.
Wolf Barney #374366 October 20, 2023 9:52 am 0
The change in understanding race happened so quickly because everyone was immersed in watching TV, movies and sportsball.In 1947 Jackie Robinson broke the color barrier in baseball. Later on there were fun, cool black guys on TV like Sammy Davis Jr. and Bill Cosby (at the time).Then in the early 70’s the Norman Lear sitcoms with a lesson to learn were popular, along with numerous other shows that all contained racism-is-bad content, whether subtle or not. That continues today, except much of it is more blatantly anti-white.Virtually everyone in the West has spent thousands of hours in front of the TV absorbing their programming. It’s understandable that something as obvious as race realism is pushed aside by a lifetime of a widespread antiwhite agenda.
Ostei Kozelskii #374378 October 20, 2023 10:41 am 0
Very good. Far too many people overlook sports–and pop music–as salients for Hutuphilia and ultimately anti-white racism as well. Television viewing, which became commonplace in the 60s, was a force multiplier.
Stranger in a Strange Land #374405 October 20, 2023 11:34 am 0
Turns out that Outer Limits intro was actually a fact:…”There is nothing wrong with your television set. You are about to participate in a great adventure. You are about to experience the awe and mystery which reaches from the inner mind to… The Outer Limits”.
LineInTheSand #374391 October 20, 2023 11:12 am 0
I remember watching some sitcom as a little boy in the 70s, which was set in an apartment in New York. Some black man climbed into their apartment through the window. For a moment, all the white characters were scared. Then they discovered that he was a nice guy and there was some reason for him to climb through the window. Everyone laughed and relaxed. The script writers shamed the white characters for being concerned that a black man climbed through their apartment window. Here is revealing scene from Woody Allen’s “Annie Hall” on the chosen justifying black crime:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UukFueBo9bQ
LineInTheSand #374442 October 20, 2023 1:13 pm 0
Suddenly, the youtube video says, “This content is not available.” Does anyone else get that message?
JerseyJeffersonian #374453 October 20, 2023 2:09 pm 0
The tribe of Winston Smith is on the job, preemptively saving us all from BadThink.
Hi-ya #374542 October 22, 2023 5:38 pm 0
Yes. Finishing the podcast this afternoon made me think of tv. No other way it could spread so fast
Ostei Kozelskii #374377 October 20, 2023 10:38 am 0
Ideologically, there was more change in America from 1964 thru 1969 than from 1969 to the present. We can all offer some explanations, but I doubt any of them are sufficient to explain this truly remarkable transformation. It is surely one of the greatest mysteries of modern history.
Dr. Dre #374415 October 20, 2023 11:50 am 0
Yes, I have thought about this, too, having been in college during the time you mentioned. We are coming up on the SIXTIETH anniversary of JFK’s assassination. There was a societal full stop that occurred that day. Smaller one in June ’68 when RFK was murdered in LA. With these two Catholics gone, suddenly we were free to get on board with Abortion–a word that was never said aloud in civil society until the late 60s–and all the other sex-related activities that did NOT promote traditional family values. Obviously the Kennedy men had not been terribly secretive about living lives that did not follow customary morality, but they were excused to some extent by society a. admiring WWII heroics by JFK and his glamorous First Lady, then b. feeling sorry for them and their distraught families, which led to our emotional wreckage and acceptance of the bad stuff as punishment in the following decades. Church-going has plummeted in the US since then, too. I predict some Protestant denominations won’t be around in 20 years. Ted Kennedy, besides becoming the “Lion of the US Senate,” also turned into an avatar for strange new policies for things like abortion.
TJMaxx #374340 October 20, 2023 8:00 am 0
Good show. I happened to listen to that Jared Taylor podcast. It was a little surprising when one of the solutions to the black problem offered by the guest was more interracial marriage. The guest laid out all the facts, then came to a completely opposite conclusion than what was expected. As for myself, I no longer concern myself if somebody thinks me a racist. That particular slur has no teeth to it like it once did.
Edwin Okrent #374339 October 20, 2023 7:47 am 0
Guys, I hate to be the bearer of bad news, but most white people (especially white girls) disagree with you. Most white people want more People of Color in their society. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dO6ZlUaN9s0
c matt #374383 October 20, 2023 10:47 am 0
That is because most White people don’t interact with the average POC on a regular intimate basis. The POCs they do interact with are generally “curated” for them and the undesirables they simply avoid. But this will soon change – unfortunately probably too late.
joey jünger #374388 October 20, 2023 11:05 am 0
They may publicly disagree with us, but that’s only because to publicly agree with us would be social suicide. Dissembling to survive can have some effect on one’s real core beliefs—see Timur Kuran’s “Private Truth, Public Lies”—but it’s also sometimes just a matter of social survival. And for females there’s not much difference between social survival and literal survival. You have to be very resolute and strong—like someone like Jared Taylor—to swim publicly against the tide for such a long time and take the abuse with sangfroid.Women generally follow the principle lain down by Bin Laden, when he said everyone loved a strong horse. Most women will publicly identify as whatever is popular and supported by the current winners of the system. They’re more morally inert and less risk-willing, for a host of biological issues not relevant here. We shouldn’t try to win over the women, at least rhetorically. If we win the fight, the women automatically follow.
Compsci #374431 October 20, 2023 12:16 pm 0
One needs to take these videos for what they are, psyops, designed to demoralize. They are no different than those TV commercials we often decry, which purport to show a racial or colorblind society—which in reality show a society where Whites do not exist in any meaningful way.
J Krupp #374468 October 20, 2023 3:03 pm 0
Revealed preferences is a thing.You might want to look it up…
Vajynabush #374509 October 20, 2023 11:47 pm 0
Tiny, is that you?
joey jünger #374338 October 20, 2023 7:09 am 0
“Racism” appears to just be one’s functioning genetic immune system. It lets one know when they’re in the presence of friends or foes. Bemoaning it—or trying to shed one’s biases in favor of their ingroup and distrust of outgroups—is probably as dumb as an animal trying to shed its evolutionary adaptations. And no animal—no matter how primitive—is that dumb or suicidal. The good news is that young white males appear to be much less amenable to the mindf*ck than their forebears. The bad news is that they’re already part of a hated minority, and the Coalition of the Ascendant is confident enough to not even wear the mask of civil rights anymore. Someone at Unz crunched the numbers and it looks like something like six-percent of Corporate America’s hires post George Floyd were white. We need to stop waiting to become a literal minority—it’s going to happen much sooner than initially projected—and start recognizing we’re already in the minority where it matters most, among those who are going to have to live in this nightmarish future.
Gideon #374341 October 20, 2023 8:17 am 0
Antiracism is used to attack a society’s defenses in the same way that the AIDS virus acts to destroy a body’s immune system. It allows alien parasites to destroy their host without undo interference from the host. In the case of the virus, the host dies not from the virus itself but from any of a variety of infections the body would otherwise be able to cope with. In a society the aliens will not only seek to neutralize the normal response to attacks from other foreigners, but will even organize their invasions and work to shelter and protect them after they arrive. That’s why conservatives like Mr. Brodow will always be met with hostility from such people when they try to gather support for any beneficial policies. They miss the point of the diversity exercise.
c matt #374379 October 20, 2023 10:43 am 0
The good news is that young white males appear to be much less amenable to the mindf*ck than their forebears. The bad news is that they’re already part of a hated minority The other bad news is that too many White women are too amenable to the mindf*ck.


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