Outstanding as usual, Z. I admit Soros is not somebody I would ordinarily take pains to listen to or understand. He sounds much like the denizens of the shitlib hive I grew up in and eventually rejected. You put my objections to all that into coherent verbiage. The bigger question is – how do we use it? The people arrayed against us will say “diversity is our strength” and it’s end of story, full stop. If you try to have a rational conversation with them you get ostracized or dismissed. On the other hand…I see that antisemitism is showing signs of going mainstream because a lot of normies are watching the wheels come off…and they start asking who is doing this and why? Maybe it’s all timing? Maybe people are starting to ask that question and are ready to hear the answer?As always: liked, subscribed, upvoted, and for the record- the commentary here is often just as good as the article. I hope you and the Dissidents are having a great weekend.

Very interesting show. Excellent.

The observation about the (White) wealthy doing good works for (White) society in past times (even if it stroked their ego) as well as (White) society’s concrete recognition of those works and its (White) heroes and champions (military or other) struck a nerve. When thinking about where we are today, and frankly the past 60 odd years, who the hell would we honor with statues or buildings or parks or mountains or cities or streets? Oh, that’s right, a career nigro criminal who OD’d while in a White cop’s custody. As things stand currently, degradation, deracination and corruption rule the day. Monuments to past (White) heroes and achievement are torn down while degenerates, perverts and other associated POC dross are celebrated. The open, all encompassing, all forgiving society is a disaster.

Do a show on this Filmer character. No one knows who he is or what you are talking about.

Went looking for Zman’s most recent interview wit El Niño Speaks and accidentally stumbled on one he did with the guy last year, just in case anyone wants it:https://josbcf.substack.com/p/el-nino-speaks-33-what-does-the-future#details I’ll probably listen to it, since Z’s hours are one of the few podcasts I bother with. The kids like Fuentes with their five hours of talk bracketed by vapor wave and hip-hop music just does not do it for me.

As pessimistic as I can be I do see signs lefty can’t keep all these plates spinning. I also suspect a lot of normies/lefties are beginning to get nervous as well. I think that’s one reason we’ve seen mass migration throughout the States, people escaping diversity under the guise of taxes or “more freedom” or some shit. The future is likely to be soft separation and regionalism. And if we could only get whites to actually reproduce it could look pretty bright indeed.

For a long time, many members of the elite professional/managerial class lived as though it was the 1950s. They met their spouse young, bought a house in the suburbs (or an expensive part of a city), and raised the family together. Divorce was relatively rare for this cohort and they demanded good schools and high standards from the services they consumed. In a lot of ways they lived in a sort of closed society, walled off from the insanity that your supported policies created. Other people paid the price for them and you got to feel good about it. imposing it on them. This arguably reached its zenith in Obama’s second term – “the great awokening”, as it’s been termed. Since then, though, they drank their own kool-aid, and showed an increased willingness to let this stuff into their own lives and their own communities. How else could you describe parents taking their children to a drag show? A few years ago, parents in Park Slope, Brooklyn willingly destroyed one of the best public middle schools in NYC at the altar of diversity, bringing chaos and violence to their own children.I wonder what will happen next. The chaos is hitting their own lives and you can only keep your head in the sand so long. I wonder if some of these people are now secret Trump supporters. Maybe this is why we are seeing full-on totalitarianism from the government now – this is the natural end result of any multicultural society, as you cannot hold together a society full of people who hold different values through any means other than force.

“What do you have when you have a society where everyone is tolerant except for that one group over there that non one likes and they want to get them.” (paraphrase) You have anti-white America in 2023.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=C3q023WGTt8 I fuckin give up.

I’d like to know how we are supposed to challenge the idea of the “open society” when SJWs are propagandizing the people to react to such ideas with anger, violence, disgust, confusion etc.We have the most thorough, powerful, all encompassing system of brainwashing ever devised. Everywhere a person turns to is brainwashing propaganda. It starts at a very young age and never ends. It’s been going on a long time.The only real advantage we have is that the “open society” business requires that constant brainwashing and propaganda whereas we have the “null” position. But it’s been nonstop brainwashing and propaganda for at least 75 years.

I was going to do a rant on how framing goblin political goals as them being on a moral crusade is fallacious since they’re clearly operating on self-interest to secure a monopoly on ethnocentrism while denying it to the only other groups with IQs capable of threatening their power.The more I thought about it, it IS a moral crusade in their twisted little goblin minds. Right vs wrong is fundamentally defined as “good for the goblin” vs “bad for the goblin”. So when a goblin starts preaching about the open society, from his frame of reference he isn’t just cynically kibitzing for his people’s benefit. His people’s benefit is the greatest good, after all.This cultural misalignment is why men and goblins can never coexist. The only solution outside of mass butchering would be to make the goblins into men, or the men into goblins. Evidently we acceded to the latter as goblin morality dominates.

It is all just a veneer for what Specter and her husband and Soros and his boys and Ignatiev and his accolytes and all of the rest of the supremacists want.They want revenge dating all the way back to Titus and Vespasian. They say it pretty clearly and openly. They want revenge, total destruction and to then rule over the world with God’s light shining through them.Who cares what they want. What do we want? It is time to look ourselves in the mirror get our confidence back and ask, “What do I want for me, my family and my fellow European folk?”We want our traditional and diasporic homelands.We want full sovereignty over them.We want to resume pursuit of our destiny as a folk and as nations that was halted after we walked on the moon.Who is going to give that to me? Nobody! So what must I and my folk do to attain that?We know the answers. What are we willing to do to attain it?It is time to forge our will and impose it on the world in just pursuit of our homelands, our sovereignty and our destiny.We gave them their homeland. Let them make of it what they will and look on what they build with satisfaction knowing from here on it, they did it without our help.

Off topic, but God Bless Russia. Banned gender mutilation and child adoption by those with gender dysphoria. https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-66200194

Yes I would like more of Power Hour programs like this , in depth essay type . I have re-listened to the fascist podcast and the witch 2 hour podcast because I enjoyed them so much . Lots of meat in these podcasts that are filled with interesting connections across history . You have a talent to organize and prioritize subjects that serve whatever the theme is . Todays podcast on diversity was very cleverly done . I do enjoy your humorous reading of zirl science or other news , but a show on the news for me now is hard to takeI am learning deficient in politics , never could enjoy it but you ,Zman , have shown me the context and history of todays headlines and I am very grateful for all you have done and all the work that you put into the blog .

Part II of The “Gypsy” question.😉If Soros is more than just the latest money launderer and a continuation of The Ford Foundation, then it’s ending, because they just raise Hell until the curtain falls like all the other times. If he’s just like his ah ethnicity Rosencrantz and Guilderstein continued (they are) then let me hold up a mirror HAMLET, the tragedy of men who could not make up their minds. Worry not a Fortinbrass approaches inevitably and always.

The “open society” is a complete lie. Soros’ vision of the open society is minority rule and subjugation of the majority. It’s SJW inversion. It is evil. He should be rotting in a British prison and not wrecking our societies.

“We’re living in a society!” — George Costanza

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“Who are we?” The chicken and the egg issue.“Who we are” is “Who we’ve been.” Every biological entity evolves uniqueness based upon what “works” in its local environment. Hence, all distinguishing differences in traits and behaviors are derived from environmentally driven necessity that evolved over many generations. It’s not what you choose, but what you inherit that determines who you are. And there is nothing volitional about this reality. An 18th Century Englishman arriving in the Congo is not going to thrive in that environment no matter “how much he believes in his righteous superiority.”And this is why the majority of blacks remain dysfunctional trying to live on the North American Continent rather than Sub Saharan Africa. Biology trumps ideology. Yes, there can be exceptions on the individual level, but in the main, you have the equivalent of an infection that cannot heal. Ditto for all invasive species that transplant from a different place.For about a billion years, nature sorted out these anomalies using fitness selection, but then civilization happened and man-made intervention screwed the pooch. We are now on course for a hardcore tyranny that attempts to homogenize all Homo sapiens into insect-like drones that can readily adapt almost anywhere (sort of like cockroaches). Is that the future you desire?

Below, Nick Fuentes comes up.I disagree with the Zman’s ire, here’s why.Nikki the Racist Clown is doing vaudeville, because vaudeville works.He doesn’t remember Walter Cronkite and Chet Brinkley’s “firm but fair, Father Knows Best” routine. MLK put on a suit and a tie, and look where that got us.Nick tried the public /Our/ Thing route- an informal militia!- and he got the treatment meted out to Murray, Watson, the Oathkeepers, the Jan 6 crowd. They stole $500,000 from the kid and his only success was to get Sebastian Gorka canceled.What’s a young guy born in Clown World to do? Gravitas? Hit the books? Run for office? Short the pound sterling and the Thai baht?He’s not that obnoxious Handsome Truth fed or that ridiculous Alex S. pipsqueak- these bozos are getting people arrested all over Florida with their stunts. He’s not furtively pasting posters to phone polls. None of such reeks of class or appeals to status.What made John Stewart the most popular show? What worked for the Melting Pot playwright?Vaudeville. They gentled it in to a broad audience. Their ideas weren’t shaking their fist, the medicine went down easy.Nicki flatly stated, “well, black people are dumber than whites,” (paraphrased), and no eeking and ooking ensued. Everybody nodded in agreement, as if he’d said, “blacks run fast,” another honest statement. He was able to follow up with the idea that whites can be white, and it’s no violation of God’s law.He’s doing what he can, according to the rules of the society he was born to.Plus, he’s got to work the seminar circuit to get some of that money back, and to stay in operation. I’m hoping he will move to Trump or Billy Graham-style rallies, like an Alvvays or Tay Sway concert.We aren’t going to get a White ethnostate anytime soon, facetime is a heck of a lot better than paving driveways, patching barn roofs, or pickpocketing tourists from our shappy caravans like Gypsy Travellers.I’m sorry for your disappointment, Zman, but we can’t unmix this bag.We’re in unknown waters here.

I collect artifacts, publications and histories of America’s now nearly extinct Military School / Academy movement. Not the service academies, (which have been wholly captured and subdued by the consensus) but the tremendous system that built up beginning mid to late 19th century for the education and character development of men, before being nearly eradicated beginning in the late ’60s. Why is this germane to a discussion of this Open Society?I give you two quotes from the 1941 Culver Military Academy Woodcraft Camp publication (summer camp for boys 9-19):“All boys must be physically able to participate in the active outdoor life and also be free from any disabilities. Boys afflicted with asthma or enuresis are not accepted.“Excellent character and good citizenship are required of all boys. The names of three character witnesses are requested on the application. These should be teachers, boy leaders, or alumni and patrons of Culver who have an intimate knowledge of the applicant. Culver writes for the character recommendations.”They were serious about this.And:“While Culver provides the most modern educational facilities to contribute to the boy’s learning, enjoyment and well being, he is surrounded by the unconscious influences of beauty, orderliness and good taste that are conducive to clean thought and upright living.”Imagine this worldview and its directives still animating any institution in this nation. Culver is one of the few military academies to have survived the cultural onslaught of the late 60s / early 70s. The Woodcraft program still exists (since 1912), and at least outwardly has the same form — except that females can participate now (which surely has radically altered the experience for boys).And thought most of these fine institutions have failed, been coopted and turned into woke schools for the upper crust, or simply taken out (as was St Johns in Kansas recently … a survivor put under by allegations — or the fact of — of homosexual abuse) by the screeching horde, Culver still holds their military academy as male only. They dodged the bullet by starting the non-military Culver Girls Academy.Anyway …. these schools always established a proper moral outlook, and emphasized character building and immersion into a common culture, whether established by some religious entity, or as many were, by individuals or family dynasties. Reading their publications gives a clear glimpse into an America, and a culture, now obliterated.

Meh. Sorry, but I don’t buy this notion of the so-called “open society” one bit. America/AINO has always been a closed society. Prior to the rise of the New Left, negroes, pervs, and to a lesser extent, Hispanics and Orientals, were excluded from society’s rich heart. With the rise of the New Left, however, the poles were reversed. The formerly marginalized have been placed in the center, while the white majority is now en route to second-class citizenship and marginalization. Whites are tolerated only to the extent we keep the electricity and water running, and the planes from crashing. But only a blind fool could fail to see that our culture has been denigrated and demolished, our history transmogrified and trashed, and our civilizational structures undermined and destabilized. And this, moi drugi, is no accident.

On topic-I was laid off this week. Why?My company has been barreling headfirst with no brakes into rapidly increasing purity spirals and DEI worship. One of the main things that drew me to them was when I interviewed initially I was interviewed by 6 white men in total, two of which were wizened gray haired oldsters. This stuck out like a sore thumb, in a good way, since I’d been through dozens of interviews with other companies that had the typical United Colors of Benneton setup of diversity hires, wahmen, and people who clearly had make-work BS roles foisted on them.But sadly, though perhaps not unsurprisingly, we started drinking the kool-aid by the gallon last year and this year it was FAR worse. EVERY week I’m getting DEI this, diversity that, Pride BS, internal resources available to women, minorities, everyone but the white guys that hired me are being celebrated.They also have been promoting to upper management in a way that almost insures they will be driving the train off the cliff. In the past 18 months I’ve seen two stronk Latinas both in their early 30s rocketed up to Executive Director positions. They were f-ckingAccount Managersand moved 3 levels up the org chart in one fell swoop. Qualifications? Tits and brown skin. Literally. Passed right on by several white guys that had over a decade (or more) in their respective fields.So long story short, the DEI contagion has fully metastasized now and is consuming everything. I’m no fan of Vox Day but his theories on convergence and how it happens in the “slowly, then suddenly” motif are 100% on point.My boss’s boss, one of the “stronk Latinas” had me on a quick meeting with HR, also a stronk latina. So this women who was a junior account manager now an “Executive Director” gave me a speech about cost-cutting, blah blah. I just translated in my mind- ‘You are an unbending and unbreaking obviously alpha white male, you are a threat, you gotta go’. That is what I was hearing over the din of corporate BS they were spouting. They want compliant, soft, sheepish beta white males who will quietly accept their servitude to negros, latinas, wahmen, and fags. I ain’t that guy. Never will be. I didn’t broadcast it, but I do give off a certain “don’t f-ck w/ me” vibe passively so I can’t say this was totally surprising.It is unfortunate not just because I’m newly unemployed but because this company was one of the last holdouts. An IT company founded by a family dynasty of Republicans who never went public and so managed to keep the place looking like somewhere from the late 90s. But as is often the case, the father pass the reigns to the son who is far younger and has been ‘properly programmed’ by The Machine so he’s setting about destroying his father’s legacy. Sad, many such cases…

Years ago someone at Occidental Observer coined the neologism “Judaeforming,” to describe this process. Any organism will seek homeostasis, and where it’s not found, it will seek to make those conditions prevail. Even my terrier does this weird thing where she walks around in a circle on her blanket several times before she sits down.Jews are generally 180 degrees away from whites in America on most important issues. The gap is biggest on gun ownership and immigration (Audacious Epigone used to have great graphs on this stuff.) Whether or not you have a right to defend yourself or to say who can enter or not enter your society is a very big thing. And if what makes you comfortable is perceived as an existential threat by someone else, then something has to give. It doesn’t get more zero-sum than that. Conflict is unavoidable even where not intentional. Even if the aliens in “War of the Worlds,” were not hostile, human microbes still would have done them in. Ditto for the Spanish arriving on the American continent in the 15th century.The rule for minorities seems to be: liberal in the diaspora, conservative at home when in the majority. The trick for the people currently running America is convincing the majority to not understand itself as such. This obviously benefits Jews but it requires a not-insignificant number of white traitors. I’ve noticed these people (just like the English communists/Cambridge spies) come from very old, very white and Waspish families. Like everyone else, I’d prefer to think about the JQ because it’s easier, but we have to solve the problem of the horse-faced Boston brahman who lives in New England and has a visceral hatred for normal white people. Ditto for the English MP who has barons and duchesses and even kings in his pedigree who enjoys nothing more than to see your average Scouser terrorized by Muslim immigrants. Eurocentric tendencies toward ingroup altruism might explain normal white people getting suckered by this stuff, and Karl Popper might explain the Jews, but that still leaves a huge problem.

This is where Karl Popper’s famous phrase, “the paradox of tolerance”, comes into the conversation. In order to maintain the tolerant society, you must be intolerant of intolerance…Of course, this is an unresolvable paradox,…I have not listened to the show yet. I apologize for commenting before listening, but I just wanted to touch on this general subject for a moment. As I think I mentioned in a comment some weeks ago, the “paradox of tolerance,” like the barber paradox and other Russell-type paradoxes, are not really all that unresolvable, even at the level of formal logic. Formally, one need only recognize that—in the barber paradox, for example—the term “man” takes on a different arity in different parts of the statement and is therefore used equivocally. The statement of the paradox involves a contextual shift, and the term has slightly different meanings in the different contexts. Thus, it is not entirely the same term, but it uses the same signifier. Therefore there is no paradox.Ordinary language has no trouble understanding this, but formal logic was led into a catastrophe which culminated in the Gödel Incompleteness Theorem. There is a deep and cogent lesson there for anyone wants to contemplate it. How did it come to be that minds of the first order were ever obsessed by trifling problems like this?Part of the reason—the partnotdiscussed in intellectual histories of mathematics—is that people seem to enjoy thefrissonof playing around with ambiguity rather than settling down into the sane, sober, solid resolution of the paradox. This transforms the problem from an intellectual dilemma into an ethical lapse. Ethics is nothing other than the cultivation of moderate and proportionate responses to matters of pleasure and pain. It is the point where the intellectual world oftrue and falseinforms the fleshly world ofgood and bad.To play with ambiguity is a highly refined form of vanity that takes an immoderate pleasure in remaining aloof from the determining realities of lower-arity pains and pleasures. It is the most spiritual, and consequently the most evil, form of cowardice.“Ambiguity,” therefore, is not merely one case, it isthecase—indeed themeta-case, of modern decadence. As we see in the barber paradox, the difficulty arises when one introduces a confusion between asubstance(a man, the barber), and theproperties of a substance(shaving men), and uses the same term for both. In the paradox of tolerance, the substance is society and the property of the substance is open debate, but the form of the argumentation is the same. All Russell-type paradoxes involve a confusion between substances and properties, which are categories of different arity. This particular type of problem is brought to a high pitch precisely in the modern, Western world due to its tendency to etherealize everything into the same world of abstractions and to forget that substances andqualiaare actually real.The enemies of substantial society conceal themselves within the paradox of tolerance. What does this tell you about them? It tells you that they have broached the ethical line into vanity and moral cowardice. The substance of society is of lower arity than its properties. When the properties of a substance are directed against the substance, they are destroying the very being in which they inhere. Ontologically, this is a case of being rebelling against the ground of being. That happens to be the technical definition of Evil.The proponents of ambiguity areevil. We are, no doubt, some number of years short of the point when this fact becomes explicit in a very social and political way, but there is. The philosophical certainty of it can no longer be thrown into doubt. Like an alarm slowly penetrating into the dream of the sleeper, it is present with a dim awareness that must grow until the sleeper awakens.

One wonders how Mr. Schwartz squares the circle of the Palestinians. I guess the Open Society only applies to non Juice societies.

Regarding your point that for whites in Vermont, it’s easy to be anti-racist:A lot of the push for inclusion and diversity has to do with Telescopic Philanthropy, in which a person can accrue a massive amount of social capital in this digital age by worrying about abstractions. They don’t have to bother volunteering in Church, helping a neighbor move, or visiting some old family. The status seekers used to have to work in the community, maybe being annoying busybodies but still actually got things done. Now there’s national attention at their fingertips with the press of a button. This also destroys local bonds, as only a small portion cares you helped Susan down the road with her baby one day.All the social capital is in knowing the performative words to say, like a magical incantation. The ones who are really chronically online will cut their son’s genitals off while the less fanatical leftists nod their agreement in public while ensuring they make as little contact as possible with the crazy lady.

Accepting their frame.That’s my beef with the One ***ish Father, everything is twisted to accept their frame that They are the first. Good golly, that blurb on Yuri Slezkine’s book is good. On the money.This is a division of labor problem arising from the dawn of agriculture. Michael Hudson says the same of banking and the temples’ role in grain storage and distribution in the “water kingdoms”, where irrigation ruled.

Maybe Soros types can come up with Open Nest academics, and let the birds tell us how that worked out. I gots one!Open Door Theory!

Popper’s paradox of tolerance demonstrates an important point: all societies suppress some ideas and people. Even societies that strive for maximum tolerance will have ideas that you are not allowed to question.When Popper said he wanted an open society, he meant a society in which no immigrants are rejected and no heretical ideas are suppressed. If you know his ethnicity, it is obvious why he advocated for this.But Popper realized that if he allowed the people who objected to his proposal to exist in his society, then those people would destabilize and possibly destroy his society.So Popper formulated his paradox of tolerance and demonstrated that any society that wants to survive must always suppress some people and ideas.Like Popper, I want a society where almost ideas are open for debate except for a few. But in my case, the idea that you are not allowed to question is that the highest purpose of our government is to promote the flourishing of white people.

Before I start reading, a big thanks to the Zman for yesterday’s GQ It was raucous and funRock ’em Sock ’emEven had Dasein in there throwing blows

Is there a link to that interview you did, Z?

Great show, thanks. I’d really been looking forward to the Open Society podcast.Years ago, I worked closely with a jewish girl with whom I had very frank and honest discussions about race and crime statistics. It was refreshing to hear someone speak of these things so openly. She often compared pit bull attacks with future microbiologists.One day, she happened to make a comment about the fact that she and her family were worried about some relatives who lived in the inner city because “they are the only white people for miles”. Someone else happened to hear and quietly called her out on it. She quickly reminded them that she is jewish, jews are only 2% of the population, far smaller than the percentage of blacks, and have been “persecuted for centuries”.It was eye opening. There was a unique power and an eternal impunity.

Totalitarian societies such as ours always present their quest for absolute control as a moral crusade. These types believe as much in an open society as they do in free speech and personal liberty, which is to say they don’t believe in it at all. The stated ideals simply are tools to the unspoken end of a monstrous regime led by an evil few.If anyone could time travel to the past, the first person strangled would be Rosseau, followed by Soros. The former laid the groundwork for the latter to take out humanity. He is well on his way in a manner that eluded the past tyrants.This will end in flames, debris and mass death because it cannot end otherwise.

Strikes me listening to the podcast, that a grand Open Society, at it’s most commanding heights, is an almost inviolate and indestructible Closed Society. But for whom?

Very pithy: “Diversity is the bane of human organization because it multiplies the number of people who must be coerced in order to maintain the illusion of consensus. America is looking like a prison yard run by clerics because that is the only way to govern an open society.”

Count my vote for a show on Karl Popper and George Soros. Great show on understanding the open society concept.

I’ve always thought the “open society” lot were an intolerant bunch themselves, that their ideology was a thinly veiled way to knock down those deplorables they couldn’t stand from the start. “We are going to have an open society here, real tolerant, and you people who don’t like it, we’ll, you’re going to get a nice cram down.”

Speaking of tolerance, Nick Fuentes told a room full of black women that black people have lower IQ, and its genetic, with 100k watching live. They were more concerned that he said “nigg@.”