I think a lot of us tend to see the negative in everything so people have been worried about Blue state migrants Californicating their new homes. There’s some of that but my impression is that it’s largely people who were simply tolerating the Leftism of their states realizing, after the Coof, that the lunatics had won and it was time to go. The Great Migration is a blessing if it leads more people to realize it’s time to end the failed “American Experiment”.

That Oregon secession thing for 3/4 to split off and join Idaho is a good idea, but really it would be better to just detonate a nuclear weapon over Portland and then take 100% of the state. And I say this knowing full well that doing so would mean replacing all my windows and living in the basement for two weeks.

I don’t begrudge anyone trying to make a buck. My problem with it is that it creates a trail that can lead back you irl. There’s a reason that I’m anonymous here.

That’s a good question for several reasons, not the least of being it is hard to get accurate information. All wars are full of propaganda but this one is off the charts and neutral, accurate information is scarce. The best I can tell is there is something of a stalemate with the Russians slowly grinding down the Ukrainians, with Westerners more and more filtering into the mix. It’s like the Spanish Civil War in that narrow sense but mentally retarded, with Ivan the adult in the room.It seriously looks like it will be end with the same results of the peace agreement of nine years ago, with the West much poorer and Russia’s military degraded.

Karl For a good representation of the goings on there, a you tube channel called “The Duran” has what appears to be accurate info on a daily basis. To give you a visual, think of when Tommy (Russia) put that guys head in a vise (Ukraine), until his eye popped out. Sums it up.

There’s a Youtube channel called “Military Summary” that gives detailed daily updates on the situation by comparing Russian and western military sources. The fellow’s name is Dima and he is based in Belarus. It can get tedious at times, but if watched regularly, you get a sense of how things are developing.

“It’s not a question of what the west’s dominant culture will be, that has already been established. It is a question of how long this newly dominant culture will last. I don’t think the answers are as easy as we might like them to be.”The answer to this question is – INDEFINITELY. The major difference to here and the Soviet Union, for example, is the Soviet Union was still a mostly homogenous nation (nearly all white) and the people shared a common set of values and culture. That is not the case here.I started saying to friends lately that there is no such thing as an “American”. They all think I am a crackpot. They look at me strange just like they did when I first told them that you would have your bank account taken away if you had the wrong think or voted the “wrong” way 5 years ago. People like us are country-less men. There is no such thing as the “United States of America”. It’s a massive, resource rich piece of land with free trade across state lines filled with warring tribes who hate each other. Urban areas are unlivable slums contaminated by blax and rural areas are being infiltrated and destroyed by a government that hates the normal citizens of the land.I think if you asked a young person to define what it means to be an American, they’d probably raise a rainbow flag or BLM flag and say “Fuck White People!”.

Thesis: “The West’s civilizational culture is sexual perversion.”Antithesis: But that doesn’t include the fanatical anti-whiteness, which seems to have a longer and deeper history than the promotion of sexual perversion and the intensity is at least as great.Synthesis: The West’s civilization culture is anti-traditional white male.

“If you disagree with me that this is the west’s dominant culture, I invite you to go out and speak loudly against it and watch what happens. It’s not a question of what the west’s dominant culture will be, that has already been established. It is a question of how long this newly dominant culture will last. I don’t think the answers are as easy as we might like them to be.”True, and I would despair if I agreed with Tired Citizen that the answer is “indefinitely.” I don’t agree, though, because everything already is fragmenting and fracturing. Additionally, in theory this hideous culture could last a long time, but as we see with the psychotic taunting of Russia to let the nukes fly, the suicidal impulse runs deep so under any circumstances its time is limited. The USSR had a 70-year lifespan because it was not as destructive as this current iteration and technology was not available to circumvent the state.It could take longer, but I seriously doubt this thing staggers on past this decade. That might not even be the best result, either, since nuclear annihilation is one possible endpoint. It’s rather ironic that those who rant about the Earth dying in 20 years from climate change totally ignore it may be vaporized next week, but they run this show.

Is it true that Indians are “never antisemtic?” Are you pleased that the heritage population of whites is being replaced?

Ditto. Anyone know the song and artist at the end?

Agreed. The thought that if the Chinese got a few coins in their pocket they would magically turn into a liberal democracy was preposterous. I continue to make the point that China is the way it is because it is filled with Chinese people. This delusional belief that just because there are KFC and Coca-Cola in China they will eventually live like shorter Americans is a farce.

As Zman pointed out, the same set of geniuses, at the same time, thought that liberal democracy would organically flower in Iraq the moment they knocked down Saddam’s statue. They really did. One wonders if they are still clinging to this or have jaded a bit about the inevitability of “democracy.” It doesn’t seem clear.

We have no fate but what we make. Why assume the worst outcome is carved in stone? Do you really want to go out with a whimper rather than a roar? Start focusing on how to win and the future won’t seem so bleak.

Remember, according to official statistics, 25 million people were born in China in 1987. In 2022, there were only 9 million births. My guess is that diaspora East Asians simply disappear over time. The birth rate collapse in China, Japan, S. Korea means few emigrants. Some diaspora returns to make money among a shrinking Asian labour force. The rest mixes into the general US population. Something like 30% of East Asian women marry a man of another ethnicity. Without new immigrants from Asia they would disappear in a couple generations.

Hispanics have less of the economic wherewithal, and perhaps less of the inclination too, to flee from blacks every time they get near, as whites have done. And in those few but growing cases where they are without white power structures to restrain them, I’m thinking specifically of the Miami/Dade police and the Los Angeles County sheriff’s office, they are demonstrably less tolerant of black savagery than present day whites are. Which isn’t really saying much.

It seems to me the youth of today are generally good with the present situation because its all they’ve ever known. Every time we go on a family vacation, at the airport I go on a rant about how air travel used to be a fun ,pleasant and exciting thing. They really don’t care about the raving of and old mans lost world even though they are all “conservative” people in their teens and twenties. A new American culture has been made, and I think the white male heterosexual part of it will go willingly like lambs to the slaughter because its normal for them.

Those are good points. However, Indians are very well suited for the late stage era we lived through with massive bubbles in the software and financial industries. That played to their strong suit which is a high preference for credentialism, technically oriented credentials and skills and rising in industries that rose due to expropriation, national asset selloff, artificial interest rate based capital flows and debt financing.If that is coming to an end then the hard part begins. The population that has an edge in a tougher environment is one that has a segment that has grit and work ethic doing manual labor, martial prowess, and technological capability. Our people have all of that. One of the things that harmed our dirts is that being hotel chain operators was not so interesting to them. They wanted to do real work that made sense and had economic value. Many of our people are broken, but can be reforged. We are going to need all of them.I don’t think a center is going to hold, and thus a purely cosmopolitan cloud class that has no grit underneath it may lack an ingredient for dominance. The nature of the financial system is going to be a part of the selection process.I don’t know why, but I can’t shake that image of JD Vance in his Ferragamos poking a stream with a stick. Our people have a long way to go to live up to our past. For now, the bar on political leadership is very low.

Indians have only taken over the UK if you think that politicians run the UK. May as well say Turks run the UK because of “Boris Johnson”. Politicians do not run the UK-just like the US.

After posting this, just saw that Jack Dobson posted on Who Are We before I did.

https://vdare.com/articles/the-hunt-for-huntington-contd-who-are-we-and-who-is-us Great review on “Who Are We” from Sam Francis.

When the populations whose heredity was shaped by being West or North of the Hajnal Line become a minority, the minorities taking over…likely heavily Hispanic..will put a stop to chimp-outs and special privileges by or for the rest of the population..They have no quaint beliefs in the goodness of strangers, as Mexico demonstrates…

TomA: “The Cloud People want to remedy this problem by turning everyone into homogenized insect-like humanoids. ” Along those lines, it has been revealed that artificial beef is to be created by laboratory nurturing of “immortal” human cancer cells, which were scraped off the cervical cancer of a 1950s kneegress, named Henrietta Lacks. https://freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/4133542/posts https://www.theblaze.com/news/lab-grown-synthetic-meat-is-often-made-of-cancer-cells I.e. not only do “they” want you to eat bugs, but “they” will also see to it that you will eat your immortal kneegr0id venereal warts and be thankful for them.

“ Hispanics are a problem and should not be here, obviously, but the East and South Asians over the long haul will prove the death blow. The United States Huntingdon loved did die with the Hispanic invasion, but the American people he held dear are under existential threat mostly from Indians, Pakis, and the Chinese. ”The Hispanic *threat* is waay overplayed. Not asking for more, or any, but we’ve lived side by side for going on 200 years in the USA. They are not such an existential threat as are the other non-White minorities coming in or already here—like Blacks.We have much culturally in common with Hispanics. Here in my burg, we have a majority Hispanic police and Border Patrol. Unlike the recent incident in Memphis, they are not violent, low IQ, AA thugs. Rather the opposite when given a badge and authority. This is cultural in basis.

Jews vs Indians…interesting thought. Peter Frost has a relatively recent study on the oft touted Ashkenazi Jews and their vaunted IQ: https://peterfrost.substack.com/p/ashkenazi-jews-and-recent-cognitive Worth a read. Teaser—their once vaunted IQ may be no more. Similarly, one wonders if the same will not eventually happen to American Indians—who for the most part come from the upper castes of their homeland.

I think this is a solid and sober analysis of the ethnic factions and who the combatants will be.Whites will find their appetite for conflict and lose their propensity to grovel in moral cowardice and conflict avoidance. There are too many of us who, once the reality of being a permanent second and underclass becomes reality, will not sit idly by. I suspect that whites and east asians will ally with each other. I have been told explicitly by several Asians in the tech world that they much prefer working with white men. One thing I have noticed about South Asians as a general rule, is that on the surface is a friendly veneer, but underneath is an extremely chauvinistic, misogynistic animal that can be ruthless. In positions of authority they are weak but dangerous because they have no qualms about going on the war path against any dissenting voice. I’ve seen this in my professional life. It reaches levels of not being rational. They have a disdain for any dissenting voice – I have noticed a propensity to misinterpret open honest dialogue aimed at furthering the mission to success as opposition and disloyalty. Perhaps my sample size is too small, but I have observed it – here and in their homeland.One missing piece is that the prime contenders are going to have to deal with the black supremacists. That faction is extremely well organized and is erecting themselves as the social credit system gatekeepers. Their weakness is that they only offer themselves as an anti-white sledge hammer using grievance and cultural decimation. Once their utility in that regard and in their violent crime being a pretext for gun control, is used up, they serve no purpose. Still, they will be in many positions of authority and have a population that they have been very good at turning into a violent mob to get their way. That will have to be dealt with.It is hard to say if the primary contenders, Whites, (if they find their spines, stomachs and balls), East Asians, South Asians, Jews will need to deal with the Black Supremacists first or some coalition of the former will use them as a springboard, and deal with them as rivals later. I think whoever takes the latter strategy will need to be prepared to deal with a physically capable and violent group that has large numbers and that may control significant swaths of the military if things keep proceeding as they are now.In any case, things are setting up in a way that very few have the first clue about. While the intensity of the racial issue has been ratcheted up to insane levels, I think it is nothing compared to what it will be. If whites start to stand up for themselves, things will get extremely intense very quickly. The Obama/Biden judicial appointments will guarantee that as the courts may not provide whites with much recourse in combatting open anti-white discrimination in professional life and violent crime near home.What is important is that our group be prepared along every dimension as elite performance across every single one will be required to come out on top. The ingredients are out there along every dimension, but it needs to be coordinated.

I disagree that the Hindu elites don’t have a goal. I think their ultimate goal is simply to make white people respect/notice them. They want to lord over white people (justified as payback for colonialism, although it’s more so an expression of an extreme inferiority complex). They want to grind your head in the dirt and have you beg them for mercy. They want white women to give them attention.Overall – good observations. Same thing in Toronto. Growing up, the joke was always that China was going to take over, since there were so many Chinese people. What ended up happening over time was Indians flooding in. I see fewer and fewer Chinese nowadays outside of Chinese enclaves, and the ones I do see are often 50 or older.The huge flood of Indians is fairly recent, and seemed to increase a lot after 2016. 2016 was when the elites said “F- it” and just flooded & destroyed all our countries.The ones coming to Canada are less skilled, more likely to be Punjabi (mostly blue collar workers) or Tamils (were into gangs at one point but that’s kind of subsided). A lot of them come in as “international students”, pay high fees for basically a fake degree, then get on a path to citizenship. Once they “graduate” they work as dump truck drivers, buy Dodge Challengers and Jeeps on credit, and shoot off fireworks. They are similar to Mexicans but with a larger petit bourgeoisie fraction of independent business owners.They don’t have the same bitterness, femininity, and inferiority complex as the Hindu strivers going to the US have. But they are still going to start taking over in many places, simply due to numbers.I also disagree that there is even a “white” faction among the elites. The “white” faction of the elites is probably the military, which has been thoroughly purged. Unless they are playing some 5-D chess, the military elites are firmly in line with Globohomo.

indians are immune to the hebe’s main weapons – guilt tripping whites, and cultural degeneracy. and they match the jews on ethnic cohesiveness. my money’s on pajeet.

~Grabs a ringside seat, a sixer of Tsingtao, a hunk of cheddar and a summer sausage~

There are no Indians in my business but there are enough around town to give a consistent impression. People compare them to Jews but, in everyday life, the Jews they’re like are the Brooklyn Hasidim, reeking chiselers who make a point of physically getting in your way to mock your civility. The Jews at least read books. Indians have no human qualities.

The Indians have imported their tribal conflicts here. There are enough of them in Seattle, both in the population and the city government, to generate policy. https://www.reuters.com/world/us/seattle-becomes-first-us-city-outlaw-caste-discrimination-after-council-vote-2023-02-22/ Seattle, like Vancouver BC, will likely be dominated by Indians and Asians because their numbers are growing so rapidly.

It is incorrect to talk of Hindus as *one* people. David Reich in his book, “Who We Are and How We Got Here” has a chapter or two analyzing the Indian peoples. He maintains that genetically India is a country of many peoples—at least 5 major divisions—which correspond closely to their caste system and their caste system to skin color (who’d have thunk, huh?).This explains why Lynn could describe/measure the national IQ as around 83, while we have so many examples of successful Indian migrants in the West. Indian migration may yet be a threat, but there are not a billion+ just waiting to arrive and replace the indigenous population. Couple that with the increasing industrialization and technological growth of present day India (having shrugged off socialism) creating opportunities for their best and brightest.

Canada plans to increase its population from 38Mln today to 100Mln by 2100. I suspect it is going to be all from India and China.Petraeus openly talked about what is today Canada the US and Mexico/Central America being a single nation – well trade zone.I think their plan is to cram as many people into North America as possible and emulate China. Problem. China is largely a single ethnos or at least a dominant ethnos. At the same time that the GAE is doing this, it is systematically attacking its dominant ethnos and its own culture.I don’t know if they have a plan for this, or this is what happens when you turn Universities from places of deep and careful learning for the purposes of having the best ruling elite possible into job training factories at best and anti-civilizational mold breeders at best.Putin and Xi are serious men who are likely surrounded by serious men. Meantime we have Biden, HRC, Christine Lagarde and company grooming the likes of Greta Thunberg to be our future leaders.More Clown Horn as our host once said!! (Isn’t that song’s topic the grim reaper? How appropriate)

I was pleasantly surprised by the choice of music. I guess that Z Man was a metal head back in the day, as was I, and there was a wall between metal fans and the post-punk of Echo and the Bunnymen. I was only one I knew at the time who appreciated both worlds.The album that has the song Z played is the one where their singer let his inner Jim Morrison out, which was odd because the descendants of punk tended to ignore any bands earlier than the Ramones. And Echo, like the Doors but even moreso, incorporated Middle Eastern melodies into their songs.

See Zman’s column on Hindu Lebensraum. North America is not emptying out. South Americans and Africans are not heading south and Asians are not going back to Asia.

You’re wildly wrong. The Indians, Asians, Hispanics, Africans are no more going back than your ancestors went back. These people are here to stay. There’s no going back. We carve out a spot for ourselves in some form or another or we get run over. That’s nature.

Quite a state of affairs when optimism gets rebuked. I realize the world’s been ending since the late 80s for some, but that’s not the case for all. Like I say to my elders, I have to live in this shit show, so excuse me if I reject the logic that got us here and try to make something of it. Best wishes to all! PS Take the white man’s burden off of him, and watch what he does.

man the world has changed since they legalized weed.

re: your final point about spiritual forces, there’s a thought provoking post up by Naomi Wolf on her substack, about the return of the ancient gods

Going out on limb, my guess is Jewish power is declining, and what you’re seeing is the stirrings of what it had suppressed. It could be shunted into more Judeo-Christian nonsense, but let’s hope not, and if I’m going farther out on that limb, I think not. Btw, props to Catholics for being a bulwark in the meantime.

Yup they’re baaaack! And it ain’t no movie either.