Good piece. The great over-ride to Liberal Democracy being the consensus of ” 50 percent plus one” is the “Our percent plus one Judge” rule. This can and should be addressed by Congress, but will never be,

A perfect expose in how there is no institution one can bank on to adhere to their founding principles – even the word of God. The only overall apparent principle is getting one’s damn snout in the (((globo-homo))) shekel/opinion trough. Nothing is sacrosanct anymore other than kowtowing to the latest liberal democratic demonic fad – no matter how depraved or far afield from one’s true belief. We can only hope that White western men of true principle will rise and finally put (((globo-homo))) to the sword.

Some of my experience with religion: At the start, mom Southern protestant. Dad catholic. Mom barely religious. Dad catholic in name only. Both believers though.In their late 20’s marriage on rocks. Mom starts turning slowly to religion. For some reason she thinks I may not live long so she has me born again and baptized when I’m six. She baptized me herself in my bedroom with a bottle of water. People around her were telling her it doesn’t count if you’re not a preacher and if the boy is too young to understand baptism. She pretty much said, “whatever. there’s danger for him and everyone knows it. if it might keep him out of hell i’m doing it.” I wasn’t too young. I really felt grace or something. Then they all hugged me. Which never happened otherwise. So I was pretty happy with the situation.Their marriage gets more stormy every year after. Both fundamentally decent people, but born with hidden rage and harsh early lives. She gets mad religious. It’s obvious God is her new husband. Us boys come home from school one day to find all our bedside radios gone. She tells us Satan comes through the radio via rock music. I love music. Unfortunately for me, especially two bands named Judas Priest and Black Sabbath. She constantly finds and destroys my hidden albums. Her and I at war most of my teens. Home life starts to really suck. Dad is as angry and rageful as ever. Mom used to be a bit of a neutral buffer. But then she got just almost as bad as him that way. But creepier. Won’t go into it.Church. She used to take us to boring churches. Then she stepped it up to churches with a psychedelic band on stage. There’d be a segment toward the end where people would act weird. No different than old Woodstock footage of people spacing out on acid with their hands in the air. Individuals would start shouting toward the heavens. Usually men. About a minute after one guy would finish. Another guy would do it.Once around this time (1980ish) she took us to a downtown church with a mix of blacks and whites. Instead of psychedelic music it was intense and repetitive R&B. Blacks were dancing and yelling. I’d seen that on TV. Then I saw normal looking white aunty types doing it. Running up to the stage. Gyrating and falling down. But not trying to get up. Just continuing to gyrate as if they hadn’t fallen. Shit looked Satanic to me. Thank god us brothers had each other. We’d go from shock to grinning at each other, back to shock. If I’d been alone with her it would’ve been traumatic.Mom didn’t brief us on any of this. She’d just take us to these new places. This is when it occurred to me that it’s quite possible that half the adults in the world aren’t what they seem and are just hiding the crazy. Kinda good lesson.After a while we told our dad she was taking us to strange “churches” that freaked us out. And that she was freaking us out too. It’s not cool seeing your mom go into trance-like states. Around 1986 we stopped “letting” her whip us frantically with a horse crop. We’d take a whipping from a normal mean mom. But not from an unstable weirdo who goes into trances and yells in tongues and cries through her prayers every morning.In fairness. She could still be fun and kinda normal though these years. As could dad. Troubled people aren’t troubled all the time. Maybe in fiction or magazine stories.Just after high school I got sick of the intense guilt Christianity gave me. Just got sick of all the darkness and trouble it caused me and the family peace. Plus like many 18 year old boys I got all rational. Logic was everything. So I quit religion and became atheist. Unlike three-fourths of the Christians around me, I couldn’t be a half-baked Christian. Telling themselves and urging upon me that the bible was “ACTUALLY” soft and friendly. Too bad for them I’d ACTUALLY read the damn thing. I was too real for that. I knew the word of God was demanding as hell. I couldn’t live as a lukewarm Christian just to get a free ticket to paradise at the end.Cut to the present. 30 years after renouncing God I’m starting to doubt my arrogance on the matter. Can’t go into it much but in the last 8 months to a year I’ve started coming back around. Couple vague reasons.1. The world is so bizarre and disturbing that I’m thinking that nothing may be real. So surreal, that someone “must” be behind all of this.2. I’m remembering that when I was young I truly did feel the presence of the Lord with me. Even through the last 3 decades as an adult atheist I never looked back and denied or scoffed at the “realness” of that early sense of the spirit being with me. But did write it up as psychological. Now I’m thinking any sensation that “true”, just might have been Truth.3. Mom died 2 years ago. She’d always been frustrated with my atheism. But stopped overtly trying to “save” me. On the 2nd night after her death I was resting on my bed. I felt someone poke my shoulder and was VERY startled by it. Then nearly at the same time I “heard” her voice. Joyful and a bit teasing. I couldn’t make out the words. But the essence was, “Hah. Now you know.” Prior to that I’d never had any superstitious thing happen to me. I’m still skeptical when people convey this sort of experience. But now instead of scoffing at them I just keep silent and listen.4. About 4 months ago I stayed out too long. Came home and felt I was kinda dying in my sleep. Was kind of relieved and ok with it. Then emerged a white light. Absurdly pure and bright. Almost blue. (I’m color blind). I’ve never understood what people mean that it’s “pure”. But they’re right. Just take my word for it until you get there. Pure isn’t just the color. There’s a truth in it. It came from far off in the darkness. The darkness wasn’t just black. It had depth. You could see the great distance of it. The tiny white light emerged from the far end of it and slowly got bigger. But not yet bigger than the head of a pin. I don’t know what happened. I think I got scared and became more conscious, but still sleeping. I vaguely remember wishing, “no. not yet”.I realize there’s surely some physiological “explanation” out there. Whatever dude. Maybe that’s the case for what my mind’s eye “saw”. But I also deeply sensed its essence. That’s not as easy to explain away.5. Samuel Johnson. “Dr. Johnson”. My hero since around 1994. Was a true believer. And active and ardent believer. Besides being witty, wise and profoundly un-cool cool. He also happened to be the most knowledgeable man on Earth. Back when such a thing was possible or even measurable. Yes. This is an appeal to authority. But what an authority.6. Full disclosure. I’m scared of hell. And almost just as afraid of utter nothingness. Maybe it comes from mom nightly “devotions” with us, and how she never tired of mentioning “weeping and gnashing of teeth.” When you keep hearing that at age six, it stays with you. Sure you blow it off for most of your life. Like all cool people do. Now I’m thinking she was trying to tell me something.I’m not sure what heaven is like. I’m thinking perhaps at least a better dimension. I want in. I’ve suffered some not nice things for far too long. This can’t just end in a dark casket. That’s beyond wrong. That’s obscene.7. Aside from reasons. I’m just starting to feel it. Not just the comforting feeling of the spirit. But that the spirit is True.

Totally off topic – but it’s Saturday morning and we all usually leave various odds and ends at the most recent thread over the weekend. Per Daily Mail, Jerome Eisenberg has sued LA’s Brentwood school for it’s woke/CRT curriculum – claiming that it’s anti-semitic and teaches Juice are oppressors. What the school teaches, of course, is that White people are oppressors, and they’re not singling out the Juice as special exceptions. In Clown World, I take my ‘amusement’ where I can – and seeing the manipulators eat their own gives me a lovely measure of schadenfreude to start the weekend.

What comes next . . .As the economy declines and rising inflation makes it difficult to feed the family, more and more out-of-work white guys are going to be lured into Jackboot service as a meaning of putting food on the table. As with the Nazi SS, Soviet NKVD, or Chicom PLA, all tyrants need a thug cadre to protect themselves and enforce their will upon the plebs. Most of the guys joining these ranks will be ordinary Joes just doing a job for a paycheck. And like all paramilitary policing organizations, when they look in the mirror, they will see a white hat with a halo over it. You can’t do this job otherwise.Little by little, they will transition from generally moral men into automatons that follow orders reflexively. It starts out will loading peasants into boxcars and herding them off to detention camps (Hello Heart Mountain WY). Next, its forced “vaccinations” with unknown side-effects under threat of death. Finally, for the “difficult” dissidents, it off to the “special” re-education camp, never to be heard from again. Good men doing bad deeds rather than watch their children starve.In the US, the plebs will eventually rise up and rebel. And the white guys will start to slaughter each other. The Cloud People will smile. Mission accomplished.

What if it is all true? What if the current destruction that we’re seeing on a truly global scale, people celebrating their perversions and sacrificing their children to State ideals is actually the ratifying of sin and the damnation of souls on a global scale?The secularization of society and the demise of religion isn’t focused on all religion. It’s one religion. The most vicious, visceral atheist who spews at the mouth about religion probably has a Ganesh or Buddhist statue in their house. They think it’s charming or they love the Earth worship of Shinto.The powers that be do not care about Islam or Hinduism. Richard Dawkins wrote yet another book bashing religion . He starts off talking about belief in God, then narrows that to “the Abrahamic religions”. But after the first few pages it’s pretty much Christianity all the way. It’s always one religion they hate. They actually seem to be believers themselves, in what I’m not sure. I’m sure we’ve all seen the weird rituals at CERN and know about their Spirit parties and the widespread pedophilia and and the articles about their regeneration properties of young blood which leads to even scarier visions. The elites have been promoted atheism among the masses for generations but they don’t seem to be atheist do they?What if the Kingdom of heaven is real, you were just an exile on this Earth and the fate of your eternal soul is in the balance and you are being led away from your only salvation and to eternal damnation?

The imposition of elite values on the ‘lower orders’ seems to be a perennial source of social change and disruption. The fickle stance of elite classes toward their own cultural heritage does allow them to keep everyone else on their toes (after all, no one wants to run afoul of the rules of society). It also leaves the elite vulnerable to disruption themselves. What was once a revolutionary society can itself be tossed into the trash can of history.

By the way, Fox News showed its true colors by having a special on a “Brave” family that began transitioning their daughter before she could speak into a male. Thanks Fox! Doing your best to wake up normie and send him our way.

Maybe Christianity itself has root problems that are bearing these fruit. Just as Islam can be easily interpreted to require war with, conversion, and subjugation of non-believers, there is a lot of scripture that is easily interpreted as everyone is equal under the eyes of god, everyone is created equal, love thy enemy, pacifism, giving sanctuary to illegals crossing the border, etc. The DR loves to rail against blank slate egalitarianism as the root cause. However, I’d like to point out that China explicitly believes in its own version of Marxist egalitarianism, but still put its own people first and doesn’t fall into the same pitfalls as the West. Why? Maybe because it’s unencumbered by Christian doctrine.

For those of you needing a line on political Zionism and the perversion of Scripture I recommend Stephen Sizer and Christian Zionism Road Map to Armageddon 2003. You can download a pdf for free here-https://www.stephensizer.com/books/christian-zionism/A summation of this originally British Zionism (approx. 1820) heresy would be-“If Almighty God won’t restore the Jews to Palestine… then we will just have to do it ourselves.”200 years later what you get in US government, media and church world…It is interesting to observe Evangelical Christians doped up on political Zionism telling the Palestinians that they are not entitled to the Gospel of Jesus Christ and salvation through Him because of where they live.As for the Revelation of Jesus Christ and the need to create a late date authorship to sister up with Christian Zionism heresy and a futurist view needing the 91-96 AD date of John’s writing… desperation has seen enormous efforts to take scriptures both Old Testament and New Testament terribly out of context.For a refutation of the late date view see Kenneth Gentry Before Jerusalem Fell 1989 for a decent review of pre and post 70AD dating of this New Testament book. You can download a pdf for free here-https://web.archive.org/web/20060811163952/http://freebooks.commentary.net/freebooks/docs/a_pdfs/kgbj.pdfRevelation comes into Christian perspective when viewed as a ‘bill of divorcement’ from the whore of anti-Christ Judaism and the closing out of old covenant Judaism. Even today it is easy to understand a phrase like the ‘synagogue of Satan’ (Rev. 2: 9, 3: 9) and the people identified as just that.Put together this begins to give understanding of the ongoing problems Christianity has with modern day Jews/Judaism and the suffocation heresy of Christian Zionism that is strangling Western Christianity.

Real-world Christianity is an absolute enemy of *us* and a far greater threat to our survival than any other religious/ideological phenomenon (yeah, even those). Anyone who claims Christianity’s name supports it as it *actually exists*—and all it means now is replacing us with Somalians and molesting little boys. Gonna “not real communism” about it? Get in the fucking ditch.

Z, Trump was brought up in a Presbyterian family. (Shudder.)

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Christ was not well-known for his self defense. He prayed for those murdering him. Good thing he came back to life tho!

Gay marriage and stripping religion from public schools were not 50% plus 1, they were 5-4 affairs that never had anything like popular support. Even one of the most progressive states in the US, California, strongly voted against gay marriage.Quite a bit of the evil of the last 77 years came from the bench overturning what voters thought. Really, we have FDR to thank for this (not to mention the tribe’s influence in the court). There is a reason all this stuff started in the post war period. By the time he died, he had appointed the entire supreme court and probably thousands of federal judges. Their rulings became classwork in law school. Their progressive legal theories basically took over law schools. They had many thousands of clerks they heavily influenced. The average bar association in the US is probably more progressive than the average state university in the US.There is a reason child molesters can get any lawyer they can afford or even free private defense lawyers who volunteer for them and Chris Cantwell and his ilk either can’t get a lawyer at all or they end up with a clown with no real standing in the legal “community” Cantwell talked about that on his “show” at the time. He said he called a lot of lawyers, lawyers who represented truly awful people, but who would not represent him at any price.

It is interesting, is it not, that the 3 main religious factions in the USA (Orthodoxy is an ethnic niche for grandparents and Episcopalians angry about women bishops but who don’t want to become papists) each is tasked with promoting one element of our doom:Catholics: mass immigrationMainline prots: globohomoEvangelical prots: ZionismOf course, there are overlaps, but as I say, each seems to specialize in one strand.Now, the comeback is “But… they have been infiltrated and subverted from within.” Well, if that’s true, then that shows they cannot and never were able to “protect society” or whatever it is that conservatives think their role is.So, Christianity is either a (presumably, Jewish) weapon of destruction itself, OR is incapable of defending society from such weapons.

Satan is real. After last night’s tv programming, I’m starting to believe it. https://youtu.be/Jefl9jdOfpY

Frankly I don’t see any hope for Christianity unless they do something like “Christianity 2.0: Screw the meek.” Nietzsche was on to something with the idea of slave morality. You make the traits of losers into moral virtues in order to attract all the resentful peasants under one banner to overthrow the strong, but the problem for Christianity is that they got outplayed by leftism which had an even bigger tent by adding the kinds of perverts that the Christians couldn’t tolerate. Now they’re trying to play catch-up by including the perverts as well, but that just makes Christianity another flavor of leftism.

Churches around here are flying pride and tranny flags. That tells me all I need to know.

Denominational splits are nothing new. I believe the first wave of them happened around the time of the War of Northern Aggression, when many (perhaps all?) American denominations split over the issue of slavery.The Presbyterian church split into two main factions, which today are known as PCA and PCUSA. PCUSA is the liberal, gay-lifestyle-affirming, gay-ordaining branch, five times as big as the PCA, but declining in membership.What it means for a church to affirm and embrace woke liberal values, of course, is that they are choosing to ignore the plain words of both the Old and New Testaments. Affirming radical feminism means ignoring the clear New Testament mandate for male headship; and embracing homosexuality requires ignoring numerous passages in both the Old and New Testaments which unequivocally condemn it.And yet, these liberal denominations all continue to affirm the Bible as God’s inspired word. How they can claim that, yet also ignore those parts of it they don’t like, has never been clear to me.If you truly believe that the Bible was inspired (“breathed-in” in the original NT Greek) by the God who created everything— who spoke the entire Universe into being!— wouldn’t the logical response be to try and follow ALL of it? And not— whenever the latest progressive cultural beliefs collide with Biblical injunctions— rush to ditch what God said, and embrace progressive dogma?Be that as it may, liberal denominations have no problem doing exactly that: embracing and affirming the full range of progressive beliefs and causes: radical feminism, anti-White “anti-racism”, biological egalitarianism, gay (and now “trans”) rights, “social justice” and “equity”, “hate speech” laws which effectively negate the 1st Amendment.So when we’re considering the collision of values between the Church and liberal democracy, I think it’s helpful to make a distinction: between ‘woke’ denominations and ‘traditional’ denominations.The woke congregations will have no problem abandoning traditional Christian values and embracing liberal/progressive democratic values; for the most part they already have.It’s only those denominations and congregations that take the Bible seriously, and hold to traditional values, that will rightly see the values of liberal democracy as opposing and threatening their way of life.

Faith is part of positive identity. Skepticism would be part of negative identity. Multi-faith, like multi-culture, is no identity.The strange part, on the surface, is that faith by definition is unproven. So positive identity would also be, in part, unproven. But I suppose that would be the aspirational part. The creative part that by will changes conditions.I guess that’s lefty’s opening, the aspirational and the need to believe, which righty has neglected in recent decades. Which also seems to be taking the initiative rather than passively waiting for the other side to piss the public off. I’d also guess that’s why lefty had reputation as the good guys for so long. They had vision, however twisted, for the future that went above the practical.Or something like that, off the top of my head.

https://www.firstthings.com/web-exclusives/2022/06/in-america-but-not-of-americathese folks are reproducing . they have some issues , but they are a ongoing concern. there are things to learn here.

Nothing new in this article, Z-man. We KNOW the demographic catastrophe was all engineered with primarily 2 basic steps: 1) Transfer TRILLIONS of dollars from family-formers to incompetents, idiots, and criminals. 2) Create feminism to explode marriage and teach women it’s better to double the labor force, pay taxes, and decrease wages than to take care of kids.

If anybody’s looking for a solution to the human condition, the Creator gave you one: White People. Famine, pestilence, want, violence:Buddy, we do it all. Even speed, or flight, or air conditioning. We can’t eliminate these things, but, by gum, we sure do get a handle on them. Waiting for the cavalry?You were already sent.You ARE the cavalry. So get to it.

You have Andy Stanley and other megachurch pastors dead to rights. A couple of things to point out, these churches have been hammered by their long Covid shutdowns and are only running at about 40-50% of their pre Covid attendance levels. Stanley’s eight locations are probably only getting 15,000-16,000 per week now. Willow Creek Church in suburban Chicago recently announced they are laying off 30% of their staff. These churches all have names that either make them sound like a country club or they use a random action verb like “Embrace” or “Celebrate.”Pastors like Stanley aren’t all that concerned about the attendance drop because they have already established themselves on the celebrity pastor circuit and make far more money from book and Bible Study sales than they do from their churches. These churches are entertainment driven instead of participatory worship driven. After a year plus of telling people it was ok to watch at home they have had a hard time convincing them to come back. Their response has been to up the entertainment level even further, earlier this year Stanley had his worship service open with their band playing a Led Zepplin medley. It would be good for this model of church to fail and fade away, but I fear for the societal impact if the people attending abandon the faith rather than find their way into solid churches. Pastoral quality has been declining rapidly, with the primary reason being most of the seminaries are as bad every other level of higher education.

That the plutocrats, kritocrats, kakistocrats, “democrats”, faucicrats, gate-o-crats and other schwab-o-crats are insufferable SOBs is by now a more than widely agreed upon opinion (in these circles, I mean); eventually we will have to move on from there and do something, or nothing.

To flee l’ennui– that’s the name of the gameWe do it – the Universe does itYou can elaborate – there’s no need to complicateThe Everlasting Dissatisfaction keeps things in motionThat’s all there is to it – it’s all we ever need to know. (to be forgotten is to be forgiven)

The Mormon church recently renovated their temple located in DC. After remaining closed for several years due to covid and then the reconstruction, it is now open to the public before it’s upcoming “dedication”. Some friends who are members of the LDS faith walked through recently and told me that the only major difference they noticed is fact that the walls are now plastered with artwork displaying black families and mixed race couples.

Hard to say what the answer is. Canada has even less Christian influence. It is somewhat similar to what KL described. (I am ignorant about Catholicism so I won’t talk about them here).There are a handful of non-denominational / former Baptist churches around with conservative messages. They don’t have much influence on greater society, but more as clubs for White people with common sense (ie. not totally insane). These aren’t a bad thing.There are also some Pentecostal / charismatic churches. Don’t know much about them except that they seem to be for mentally ill / insane people. Hey, better for low IQ rural White people to be jumping on the pews speaking in tongues than to be opioid addicts, so whatever.There are also handfuls of other sects, Jehovas Witness, Mormons, and Mennonites around. Again nothing wrong with them but they don’t have the numbers to have much influence. Mennonites/Amish have a super high birth rate but such low starting numbers that it doesn’t matter much. I suspect they will be pushed out of Ontario over time due to development and land prices.Finally there are the immigrant churches. This is where immigrants go to church, their kids almost never stay Christian and become assimilated anti white, godless, haters. These churches are transient and change ownership depending on which demographic is immigrating to white area.These are fine but I don’t think they have the will or the numbers to change much. The good thing is that alot of them seem to have completely ignored the political process. That mega church guy is right, churches becoming too politically intertwined with the Right is just as bad as becoming intertwined with the Left. As the Americas naturally balkanizes, becoming disconnected from greater society and focusing on our own community is good.Unfortunately it means the remaining churches appear to be small oases of sanity on a dying desert. I don’t know what the solutions are, but I’m not convinced it’s Christianity. That said it’s currently the only tool we have.

Church and denomination splits are going to keep happening. Even to the Catholic Church eventually.The pattern that will keep repeating:Church splits between the traditional bible-based and the woke.The lefty church goes off to die a slow death because why bother? If I want to worship the state and celebrate homos, I could stay home and watch MSNBC.The bible-based church grows quickly until the woke types start causing trouble – rinse and repeat.

What a spectacular post, Z. It is a rather big piece of meat to tear into with only an hour for your presentation. There is a lot going on here.

i’m an agnostic so take what I say with a grain of salt. My view is that if you’re a pastor – speak from the heart and be sincere. Like it reminds me of the king of the hill episode where Hank says “you’re not making Christianity any better but you are making rock music worse .”It’s one of those things where if you’re trying to write a book and you have an idea of what you want to write and try to fit everything through that square peg – you might not like what you end up with. Or going on vacation with a grocery list of things to do – you’re not going to end up with a vacation but basically all the stresses of day to day life without all the comforts of home.

My understanding–and correct me if I’m wrong–is that, while belief in God is declining in Old Europe, it is holding relatively firm in AINO. (Canada, New Zealand, Australia, I do not know.) However, in AINO church attendance is certainly in decline. This suggests to me that people in AINO who used to attend churce, now worship privately, or in small groups of likeminded souls. Christianity, in other words, has separated from the Church.My personal situation reflects this. Prior to the Covid Captivity, I attended a Methodist church regularly. Imposition of the mask, however, put the kibosh on that. Simultaneously with this development, the minister resigned and was replaced by a younger guy who occasionally brings in a negro BLM activist to harangue the overwhelmingly white congregation. Suffice it to say, I haven’t returned, nor will I. I suspect my situation is anything but unique.

Here in Europe especially Britain Christianity has been in decline since 1918. The First World War fatally holed the good ship Christianity below the waterline. Many who lost fathers,sons,brothers,uncles and nephews asked themselves why a good all merciful God would have permitted the horrors of the trenches and the slaughter on an industrial scale. Mothers,wives could not come up with anything faintly resembling a satisfactory answer. Google The Somme and Verdun,look at the images of the trenches,the vast ocean of mud,the landscape dotted with blackened stumps of trees. Soldiers with that ‘thousand yard stare’ poison gas attacks, deliberate attacks on civilian populations and 24 hour artillery bombardments and you’ll will see why Christianity started to die in Europe.In Europe,particularly Germany in the early to middle 19th century there arose the distinct feeling that Christianity had become weak, wishy-washy and uninspiring and this had caused a social and cultural malaise. To counteract this, intellectuals tried to reintroduce the old Greek Gods and Greek heroes only to realise that Zeus,Apollo were as dead as the dinosaurs and no amount of pushing the Greek world upon the public would work.I strongly,and yes,sadly fear that we won’t see any sort of return to Christianity in Europe.

My wife and I moved south a few months ago. We were already in the process of withdrawing from our liberal Presbyterian USA church – could not take the politics, heresies, and covid bs any longer.In the south, we have visited a number of conservative bible-based churches which are great. Missouri Synod Lutherans, Presbyterian Church in America and ECO Presbyterian churches. There is even an Anglican Province of America church nearby that still uses the 1928 American Book of Common Prayer for worship.The difference in the community is noticeable.

I don’t think there is a tremendous difference between what the Soviet Union did to the Orthodox Church and what the United States has done with Christianity in general. Both absorbed the church and turned it into an agent of the State, although in the early days of the USSR there was violence that has not come to the United States yet (I think the totalitarians who run this country will focus more on individuals than organizations for the foreseeable future). American churches, with courageous exceptions, basically are public schools now–hotbeds of indoctrination and propaganda. As you mentioned, the focus for the moment is on bringing White Christians to heel, because, reasons.The United States is an end stage empire, though. There has been a tendency of past totalitarian states, including the aforementioned Soviet Union, to re-embrace past institutions like religion as the unraveling begins. That may happen here.

A re-Christianization of the West is nowhere near a close reality. When it does occur it will be from a small remnant living in a new dark ages. It is at that point population growth will begin after a nadir of population, as will a restoration of civilization and science.The imperial decline of the United States and its puppet states known collectively as Western Europe are all part of this great cycle. We have a long way to the bottom, and most people still don’t recognize the danger signals. It can still be saved but the chances of that grow dimmer by the month.Considering that just about every large denominations are having losing people, especially the young, and their publicly well-known corruption, and don’t know if they’re in the position to do anything constructive. For example, most Southern Baptists will repeat some mantra an “elder” told them to parrot, and really aren’t capable of seeing the problem much less recognizing it.It wouldn’t surprise me that in some post West world, the various Orthodox Churches will re-Christianize the West. They seem to be the most solid and viable with a resolute direction right now..

Loved this show. Spot on. I’m hopeful that legacy Christians — the descendants of Christendom — return to our Monarch by the hundreds of millions. Probably not in my life time and it won’t be peaceful. But it is necessary. There can be no Christian church, in the long term, without Christians nations (bloodlines/races) with a corresponding state that supports that goal. The Christian reconquest of Iberia (~710 to 1492) from the Muslims is the role model, even if it takes seven centuries.

Here are my predictions for how religion will develop in the US over the next few decades:-Liberal Catholicism will eventually exhaust itself and the leadership of the church will start to get more conservative/trad-leaning. It will look more like the current leadership of the USCCB (Abp. Gomez, a conservative, is President, the bishop of the Anglo-Catholic Ordinariate created by Benedict XVI–which explicitly does not use the Novus Ordo Missal in favor of what is basically the TLM in English–is the head of the USCCB’s liturgy committee), than the crop of liberal US Cardinals Pope Francis has selected, all of whom are libs. In the meantime, the libs will push “reforms” but never go so far as to explicitly perform gay marriages or ordain womenpriests, which would provoke a schism. The size of the church will decline noticeably but it will remain the largest single denom. in the US, and basically everywhere else in the West and Latin America, due to the fractured nature of Protestantism.-The main conflict within the RCC decades from now will be trads v. charismatics, not trads v. libs. These are the main two growth areas in the Church, maybe the only growth areas. There are self-described “Tradismatics” out there who try to balance liturgy with speaking in tongues, but its a small niche and the friction between the two tendencies is obvious.-Liberal Protestantism will basically die out and the mainline denoms might merge.-Conservative variants of traditional Protestant denoms will also decline, like the LCMS and the PCA; the distinctions between different protestant traditions being meaningless to all but a small niche of intellectual types. “Calvinists” in 2022 exist only online and maybe in a few graduate programs. Normies are conditioned to church-hopping and view the traditional denominations are interchangeable.-Protestantism will instead be characterized by low-church, Baptist/non-denominational congregations. Many if not most of these churches will be charismatic/Pentecostal. Others will be low-church but entirely anti-charismatic (i.e. John MacArthur). Others will be somewhere in the middle.-The prevalence of both Pentecostalism and the lack of centralized authority will lead to some of these churches developing into Mormon-ish offshoots of Christianity that introduce novel doctrines, or even new scriptures, to the point that they will become non-Christian.-In the immediate future being associated with a conservative Christian denom, including the RCC, will be a social handicap. Big corporations will not want to hire “bigots”. This really isn’t a prediction, as its already going on. I think the reason why Amy Coney Barret and David French adopted African children was because BigLaw firms were adverse to hiring Evangelicals/Catholics, and having a Black kid was a way for a potential hire to balance things out.-Islam’s growth in the US and Western Europe will be entirely fueled by off the boat immigrants. Few natives will convert and there will a high attrition rate of second/third generation immigrants who leave the faith.

The decline of Christianity in the West is a death from a thousand small cuts. It was clear, even in the late 20th Century, that there was something seriously wrong with society. In one sense, this is nothing new. Christianity often appears to have one foot in the grave and seems to leap from one crisis to another. Vibrant Christian societies are the exception to the general rule. A decaying Christianity is often a symptom of a decadent culture, propelled by the energy of its past. The path forward lies, in part, by founding and organizing new organizations and, if possible, reforming old ones. These organizations step into the breach when the old order finally fades away.

This phenomenon has been already been analyzed bysomeone who knows what he’s talking about.

Good podcastConcerning the condition of the church a couple of thoughtsChrist Himself said that not all who call me Lord Lord will enter the kingdom of God and Christs message to some churches in John’s Revelation vision was not very positive and even hostile in some cases.Christ’s message to one church in particular if my memory serves me correctly was that He would spew it out of His mouth.Concerning the rainbow churches and multiculturalism.The Apostle Paul did not travel around to Athens and Corinth and Ephesus declaring you guys need more Vandals and Egyptians here! And why doesn’t everyone accept homosexuals?That was NOT the message of the epistles of Paul.Today we have an apostate Christian church in some cases and church related organizations influenced by liberal Democratic morality.And it’s a big part of our problems.

Like Belloc said, the Faith is Europe and Europe is the Faith.

Spot-on. If bull giraffes in sub-Saharan Africa started having anal intercourse with each other instead or mating the cow giraffes, or if the cow giraffes started killing their offspring and reproduction rates declined precipitously, university biologists would fly in from around the world to determine what the source of the problem is and try to implement breeding programs to prevent the giraffe from going extinct. When white humans start having anal intercourse with each other and aborting their offspring… U.S. Embassies fly the gay pride flag and lefty nutjobs try to assassinate Supreme Court justices.

The reproduction rate is below replacement in nearly every country in the world, except for sub-Saharan Africa. Japan’s population is already declining, as is the White population in the US. Whites are a minority in the under 15 age group.The cause of the reproduction failure in most of the world is most likely the education of women. In Western countries, which generally lead the world in women’s education, there is a direct negative correlation between years of education and reproduction. Women with PhD’s or MD’s or LD’s usually have no children.There is no mystery about this. Women’s reproduction potential is maximal between about 14 and 25, and it declines steadily thereafter, reaching zero fertility about age 40. Of course, in modern societies, 14 to 25 are the ages women spend in school, 14 to 30 for doctoral students.The real conclusion is that humans are maladapted to modern society, and especially to its educational programs. In Darwinian terms, modern society is an environmental disaster for humans, a slow moving Extinction Level Event, like the asteroid that killed the dinosaurs, and every bit as effective.

The part about participation in the rules of a Church is also very open to chicanery by people in power. The people running these “listening sessions” always design it to come to their predetermined conclusions. There were a couple cases of Bishops getting together for a Synod and meeting documents leaking that literally had nothing to do with what happened in the Synod, likely because they were written before the Synod ever started.Then after they publish their “findings”, usually with some sort of policy change, they’ll finger wag the conservatives with “consensus” or “obedience”, to get them to fall in line. Note this never happens the other way around. It’s a classic example of manipulating procedural outcomes to get your way.This is universal too, as you will see the same thing happen in corporations and governments. Once you see how the sausage of democratic procedure is made, you can’t unsee it, which is why democracy only works in small, homogenous, very high trust groups.

The main flaw I note in today’s essay is this: Zman seems to implicitly assume that the entirety of the West’s decline can be laid to the loss of Christian faith. I realize there are a lot of believers here. I am not one of them. With that caveat, I hope you will still consider my argument. Christianity can and does offer a moral, social, etc. framework for a society. But it does not have sole claim to that. I can cite you numerous other cultures in world history that are non-Christian and yet those cultures survived and at times even flourished, heathen though they may have been. Equivalently, I could easily find you myriad historical examples where nations suffered chaos, revolution, war, and other unhappiness, despite the fact that they were predominantly Christian (or any other religion, for the matter.) Perhaps they were not Christian enough, or were the wrong type of Christian? In brief, what I assert is simply that religion is more likely a product of a particular culture and not its cause.

Connecting dots.In a democracy, selecting political leadership is largely determined by voting patterns and the degree of election fraud that is permitted by law enforcement organizations. Voting patterns are largely determined by the quality of the electorate, their susceptibility to media indoctrination, and habit. For example, stupid people tend to be easily bribed for a few shekels. Same for being influenced by targeted media campaigns that push the right buttons. And, of course, tribalism is why 90% of blacks always vote Democrat. This fraction of the electorate has now been dominant for over half a century and will only increase with illegal immigration. But overriding all that is the influence of organized vote fraud campaigns. A sea change occurred in 2020 when massive and overt vote fraud was perpetrated in numerous states as documented in “2000 Mules.” More specifically, this fraud was enabled by both political parties and the complicity of the Stasi. The latter is why social trust can never be restored within the current system of government.We are now in the throes of a vicious cycle in which we proactively elect corrupt politicians that print fiat money to bribe for votes and then covertly do the bidding of the Cloud People. This can continue as long as living standards are rising and even the poorest fraction of society can easily get obese and have a free cell phone. But the plates are now wobbling on their sticks and the world is waking up the reality of the counterfeit dollar.The bubble will eventually burst and then things will get interesting. Methinks the Year of Living Dangerously is nearly upon us.

Correlation does not equal causation. The decline in European fertility can’t have anything to do with declining religious faith, because fertility has been declining everywhere in the world outside of sub-Saharan Africa, including in militant theocracies like Iran. The true cause is the modern lifestyle, which makes it difficult and expensive to have children. Unique in the world, the people of sub-Saharan Africa lack the intelligence to create societies that support the modern lifestyle for most members of those societies, and this social failure is being rewarded with massive reproductive success. This is Darwinian natural selection turned on its head, and this, rather than climate change, is going to be the defining crisis of the 21st century.

FWIW. I belong to a Russian Orthodox parish in a large Southern city. We have been seeing a huge inflow of converts, mostly from the evangelical churches, most of whom (in aforesaid Southern cities at the least) took a total knee to the “powers and principalities” represented by BLM and Antifa. I’d expect this trend to continue.

funny how the failures of christianity and conservatism parallel each other so closely.

And thus Calvin and Hobbes had lost all spirit like being trapped in an elevator with Muzak doing Jimi Hendrix. It was a poison that would kill them both and they knew it.Similarly they both knew that going to church was equally suicidal in that they would suffocate in an atmosphere of anti-Christ political Zionism trying to pass itself off as Christianity.The coroner’s report for both would read “Died of an unknown cause” because all medical examiners had no knowledge or awareness of an anti-Christ culture or its infectious nature. They did however know that something was wrong with society, culture, media and government. They just couldn’t put their finger on it except around Christmas or Thanksgiving when a slight disturbance in the world became noticeable or when old folks spoke of the Son of God and something called the ‘Resurrection’.

Viewed another way… if you turn your back on God, He will turn his back on you. Enjoy your fake and gay society, America!😆😆