Conspiracy Land

Note: The Monday Taki post is here and there is a post behind the green door from the weekend.


Something that seems to be a part of every revolution and great period of social unrest is that a cloud of suspicion descends on the society. The people, through distrust and ignorance, no longer understand or trust their rulers. The rulers, because of insularity and obstinance, no longer understand what is happening in their society. There may be factions in the public that view one another with suspicion, so they are not able to properly evaluate one another, adding to the chaos.

One thing that happens when people can no longer trust their rulers is they are ready to believe anything. The French Revolution and Bolshevik revolution, for example, had periods where crazy rumors rocketed around society. We are seeing this today with the QAnon stuff and the election lawsuits. The former was mostly escapism for unhappy people on the left-side of the bell curve. The latter was escapism for the civic nationalists who are one step from exiting the system.

In both cases, the role of these rumors and wild theories is to distract from the reality on the ground. People really wanted to believe Trump was the answer to the failing system, so they were willing to accept increasing ridiculous explanations for his inability and unwillingness to follow through on his promises. The people into this stuff are not sitting around compulsively cleaning their weapons, surrounded by stocks of MRE’s. They are highly engaged citizens who believe in the system.

Suburban civ-nats are not the only people indulging in escapism. The cosmopolitan loyalists have their own Harry Potter version of reality. You see it in this ridiculous video put out by the Tubby Tyrant of the Tidewater. Hogan is backed by the Chinese Communist Party and the neoconservatives, who think they can slither back into power and it will be the Bush years all over again. Republican escapism is built on the idea that everyone will just forget about the last four years.

You see, in this fantasy, Trump is expelled from their midst and the people rally to their banner, prepared to return to a world of old fashioned toadyism. Those sober-minded Republicans will be at the helm again, promising tax cuts for billionaires and endless wars for Israel. After all, that’s what Edmund Burke and Reagan would do. Of course, their masters promote the idea, as you see in this post. Ross Duothat’s role is to promote conservative’s official role in the farce of politics.

You’ll note that no where in that post or any of the writings of these people is there any consideration for why any of this is happening. That Duothat post should have been accompanied by this picture. While lots of white people are no doubt indulging in fantasy in the face of the massive corruption we are seeing, they are doing so for a deeper reason than just escapism. There are real problems that are not going to be papered over by installing the Pretender Biden.

Reality avoidance is not just for the little people. The reaction to the Covid-10 pandemic by members of the plutocracy is another form of escapism. Bill Gates sees himself as a trusted wise man in modern society. He has been out front promoting the latest fads on the coronavirus virus. Why a retired computer executive thinks he is an expert on pandemics is a mystery, but a bigger mystery is why he thinks the world at large trusts his judgement and advice on this issue.

This is probably the most remarkable aspect of the pandemic. The people in charge are completely unaware of the fact that hardly anyone believes them. Even the people wearing their masks to bed think the rulers have botched things. We’re not seeing public surveys on the handling of the pandemic, as it would be a waste of time and it would contradict the fantasy. The people at the top really think they are beloved by the public and it is a small bunch of hooligans causing trouble for them.

To some degree, it really does not matter what anyone thinks, other than the people in control of the institutions. They have the monopoly of force, so they can impose their reality on the rest of us. We see this with the election. The media and tech oligarchs are erasing any questions about the election and will carry on as if the Pretender Biden is a wildly popular hero of the people. They are even trying to sell him to religious people as a “church-going Catholic” who also believes in infanticide.

The thing is though, and this is the great irony of liberal democracy, is that the system needs the fantasy of self-rule to operate. The middle-class has to believe that their votes matter and the market place is always right. These efforts to suppress public debate in order to repress skepticism over the official narrative do more to undermine that fantasy of self-rule than the wild rumors. QAnon believers will keep believing the plan is still real. Take that away and the scales fall from their eyes.

This is why social unrest comes with wild rumors and conspiracy theories. The dynamic of distrust leads to various forms of escapism, which creates a barrier of confusion between the rulers and the ruled. The people at the top, rather than face their own role in the crisis, indulge in their fantasies. The people at the bottom look for explanations as to why things are not as they were promised. The desire to impose an official narrative creates more distrust, leading to more conspiracy theories.

House slaves like Ross Duothat hope that the escapism is a substitutive for real action, but the ongoing street theater says otherwise. The far Left was promised a revolution, so they will not play along with the fantasy. Now the populist Right is getting a taste of street radicalisms and they like it. A new populism is being born in the streets during these election protests. Lots of unhappy people in the streets, feeling the rush or revolt, will have time to share their theories with one another.

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365 Comments

Drake #220978 December 14, 2020 9:45 am 61
“How can the stock market be booming when the economy is being cratered by lock downs?”We are watching an orchestrated wealth transfer from small businesses to large connected ones.
Jack Dobson #220982 December 14, 2020 9:47 am 36
Exactly. As someone wrote here recently, the dying empire has entered the looting stage.
ABCer #221030 December 14, 2020 10:15 am 17
Yes a lot of that was buybacks.See Boeing. The stock market rose on debt financed stock buybacks.
RoBG #221249 December 14, 2020 3:40 pm 5
Also “the New York Fed’s Trading Desk has grown from $576 billion in holdings of domestic securitiesas of December 31, 2008(at the peak of the last financial crisis) to$6.59 trillion as of December 9, 2020. And according to the New York Fed’s most recent financial statement, its Trading Desk’s domestic securities holdings have spiked by $15.9 billion in just the past week.”https://tinyurl.com/y4ucvsnoOur economy is run less ethically than a Las Vegas Casino after the mob relocated from Cuba.
Dinothedoxie #221014 December 14, 2020 10:09 am 22
Not exactly. The stock market is booming because it is entirely driven by the feds money creation, not the underlying health or lack thereof of the company’s whose stocks are traded there. Thats largely been the case since at least 2009. It’s just become painfully obvious this year.
Ostei Kozelskii #221157 December 14, 2020 12:37 pm 6
I think it’s a bit of both.
Dennis Roe #221299 December 14, 2020 8:02 pm 3
Buy wheelbarrow stock, everyone’s gonna need one instead of a wallet.
Wolf Barney #221059 December 14, 2020 10:32 am 26
But they’re going to Build Back Better! Translation: less White businesses, more black businesses because they need to “champion justice and redress the intersectionality of systemic inequalities that exist.” (World Economic Forum-speak.)
Judge Smails #221083 December 14, 2020 11:01 am 9
From Arthur Sido:Cory Booker is proposing a $240 billion dollar program to create 200,000 black farmers.Dissident Thoughts: Cory Booker’s Plan To Turn America Into South Africa (arthursido.com)
grab-ass #221187 December 14, 2020 1:59 pm 5
blacks cant fargin’ farm
abprosper #221189 December 14, 2020 2:00 pm 1
It probably won’t work for a myriad of reasons but if they are already in already heavily Black states and were are actually interested in the hard work of yeomanry and got the right training, that idea wasn’t bad at all.
Citizen of a Silly Country #221212 December 14, 2020 2:36 pm 17
Saw that a few weeks back. Pure looting. Nobody thinks blacks can or want to farm. This will be a simply transfer of money from your pockets to blacks. The blacks will sit on the land for a few years and sell it cheap to a certain group that will then either rent it out to farmers or sell it back at FMV. A small number of blacks and a certain group not to be named will make a bundle.
Educated.redneck #221214 December 14, 2020 2:39 pm -2
As long as they are turning over state and fed lands for new development, infrastructure to be done by FedGov, I HEARTILY support this idea. In 5 years, there will be huge opportunity for us to build our own communities in these newly highly developed ghosttowns.
Vizzini #221233 December 14, 2020 3:12 pm 13
No, it won’t work that way. You can’t let your enemies design the system and presume that you will be able to benefit from it.
RoBG #221251 December 14, 2020 3:45 pm 2
Is this apart from or in addition to theClaims Settlement Act of 2010 or “Pigford”https://tinyurl.com/ybu7eahv?
Vizzini #221232 December 14, 2020 3:11 pm 4
Worked so well in Zimbabwe.
usNthem #221144 December 14, 2020 12:20 pm 5
Maybe it should be Build Black Better..
OrangeFrog #221147 December 14, 2020 12:23 pm 13
If the Lord had ‘built black better’ we could all say, without argument, our present woes would not be upon us.
grab-ass #221188 December 14, 2020 1:59 pm 0
haha!
Paintersforms #221165 December 14, 2020 12:45 pm 8
Black businesses? What, like record labels?
sentry #221171 December 14, 2020 12:52 pm 2
and jordans
WCiv...---... #221082 December 14, 2020 10:59 am 25
The Covid lockdown will end as soon as every other business closes and everything you want can only be bought at Amazon or Walmart.
Peabody #221103 December 14, 2020 11:28 am 17
If I need a specialty product I search to see if it’s available on-line from the manufacturer. Without fail, the first links in the search are Amazon and Walmart. Sometimes the manufacturer doesn’t show up until the second page. And this is using DDG.
Drake #221195 December 14, 2020 2:13 pm 8
And you will still have local restaurants – they’ll just all be Applebees.
pozymandias #221304 December 14, 2020 9:27 pm 2
If Trump does decide to go dictator, I’m hoping one of the things he does is a multi-trillion dollar tax on the large companies that have benefited from the criminal lockdowns. He could even encourage our schadenfreude and sense of irony by calling it, oh I don’t know – “Build Back Better!” and saying that it’s “reparations” to small business for the damage done. Hilarious and delicious too. Maybe some things like Google, Amazon, and Facebook could just be nationalized outright. That and watching Zuck, Bezos, and Dorsey marched off to the camps would make for a beautiful New Year and springtime.
WCiv...---... #221327 December 15, 2020 7:11 am 0
Here’s the plan.Everything will be made in China.Everything will be sold by Amazon and Walmart.Everyone will be happy because you are either rich or sedated by Netflicks, spectator sports, and porn.
Durendal #220976 December 14, 2020 9:44 am 47
I have a large group of friends from a local church that is very conservative. By in large that have all been MAGA guys and big supporters of the GOP. To a man over the weekend they all have admitted that the Republicans have never actually supported them or the issues imported to conservative Christians. The shenanigans with the election and the Republican response has stripped away the last shred of support for them or honestly for liberal democracy. I was shocked and I now believe that things have been set in motion that will probably make the last century look like a boy scout get together.
Jack Dobson #220988 December 14, 2020 9:52 am 38
I was dubious that a Trump loss due to widespread fraud would discredit the nation but hopeful. I’m glad to have been wrong in my skepticism. American Yellow Vests will be interesting.
Paintersforms #221044 December 14, 2020 10:24 am -1
Have to admit I thought they’d whiff again and he’d prevail but it doesn’t look like it. Why? He’s relying on lawyers and lawmakers, he long ago marginalized (and allowed to be marginalized) the people who got him elected. Trump gave MAGA to the establishment losers. I still like the guy but he’s enjoying the consequences.The worst part is he’s painted himself into a corner where the only way out is to go dictator like his enemies always said he was. A countercoup by Trump would only be the last act in the movie.Frankly it would be better if he rides off and does no more damage. Let the winners figure it out.
Norham Foul #221074 December 14, 2020 10:51 am 19
Well maybe up next…the Donald goes to Florida nad the Desantis gives him a pardon for all existing and future crimes. The Donald is no longer compelled to return to NYC by extradition force.Personally, I hope he just stays in office…fuck ’em
RoBG #221242 December 14, 2020 3:29 pm 1
Seriously? Governors can only pardon state-level crimes.
Vizzini #221225 December 14, 2020 3:05 pm 8
So, let the left do the damage instead? You act as if there’s a peaceful way out of this. Damage needs to be done.
Paintersforms #221240 December 14, 2020 3:25 pm 4
Poorly worded. I meant the winners from ‘16 who were marginalized and censored the last few years. Trump tried to go establishment right up until the last couple of weeks and it cost him.
Higgs Boson #221252 December 14, 2020 3:47 pm 5
Once we have established there is no law, there is no bag limit, as Z likes to say.
Paintersforms #221381 December 15, 2020 10:15 am 0
Also damage in the sense of Trump playing the White Russian role.
abprosper #221184 December 14, 2020 1:47 pm 4
I wonder how many will be kevlar vests?
B125 #221010 December 14, 2020 10:08 am 53
Boomer radicalization is real. I know one 60 year old former civnat who has done a 180 since the election. He was promoting tax cuts and legal immigration (must be legal!) before. Now, he’s yelling that the Republicans need to start committing fraud to fight back, calling them cowards, and says that you can’t fight fair when somebody wants to destroy you. He’s also suddenly developed a skepticism about immigrants, to the point where I’m telling him to tone it back in public, lest someone overhear the badthink. Crazy.
Paintersforms #221054 December 14, 2020 10:30 am 6
It’s time to be less openly radical then. At the risk of being a dick, I’m avoiding all things boomer, or maybe it’s better to say I’m participating in nothing they’re getting heavily involved in. They will never trust the ‘kids’ to lead, they were taught that capitalist patriots were fighting a losing war against the commies, and I have full confidence they’ll play that role. Time to hitch up to our own wagon.
David Wright #221077 December 14, 2020 10:55 am 27
My son tells me two former liberals he knows are now more for Trump after all the criminal acts. One woman has elevated Trump to crazy god like status. All in their thirties. Take from that what you will.
Paintersforms #221159 December 14, 2020 12:40 pm 5
Millennials. Let’s pray it’s a trend.
Paintersforms #221032 December 14, 2020 10:16 am 39
Visited the parents yesterday, had a talk with them. Told them they have to realize the Constitution is now completely dead and the law isn’t going to save anybody. To my surprise they agreed.
Marko #221053 December 14, 2020 10:29 am 16
I’m envious that you have family members that are conservative. Almost all mine are lefty, and I have to bite my tongue constantly.
Paintersforms #221065 December 14, 2020 10:36 am 9
I’m actually the ‘liberal’ of the family. Which is to say the only one crazy enough to stick my neck out, at least until recently. It’s kind of interesting that they see things more like I do, but also uncomfortable. I’m actually worried for them, because they’ve always avoided conflict. Not that I’m some badass, but I’m trying to give them a crash course. Proud of them though.
David Wright #221080 December 14, 2020 10:58 am 9
You are going to create permanent damage to your tongue speak up and stop that
Paintersforms #221151 December 14, 2020 12:29 pm 0
edit: I read that wrong 🙂
Juri #221098 December 14, 2020 11:25 am 31
Typical collapse scenario similar to Soviet Union. With Gorbachev in charge, there was massive enthusiasm and optimism. Only to turn bitter disappointment very rapidly. Like probably now in the US , in late Soviet Union our folk also had a big hope to long awaited reforms until general public understood that system is so rotten and corrupt that nobody is able to reform it. At the very end, our public opinion turned also 180 in very short time. After 1917 our people were aware what may happen, when society is blown up. Within weeks in summer 1991 people against blowup became people pro blowup. This rotten monster must be gone and now we are ready to take risk. Big systems sinking like big ships. In the beginning, things are very slow, in the end very fast. Soviet Union was rot for decades, everybody were used to it. And then, within 3 days, it was gone.
tarstarkas #221128 December 14, 2020 11:58 am 6
Whatever happens, it is not going to look like the collapse of the Soviet Union.
Ostei Kozelskii #221136 December 14, 2020 12:10 pm 14
I don’t really care what it looks like just so long as the collapse happens.
Xman #221316 December 14, 2020 11:08 pm 4
Oh, you’ll care, all right. Your pension and savings in the world’s reserve fiat currency wiped out, joggers looting a raping at will while what’s left of the state declares emergency powers and communist DAs go after you for even having the means of defending yourself because it’s a hate crime to do so.Remember how bad the collapse of Germany was during Weimar… and yet the government still had the power to arrest Uncle A and throw him in prison for the Munich putsch.Collapses are rarely as neat and tidy as we wish them to be. The collapse of the USSR may have been an exception… bit of course a lot of people paid the price in the previous 70 years.
Ostei Kozelskii #221412 December 15, 2020 11:19 am 0
Whatever happens, happens. If I survive, I at least have a chance to see Western civilization revived. Much better than watching it slowly bleed to death over the last 30+ years of my life.
DFCtomm #221545 December 15, 2020 5:43 pm 1
It’s called precious metals and buying land in some middle of nowhere part of Appalachia.
Ben the Layabout #221466 December 15, 2020 1:57 pm 0
I would be much more afraid that it will look like the first three or four Decades of the Soviet Union. Read Gulag Archipelago or other history. They rounded up everybody whether old communists, Trotskyist, real or imagined spies, anyone who could conveniently be denounced, even war heroes from World War II. Nobody was spared and it cost the lives of tens of Millions. If something comparable were to happen here they would round up anybody from us Conservatives to the most liberal Democrats of today. You don’t have to be a real criminal or enemy, you just have to be an imagined One, or somebody in a party office has a quota to fill that week.
Ostei Kozelskii #221135 December 14, 2020 12:09 pm 15
Those are the most inspirational words I’ve heard in quite some time.
BtR #221324 December 15, 2020 4:42 am 1
Good comparison. Ironically we’d hope to achieve as peaceful a collapse, if it happens
Sand Wasp #221104 December 14, 2020 11:28 am 10
To a man over the weekend they all have admitted that the Republicans have never actually supported them or the issues imported to conservative Christians. I have lurked on freerepublic for the last 20 years. They have been saying the same thing forever. It doesn’t matter, they have the memory of a goldfish, and they always forget the anger and betrayal by the next election ”2024 most important election evah!”
Durendal #221138 December 14, 2020 12:12 pm 8
Normally I would completely agree with you but so much has changed and so many veils have been lifted from normie eyes that I believe they won’t forget.
grab-ass #221186 December 14, 2020 1:57 pm 11
I’ve never seen my elderly parents so disenchanted. THey usually agree with me just to shut me up, but now, unprovoked, are saying they will never vote again
tarstarkas #221122 December 14, 2020 11:49 am 11
All of the national congregations are run by SJWs. I expect no help from the churches, at least at the national level. The churches are going to try to tamp down on your friends. They will require strong leadership.
grab-ass #221181 December 14, 2020 1:35 pm 0
What is a “liberal democracy” ?
Juri #221211 December 14, 2020 2:34 pm 5
Renamed communism. Like social democracy, peoples democracy or latest our democracy.
Paintersforms #221248 December 14, 2020 3:35 pm 2
Yep. The American flavor of the stuff. It’s coming down one of these days…
Educated.redneck #221200 December 14, 2020 2:18 pm 0
Well, given what seems to have been the historical situation with the Boy Skirts, I imagine it has many parallels to things that happened last century, specifically in the oval office and on Epstein’s island in the 1990’s (and Berlin in the 1920’s).
DFCtomm #221544 December 15, 2020 5:40 pm 0
The people in charge have forgotten that faith in the system is the only thing that keeps the system together, and that is why they attack that faith. It’s a sign of the end times.
B125 #221031 December 14, 2020 10:15 am 38
Vote GOP! You get: – judges who look the other way on election fraud – millions of h1b scab visas to steal your jobs – jobs the h1b don’t take are sent to china in crooked trade deals – violent african felons let out of jail – platinum plan Yee haw! Principled conservatism!
Falcone #221046 December 14, 2020 10:25 am 10
Shhhh Mentioning reality is being mean
Judge Smails #221221 December 14, 2020 3:03 pm 0
I can’t remember exactly – was it the 90’s or early 2000’s when the “Mean People Suck” bumper stickers started appearing. The SJWs have been hating on us a long time.
Ostei Kozelskii #221282 December 14, 2020 5:19 pm 3
“Hate Has No Home Here” is the contemporary analogue to that one. The AWRs never tire of telling us just how gosh-dern sweet they are.
RoBG #221275 December 14, 2020 4:29 pm 2
A couple of weeks ago SCOTUS was discussing Deportation Relief. Gorsuch opined that the illegal in question “wasn’t using a Social Security card to defraud anybody of anything, but just to get a job.” FWIW, I’ve been the victim of identity theft. Nobody in LE will help you, even when merchants, etc. have cctv with the perps on film and are willing to help.
whitney #220981 December 14, 2020 9:45 am 28
It’s amazing how delusional Trump is. He can’t seriously think he’s running in 4 years. That he will live to see that as a free man?? So weird.My standard response when anyone starts talking fearfully about covid is to say “oh you know a lot of people that have died then?” I got to say it’s really amusing because of course the answer is always no they don’t know anyone. And then they start talking about the vaccine and how everything is going to be better in a few months and I just say “no it’s not” really calmly, smiling even. They have nothing to say because they know it’s true. They’re just trying to get me to agree with their fantasy world.
OrangeFrog #220993 December 14, 2020 9:57 am 15
And then they start talking about the vaccine and how everything is going to be better in a few months and I just say “no it’s not” really calmly, smiling even.Yes. The precedent has been set. A full year ago nobody would have even suggested ‘lockdown’ as a viable thing to do. We would rightly laugh at individuals fervently wearing their protective visors, maintaining the 2m distance and arguing about whether it should in fact be 2m or 1.644m.The future sure is going to be interesting; like well trained troops no doubt the populace will respond in lockstep when the next chink virus comes. Covid-24? We know the drill. Stay indoors. Wear the mask. Clap for the NHS.
Alzaebo #221056 December 14, 2020 10:32 am 8
Maybe someday we too can have 59 vaccinations and be as strong and healthy as the kids are.
DLS #221084 December 14, 2020 11:06 am 6
Covid-24? More likely, flu season every year.
The Wild Geese Howard #221198 December 14, 2020 2:17 pm 3
That’s essentially what they’re going for. London is being threatened with hard lockdown because the British government is claiming to have found a super-duper new strain of Beer Flu. Ooga booga!!!
Outdoorspro #221001 December 14, 2020 10:03 am 14
My standard response when anyone starts talking fearfully about covid is to say “oh you know a lot of people that have died then?”Be careful with that, because more and more people are dying of Covid and there will be plenty of banner-wavers.No, I’m not saying what you think I am… In the not-too-distant past, people frequently died at old age or from cancer or disease. Their passing may have been hastened on by a co-morbidity like pneumonia, influenza, common cold, or any number of relatively minor things that are nasty when the system is already seriously compromised. Everyone knew this and it wasn’t especially remarkable. That has changed with Covid.Now, if your beloved, terminally ill with invasive cancer, 85-year old grandmother finally passes, but with Covid on-board, she will forever be known as a “Covid Victim”. Covid is what finally killed her and every single family member now has that banner to waive and will effectively end your counter-argument.It’s best to be avoided, because any follow-up response will fall on deaf ears.
whitney #221005 December 14, 2020 10:07 am 20
It falls on deaf ears no matter what.
Outdoorspro #221008 December 14, 2020 10:08 am 3
Good point.
Drew #221033 December 14, 2020 10:16 am 10
Well, it doesn’t fall on deaf ears so much as it falls on dumb brains.
Outdoorspro #221048 December 14, 2020 10:27 am 5
Have you discovered a way to tell the difference?
Drew #221208 December 14, 2020 2:32 pm 4
Deaf people can’t hear, so they either don’t respond or they use sign language. Stupid people use words, but those words are come out in an insensible stream.
Ostei Kozelskii #221201 December 14, 2020 2:23 pm 3
And that ultimately may be our problem in a nutshell. Far too many people are just dumb as a pile of rebar.
Drew #221210 December 14, 2020 2:34 pm 4
Possibly. If there’s one lesson we should learn from the left, it’s that it’s best to use rhetoric that inspired dumb people, rather than try to reason with them. Just accept their stupidity and leverage it.
The Wild Geese Howard #221026 December 14, 2020 10:13 am 19
When gramma starts dying from the vax the Covidian argument will immediately flip to, “Lol, old people die all the time, silly.”
Paintersforms #221177 December 14, 2020 1:01 pm 8
I know nobody who’s died but many who’ve had their lives wrecked by the lockdown.
Bilejones #221286 December 14, 2020 5:39 pm 0
Be careful with that, because more and more people are dying of Covid and there will be plenty of banner-wavers dying after have a “test” come back positive is not the same as dying from the WuFlu.
B125 #221020 December 14, 2020 10:11 am 12
He’s gonna run from his jail cell in a fraud election where Kamala gets 800 gorillion votes and wins in a landslide victory. Lol.
Gunner Q #221091 December 14, 2020 11:21 am 10
I tried that. Didn’t work even when it did. One guy in the circle had a housemate whose mother’s friend died of COVID (and a lung transplant) and everybody else nodded sagely. There is no convincing them they’re wrong. They are separated from reality. You can hear the talking points and non sequiturs coming. “You can’t argue that face masks don’t block some of the aerosol droplets of your breath. Therefore, masks stop the spread of disease, which is also why you need to social distance.” Actual conversation.
Vizzini #221246 December 14, 2020 3:34 pm 3
whose mother’s friend died of COVID (and a lung transplant) Haha. Lung transplant. And a respiratory disease. Only person I know of second hand who died with COVID was already dying of pancreatic cancer. I also know of a guy with lung cancer who tested positive and they made him stay overnight, but by morning he’d had quite enough of that, thank you. Checked himself out and by the afternoon was out on his tractor working his farm. Yes, this virus is serious stuff.
David Wright #221215 December 14, 2020 2:41 pm 2
In four years there won’t be elections.
Vizzini #221243 December 14, 2020 3:30 pm 0
That would be the best possible outcome. Hard to make normie explain that away.
Manc #221305 December 14, 2020 9:29 pm 0
It’ll be an Americanized version of the PRI’s 70 year rule of Mexico. Illiberal democracy.
Vizzini #221241 December 14, 2020 3:27 pm 6
My standard response when anyone starts talking fearfully about covid is to say “oh you know a lot of people that have died then?”Most of my kids are super-based, but I have one daughter who is extremely conventional in a lot of ways. I was at the grocery store with her the other day and I kept flaunting the masking laws and she kept saying stuff like “Dad! Pull your mask up!” So, I’d pull it up a few seconds and then let drop down and go “Oops! Help! Police!” and she’d say “Dad!” But it was cracking her up. Normally I don’t wear the mask at all, but I have to take baby steps with her, reminding with her all the time that the system is a joke and the authorities don’t deserve our obedience. I remind her all the time that she’s at no danger at all from COVID.She’s the one kid that wasn’t homeschooled the bulk of her education — at her insistence, and it’s amazing the effect the world’s propaganda has had on her compared to the others, but even she can’t help but see the lies when they’re right in front of her face. She just wants to be a conventional, normal kid. She’s the stereotypical “normie.” It must be really hard for her to have aggressively defiant parents.
grab-ass #221338 December 15, 2020 9:05 am 0
I say,”how many loved ones have you lost to the Covid?”
Locust Post #221035 December 14, 2020 10:18 am 27
From what I see, the media is more fiction than fact—I guess that is why they refer to the news as a narrative.You have to trust your eyeballs first.In my case, I own a well-located building that housed a very popular, casual restaurant. The building is grand, the restaurant was simple, with excellent local food and reasonable prices.Covid shut the place down and street riots chased most of the customers away. The owner who supported a young family and forty or so employees ran out of money and is gone for good.There been no rent since the shutdown in March, although the local government raised my property taxes by 15%. Since I don’t have a mortgage they won’t be able to take the property from me and I’m just sucking up the costs that don’t go away.Since the building is well located, the space has been coveted by larger corporate restaurant groups for years. Although I like supporting local, small business, the only available tenants today are the big guys. I signed a new lease—it actually pays more than the previous tenant. The new restaurant is going to cater to the rich—the prices will be three times what they were before. None of this is right or just.   I believe my experience is happening everywhere.
David Wright #220990 December 14, 2020 9:55 am 25
When they tabulate unemployment numbers one thing goes missing. All the business owners and self employed don’t get counted when their careers are cancelled. That is a substantial number. Of course the official tabulations are not accurate but still needs to be said.
Falcone #221007 December 14, 2020 10:07 am 6
Yep, and that’s why the economic geniuses (I.e. 20 something analysts hired by mega firms) were caught by surprise at the higher number of unemployment claims in the past month
RoBG #221205 December 14, 2020 2:27 pm 1
Isn’t the “gig” economy great? /s
Chet Rollins #220979 December 14, 2020 9:45 am 25
> We are seeing this today with the QAnon stuff and the election lawsuits.While the idea of the lawsuits getting anywhere are the stuff of fantasy, as anyone can see with the clowns on the WI supreme court, it carries with it a propaganda victory. Even though the cases ARE solid, I’m pretty sure both Rudy and Trump are aware they will all get shot down, but what they succeed in doing is give cover for legislatures to override the election based on the general perception corrupt and weak courts. In the case they do not succeed, it makes Trump more of a martyr of a broken system, which will help his possible run in 2024.The refusal of the Supreme Court to even hear the case was a horrific mistake. Even if they denied it 9-0, which was likely based on the fact the state legislatures have all the power in selecting electors, not the popular vote, the optics were awful, and made it look like they wanted to ignore the clear issues with the election and the judicial system in general. That all three Trump appointees refused was just the cherry on top.
Jack Dobson #220985 December 14, 2020 9:49 am 9
This is the dream scenario for us.
The Wild Geese Howard #221011 December 14, 2020 10:08 am 9
The major question at this point is – Are there any teeth in Trump’s 2018 EO regarding electoral fraud?
Higgs Boson #221068 December 14, 2020 10:41 am 5
There’s this. Can’t wait to find out what the classified part is. “Ron on Twitter: “Research “Executive Directive 51” If a “catastrophic emergency” results in extraordinary levels of disruption affecting the US population, infrastructure, government functions, then POTUS may be able to dissolve Congress and suspend judicial review Exact details are classified.” / Twitter”https://mobile.twitter.com/CodeMonkeyZ/status/1337927415465533440
Apex Predator #221168 December 14, 2020 12:46 pm 5
Cope Harder. Trust the Plan! Did you read the article re: left side of the Bell Curve?
Higgs Boson #221191 December 14, 2020 2:07 pm 1
The visions of the lotus eaters on the left side create “reality.”
Educated.redneck #221216 December 14, 2020 2:46 pm 3
Eh. People don’t get their feet wet crossing the river until they are convinced in their own minds. You stay on the elevator for the ups and downs until you are convinced the wires snapped and no one is coming to fix it; only then do you get off and start walking.
Hedge #221075 December 14, 2020 10:55 am 12
Hopium is all we have left.
Educated.redneck #221217 December 14, 2020 2:47 pm 2
I prefer to trust in plumbium.
Vizzini #221235 December 14, 2020 3:14 pm 5
I’ll trust in copper-jacketed lead.
ProZNoV #221004 December 14, 2020 10:06 am 25
Trump will be 78 in 2024, and there is no way big tech will ever allow a populist not of their making to ever run again. Trump is a failure anyway…no one man without the backing of a national party can make big changes, so it’s not all his fault. The president is a creature of the system, and the system is irreparably broken. I won’t waste time (or money) backing the GOP or Trump ever again.
Chet Rollins #221028 December 14, 2020 10:15 am 21
I hope he doesn’t run again. If he can avoid prison, he would be much more effective as a kingmaker for the next generation and blasting the Liz Cheneys of the GOP. It’s just a matter of if his ego can handle that role.
Paintersforms #221169 December 14, 2020 12:47 pm 8
In spite of it all, I think we owe it to him to keep him out of jail. I hope he’s not naive enough to be making deals.
Ostei Kozelskii #221179 December 14, 2020 1:24 pm 6
The Power Structure may allow Trump to run; it will not allow him to win.
Higgs Boson #221015 December 14, 2020 10:10 am 29
All legal avenues must be exhausted to establish the fact that there is no longer any law. This is where we begin.
BTP #221041 December 14, 2020 10:22 am 17
I do think that is the utility of all this courting process. I doubt Trump has the stones to do that thing that he should do, but demonstrating how far within the normal bounds of law he has gone makes what is essentially our point for us.When you hear some person say they would die for Trump, what you should hear them trying to say is that they would kill to stop the sadistic overlords who rule us. I think all the Q-Anon-ing and the rest of the conspiracy theories are how people cope with a nation moving from order to chaos. Trump has always been a symptom, never the cure. He will probably go away quietly in January, and what comes after will be much worse for everyone.
Federalist #221089 December 14, 2020 11:19 am 25
I interact with a group of conservative/CivNat types.They had total faith in the system. Trump was the savior who was going to win in a landslide. The election fraud shook their faith in the system but then they latched on to Amy Coney Barrett and the gang setting everything right. Now that they can’t deny that the lawsuits have failed, they’re finally giving up on the system completely.People who were all about “voting GOP to save the Republic from socialism” now are saying they’ll never vote again.
Evil Sandmich #221174 December 14, 2020 12:55 pm 22
He did win in a landslide, that’s the thing isn’t it? It’s hard to point to any future elections when it’s obvious that even a blow-out victory will be negated.
My Comment #221297 December 14, 2020 7:39 pm 4
The Civ/Nats I know now dream of a third party led by Trump that will combine dissidents on the right and left. They can’t acknowledge that the widespread voter fraud that has been sanctioned by the courts will render a third party impossible.
Vizzini #221236 December 14, 2020 3:15 pm 2
Why? To kill time? All the “legal avenues” and “peaceful options” read like Underpants Gnome plans.
Higgs Boson #221245 December 14, 2020 3:34 pm 0
What are Underpants Gnome plans? Is kevlar involved?
Vizzini #221294 December 14, 2020 6:57 pm 2
Old South Park reference.
Higgs Boson #221317 December 14, 2020 11:16 pm 1
Thanks, no tv. I tossed it when Obama became president.
Festus #221328 December 15, 2020 7:58 am 4
“In the case they do not succeed, it makes Trump more of a martyr of a broken system, which will help his possible run in 2024.”Why does this insane post have 23 up-votes? If Trump can’t fight the corruption and hold onto his current Presidency in what world does he have a chance in 2024 when he’s out?If this stolen election is allowed to stand, there is no next time where we have a chance of winning at the ballet box. Ever. Even with Trump.I see so many on the dissident boards talking about “we’ll get’em next time!”. Those people are nuts. Do they doubt the steal is real?All of our future efforts should be dedicated to sowing distrust among the NPCs, tormenting bureaucrats, and generally throwing monkey wrenches into the machines workings. Go steal a copy of Rules for Radicals ffs. Bring it all down. Secession works too btw. Anything but what we currently have.Is it going to to take watching big Ag sell all of our food to China while our children starve for you to get the picture? All while the media lies about it? Guess not. We’ll get’em next time!I think seeing so many of my fellow dissidents have hope in a 2024 election is the most black-pilling thing I’ve seen since the election itself.
Ostei Kozelskii #221073 December 14, 2020 10:50 am 23
More interesting than the distrust, at least with record to Kovid, is the trust. Why, despite overwhelming evidence that the danger of Kovid is wildly overblown, do people continue cringing and cowering as if it was 1370 and the Black Death was raging? Why, despite the obvious fact that Karen Kloths are an ineffective defense against a largely illusory threat, do the masses continue with the mask masquerade?I believe the chief reason is that people fear the notion that the Power Structure cannot be trusted. They want desperately to believe the present is just like the old days when one could, more or less, trust what the government, media and medical establishment said. Foregoing that trust means, among other things, that people are forced to rely upon their own good sense and intellectual candlepower to make sense of the world, and not many people have the confidence to do so. It also means we are living in a deranged society where reality is up for grabs and the Power Structure is, to a significant degree, evil. That means abandoning the idea that America is still the good ol’ US of A. And most people, unfortunately, are as yet unwilling to give up on the American dream, which is now merely an insipid fantasy.
Falcone #221093 December 14, 2020 11:22 am 4
Around by me, it’s mostly immigrants who are buying into the Kovid These people trust the government, being more or less part of it Struck me as pretty funny that at the outset it was all the Mexicans who otherwise don’t mind breaking every law in the book who were the ones so diligent and compliant with St Kovid mask orders
abprosper #221202 December 14, 2020 2:23 pm 3
A friend of mine told me that he ran into a federal attorney at a bank after the mask BS started and was chatting with him. The Fed said rather ruefully “This is nuts, I’ve put people in prison for less than this.”Truth is wearing mask makes them feel like a bandit or outlaw. Its fun and legal for a change.Put on scarf and a ballcap and viola, Watchdogs chic. Same for some nerds.What is interesting is few Black Hispanic or Whites are willing to take the vaccine.They suspect its not safe and the medical people taking it now censorship or not will let everyone know. Docs and Nurses aren’t robots and if they or colleagues start getting sick, the info will spread.
sentry #221279 December 14, 2020 4:59 pm 0
What is interesting is few Black Hispanic or Whites are willing to take the vaccine.when you’re dependent on welfare you don’t get a choice
abprosper #221290 December 14, 2020 6:47 pm 1
They always have a choice. Riots work.FWIW I’m seeing alot of the vaccine is safe agitprop on YouTube which tell me few people trust this which is a good think and is going to make 2021 more interesting than it already is. Ugh.
OrangeFrog #221101 December 14, 2020 11:27 am 6
I believe the chief reason is that people fear the notion that the Power Structure cannot be trusted. I think this is pretty accurate, after all, being paranoid and not trusting most authority figures is tiring and frustrating. It does actually takea lotof mental energy to be skeptical about stuff. It’s hard.
jimmy #221173 December 14, 2020 12:53 pm 1
Stockholm syndromeStockholm syndrome is a condition in which hostages develop a psychological alliance with their captors during captivity. Emotional bonds may be formed between captors and captives, during intimate time together, but these are generally considered irrational in light of the danger or risk endured by the victims.Wikipedia
Severian #221119 December 14, 2020 11:44 am 7
Exactly right. It’s fascinating now, seeing those old shows from the 1990s like the X-Files. Back then, we thought they represented a popular fear of a too-powerful government. From 2020 they look like wish fulfillment fantasies – we can only dream of a government competent enough to hide space aliens. Nowadays they can’t even plausibly rig an election, or even not get caught flagrantly breaking their own stupid mask rules.
Falcone #221182 December 14, 2020 1:37 pm 2
I know. And the novel “1984” was supposed to be cautionary tale not an instruction manual
Judge Smails #221219 December 14, 2020 2:52 pm 1
I remember being taught the book in high school in the early 80’s. It was probably predictive programming.
KGB #221209 December 14, 2020 2:34 pm 0
A twit like Eric Swalwell isn’t even competent enough to play hide-the-salami. With a whore.
Severian #221268 December 14, 2020 4:12 pm 2
To be fair to Honey Pot, I think she’s got the wrong equipment for “me love you long time” to work on Swalwell. Dude looks gayer than a tangerine in jean shorts to me.
tarstarkas #221137 December 14, 2020 12:10 pm 3
“They want desperately to believe the present is just like the old days when one could, more or less, trust what the government, media and medical establishment said.”When exactly was this? If the media was ever trustworthy, it was at least a hundred years ago and probably a lot longer. Remember the Western press covered up all the crimes in the early days of the Soviet Union. We are just lucky enough to be living during a time that the public is losing the trust we never should have had in them in the first place. They have always been the lying press.
Ostei Kozelskii #221300 December 14, 2020 8:33 pm 0
No way in hell the media was as mendacious as it is now.
Dutch #221145 December 14, 2020 12:20 pm 2
Believing in the Coof is partly a grasp at some sort of normalcy, and of continuing to want to depend on leadership as being good and competent. But there is a peer element to it as well. If one’s peers are all up in the Coof thing, then joining in the Coof party is just really easy to do. People always under estimate two things. One is the power of joining their crowd of peers, and two is how important it is to keep up with the Joneses.
OrangeFrog #220987 December 14, 2020 9:52 am 22
Why a retired computer executive thinks he is an expert on pandemics is a mystery, but a bigger mystery is why he thinks the world at large trusts his judgement and advice on this issue Gates most probably just relishes bossing people about. With all that cash and all that clout, he could attempt to remake the world in his vision. Perhaps as a way to get revenge for all the times he was stuff into lockers at high school. Popular psychology of course, but probably on the money.
Falcone #221003 December 14, 2020 10:04 am 8
You had some nice rhyming going on to start! introduce the word “lout” and we got ourselves a decent little ditty 😁
Montefrío #221105 December 14, 2020 11:29 am 4
Popular psychology is “popular” because it often expresses what is known and requires no explanation, so yes, there is almost certainly a component of the stuffee’s personality that is resentful and vindictive. They didn’t call it “revenge of the nerds” for nothing. The USA now has an entire bureaucratic, media and academic class composed nearly exclusively of nerds, male and female both. When forced to deal with them personally, one must be careful not to remind them that outside the building, their nerd status will reassert itself and their repressed shame will come to the fore once more.On the money and everbody, Gates included, knows it.
Gunner Q #221107 December 14, 2020 11:29 am 12
Gates has an inferiority complex paired with too much money. He has the power to make the world obey and the insecurity to need to prove it… constantly. If the Proud Boys walked into his mansion and gave him a swirly in his own, gold-plated toilet, he’d probably go insane.
Wolf Barney #220983 December 14, 2020 9:48 am 21
In a way, it’s a relief to have the hysterics and shrieking of Orange Man Bad in the rear view mirror. Now we get to watch Biden/Kamala and CNN and the rest of the idiots in the media deal with the coming housing bubble bursting and the economic mess from the pandemic, along with the increasing amount of pissed off normies shaken into reality dealing with the coming antiwhite policies.
ProZNoV #221018 December 14, 2020 10:10 am 16
All current events bad news is blamed on the previous President, all current good news is explained by the current President. Doubly so with a Democrat in office. With the US press corps, it has always been thus. Worse now as the press is monolithic and journalism is dead.
usNthem #221281 December 14, 2020 5:05 pm 2
Yeah, it’s hard to imagine joe and da ho getting the blame for anything bad that happens under their watch. He could nuke Iran and it’d be Trump’s fault one way or another.
TomA #221090 December 14, 2020 11:20 am 14
Watching the news of any sort is brain poison and should be avoided at all costs. And that’s not escapism or avoidance; it’s mental health preservation. The “news” will only make you angry and confused. It’s debilitating, not educating. Your goal now is to get stronger and smarter, not stupider with ulcers.
Ben the Layabout #221482 December 15, 2020 3:02 pm 0
Don’t underestimate the fireworks that are going to ensue within the Democrats themselves. In curious contrast to Trump when he came in as an outsider who was co-opted by the establishment swamp, Biden is career swamp and so to speak he made a deal with the Devil with the progressive Radical Democrats who may not be easily placated
sentry #220984 December 14, 2020 9:48 am 17
“What happens when those mortgage forbearance plans expire? Delinquency rates remain atlevelsyou see in a severe economic crisis. How about thoselate rent payments?  Those problems are not getting better withjobless claims going up.”unfixable, you need to get rid of non whites to resolve these issues, which won’t happen.what will happen is us turns into brazil, europe turns into middle east.
usNthem #220995 December 14, 2020 9:59 am 7
I imagine all these rent/mortgage forebearance proclamations will be extended, of course causing more landlords to go under. The fed will just keep throwing $$ at the mess until it all implodes, which should happen soon enough. Real change will start happening then and the cloud people ain’t gonna like it.
Durendal #221013 December 14, 2020 10:09 am 7
The financial collapse looming will happen slowly then all at once.
Falcone #221051 December 14, 2020 10:29 am 11
Always does Why we need to implore people on our side to hunker down, get their finances in order, bat the hatches, and be ready to weather the coming storm Wasting time and energy on GOP politics won’t save them for what’s coming
ABCer #221120 December 14, 2020 11:45 am 2
True, but _____ happens slow then all at once.You can fill in the blanks for everything since 1989.!
Educated.redneck #221231 December 14, 2020 3:09 pm 2
The rental thing is Chinese-proverb “interesting”, as it has the potential to turn every urban area into Detroit: if the landlords go belly up, all their properties will become unmaintained slums. Perversly, I bet Section 8 housing keeps booming, as the gibs get paid even when the working man is living in his car. Our cities will be no-go zones that make Fallujah look like Mayberry.
The Wild Geese Howard #221029 December 14, 2020 10:15 am 8
YTs will immediately be evicted en masse. BIPOCs get to squat forever. Cornell’s new flu jab policy is paving the way for this.
Alzaebo #221067 December 14, 2020 10:40 am 12
Good God. In Ireland, the Irish native-born are “sleeping rough” (homeless) while Africans fresh off the NGO passenger boat are given fully-appointed apartments and houses. The vax… the vax will be the excuse.
TomA #221094 December 14, 2020 11:22 am 5
The only White Pill to be gleaned from current events is that the crash and burn catharsis will now happen sooner rather the later, which means the bottom will be higher and less damage will be done on the way down.
ABCer #221117 December 14, 2020 11:43 am 4
Our ruin isn’t a bug, it is the core feature around which all the other features are utterly contingent, such as elite survival, along with power, money, perks. They’re fighting for our lives.They know they’re in a battle for survival, we just noticed our vote doesn’t count. But yet our people are moving so matters are greatly improved.
sentry #221146 December 14, 2020 12:22 pm 2
Our ruin isn’t a bug, it is the core feature around which all the other features are utterly contingent, such as elite survival, along with power, money, perks.i wouldn’t count on that, israelites have prospered in middle eastern countries before, they especially love it when miscegenation takes place, it weakens the host country, which results in secular jews returning to their rabbis. Also, south americans aren’t a real threat to them.israelites usually offer gifts and promise riches to rulers in exchange for tax collection rights, not to mention israelites can also sell white slaves to whoever offers them money, the more christian the better, they’ll get boners from it. Which non whites are gonna say no to that?
Wolf Barney #221141 December 14, 2020 12:18 pm 4
This is an interesting blog with a lively comment section I’ve been reading off and on since before the last housing bubble popped. These guys predicted it then, and they’re now saying disaster is near.http://housingbubble.blog/
sentry #221149 December 14, 2020 12:27 pm 0
i think it was september last year when I first became informed of a new economic crisis starting at the end of this year.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pB8dfg4iSII
Educated.redneck #221234 December 14, 2020 3:13 pm 1
Really? I read on zerohedge that the collapse happened in May 2020. Also November 2019, and July 2019, October 2018, etc. I’ll believe it when I see it.
sentry #221258 December 14, 2020 3:58 pm 2
that was not my prediction, don’t want economic collapse to happen, it’s not as if globalists will go away if they ruin economy.truth be told soviets were just fine after they starved the ukrainians to death, globalists won’t be removed if economic collapse happens.
Maixiu #221277 December 14, 2020 4:53 pm 0
It reminds me of Gordon Chang, who has enriched himself for a couple decades on predicting the collapse of the CCP. He still gets trotted out as the stock China detractor on cable news.
The Wild Geese Howard #221006 December 14, 2020 10:07 am 16
I’m at a point where I just assume everything is some kind of op. All the way down.
B125 #221037 December 14, 2020 10:18 am 12
Same. If I can’t see it with my 2 eyes then I assume it’s false. And I’m high iq lol. Not a great sign for the state of the empire.
Falcone #221049 December 14, 2020 10:27 am 13
Why having pets is a key to retaining one’s sanity All of our human drama means little to them as they just keep being cute and hungry and help me, at least, keep perspective
OrangeFrog #221060 December 14, 2020 10:32 am 7
You’re not wrong, in a way. There are just so many grifters in key positions these days, each working his own angle that you can be damn sure you won’t benefit.Every day I see this in the micro-realm: dealing with project managers who just blow hot air, needless HR paper shufflers, overly unionized workers. And this is in my industry. There is no reason to think this doesn’t carry over to The Pentagon, The FBI, SIS, GCHQ, Washington or wherever you fancy.It may not be an ‘op’ but it sure as hell isn’t working for our benefit. But we knew this already. Still, it is always bad when we think that society is everywhere and at all times on the take.
Guest #221129 December 14, 2020 12:05 pm 15
I’m far more tolerant of conservative civnats than most people here, but Kurt Schlicter’s column today is beyond insufferable. The tldr is: get used to Biden; secession is bad; conservatives need to “get fighting for the Constitution, using its provisions twice as hard” (that’s a direct quote); buy my books. https://townhall.com/columnists/kurtschlichter/2020/12/14/could-secession-succeed-n2581466? The good news is that these guys are not fooling people anymore. Approximately 50% of the comments are calling him out as a fool. Millions of Americans are putting their toes in the water.
Jack Dobson #221190 December 14, 2020 2:03 pm 4
Cuckservatism is dead as a dodo, to use another bird reference. Buffoons such as Schlicter think if they Ghost Dance really, really hard, the police state will disappear and we’ll be run by regular James Madisons. The fucking idiot probably will support Biden’s regularly planned wars for our Greatest Ally. The jackass will learn in short order how much people have grown to hate the New Evil Empire.
Drake #221197 December 14, 2020 2:16 pm 3
This election was a the world’s biggest red-pill event.
abprosper #221206 December 14, 2020 2:28 pm 2
Kurt is comfortable and while he Right Wing enough to mouth off, no way is he going to rock the gravy boat.Until proven otherwise, all hat no cattle.To be more generous he’s seen urban warfare and knows how bad it can get so I can’t entirely blame him.
TomA #221088 December 14, 2020 11:12 am 15
The sane are deeply and justifiably angry, so go out into the woods and scream for a while to vent. Then calm down and get to work. Your job now is to survive the madness. If you live in a city, move to a rural area or small town. Learn to be self sufficient as much as practicable. Become innocuous and invisible by appearing boring and predictable in routines. Inside your mind, become hyper-aware and think creativity. Become fit and able and play out potential scenarios in your head. Think of yourself as an antibody in waiting.
Falcone #221095 December 14, 2020 11:24 am 8
Computer and electronics in general are making people crazy Walk into a Best Buy with all of that competing electricity and you can feel the brain begin to soften Staring at a computer all day with electricity being jammed back into your brain can’t be good Getting oneself back to nature is a definite solution to the madness
Dinothedoxie #221034 December 14, 2020 10:18 am 15
The whole country has gone mad. It seams everyone is delusion sally detached from reality. Perhaps that’s the real legacy ofthe information revolution,everyone lives in their own virtual reality – shaped by their imagination regardless of reality. Not sure how well it will work when people’s personal VR bubbles intersect.
Peabody #221085 December 14, 2020 11:08 am 3
It’s funny to come across this comment as more and more I’ve been wondering if there’s something to the idea of solipsism. But that’s most likely just the side effect of being gaslit 24/7.
DVDC #221472 December 15, 2020 2:18 pm 0
See Neal Stephenson’s “Fall: or Dodge in Hell” for a novel take on this.
Higgs Boson #220977 December 14, 2020 9:44 am 14
The cloud people luxuriating in the atmosphere inside their Overton bubble haven’t noticed the bees from the hive below skating on their rainbows. A spoonful of sugar helps the anarchy go down.
Severian #221023 December 14, 2020 10:11 am 13
Dear Penthouse: I never thought this would happen to me, but I kinda miss the Clinton years. Give me a grifter over a cultist every time. When Billy lied to you, at least you knew he was getting something out of it (if only the weird sexual thrill he obviously got from knowing that you knew he was lying). The Media, meanwhile, were straight up about lying for the Cause – cf. that bint who proclaimed on national tv that she’d be happy to service Clinton “for keeping abortion legal.” Media people these days are Red Guards — they really *believe* this stuff, and they’ll keep believing, even when tomorrow’s Official Lies directly contradict the Official Lies they themselves “reported” today. It’s lunacy.
Lanky #221027 December 14, 2020 10:14 am 2
Shadow of the torturer?
Severian #221055 December 14, 2020 10:31 am 5
Yeah, but I needed an internet handle decades ago and that was the first book I saw on my shelf. No deep significance, except that I was dumb enough to do a sci-fi thingon the Internetwithout thinking through the implications. Tells you everything you need to know about my judgment.
Alzaebo #221124 December 14, 2020 11:53 am 0
(Shhh. Yes, and he regrets it. The analeptic alzabo thinks it’s an excellent choice. The beast believes our esteemed adept would prove most creative in his approach to managing aristocratic clients.)
KGB #221071 December 14, 2020 10:44 am 12
Meh. The Clintons were more than mere grifters; they were pretty damn insidious when you get down to it.
DLS #221108 December 14, 2020 11:29 am 6
Sociopaths
Severian #221131 December 14, 2020 12:05 pm 7
All true, but at least they weren’t insane. Either one of them would’ve outlawed abortion in a hot second if you paid them enough. A lot of these lunatics these days are True Believers. To paraphrase Chesteron, or CS Lewis, or whoever it was – there’s always a chance you can buy off a grifter or a gangster, but you can never be free of a True Believer (well, there’s ONE way…)
DLS #221167 December 14, 2020 12:46 pm 10
“Of all tyrannies, a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victim may be the most oppressive. It may be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron’s cruelty may sometimes sleep, his cupidity may at some point be satiated, but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end for they do so with the approval of their own conscience.”-C.S. Lewis
Valley Lurker #221272 December 14, 2020 4:23 pm 1
I think of this every time I see that gigantic hoss “health minister” from Belgium.
Stranger in a strange land #221132 December 14, 2020 12:06 pm 3
If not psychopaths.
ABCer #221160 December 14, 2020 12:40 pm 4
Reinventing govt gave us govt by contracting. Bill realized Bioleninists couldn’t get any services delivered, so our actual govt services are long contracted out. This created the actual Toll House Super Zips Corporatist shadow govt which is what we are facing.You may add to the precious benefits – war logistics, wars dirty work, Intelligence SIGINT and HUMINT.Surely you can’t see Evan mcMullian in a gunfight, for instance?Bill also let his crew be the money launderers for the Rape of Russia, and we see same characters usually small hats in the various Ukraine Dramas.This also is where any actual muscle could come from – in theory at least.
G Lordon Giddy #221126 December 14, 2020 11:55 am 3
Clinton was a likable guy from Arkansas.He got his kicks in Hot Springs whore houses as a kid.A good ole boy that was nice to your face but would screw you in a New York second. He opposed LBJ but Clinton was a lot like him.Now we just got aliens ruling us who make no effort to cover up their corruption.
RoBG #221270 December 14, 2020 4:19 pm 1
When BillyJeff was Gov he turned a blind eye to the Iran-Contra drugs/arms smuggling operation out of Mena, AK. (He later called GHWB “Dad.”)
ProZNoV #220992 December 14, 2020 9:57 am 13
In Re: QAnon. I’ve never seen a clearer real life case study of the book “When Prophecy Fails” -L Festinger than otherwise sane conservatives “Trusting the Plan” and “The Storm is Coming”. It’s literally crazy. Also: Increasingly obvious people “listen” to Gates because he’s RICH (and generous), not because he’s SMART. He is smart (in a narrow area), but who wouldn’t “listen” to a intellectual gadfly who also is willing to write huge checks to your organization if properly flattered?
Citizen of a Silly Country #221002 December 14, 2020 10:04 am 14
Back in the 1980s and 1990s, Gates fought both Washington and the media because he felt like everyone should stay out of his business. Therefore, he was disliked by Washington and the media. But then Gates discovered that showering both groups with money via charities, political donations, jobs, speaking fees, etc., made you wildly popular. It also allowed you a power and influence well beyond the computer industry.
OrangeFrog #221021 December 14, 2020 10:11 am 4
No worries. After Gates’ time has come, his legacy will be felt in the form of mandatory, poorly timed updates to your Windows OS. The man truly is evil.
Forever Templar #221047 December 14, 2020 10:26 am 5
Not a Windows 10 user, are you? Don’t blame you. Balmer gets a lot of flack for his time at the helm, but damn did things really obviously go downhill after he left.
OrangeFrog #221134 December 14, 2020 12:08 pm 1
My day consists of booting up Windows 10. Then SSH ‘ing into Linux VMs. But of course, all companies love MS, so we have to put up with their stuff. Didn’t mind the Office suite though, back when I used to be a VBA whizz. Nifty tool set. Now it’s mega bloat.
RoBG #221257 December 14, 2020 3:58 pm 0
Every single time Microsoft updates its OS (also Office) it’s a major headache and loss of productivity for Businesses that use the software.
ABCer #221166 December 14, 2020 12:45 pm 1
Gates has been funding research into Viruses including in Wuhan for years. That explains his panic, his fear is palpably true.
The Wild Geese Howard #221062 December 14, 2020 10:34 am 12
Latest op: Sky Australia reporting a leak of a database with info on 2 million CCP members: https://www.skynews.com.au/details/_6215946537001 Supposedly there are anywhere from 52k to 380k US phone numbers in the list. Researchers have already ID’d people in Big Pharma and the UK govt.
ProZNoV #221086 December 14, 2020 11:10 am 8
“Discrimination against political views and race is illegal”…said 99% of Americans who know nothing about CCP membership. I’ll give this to the CCP…when they rule the world (if they don’t already), it’s going to be because they earned it. 2 million plants worldwide! I doubt the US has more than a couple thousand fluent US loyalist Chinese speakers on the payroll.
KGB #221140 December 14, 2020 12:17 pm 9
The unexplored point is that it would be easy to use fluent Mandarin speakers to fool the Chinese. No Chinese ever expects awaiguorento speak their tongue. I speak decent Chinese and the reactions I get are almost comical. Once during open swim at the local college, two Chinese students had to use the lanes on either side of me. As I was taking a break, they were talking loudly over my head. I turned to one and asked her in Chinese if she’d like to change lanes. She then shouted to her friend, as if I wasn’t there at all, “this person just spoke Chinese to me.” And she said this in Chinese, as if I hadn’t just demonstrated that I would understand what she was saying. That’s not an atypical reaction.If we could train a few hundred infiltrators to speak fluently but act like the aw-shucks, “they’re treating me like a king!” business types, they could probably glean a shit ton of information.
ABCer #221155 December 14, 2020 12:34 pm 4
It is not the fault of China we elected cowards and traitors.
abprosper #221199 December 14, 2020 2:17 pm 9
I’m not remotely angry at China for doing what is in their best interest.Its our greedy treasonous elite that deserve our hate not Chinese who are behaving in a patriotic manner to their own nation.They all need to be sent back buts just business nothing personal.
abprosper #221196 December 14, 2020 2:15 pm 2
Its already out in English if you want it. There are around 56K American members on the list apparently.
Dindu Nuffin State #221230 December 14, 2020 3:08 pm 0
Where is the English list?The first one was in Mandarin.
abprosper #221266 December 14, 2020 4:12 pm 0
I apologize as it seems I was in error. the list of US nationals hasn’t been translated as yet or isn’t out.
ProZNoV #221271 December 14, 2020 4:22 pm 1
I do wonder if US Fortune 500 companies will even look at the list and do a little double checking against their hiring roles. Probably not. The biggest companies in the US are by far the most “woke”.
abprosper #221289 December 14, 2020 6:46 pm 0
This creates liability also so probably not.
Falcone #221097 December 14, 2020 11:25 am 2
and none of us on this side of the divide are at all surprised
The Wild Geese Howard #221057 December 14, 2020 10:32 am 12
A small town in Wyoming sheriff arrested an anti-mask protester for creating a verbal disturbance by telling the mayor to, “eff off”: https://wyo4news.com/news/one-arrested-for-verbal-disturbance-during-protest-against-the-mask-mandate/ RIP First Amendment, RIP Bill of Rights.
Liberty Mike #221133 December 14, 2020 12:07 pm 10
It is yet further evidence that, writ large, cops are not your friends.
Dutch #221150 December 14, 2020 12:28 pm 6
And yet, here in SoCal, multiple local small business communities are staying open and nothing is being done to them. The lesson is, cooperation and unity of purpose within a community is a force multiplier.
Liberty Mike #221228 December 14, 2020 3:07 pm 3
What was done for those SoCal small businesses that were the targets of the burners, looters, and murderers? How about the SoCal restaurants that choose to fully open? How about those SoCal movie theatres that choose to run films on all 18 screens and declare its patrons need not don a face-diaper?
Dutch #221283 December 14, 2020 5:19 pm 2
Liberty Mike, it’s a real mixed bag. The only thing that has worked so far (in Carlsbad, Oceanside, and Temecula), is that an entire neighborhood small business community decides to stay open. Emphasis on “so far”. The random restaurant or gym, the authorities take them down. I’ll be checking out Chula Vista in person tomorrow. I’m hearing rumors that everything is quietly open down there, too.
Judge Smails #221220 December 14, 2020 2:55 pm 2
Small town Wyoming – so much for a “red state” being refuge from the insanity.
Citizen of a Silly Country #221009 December 14, 2020 10:08 am 11
The Hogan video is pretty funny. Quite the word salad with lots diversity thrown in for good measure. I forget how clueless these people are. If he (and his handlers) think that message is going to work going forward, I suspect that they’re in for a nasty surprise. Boycotting people like Hogan would be a very effective tool. The GOP needs to die to help wake up CivNat Whites. They’ll see that no matter how badly the GOP does in elections, it won’t acknowledge them or take up their issues.
Chet Rollins #221050 December 14, 2020 10:27 am 6
Notice the Hogan video has comments disabled. Worse, it has the thumbs up/down ratio disabled. Kind of says it all. If anything, the video will have the opposite of the intended effect.Sounds like another grifter Lincoln Project-esque organization burning dumb millionaires money.Good.
RoBG #221269 December 14, 2020 4:13 pm 2
When comments are disabled on a site that hasn’t blanket-eliminated them, you know they were going against the preferred narrative.
BTP #221052 December 14, 2020 10:29 am 9
Hogan thinks that, because he managed to win as a Republican in Maryland, his career arc is a viable template for the future. See, Reagan won 49 states, so… Everyone is working on a fantasy these days. The only people telling the truth are those who point out nobody is coming to save you. And half the people who post those memes don’t really believe in, either.
Jack Dobson #220980 December 14, 2020 9:45 am 10
Why a retired computer executive thinks he is an expert on pandemics is a mystery, but a bigger mystery is why he thinks the world at large trusts his judgement and advice on this issue.Madame Ceausescu claimed to be a doctor, as does Jill Biden. The former was illiterate, and the latter doesn’t seem ready to attend a MENSA meeting in any capacity other as an invited celebrity guest speaker. Gates would do well to recall the fate of Madame Ceausescu as he cozies up to Dr. Biden. Dr. Ceausescu had much more power and protection than Gates ever will.The economic reality is there likely will be a catastrophic collapse after the forbearance on federally backed mortgages ends January 1, 2022. Yes, 2022. They know what is coming. Gates would be wise to spend tons of his fortune on buying up any memorialization of his role in the Covid response. New Zealand property ain’t gonna prove much of an escape in the end.
Marko #220999 December 14, 2020 10:02 am 17
There’s no mystery. Get out of the dissident-right bubble and the sad fact is most people don’t see grandfatherly Bill Gates and “Dr.” Jill Biden as being bad people. Same for Fauci. Those on this side of the great divide are cursed with hateful cynicism and most people just want to goddamn grill.
The Wild Geese Howard #221019 December 14, 2020 10:11 am 4
Mask up, vax up!
Marko #221185 December 14, 2020 1:53 pm 4
#vaxtheblacks
Wackadoo #221285 December 14, 2020 5:31 pm 2
That’s a great one!
c matt #221192 December 14, 2020 2:07 pm 12
Pull a Brad Pitt and refuse to vax until every POC and “front-line” worker in the world has had the full complement of boosters. Yes, I am that selfless you bastards!
pozymandias #221307 December 14, 2020 9:43 pm 1
I’m willing to let each fat dancing nurse have three doses each. You know, they have that extra body mass so they probably need a higher dose.
Higgs Boson #221318 December 14, 2020 11:19 pm 1
Wait until they blame their infertility on the vaccine instead of their lifestyle. The rants will be endless.
Angarrack #221063 December 14, 2020 10:35 am 9
Aren’t these people pushed forward by a sytem which destroys you if you speak outside a narrow corridor of talking points?The average person is aware of this and I doubt they have any great affection for the people who are associated with this arrangement. I think you underestimate the sheer amount of effort that the average person expends editing themselves to conform to the pack.Normal people are extremely cynical in that they have no values other than repeat the majority view and don’t be incorrectly conspicuous. Fear and dishonesty maintain the status quo.The “romantics” are the dissidents who step outside the pack morality despite the inevitable costs.
Alzaebo #221039 December 14, 2020 10:21 am 2
“…there likely will be a catastrophic collapse after the forbearance on federally backed mortgages ends January 1, 2022.” I don’t know what ‘forbearance’ is, could somebody briefly explain what this means, or means to us, please? What’ll happen?
Falcone #221058 December 14, 2020 10:32 am 4
forbearance = don’t have to pay your mortgage
ProZNoV #221079 December 14, 2020 10:57 am 7
But the interest payments still accrue. Must look after the poor banks, you see.
Falcone #221109 December 14, 2020 11:31 am 2
no doubt, it’s not like the payments go away, just moved to a later date
Paintersforms #221172 December 14, 2020 12:52 pm 0
I take it you don’t have student loans or you consolidated them 🙂
Forever Templar #221042 December 14, 2020 10:22 am 6
The fate of the Ceausescus, as in they were all shot? LOL, get that thought out of your head, that’s just pure comeuppance delusional fantasy. Won’t happen.The Gates’ of the world today simply don’t exist in the realms of existence where anyone who has ready access to them will harm them, let alone any of common stock.In fact, given today’s conditions, be careful throwing around such flippancy.
The Wild Geese Howard #221066 December 14, 2020 10:37 am 5
Gates and his ilk have extremely well-paid, extremely comptent 24/7/365 Security teams. Heck, I bet the lowest paid guys on Gates’ team are worth 7 figures.
Judge Smails #221087 December 14, 2020 11:12 am 11
All of his security are ex-Special Ops and alphabet agency traitors who took their 30 pieces of silver to sell out the United States and the CivNats that worship them as heroes.
Rwc1963 #221156 December 14, 2020 12:36 pm 11
No one should worship these professional killers because like attack dogs they can be turned against us and have been – like at Waco and NOLA where they confiscated guns from gun owners at gun point.
Federalist #221099 December 14, 2020 11:26 am 15
The fate of the Ceausescus, as in they were all shot?The Gates’ of the world today simply don’t exist in the realms of existence where anyone who has ready access to them will harm them, let alone any of common stock. The same was true for Ceaușescu until it wasn’t.
B125 #221125 December 14, 2020 11:55 am 8
What happens when that 7 figure salary becomes just a stack of paper and a can of beans is a valuable commodity?
Sand Wasp #221255 December 14, 2020 3:54 pm 5
What happens when that 7 figure salary becomes just a stack of paper and a can of beans is a valuable commodity? That is a cope, our rulers aren’t dumb. The mercenaries will always be taken care of.
sentry #221178 December 14, 2020 1:14 pm 0
The same was true for Ceaușescu until it wasn’t.you mean the foreign funded revolution?are the israelites gonna organize revolution against themselves?
Jack Dobson #221193 December 14, 2020 2:10 pm 2
You beat me to it. Gates doesn’t have near the protection the Ceausescu’s did.
Rwc1963 #221142 December 14, 2020 12:20 pm 4
Anyone can be gotten to if one is willing to devote the resources to it.For the longest time Gates flew first class on common carriers. Because outside of the tech world he is a non-entity to everyone else.He even did his own shopping at the local store as well.Even if he now protected by a bunch of juiced up goons like Zucky has. They only work in a stable intact society.where folks aren’t actively gunning for ya.
Evil Sandmich #221176 December 14, 2020 12:59 pm 4
Karl Denninger pointed this out: only a national government has the money and resources necessary for a presidential level protection. Everyone else’s security detail is some level of compromise that depends on operating within an intact society.
Vizzini #221238 December 14, 2020 3:20 pm 1
Even the President is completely vulnerable. All it takes is a willingness to die along with him.
Sand Wasp #221256 December 14, 2020 3:56 pm 1
Yeah, I remember when someone used a telephoto lens to photograph Zuckerberg picking up his own dogs crap in an outdoor stroll. If instead of a telephoto lens fixed on Zuck, it was a scope….
Jack Dobson #221204 December 14, 2020 2:27 pm 5
The day before the Ceacescus achieved room temperature, they were convinced they also were untouchable. They also had more reason. It came from inside, too. It always comes from inside. The only fantasy is invincibility.
Vizzini #221237 December 14, 2020 3:18 pm 1
Everyone is vulnerable. Everyone.
pozymandias #221310 December 14, 2020 9:57 pm 1
Consumer demand is likely to suffer huge blows soon as government aid for mortgages and student loans ends and the economy remains crippled by rolling lockdowns and just the fear of political instability. What demand remains may be funneled into, shall we say, “unusual” avenues. Thinking of getting that 84″ 4K TV back in March? Now it’s likely to be an AR-15 and a cache of emergency supplies. This is a setup for classic deflation and depression.
Lanky #221017 December 14, 2020 10:10 am 9
Start passing out pamphlets that address specific chinks (()) in the globalist armor. The vaccine is a good place to start. Even the news networks can’t spin injecting this gene-altering, rabbinical precum as a prudent health decision — let alone with exactly zero longitudinal studies. Start there. “I’m not anti-vax, but clearly this is something different. Just because they’re not forcing us to take it today doesn’t mean they won’t try to force us to tomorrow. When that day comes, it’d be best if we all knew each other and had a plan.”
KGB #221070 December 14, 2020 10:42 am 14
I just started working the Post-It note angle this past weekend. I printed out a sheet of 5160 sized stickers, each one with a short saying, and put them on Post-Its, which I have begun leaving on items in large stores. “It’s OK to be white”, “Masks are juju”, “Happy Xmas (Covid Is Over)” and others. I definitely need to add some vaccine-skeptical phrases. If anyone here has any suggestions, on any topics, please let me know.
DLS #221111 December 14, 2020 11:33 am 5
Well that’s kind of genius. Be careful to not be seen.
KGB #221130 December 14, 2020 12:05 pm 10
Z-Man mentioned he had a friend who did this, that’s where I got the idea.So I keep the note pad in my coat pocket. I peel one off with my hand inside the pocket and palm it with the sticky side facing out. Then I grab an item from the shelf, pretend to read it while casually pressing the note against the back side, before returning it to the shelf. I try to put it behind one or two of the same item so that it won’t sell for a few days/weeks. I also tried to pick items that women would be more likely to buy.
c matt #221207 December 14, 2020 2:29 pm 4
Windows crashes, but trust the vax
KGB #221222 December 14, 2020 3:03 pm 2
That will make the cut. I was also thinking something like “The vaccine makes you a GMO” That should cause some short circuiting.
Dinothedoxie #221319 December 14, 2020 11:57 pm 0
The vax.Just the vax, mam
Alzaebo #221267 December 14, 2020 4:12 pm 1
Wow, thanks. Johnny Appleseed!
Rich #221287 December 14, 2020 5:54 pm 1
“What happened to Brandy Vaughan?”
KGB #221278 December 14, 2020 4:57 pm 5
I was just in a gift shop/stationary store/costume rental place. As I was looking around I noticed there were Kwanzaa cards in the card aisle. I had an “It’s OK to be white” sticker next in the deck and I thought it was tailor made for the Jogger Christmas, but then I had a moment of inspiration and I attached it to a Hanukkah card instead!
Barnard #220989 December 14, 2020 9:53 am 8
Why a retired computer executive thinks he is an expert on pandemics is a mystery, but a bigger mystery is why he thinks the world at large trusts his judgement and advice on this issue.It isn’t uncommon for men who have great success in one area to think they are experts in everything. Gates is far from alone among his peers in that regard. They also trust each other as experts regardless of what the results are as long as it makes them feel good. Jeffrey Sachs is considered one of the most influential economists in the world, Gates has worked closely with him in Africa, Poland is the only country he has worked with that doesn’t hate Sachs for making their country worse and that was 30 years ago.
Dinothedoxie #221024 December 14, 2020 10:13 am 11
Being surrounded with slobbering sycophants hoping to catch a few crumbs from the billionaires table helps too.
Severian #221038 December 14, 2020 10:21 am 14
Also true of anyone who fancies xzhyrzelf a professional intellectual. I spent umpteen years in the ivory tower, and even with all that experience it never ceased to amaze me how the most clueless people carried on. What should our defense posture be in re: fishing rights off the Saskatchewan Reefs? They have never heard of any of those things, but they are metaphysically certain they’re right about whatever they just made up. And the further the “expert” got from a right answer discipline, the more vehemently certain xzhey got. There are no more puissant armchair generals than people who wrote their dissertation on the gendering of adverbs in the Maori-American Poetry of the Later Middle Ages.
Ostei Kozelskii #221260 December 14, 2020 4:01 pm 0
“There are no more puissant armchair generals than people who wrote their dissertation on the gendering of adverbs in the Maori-American Poetry of the Later Middle Ages.” LOL. So very true. And as regards Maori-American poetry of the late middle ages, my personal favorite is “Troilus and the Lexus” by Chinuwi Romney-Dole.
Alzaebo #221078 December 14, 2020 10:55 am 6
Wasn’t Gates’ dad associated with the CIA? Or was he the lawyer for the Rothschild?When Gates was 19, the board of IBM called him to a meeting so he could do a presentation of MS-DOS or Basic (caveat, my memory’s a tad fuzzy.) He had bought DOS/Basic from a college roomate for $70,000.The industry standard was a language called CPM. The guy who invented it decided to go windsurfing instead of making his pitch to keep CPM at the board meet; IBM adopted DOS, and 19 year-old Gates went on to become the richest man in the world.Who knew an electronics nerd had such exquisite knowledge of commercial licensing?
WJ0216 #221152 December 14, 2020 12:29 pm 6
It didn’t hurt Gates that his well connected mother served on the Board of United Way of America with the CEO of IBM.
Gunner Q #221244 December 14, 2020 3:31 pm 3
Coincidence like that make one wonder about that “windsurfing trip”.
Vizzini #221250 December 14, 2020 3:42 pm 0
CP/M. Operating system, not language. They were, initially, very similar. I suspect MS-DOS ripped off a lot of concepts from CP/M. I don’t know if the surfing story is true, but indeed whether to go with one OS or the other was pretty much a toss-up, and fortunes were made and lost on that little decision.
RoBG #221253 December 14, 2020 3:51 pm 1
Also Microsoft licensed its OS, Apple didn’t. Thus the PC took off (especially in terms of 3rd-party software development) while the Mac remained “niche.”
Alzaebo #221262 December 14, 2020 4:04 pm 0
Woops, sorry, I should’ve put “go windsurfing” in quotes. I meant to supply a quality conspiracy theory.
Bilejones #221291 December 14, 2020 6:53 pm 4
See James’ Corbett’s excellent series on Gates. More than you thought was knowable. https://www.corbettreport.com/gates/
Valley Lurker #221254 December 14, 2020 3:54 pm 2
The prime example of this mindset is one even normie can understand and I have used to some effect. Consider the meddling sportsball owner. He made a billion doing xyz, but his ego doesn’t allow him to not override the decisions of his underlings who have dedicated their lives to assembling effective teams, thereby ensuring mediocrity at best and likely consistent failure at worse.Gates track record in various disciplines (I am not an expert on him I admit) lead me to believe he is just another guy like this. The only difference is instead of sportsball its immune systems or poverty or whatever else makes him rock hard and allows him to feel his genius crosses all time and space.
Ostei Kozelskii #221259 December 14, 2020 3:59 pm 0
Lebron James is often consulted on matters of great geopolitical import, wot.
Stranger in a strange land #221308 December 14, 2020 9:53 pm 0
‘bron did read a book one time (or at least he said he did)
Ostei Kozelskii #221419 December 15, 2020 11:26 am 0
“See Ja’Spott Dunk”
bruce charlton #221081 December 14, 2020 10:59 am 7
“it really does not matter what anyone thinks,” In fact the opposite is true. This is a spiritual war: the stakes are damnation with the majority who follow Satan; or to stand apart as an individual (in 2020 the churches are with the majority) and joyfully accept the salvation offered by Jesus. So, the *only* thing that matters – in the long run, which for Christians) is eternity – is “what people think”.
KGB #221143 December 14, 2020 12:20 pm 6
My mom asked me the other day if I was going to go to the Christmas vigil mass at our family parish. “I need to know because you have to make a (Covid) reservation.” I have no use for a church that won’t assert its spiritual duties in the face of temporal pressures.
ABCer #221153 December 14, 2020 12:31 pm 1
The last mass I attended was a Jesuit channeling Bruno every mass from the very altar, making sure everyone knew he and the naturally lisping, clearly somewhat dysgenic (so vulnerable) choir boy were a thing. Flaming and Proud and fsking the choir boy (who may have been “barely legal”.) That’s the real Church.Yes this was recently. No, I won’t be praying for the sinners. Spiritual War 🤣🤣🤣🤣 Lets have the real thing for all the points Alex, and we’re way past Double Jeopardy.
Eric #221180 December 14, 2020 1:32 pm 0
God bless you Mr. Charlton and all the good work you do.
G Lordon Giddy #221069 December 14, 2020 10:41 am 7
Trump walked in and handed his populist agenda over to the GOP funeral directors and insurance salesmen and put his son in law Jared in charge to oversee his appointments. What did they do? Contacted Bill Kristol for advice? Yes, pretty close to the truth.Trump is now paying for not having a team of throat cutters ready to go when he walked into the swamp.What happens now? No, I don’t think Trump is Julius Ceaser. I think we stew and we percolate for awhile and either we bow to liberal democracy or we create our own organizations and separate world as mentioned in the Taki article.Trump ain’t our guy with the sword. He is still coming. I hope.
DLS #221115 December 14, 2020 11:38 am 6
To be fair, I cannot think of a single throat slitter on the right he could have appointed. The left is full of them.
G Lordon Giddy #221121 December 14, 2020 11:46 am 6
Yes, I agree, thus our problem with the current GOP. I have no use for them as they are currently populated at the top.The leadership of the current GOP is worthless.The people who vote GOP on the other hand, many are decent people who do not understand just how worthless their party has represented them over the years.
Stranger in a strange land #221127 December 14, 2020 11:57 am 10
Lot of tough talkers (Trey Gowdy comes to mind), but mostly just leg biters.
Steve #221298 December 14, 2020 7:45 pm 1
I beg to differ, there are plenty of throat-cutters on the right. The problem is is that they only take out the knives and get serious when there is a conservative challenger from within their own ranks. Ask Chris Kobach.
Dutch #221139 December 14, 2020 12:15 pm 12
Trump is a CivNat who is unwilling to go beyond the guardrails. Normie is quickly learning where that gets you.
ABCer #221154 December 14, 2020 12:33 pm 1
THIS.
usNthem #220986 December 14, 2020 9:51 am 7
Well, I wouldn’t say jibbering joe is a lock for inauguration – but I guess we’ll see.. On another note, a fine example of the haves vs the have nots, is worthless, two bit mouth breathing jogger ho cardib asking all her fans if she should buy dat $88,000 dolla purse. Bitch gotta have its bling.
JR Wirth #221158 December 14, 2020 12:37 pm 6
Speaking of rulers and their petty indulgences, I noticed an article a few days ago that said Biden’s people will bring in guys with Hazmat suits to fumigate the Whitehouse after Orange man is gone (for the virus of course). This was a bone to liberals who love the idea of a “cleansing.” Basically a cleaning of the alter of power. For anyone who thinks Trump was the child emperor while the “adults” are coming into the room in January, this article shows that juvenile petulance is the rule now, not the exception. There are no adults in the room, and won’t be until whatever massive crisis hits like a tornado.
Evil Sandmich #221247 December 14, 2020 3:34 pm 2
To be ‘fair’, it’s a bit of projection from what they would do. Remember when Melina had to have Big Mike’s toilet changed out before she would move in? Can’t say as I blamed her.
JeepEr #221264 December 14, 2020 4:08 pm 2
Well, it was a urinal so I can understand replacing it.
Glenfilthie #221092 December 14, 2020 11:22 am 6
“People really wanted to believe Trump was the answer to the failing system, so they were willing to accept increasing ridiculous explanations for his inability and unwillingness to follow through on his promises.”——————————————-Trump was the fragile spark in a bed of dry tinder. All he needed was a puff of breeze, the tinder would have caught, and the blaze would have roared. Instead, he got pissed on. Sometimes by Our Guys. And they ran their mouths as the spark fizzled out.And now they can be heard with the answer: “there is too much dry dead wood! What this fire needs to get started, is some gasoline and a couple kegs of black powder!!!”somebody wake me up when the fire’s out… and it’s time to rebuild…
Falcone #221113 December 14, 2020 11:35 am 7
I have yet to hear Joe Normie reconcile his love for Trump with Trump pumping hard the vaccine
The Wild Geese Howard #221148 December 14, 2020 12:24 pm 6
You’re speaking to one of the points that sometimes gives me the awful feeling this all just one giantkayfabeop.
KGB #221213 December 14, 2020 2:38 pm 3
I’ve been having it out with a fellow on an old timey wrestling board about the recent Three Card Monty election. He fancies himself some sort of erudite centrist (obviously leans left but will frequently post links toReason Magazine). He’s not dumb, but he’s adamant that the election was not a work. The problem is that Trump campaigned on the wrong message — e.g. calling Biden a socialist — and that caused voters to break from him to Biden. For someone who understands what kayfabe is, he’s alarmingly unwilling to admit its existence in the real world.
sentry #221175 December 14, 2020 12:57 pm 0
trump’s true nature has been revealed, he has no excuse for promoting vaccine, trump and his family are pure filth, glad democrats stole the elections.
RoBG #221229 December 14, 2020 3:07 pm 1
The same people will still be in charge.
abprosper #221203 December 14, 2020 2:26 pm 1
Its natural and healthy to trust your leader even if he is an idiot at times.A complex society in which no one can lead or be trusted will break down into warbands and tribes very quickly as the most violent, smart and charismatic rise to dominance.
RoBG #221227 December 14, 2020 3:06 pm 0
Or justifying these southern border crossing numbers:https://www.cbp.gov/newsroom/stats/sw-border-migration(Check it out. FY21 is already worse than prev. record-breaking FY19). I haven’t been able to find the (c)(8) (asylum applicants) numbers for FY19 but the Trump admin issued exponentially more discretionary work visas to border jumpers than any other president for a similar time period in history.https://tinyurl.com/ydhzhbft
Indispensable_Destiny #220994 December 14, 2020 9:59 am 6
Much of the last four years is well on its way down the memory hole. Other than “Orange Man Bad” and COVID, what will be remembered? The media certainly ignored all else.
Falcone #221016 December 14, 2020 10:10 am 2
now that I think about, yeah, other than covid and election year mischief in 2020 what will trump years be remembered for? Nothing really happened other than media hysterics. I’ll have to think about it
Indispensable_Destiny #221045 December 14, 2020 10:24 am 5
News of election 2020 mischief will be clubbed until no longer moving. Then forgotten.
Rwc1963 #221123 December 14, 2020 11:52 am 5
I wouldn’t say whats going on is a result of democracy per se, but of a oligarchy that has went full on crazy and declared war on the lower class whites.Trump’s win in 2016 freaked them out and his half-hearted attempts at fixing parts of the system, enraged them even further and they blame the MAGA peeps for it. Even though he jettisoned all the nationalists and brought in Bushites and Obama era hacks.In regards to election fraud. Trump deserved the reaming he got. Kris Kobach in 2017 was trying to get Trump interested cleaning up the voting system. Instead he let McConnell and the others crush his efforts.2018 was a warning of things to come and Trump ignored it instead dropping the hammer on state GOP officials to keep ballot harvesting and other fraud techniques from happening like in Orange county CA where the Dems flipped it fraudulently.
The Wild Geese Howard #221218 December 14, 2020 2:47 pm 3
Some good news- Smaller sportsball audiences are beginning to hit network ad rates: https://www.zerohedge.com/economics/dismal-nfl-ratings-force-networks-renegotiate-advertisers
Falcone #221263 December 14, 2020 4:08 pm 1
buh buh boycotts don’t don’t don’t work !!!! 😉
ABCer #221276 December 14, 2020 4:31 pm 0
Boycott alone will not, we aren’t Dindus. Boycott does withdraw legitimacy and may have the GOP chasing us, but probably not. Power is not money, power is its own bottom line. To withdraw and think this has any effect is dangerous and foolish, to withdraw from their silly game to play our own serious game is still dangerous but not folly.
Falcone #221288 December 14, 2020 6:11 pm 1
Yeah, but on a purely personal level I am all about boycotting the GOP Maybe it doesn’t amount to much, but what it does is free me up to get to things much more important in my life. I think spending my 30 years as a GOP loyalist while never getting anything in return is reason enough to take a second look at things and refocus my energies.
Chumly #221293 December 14, 2020 6:56 pm 0
Sportsball hahahahahahahahahahahhahahahahaha Suck it.
Whiskey #221295 December 14, 2020 7:03 pm 0
Boycotts are a very good start, see my Disney comment above, particularly the streaming services which have huge start up costs and not much revenue compared to cable.But we also need to be a non-violent Viet Cong. Violence allows the clampdown, but non-violent aggression makes things costly. As Obama said, get in their faces. At the time and place of your choosing. Always create fear and uncertainty among the enemy.And to spread rumors, particularly if they are likely true:A. The Chinese Military will be invited in by Jill Biden to put most Deplorables in camps aided by Apple and Google Big Data.B. Christianity and especially Christmas will be outlawed by Dr. Jill (always refer to her this way, it makes people think of Dr. Phil that Oprah phony) because the Chinese demand it.C. The police are being abolished and replaced by Chinese military personnel.Generally, that the Bidens depend on Chinese money and power as a foreigner’s tool. This has the advantage of being generally true. It was the generally true accusation of the VC against South Vietnam.
ganderson #221170 December 14, 2020 12:48 pm 3
It might be where I live, but there are many true believers in the Church of Covid here in the Northeast. Mask wearing is off the charts, and unlike even in thoroughly cucked Minnesota, there is, other than the indispensable Howie Carr very little opposition to the Covid panic.
Falcone #221183 December 14, 2020 1:44 pm 2
Out herein sunny CA the mask wearing conformity correlates with a neighborhood’s “WalkScore” Wherever WalkScore is low, say suburbs or small towns, people aren’t much into it.
Barnard #221040 December 14, 2020 10:22 am 3
We’re not seeing public surveys on the handling of the pandemic, as it would be a waste of time and it would contradict the fantasy. The people at the top really think they are beloved by the public and it is a small bunch of hooligans causing trouble for them.We are still getting typical job approval polls for Governors. They are a lot higher than they should be in most cases. Cuomo took a post election hit, but is still at 56%. Whitmer had 59% job approval before the election. I guess you could argue every sane in person in New York has left the state or won’t answer a poll like this. Andy Beshear, the Democrat Governor of Kentucky still has an approval rating of 53%, so isn’t just confined to blue states.https://www.detroitnews.com/story/news/politics/2020/10/28/whitmer-job-approval-beats-trump-job-approval-michigan-poll/6051858002/https://www.wkbw.com/news/state-news/poll-cuomo-approval-ratings-down-from-october-across-new-york-state
B125 #221061 December 14, 2020 10:33 am 14
Were these the same polls that had Biden +17 in Wisconsin? Everything is fake, polls as well as elections. Might as well be reading astrology signs to predict public sentiment.
Barnard #221064 December 14, 2020 10:35 am 2
They may well be fake. I was responding to the comment that they aren’t polling the pandemic, they might not be polling it directly, but it isn’t showing up in generic job approval numbers they are still running.
Kentucky Headhunter #221076 December 14, 2020 10:55 am 0
You believe poll numbers reported by the MSM?
DLS #221114 December 14, 2020 11:36 am 3
I just took a random poll of my immediate family and I am at 75% approval. My poll is more free of bias than the ones you are looking at.
ABCer #221025 December 14, 2020 10:13 am 3
All very true and on point.One clarification- in America by Constitution, law, administratively and in factthere is no monopoly on the use of force.As indeed we see in the streets.There’s never a monopoly in fact, just some regimes legally make it so – but in our regime not even legally. That’s if the elites could trust the troops and police rank and file – they can’t. Generals can be bought and are, so with Police Chiefs- but the rank and file know andloathe them.Had we a leader, a biter instead of a carny barker ….History suggests leaders come when they see a people and an army leaderless and seething.No one told Trump you can do anything with bayonets but sit on them.
Cal #220997 December 14, 2020 10:02 am 3
a minor aristocracy we call the managerial classCan someone explain this term? I have heard Paul Gottfreid use it. Can someone name 5 members of the managerial class I might be familiar with. Thanks in advance!
The Wild Geese Howard #221036 December 14, 2020 10:18 am 8
I’ll try. Barr, Durham, Wray, Comey, Strzok, Haspel, McCabe
DLS #221110 December 14, 2020 11:31 am 4
You forgot 80% of the GOP
ABCer #221162 December 14, 2020 12:43 pm 3
Lawrence Summers, Victoria Nukand, Jaime Gorelick, Norm Eisen,Epstein
ABCer #221163 December 14, 2020 12:43 pm 1
Victoria Nuland…
Orpheus13 #221022 December 14, 2020 10:11 am 2
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Durendal #221043 December 14, 2020 10:23 am 3
I’m guessing he has an important point to make and cut him some slack he’s doing this for free in his spare time.
Falcone #220996 December 14, 2020 9:59 am 2
Why I think Biden as POTUS is a good thing. As someone has said, 2021 is the tar baby. Let that stick to Biden and the Dems. Whatever is bad for Dems is good for me.
Barnard #221000 December 14, 2020 10:03 am 16
They will blame every problem on Trump and take credit for ending the shutdowns and “beating” Covid. The media will help them churn out propaganda to support this narrative every step of the way.
Falcone #221012 December 14, 2020 10:09 am 6
They will but the people won’t buy it hence greater and greater detachment between the cloud and the dirt people. The old tricks won’t work when people are facing the prospect of being homeless
Outdoorspro #221072 December 14, 2020 10:47 am 10
They will but the people won’t buy it I respect your optimism, yet remain entirely too skeptical.
DLS #221102 December 14, 2020 11:28 am 1
They don’t have to buy it. They just have to be placated enough to do nothing.
Falcone #221106 December 14, 2020 11:29 am 1
I have been around for too long and have seen too many cycles The idea of financial collapse in one’s life has a way of focusing the mind where blameshfting won’t work when people demand results
DLS #221100 December 14, 2020 11:27 am 5
Everything FDR did was worthless. Unemployment was still above 15% at the end of his second term. It took the devastation of Europe, and the boost to US industry to rebuild it, to pull us out of the depression. Yet, he was loved and trusted during times of crisis. Owning the PR organs can cover a lot.
abprosper #221194 December 14, 2020 2:12 pm 0
In the 30’s yes. Now not so much.
Alzaebo #221118 December 14, 2020 11:43 am 4
They damm well sure won’t remember the “10 million jobs returned, no new foreign wars” part. Remember how rosy things looked last year?
RoBG #221265 December 14, 2020 4:09 pm 0
I am truly thankful that Trump didn’t give Bibi his desired war with Iran. When it comes to “jobs returned” the Bureau of Labor statistics tells a different story.https://tinyurl.com/y9sjd7ybI’d be more than happy to see the links proving otherwise.
Drew #221164 December 14, 2020 12:44 pm 6
A Biden presidency is a bad thing, period. Claiming that the Dems will finally have to own the blame for their policies is particularly thin gruel. The only reasonable way to evaluate a presidency is whether it results in a material improvement in all its citizens’ lives in a more-or-less equal measure. Our lives will be worse under Biden, and his presidency is a bad thing. To say anything else is simply dishonest.
Valley Lurker #221261 December 14, 2020 4:04 pm 3
“The Conservative Case for a Biden Presidency, by Rich Lowry.” No thanks.
Johnny #220991 December 14, 2020 9:55 am 2
Zman are you on the Cotto Gottfried show today? If so looking forward to it
usNthem #221303 December 14, 2020 9:09 pm 3
He was – and as usual a good discussion. The man is prolific between his daily columns, the weekly podcast, Taki and the occasional outside interviews. Been one of my best net finds ever.
KeepTheChange #221309 December 14, 2020 9:54 pm 1
Sometimes, I can’t help but see Zman as controlled opposition. Always going into glorious detail about all of the secondary issues, but never going to the root cause. Sure, Trump wasn’t perfect (ex:H-1Bs), but maybe he had to play the game to get re-elected. Maybe I’m a fool, but I think that he was genuinely fighting against the globalists. But, you can never win if you never identify the target. I think that Zman knows exactly where all of these progressive movements have sprung. How about an article on the Frankfurt School and Cultural Marxism?
Falcone #221313 December 14, 2020 10:28 pm 2
The ((())) question gets talked about enough. They are what they are. They’re a bit of a scummy breed, everyone knows it. We are better off not letting them bring us down. Because they will. That’s their job.
KeepTheChange #221320 December 15, 2020 12:24 am 0
I appreciate your reply … its good to have alittle back-n-forth. I just think that whatever we try to do, and whenever progress is attempted, it will be targeted by The Usual Suspects and will be infiltrated. If their tactics are not identified, and yelled from the rooftops, or not written in the sky, it will, more than likely, succeed every time.
Falcone #221323 December 15, 2020 1:41 am 0
Of course it will be targeted. They’re hired mercenaries. The elites bring them to do their dirty work, be it collect taxes, or in our case keep us on the plantation as debt slaves or whatever you want to call it. If there is a God, and if there is righteousness and justice in the world, which I think there is, they’ll get what they have coming to them. They’re rotten people. But they serve a purpose. Their job is to weaken us. They’ve essentially been hired to do that.why do the white elites hate us so much they’d bring in these people to torment us? I don’t know. I’m just done dealing with it and why I’m basically dropping out for a time. There is too much to be for. Life is too precious to let them ruin it. Fuck em.
Falcone #221301 December 14, 2020 8:50 pm 1
My daughter just walked into my library while I was listening to Zman on Cotto. She asked what i was listening to. I said “Zman, I love Zman. Great podcasts.” She seemed very interested So my bet is you got a new fan, Z. And I’m sure her boyfriend will become a fan
Whiskey #221292 December 14, 2020 6:53 pm 1
To get actual real change voting is useless. Of course its useful to make the enemy expend energy and money in places like Georgia but they will cheat anyway.A couple of observations. First most people value the homey, ordinary things and their own ability to pay bills and have a good time more than grand political ideas. The elites are stupidly forcing the Great Reset and a dramatic loss of living standards for White people so that Chinese people can have more. We ought to call them on this in conversation with normie — normie has to eat bugs so Chinese people can eat the food America produces Bill Gates Zillionaire said so. Second, the Great Reset has many of the Pozz Purveyors strugging.Pr0n0hub had its CC processing pulled by the NYT and Nick Kristoff. [I thought Lefty liked pedophilia? So many are pedos. Confused??] Now Disney is poneying up enormous sums for streaming based on Star Wars and Marvel just as they announced “Gender Neutral” Star Wars kids toys/outfits and that Star Lord is now gay, punishment for Chris Pratt being Christian and not showing up at a Biden fundraiser.A boycott of Disney over Starlord being gay may seem like a trivial thing, but for a lot White dudes this stuff matters like changing the Cleveland Indians to the Gender Neutrals (announced today, well the first part anyway its Cleveland Baseball Team). Disney is vulnerable — they are “burning platform” (Nokia) with cable channels and having to spend a ton on streaming while charging below what cable brings them. Time to make them feel pain.
Higgs Boson #221273 December 14, 2020 4:23 pm 1
If Biden gets head-faked into conceding, he’s going to ruin all the fun.
Dindu Nuffin State #221224 December 14, 2020 3:04 pm 1
Dindu Nuffin Durham Report; 👨🏿‍🦱
Dindu Nuffin State #221226 December 14, 2020 3:06 pm 0
Honestly Durham should just appear in Blackface.
Stranger in a strange land #221161 December 14, 2020 12:41 pm 1
“Lots of unhappy people in the streets, feeling the rush or revolt, will have time to share their theories with one another”.That exchange of theories ought to make for compelling observation, or even more so actual participation.
diconez #222115 December 17, 2020 12:15 pm 0
The problem is that normies believe that the marketplace is always right not only in terms of money, but of ideas as well. And thus too many buy into the official fantasy, and worse, believe the votes always reflect that. Deep down it’s the house slave fantasist’s fear that the freedom awarded by truth will be too hard and/or tough to handle. Thus the fantasist takes the poisoned apple, and pretends the snake is being truthful in saying the fantasy will make you god. Reality brings freedom by allowing our mind to be at ease with being children of God. And if God’s reality pushes His children to fight for their lives against the heathen, for His glory and their posterity, so be it.
Skippy Roo #221581 December 15, 2020 9:38 pm 0
“The first lesson a revolutionary must learn is that he is a doomed man.” Huey P. Newton
DFCtomm #221541 December 15, 2020 5:36 pm 0
“The people into this stuff are not sitting around compulsively cleaning their weapons, surrounded by stocks of MRE’s. They are highly engaged citizens who believe in the system.”Those people surrounded by ammo have no faith in the system, neither courts or elections. They’re snickering as they watch the whole thing come down, as they been imagining it would. This is all confirmation of what they believe.However, it’s important to remember Zman isn’t surrounded by ammo. Zman thinks, to at least a certain extent, we can work within the system, and avoid a total collapse, and I personally disagree with him about that. The collapse is the event that precipitates change. There is no Spring without Winter.
Higgs Boson #221326 December 15, 2020 4:52 am 0
Missed this one. Interesting. “Executive Order on Providing an Order of Succession within the Department of Defense | The White House”https://www.whitehouse.gov/presidential-actions/executive-order-providing-order-succession-within-department-defense/
Sackerson #221325 December 15, 2020 4:47 am 0
In 2016 Trump had a Republican majority in the House and Senate, and still couldn’t his Wall done. Surely that says a lot about the Republican Party. Treacherous friends are worse than open enemies.
Whiskey #221315 December 14, 2020 10:51 pm 0
Link is not working, somewhat related Disney + is planning a reboot of Firefly, but “family friendly” and presumably without the prostitute character. Or Joss Whedon who has hilariously been called Ray-Ciss by that Cybore actor from Justice League. Whedon’s a male feminist — uber liberal who used his feminism and producer status to sleep with all his starlets, his idiot wife found out years later. [He looks like a human-potato hybrid]That’s a desperate ploy. Looking for a cheap property they own (check), dirt cheap to produce (sets and not much fighting, check) with a pre-existing fanbase (though tiny, I think 15 people saw the movie version) and recognizing that movies and theaters are dead, dead, dead. I really do think that with coordinated boycotts and rumors (subliminal Chinese messaging to turn your kids gay in Disney + content) the DR can help drive Disney into bankruptcy. Since Epstein did not kill himself and Trump did not lose anything is possible and believable.
KeepTheChange #221311 December 14, 2020 10:09 pm 0
For the scholarly amongst us, I would recommend Andrew Joyce, Ph.D., at The Occidental Observer. Very good writer and, although I forget the details of his journey, I seem to recall that his was a slow migration on the JQ that took several years to culminate to its present stage. Of course, he references Kevin McDonald, who Zman, quite naturally, has pilloried in some podcasts.
Falcone #221312 December 14, 2020 10:26 pm 0
This is all so strange to me because in my day it was common for academics to talk about the Jewishness of writers or ideas and the effects of their Jewishness on their work that said, it was also common to dislike Jews and say as much openly.time is a strange thing, but in time these things just changedI also feel bad for the younger set for whom these things are like a forbidden fruit suddenly handed to them My grandmother for example hated them and she was the norm.point being there is nothing new in any of this. What seems like a forbidden fruit to young guys is an old shoe to others. Deep down everyone gets it. And people also get that fixating on them is not an answer We are better than them they know it, we know it deep down, Sure, you can punch down to the competition. But what does that say about you? Speaking rhetorically. Challenge yourself Set a goal for yourself and stop thinking of them They’ll just bring you down to their level
KeepTheChange #221321 December 15, 2020 12:43 am 0
I agree with alot of what you wrote … and appreciate the advice. I just want to say that it’s not about hating any group, but just identifying group behavior (I sound like K. McDonald now) and knowing effective ways to address it. I think that most people, if they knew, would consider it a strange thing for the wealthiest ethnic group in this country (world?) can, with a straight face, accuse Whites of White supremacy … while appearing to be White, (((themselves))). Think Jake Tapper.
Falcone #221322 December 15, 2020 1:32 am 0
i hear ya. It’s crazy what they get away with.Perhaps because I was raised not seeing them as equals, always seeing them as these alien people, they don’t get to me as much as they probably should. I’d be lying if there weren’t times when I phoned my dad and bitched to him about how I can’t friggin stomach them, because my dad has had to deal with them a lot too. He understands. There’s no good reason we should have to live among them. There really isn’t. It sucks.I don’t have any answers. I’m just fortunate that I am able to not think about them except on those days, maybe 10 times a year, when I have to deal with them. But I can assure you, we are not alone. No one likes them. At some point the pent up anger is going to blow.
KeepTheChange #221306 December 14, 2020 9:32 pm 0
Zman keeps bashing Trump and I think that he’s just wrong. It could be said that the first two years of Trump were infected with people not wanting to get too close because not everyone knew that the Russia collusion hoax didn’t have legs. Then, when that hoax started to lose steam, Trump probably realized that he had precious few friends in DC, anyway. So, he was stymied at every turn, but still needed to get re-elected. Zman doesn’t seem to understand that a lame-duck Trump would’ve been a new ballgame.
Falcone #221314 December 14, 2020 10:35 pm 1
All that may be true but trump tried and failed. He couldn’t even stop riots. So what we want of him is beyond the power of any one man, Tough pill to swallow, but there it is. Now we know we were all naive to think one man could solve all these problems. Now we know better. Live and learn.
cg2 #221302 December 14, 2020 9:08 pm 0
may we live in interesting times
Chumly #221296 December 14, 2020 7:03 pm 0
Whatever theories might be out there, here is what the leftists send around, from an email today — I am tapped into their network – from the great Amurrrican, Stacey Dash, oops, Abrams.“Hard-working folks”, “justice”, “American values”, “social justice” … as they collapse the society, they spare no buzz-phrase. Not to mention, another “Reverand”… for good measure.>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>(Liberal Person Targeted),In a moment, I’m going to ask you to make a donation to Reverend Raphael Warnock’s campaign for U.S. Senate in Georgia. But first, let me explain why I am proud to endorse him and why your support is so critical.In 2018, we built a diverse coalition of hardworking folks from all over Georgia, especially Georgians from marginalized communities who felt unseen and unheard. Our fight was rooted in the belief that poverty is immoral, that Georgians deserve access to affordable health care and that the economy ought to work for everyone.The fact is, people in the White House and the U.S. Senate are failing Georgians of every political party, every race and every region.The Republican Party’s divisive agenda – and systematic voter suppression – goes against everything we stand for as Americans. But here’s what gives me hope: All around the country, good people – including many folks who have never been involved with politics before – are stepping up to fight back and defend American values. We have the grassroots energy we need to restore this nation’s democracy – and if we all do our part to elect leaders who share these values, I know we can make our vision for the country a reality.That’s why I am so excited Reverend Raphael Warnock, a champion for Georgians in the fight for justice, is running for U.S. Senate. Reverend Warnock is a strong leader, a pastor and an advocate – and he would be the first Black senator our state has ever elected. If you are as ready as I am to support Reverend Warnock’s campaign, please give $5 or more right now to become a Founding Runoff Donor so we can flip Georgia blue and take back the Senate for Democrats.Reverend Warnock knows the incredible movement we built in Georgia in 2018, and he’s determined to build the energy we need all the way to the ballot box in January. He’s ready to fight voter suppression, ensure that health care is protected and expanded and break barriers to opportunity so that future generations know that the sky is the limit.For the past 15 years, I have watched Reverend Warnock lead on issues of social justice, economic access and voting rights. We stood shoulder to shoulder on the toughest fights, against opponents who used their power to belittle and erase their fellow Georgians. He’s dedicated his life to public service, and I know without a doubt that he will be a strong advocate for folks in every corner of our state.But if we are going to build momentum and flip Georgia blue, we need to show Reverend Warnock – and a Republican Party that thinks they can steal this seat by spending millions of dollars and suppressing the vote – that we have a grassroots movement strong enough to win. That is why I need supporters like YOU to help us get this campaign off the ground.So please, (Liberal Person Targeted), will you give $5 now – as much as you can spare – to help Reverend Warnock win this Senate seat, flip Georgia blue and ensure our constitutional rights are protected in the years to come?Thank you for your support.Stacey Abrams
ABCer #221274 December 14, 2020 4:27 pm 0
uh-Stephen Miller on Fox & Friends says “an alternative” group of electors is also voting today: “As we speak, an alternate slate of electors in the contested states is going to vote and we are going to send those results to Congress.” He goes onto to say the only hard date is Jan 20, and there is enough time to effect a Remedy. I have no idea how serious they are, it is at least setting the stage for what ever is next.
Guest #221280 December 14, 2020 5:03 pm 1
My understanding is that republican electors in GA, PA, and NV have sent ballots for Trump. Have not heard confirmation from MI, WI, or AZ, but I suspect they will do the same.The President of the Senate (Pence) opens the envelopes and counts the votes. Pence is under no legal obligation to open the envelope from the Democrat slates of electors. He can simply choose to toss the Democrat envelopes in the trash, open the Republican envelopes, count the votes, and declare Trump the winner. The Democrats will scream bloody murder, but there’s little they can do about it.This is why I left a comment a few days ago that it’s premature for GA voters to decide to stay home in the Senate runoff. The Republican party still has a chance to correct this situation. If they find the grit to do so then they deserve to have the Senate. If they don’t then the Republican party is as good as dead.As a bonus, this move by Pence could likely trigger some of the deep blue states to secede, or even start a civil war. Bring it.
Vizzini #221223 December 14, 2020 3:04 pm 0
I notice brave Gov. Hogan has comments and even likes/dislikes disabled on his video.
krustykurmudgeon #221096 December 14, 2020 11:25 am -1
Z – how come you call Biden the pretender? There are bad things about Biden but I feel like he didn’t scare the normies the way HRC and to a lesser extent Obama did.
Falcone #221112 December 14, 2020 11:34 am 10
Kamala will take care of the scare part But Biden is still a pretender. No way he crushed Obama in vote totals
DLS #221116 December 14, 2020 11:42 am 12
Yes. He wasn’t as despised by the right as Hillary, but he wasn’t as loved on the left. His “speeches” drew dozens of people, most of them DNC staffers. No way he got 81 million votes.
RoBG #221239 December 14, 2020 3:24 pm 3
The “D” primaries were very instructive. The Party kept changing the rules until they achieved their desired outcome: a corrupt dementia patient, and a person who bowed out after round one, due to lack of support. They had candidates w/ more support and did their utmost to quash them. It’s so weird.
Dutch #221284 December 14, 2020 5:29 pm 3
The D’s promoted people who would go with the back-room program without question, and got rid of the more popular candidates that might have turned out to be stubborn about promoting their own ideas, instead of unquestioningly working off of the back-room script.
Refrob #221557 December 15, 2020 7:17 pm 0
He got 81 million votes – from about 60 million people. Instead of combing the cemeteries as in the past, they let the “register to vote” drive bring the names to them. Guarantee there are many of the newly registered that cast a ballot without knowing they did. High tech matched ballots to unused names for the rest.


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