Listening to Z on RamZPaul. Great stuff!It’s not going to do much good for people to lose their livelihood, even get killed over this. We don’t have the numbers yet to play Whak-A-Mole, but they are coming. If one of us gets sacrificed, it won’t be covered on the MSN. An early sacrifice may be useless….. at this point. Let’s go underground. Sprinkle those seeds like I did with the old Mormon gal. Aborting your 1 year old and Reparations Red Pilled her. Perfect opportunity and dumped a lawn spreader of seeds. This is rolling. As was pointed out, the burning of Notre Dame alone Red Pilled a ton of people. The growing craziness insanity of the left is red pilling people. We are affecting the Red Pill change. Critical mass will be reached. Trust that you will see the opportunities and the next step and the next step. The future becomes the present and shows you where to step. This is only the beginning. “Slowly exhaust the occupier.”

Please listen to Frodi at about 18:00 minutes into the first video. He speaks correctly, I think, to the point about “going underground” in the face of the assault on truth and speakers thereof by the left.He contends that we are winning and that we have them on the ropes, that these deplatforming and other measures are acts of desperation on the part of our enemies. They have shown their intent and nature and folks a re waking up to the threat they pose. Now is not the time to disappear but to turn up the pressure. Drive them to de-legitimize themselves evermore.His recollection of a conversation with another resister is bedrock morality: We cannot protect our families if we are not men, and men do not cower from the truth, nor from threats from our enemies. If we do not achieve ethnostates for our children they will have no future. Listen again, as my paraphrasing does him but pale justice.The only choice to be made here is between courage and cowardice, between the future and annihilation.Men have been dying for the future of their children for all time.

Great talk Zman, I am glad you are doing more of these appearances. My elevator pitch is ripped off directly from a gab comment of yours; “The great chain of causation is Biology->Culture->Institutions->Politics->Economics. If you get the biology wrong, everything else fails.”

Frodi had a good idea. The ADL has tried to crush opposition to the Jews, CAIR is trying to do the same for the Muslims. Much of the progressive agenda has been supported by the ACLU for years. The Right needs an organization to do what the lawyer did for the Covington kid, sue the transgressions against them.

OMG!!! Don’t fight back! Don’t rebel! Don’t resist! That would be BAD. They might take ma’ bass boat! I might lose my government check! Thank you Mr. and Ms. Federal Agent. We have more than enough bodies to wipe the combined forces of all the world’s governments from the earth. Federal shills and gutless nothings who have already surrendered there homelands to subhuman rape gangs have nothing of value to say in this matter. What we need more than anything are small groups of violent men who are ready and willing to kill for liberty. All others need not apply. You will never fight. You haven’t the guts for it. Once the ball starts we will find our Lee or our Washington. But fools who wait for “someday” will still be waiting as they get off the trains and start that last walk to the gas. Worthless cowards. How little value you place on your own freedom. May the chains of your slavery set lightly on your necks.

The Norwegians involved in this thing seem more based than their neighbors.Obviously there are many answers to the Organization Question.Perhaps one answer is simply beginning to influence existing organizations, which are being held together by mostly very old people who are delighted whenever a smart young person shows up. Like anyone else, they want to see whatever they have spent their lives on outlive them. And their fresh-faced young successors have instant access to goodwill from the sorts of elderly ladies who exert more control over their communities than is often realized.The Sons of Norway might be a good place to meet people who are open to new ideas:“Gosh, Ole. Did you see they are doing back in the Old Country?”A fledgling group is easy to crush in the nest. But a large and long-established group that suddenly pops up on the radar of the Thought Police? Think Elks, Eagles, Moose, Lions, Knights of Columbus, American Legion, VFW, and so on.

Frodi is right — we definitely need a strong lobby to force change. The only thing our federal government responds to are lobbyists and their money, the lifeblood of corrupt Washington, DC. The lobbyists constantly woo our Congress and various institutions to fashion legislation and policies that serve their particular special interests. The insurance lobby is strong in DC, and they make sure the Congress embraces keeping the unneeded middlemen in American “health care.” The NRA represents well their members and have pretty good success in protecting 2nd Amendment gun rights, no small feat. We all know guns would be banned by now if not for the NRA. The blacks have their lobby groups, as do the latinos, the asians, the muslims, etc. Everyone is represented except for the white people, who, let’s face it, provide the revenue for most of the benefits that all these other interest groups receive, and to our white people’s detriment.We very badly need a white lobby, a strong organization with membership fees paying for org leaders who are intelligent and persuasive in getting our agenda implemented. (A couple of experienced lobbyists with excellent success records should be hired as they know the ropes and have the contacts.) Our membership fees would also financially take care of these brave leaders who surely will face great public adversity from our controlled media and otherwise lose their livelihoods. Though much of the muted public may have sympathy with the leaders, we all see how the media is a powerful tool in oppressing any dissident voices and ruining the lives of those who dare speak out.The ‘small groups of violent men’ approach may succeed in scaring normies who don’t pay close attention to politics or demographics or anything outside the narrative fed to them. The powers that be would no doubt *delight* in lucrative skirmishes with bands of violent white men, who the establishment will squash like gnats (think armed drones). They may choose to prolong the useless conflicts because they’ll use the conflict for a massive new propaganda campaign and MSM news outlets love to draw out affairs with a few drips of information daily on situations that are maddeningly drawn out for years, like what we’re witnessing now. In this massive new propaganda campaign, the violent bands of white men are the villains, further scaring and dividing the public. The elite will also prolong any conflict because the establishment *loves* enriching the arms industry (another powerful lobby).If small groups of violent white men do arise of their own accord, the dissident right should treat them the same way as the Democrats treat Antifa, which is the Democrats act like they never heard of them, are unaware of their violent actions, and have nothing to do with them. And so in this way Antifa is permitted to frighten people and insist on their message being the correct one. Antifa receives tacit approval from establishment in that they are never demonized, their violence and lawlessness is downplayed by the complicit media, and their gatherings are never raided or disbanded by the authorities.A really simple message for our organization to start rallying people with is: It is time for an immigration moratorium in the U.S. until everyone here is assimilated and then the issue can be reviewed again at some point in the future. The first easy step in this moratorium is turning off the money spigots. Provide plane tickets back to their homelands to all those who can not support themselves in the U.S. without taxpayers’ money. I bet a surprising number of immigrants already here would be in favor of pulling up the ladder behind them, since they understand how damaging the competition from cheap labor is. Many Americans can get behind the simple idea of an immigration moratorium. If we can show people something other than the narrative’s immigrant sob stories, most people will probably get behind a measure that makes their country safer, saves tax dollars, and bolsters jobs and wages for the natives.

Case in point, Roger Stone may give speech at strip club. Maybe.https://www.thedailybeast.com/broke-roger-stone-is-speaking-for-money-at-a-strip-clubThey play for keeps.

Another perspective. Perhaps the house of cards will fall down before a rational repair movement can come up to speed and reverse course. Perhaps a rapid collapse unexpectedly occurs after decades of slow decline. Perhaps social chaos ensues and government is powerless to remedy the situation, or alternately, they make everything even worse as a result of heavy-handed reaction. Perhaps survivability once again becomes local, immediate, and founded upon personal wits and strength. Perhaps this results in a better outcome than either merging with or isolating from the parasites.

Pol Pot’s revolutionaries giving speeches at craters reminds me of a couple dissidents at a norimiecon site I read. Every time an anti-white story happens like Covington or Smollett they are there reminding everyone that our rulers hate whites.

Re. Zman’s comment on Happy Homelands that the current (perennial?) conservative-progressive conflict was earlier played out in both the English and the American civil wars. Woodley of Menie opines (here, starting at 1:20:00,https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WcJYJNTvRTA) that the English civil war was an ethnic war between haplogroups I1 (East-Anglian Vikings) and R1b (Celts), with victory going to the former. A couple of centuries beforehand the Wars of the Roses took place; they were a kind of rehearsal, although the result was different because the Lancastrian Celts beat the Yorkist Norsemen. The conflict was enacted for a third time in the American civil war between the Puritan egalitarian North and the Catholic monarchist South, honours again going to the northerners.

“On the other hand, I don’t think they have the challenges we have here in America with people being fired from their jobs for holding unpopular opinions. I could be wrong.”It varies from country to country, obviously better in Eastern Europe, Denmark probably better too compared to the US. But in Sweden, Germany and the UK whole different story. For starters no European country has the equivalent of the 1st amendment. That means you can make laws against hate speech and ‘racism’ and what have you. If things are bad in the USA thank your founders for the 1st A. They can still do all sorts of devious stuff but the absence of it makes it far easier to be a zealous SJW prosecutor in Britain or Germany compared to the US. And they do all that sort of lawfare stuff too. Maybe less social media banning simply b/c fb and such are not as aware of Swedish nationalists compared to Americans. And you can most certainly lose your job for being ‘right wing’ in Europe.

I listened in real time, including the break for the Google screw up. I thought it was productive and I agree with your view.Something Europeans have difficulty grasping is the sheer size of the population here. A few years ago I looked at various European countries to compare with South Carolina, in which I both live and am native. My state has about the same population and land area as the Republic of Ireland and Scotland separately. South Carolina has a slightly lower population than Sweden, lower than Finland, but not by much. Really, only France, Germany, and England minus Scotland are substantially larger. That’s just considering South Carolina, a rather small state.

Pugs are a pillar of any sensible political regime.

Something I’d suggest doing would be to join a DSA organization if possible, to learn their superior organizing methods. On college campuses, they are far and above the most popular organization while TurningPoint sputters. If you’ve ever been publicly identified as being right-wing, obviously infiltration won’t work. Their model of dues-paying membership and local chapters stands in vast contrast to the failed sundry Tea Party orgs that showed up a decade ago.

A couple of quick comments.One thing that each independent European Nationalist group has that we in America don’t, is a homogenous underlying identity. A white Swede at some level, thinks of himself as a Swede, however unfashionable it may be to do so. That identity makes them distinct from the Dutch, or a German. That is literally their ‘tribe’. In America, ‘European’ or ‘white’ isn’t a positive identity. Even you Z, make jokes about how we ‘aren’t going to be able to get rid of the Irish’.When a central tenet of a movement is about ‘exclusion’, jokes like that might be off putting to someone who is of Irish national heritage because they know that it may be non-europeans today, but it could just as well be the Irish who are being booted out tomorrow. The identities of America leave cultural room for a joke like yours. but as a movement grows and the mean IQ drops, some people will be taking that joke seriously. And who will sign on to a movement that is inherently designed for them to enter some lower tier?The other thing that liberalism has going for it is that it’s naivete about the nature of man is a natural default state for the young. Every year a few more liberals voters are created from whole cloth by 17 year olds reaching majority. Unless you can tap into such an ideological ‘default state’, any movement will be constantly playing catch up – much like traditional conservatism always has. I think we can count on liberal cynicism doing some of that for us, but I don’t think it’s enough.

Speaking of lunatics in the movement, whats up with paddy on ramzpaul? This person has always got some bizarre rant on catholicism going on every single paul show. I guess he has to read them because she/he actually donates to the show via superchat. It’s bizarre.