No wonder Bush 43 went into his dormouse act once Obama was elected. If he was a Saudi protege he was part of the club. The Bushes see themselves as oil royalty, and the Saudis as sort of kin. How we still fell for his all-American everyman schtick even after he evacuated his Saudi pals after 9/11 is incredible. Just goes to show how disoriented everyone was back then.

I don’t think it is a conspiracy …it’s an ecosystem….those at the top of society select carriers of information (propaganda) in order to use them to influence the culture, to shape the culture so that the culture suits them…this is a process of domestication…just as mankind domesticated livestock by selecting certain animals for their traits…mankind, over thousands of years, selected meaty animals with mild dispositions…and eventually we wound up with domestic livestock…this was a deliberate process, requiring coordinated action….but it was not a conspiracy…this is a known process…from wikipedia:Who Paid the Piper? The CIA and the Cultural Cold War (U.S. title The Cultural Cold War: The CIA and the World of Arts and Letters) is a 1999 book by Frances Stonor Saunders. The book discusses the mid-20th century Central Intelligence Agency efforts to infiltrate and co-opt artistic movements in order to combat political influence from the Soviet Union and expand American political influence,[1] with much funding going through the Congress for Cultural Freedom….that book details how the american govt, acting in collusion with large nonprofit foundations, selected certain people to act as propaganda carriers in order to shape the culture and politics of other nations…the same thing happened in america…feminism and the new version of Leftism were both deeply influenced by big money from large nonprofit foundations (see the book by dr joan roelofs called Foundations and Public Policy: The Mask of Pluralism)….those at top of society use organizations and people to disseminate propaganda/information that is used to shape the culture so as to benefit those at the top.This is not conspiracy theory stuff. …this is the way the world works…been that way for many decades….mankind is inherently susceptible to propaganda…those at the top of society know this….mankind’s vulnerability to propaganda stems from his unique evolutionary background…sociobiologist EO Wilson called mankind the primate that adopted the ant/bee/termite model of social organization….and like those creatures we are highly regimented animals that depend on passing information along to each other and using that information…see for example the nectar dance of bees…they work together by passing information on to each other…they have a high degree of trust…when a bee comes back from a nectar hunt with information on a trove of flowers, the bee dances to tell the other bees where the flowers are:https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Waggle_dancethe ants/termites use pheromones to pass along information about food etc to other ants…the ants, bees and termites TRUST the information from other ants, bees, termites. …they would never lie to each other….likewise, mankind, living in small tribes trusted each other. They would never lie to each other.So when the leaders of the tribes told the members of the tribe the best plan to capture some prey animal, or how to defeat an opposing tribe, whatever, the other members of the tribe listened, internalized that transmitted information, and used it to survive and pass on their genes…the transmission of that complex information helped mankind survive, so we evolved to be able to receive complex information from tribal leaders and then internalize that information and use it to survive and pass on our genes.So, now that mankind has left the tribal milieu, we are now vulnerable to propaganda (information) passed down to us from those at the top. Those at the top of society are no longer part of the tribe. We still trust those at the top. But our trust is misplaced….Those at the top of society, the elite are actually more like predators, and we are their prey. They are no longer of the tribe. They prey on us by exploiting our vulnerability to information passed down to us from those at the top. Propaganda is generated by the elite…the elite use their money to fund propaganda generators (the media, nonprofit foundations, academia, hollywood etc), and the propaganda generated and disseminated to society is propaganda that will benefit those at the top….like what, for example?Ok, a Fortune 500 CEO makes millions of dollars. He likes that. He wants to keep on making millions. He knows that if the economy tanks, he will not make millions. He will lose money. He knows that the economy is 75% consumer demand. So he thinks, how can i ensure that consumer demand stays high? Hmm..let’s get more consumers into america…how can I do that?Ah, immigration! Let’s lure more immigrants here, and they will work or go on welfare and thus consume. How can I lure immigrants here? Well, he uses his money to donate to politicians. And he asks the politicians to help make sure more immigrants get here…the politician then passes immigration-friendly laws and laws that give welfare to immigrants. Immigrants already here then get welfare, and they tell their friends and family back in the third world to come to america.The CEO also gives money to professors and tells them to generate bogus studies that show that immigration helps americans. The CEO also tells media management to write stories about how immigration helps americans and stories about how white americans who dislike immigration are evil racists. …the media organizations go along with it because the CEO’s large company funds the media via advertising purchases….the pro-immigration propaganda thus generated on behalf of the CEO from academia and media) is thus disseminated through society….multiply this scenario by hundreds of times over decades and we see how society and culture is shaped and molded by information disseminated from those at the top of society. A process of domestication. But NOT a conspiracy. Instead, it’s an ecosystem.

You can’t dismiss conspiracy theory any longer. Too much of it has turned into conspiracy fact. I remember when people were poo-poo-ing ECHELON as conspiracy theory. WRONG, it was conspiracy fact. There are ghosts and monsters out there. And they do move the world.

I had heard something a long while back about Saudis bankrolling a number of young Americans. I figured it was planting lots of seeds and betting that a few would successfully take root. My question has always been, if someone was doing that, how many other potential Obamas are out there?

I have an buddy whose father taught Obama at the Punahou school. He described Obama as a lazy, unmotivated stoner, not particularly bright, and arrogant.

The Left, as well as the Right, but the Left is much, much better at it, has for quite some time devoted a lot of effort into developing “bench strength.” Money from Leftist-supporting sources is quietly funneled to potential candidates who may support their ideology. It’s worth it to sink a few bucks into the campaign of the county councilman who may wind up as a state legislator and potentially advance to Congress and maybe to the Presidency.Yes, it’s a very long game with no guarantee of success; in fact, I’m sure there are way more losers than winners,but the Left has vast financial resources to invest (Ex: see: Soros, George; Arabia, Saudi;et al). So does the Right, actually, but is either too selfish to copy the Left, just not bright enough to understand the Long Game process, of simply focused on the immediate. Probably a combination of the three. And, while only one, or two, out of multiple years of 10K/year may ever get to be President, that doesn’t mean the potential payoff from investing in county officials, state legislators, Congressmen and Senators is zero.The odds on winning the Powerball lottery is 275 million to one, but millions of people still buy tickets.Investing $20 million/year is couch-cushion-change if it pays off in billions (it takes 50 years for $20M/year to reach $1B), and I’d wager the payoff on Obama was much, much greater than $1 billion. Plus, even if the Saudis were writing those $20M checks, we don’t know if all the $20M was coming from their accounts, nor do we know where all that $20M went, or how much more than $20M might have been invested, from any other sources. Could any have gone to Hollywood for use in movies and TV shows to change American attitudes? How much was invested in “scholarships” which wound up benefiting, say, some who wound up working in network news?

Is this not also related to Valerie Jarrett, whose father-in-law was a close confidant of the attorney that administered the Saudi sponsorship of minorities? The plan was to sponsor thousands of students, but it appears that Obama was one of the few who were actually sponsored. I recall that an obscure St. Petersburg Florida newspaper article from decades ago laid all of this out as it was beginning to be implemented. The article was authored by Vernon Jarrett, Valerie’s father-in-law. References linking the Saudis, Vernon Jarrett, and Obama were supposed to have been scrubbed from the record, but because this small Florida newspaper was not included in the digitization of the historical record, it was overlooked. A copy of the physical newspaper, citing the sponsorship, was discovered and publicized some years back, then it was all quickly dropped.

Barry Soetoro was a “resident” of Indonesia for many years after his adoptive father took him there. Indonesian law only allowed Indonesian citizens the ability to live and school there. Soetoro, aka obama,was and may still be an Indonesian citizen. Not only was the scoundrel NOT a natural born citizen he was an Indonesian moslem citizen. He was ineligible to be POTUS. But, the Deep State protected the truth. Many lawsuits were attempted to make Barry and the Deep State accountable.But, every federal, black-robed bandit ruled the plaintiff had “no standing” to challenge soetoro’s legitimacy or lack thereof !Barry, the federal judiciary and Barry’s handlers should be swinging from a short rope and a tall tree.Th bloodless coup d’etat installing soetoro was executed by the Deep State. Almost every Amerikan is clueless as to what was done and is continuing to this day.

Power hates a vacuum. Democracy is a vacuum awaiting a conspiracy, because power must go to the trouble of shaping the thoughts of people it does not respect. The Saudis did not imagine they would bag a President, or need to. No one needs to that is working against the interests of the country. Executive leadership is essential for preserving the interest of the country.The FBI, CIA, Justice, and State have revealed themselves to be zealously Deep State in committing to crippling a watershed election. Like ants, they do not need direction, but understand what must be done because that is what they were always doing.

If you are old enough to remember just how much in petrodollars was sloshing around in those days, why not invest a fraction in those that might prove sympathetic and useful later on. Went to a very similar school to Obama at exactly the same time. Finding candidates would not have been hard. Elite schools + minorities sympathetic to the “cause” was not exactly a screamingly large cohort. My working theory on the transcripts at Columbia and Occidental was always that they wished to hide the courses he took, not the grades. The removal of meaningful distribution requirements plus the rise in pablum level black studies and Marxist based courses that infested political “science”, economics and history departments, meant a guy like Obama could take steady diet of “Why White Colonialists Are Really Really Bad People” courses and get a degree. Saw that up close when I took a “Third World Literature” course. Professor was visiting from Oxford. Was probably one of three whites in the class. Problem was, being from Oxford, this guy actually expected people to read the books, write their papers and discuss the material with a decent working knowledge. This came a real shock to all the Black Studies (it was called that back then) who enrolled expecting another easy “A” for groupthink. The one positive was back then, whitey would still raise his/her/zhir hand and have a comment, question or observation without being shouted down for privilege or some such bullshit.

My realization that suboptical skullduggery was real was when Nancy Pelosi used the word “AstroTurf” with such unconscious facility when talking about the Tea Party. I knew right away that if there was a lexicon used out of the public eye about political theater, that there were likely other activities using their own language at other levels that we never see. I’m not saying that I know what these are. It’s just that when you find a fossilized bone it’s a good assumption that there’s a beast of which it is a part.

Two separate books were written detailing President Obama’s very peculiar past and were published prior to his being elected for the first time. Unfortunately, I seem to be one of the few people who read them.

Sometime around 2000 or 2001 when I had my first PC I stumbled onto a video of Obama walking a college campus and been exalted as the coming first black president. The video is the source of the black and white photos you see of Obama wearing a fedora. In the video you see afro wearing blacks playing dominos and smoking weed. These other brothers do things like obligatory black power first and tell you the star of the video will be the first black president.I didn’t think much of it and would never had even remembered it probably except years later here is this same guy being worshiped on his charge to the Whitehouse. All seemed contrived and curious to me so I went “vetting” myself in search of who/what this Obama was/is.It’s said the internet is forever but I challenge anyone to find the video.

Oh, and the Soviets worked that system to a degree far more sophisticated than any Arabs or Persians for seventy years. The Saudi road was already paved with Soviet asphalt.

The rumors at Harvard, of which I am an alum, have consistently said that the Saudis bought Obama’s way into Harvard Law, despite his nonexistent qualifications. Nor was he the first…

A lot of power players (including foreign governments) have engaged in this sort of machination throughout history. Most European aristocracies of yesteryear were interconnected via marriage (talk about planting the seed early). Sounds like you’ve only just begun to become aware of the Obama backstory. You have some catching up to do.

IBD also published a series exposing the Clintons as China’s number one spies.1000 Chinese front companies were operating unnoticed in provincial, backwater Arkansas, spreading influence. Now, under which Administration did a 1950’s Communist economy vault forward 50 years to missle, satellite, and nuclear tech? Under which Administration did CALPERS, and most other state pension funds, invest one-fifth of public pension funds in ‘Red Chip’ companies in a non-capitalist nation? Funding said vault, with a big promo by Republican investment houses to jump on the sellout gravy train of outsized return?

For a level headed discourse on the “Shadow Government” and “Deep State” I recommend listening to former CIA agent Kevin Shipp. As he says of himself, “I come from the belly of the beast”. He knows what he is talking about because he walked the walk.Recently, he was a guest on the Hagmann and Hagmann report. Good interview on 16 August 2017 and they had him back on on September 2, 2017 where he gave an outstanding PP presentation. I highly recommend both, worth your time. Both on H&H You Tube channel.Z Man – welcome to the Dark Side. I knew you’d hop over the fence sooner or later!

Media blackouts are standard procedure.http://www.socialmatter.net/2017/11/07/type-iii-propaganda-is-how-the-media-denies-left-wing-terror-in-the-west/http://www.socialmatter.net/2017/11/07/type-iii-propaganda-is-how-the-media-denies-left-wing-terror-in-the-west/

20 million a year? Man, that is CHEAP if it gets you a president for 8 years. (Not to mention the slew of other high level operatives) But it makes me wonder how this ties in with ‘drain the swamp’ and the current upheaval in S.A.

Yep, we were real upstanding human beings, paying the Saudis for their oil instead of just taking it. How could something evil come of such good intentions?

Don’t you know nothing? It was the Russians.

I started listening to InfoWars last year, now too much makes sense. Scary sense it’s not for those that want to cling to their illusions. The social veneer gets very thin, cya.

how could any sane person have believed a word of the obama biography. he was clearly shady from the startnow because of self hating white people and a corrupt press and federal government, the Republic is much worse shape than it was

In the end, we are all dead. Do what you can. Live the life you want to live. Avoid creeps. Especially the ones in high places.

I wonder if 9/11 was a group of Saudis gone rogue, blowing the cover of what they had been workings towards in the long run, all along. Or was it a natural progression from earlier incidents?

Angelo Codevilla has written on this before.

It is becoming more and more obvious, the more I have read and heard over the past couple years, that American culture, including political culture, has been controlled and influenced in a way that is more top-down and planned than is commonly believed. The whole history from 1950 to the present has to be re-written if we want to know the full story.

Where this breaks down is if you look at the totality of Obama’s actions they favor the Shia over the Sunnis. What hypothesis explains that?

I’m not sure the “how” is all that hard – it’s plainly a numbers game, where you hope that a few of the ones you fund wind up coming to prominence a few decades hence.If you are in the prince’s position back in the 80s, you likely know professors at a couple dozen top universities who are already in your debt or in ideological agreement. You ask each for the most promising students they’ve seen in the last couple years. You meet the kids and decide if you want to place a bet on each one. It seems pretty straightforward.The bigger mystery is why nobody else is playing this game. $20M is not a lot of money. Maybe some conservative rich guys should look into this instead of blowing a wad on their favorite college football team.

Explains the bow. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9WlqW6UCeaY

Can we just stick to the Russians for now.

I could go on and on about the Dunham/0bama family connections to US intelligence agencies, but rather than put on my tinfoil hat, I’ll just quote Angelo Codevilla:“Consistent with the Barack Obama we know, however, are his real family, his real upbringing, and his real choices of profession and associates. His mother’s parents, who raised him, seem to have been cogs in the U.S. government’s well-heeled, well-connected machine for influencing the world, whether openly (“gray influence”) or covertly (“black operations”). His mother spent her life and marriages, and birthed her children, working in that machine. For paradigms of young Barack’s demeanor, proclivities, opinions, language, and attitudes one need look no further than the persons who ran the institutions that his mother and grandparents served—e.g., the Ford Foundation, the United States Information Agency, and the Central Intelligence Agency—as well as his chosen mentors and colleagues. It is here, with these people and institutions, that one should begin to unravel the unknowns surrounding him.”http://www.claremont.org/crb/article/the-chosen-one/People think it’s odd how Barry Soetero just magically seemed to get the breaks at every turn, and there’s no denying it. But really, it all started with his mom, Stanley Anne Dunham. In what world does a young woman with no more than a BA in Anthropology from the University of Hawaii start scoring big money grants from the Ford Foundation to “study” the natives in Indonesia? The kind of grants that PhDs on real faculties would kill for? Only in a world in which Stanley is actually working for the company.

This is the Manchurian Candidate narrative, and it’s the only one that makes sense to me, given Obama’s nearly total lack of record and credentials at the time of his campaign. Hell, we still don’t know his GPA, nor do we have an admission from him, even in the face of multiple contemporaneous witnesses who knew him at the time, that he was enrolled at Occidental as a foreign student.

I’ve been reading this 150-year-old account of a white Brit in Africa, describing the different tribes and the ways of Africans. Can’t believe how it resonates with the society we see around us. Our leaders seem to be on the path of decriminalizing criminal behavior as way to appease the savages among us. This will hasten our turning 3rd world.“The history of the negro has proved the correctness of this theory. In no instance has he evinced other than a retrogression, when once freed from restraint. Like a horse without harness, he runs wild, but, if harnessed, no animal is more useful. Unfortunately, this is contrary to public opinion in England, where the vox populi assumes the right of dictation upon matters and men in which it has had no experience. The English insist upon their own weights and measures as the scales for human excellence, and it has been decreed by the multitude, inexperienced in the negro personally, that he has been a badly-treated brother; that he is a worthy member of the human family, placed in an inferior position through the prejudice and ignorance of the white man, with whom he should be upon equality.”“In his state of slavery the negro was compelled to work, and, through his labour, every country prospered where he had been introduced. He was suddenly freed; and from that moment he refused to work, and instead of being a useful member of society, he not only became a useless burden to the community, but a plotter and intriguer, imbued with a deadly hatred to the white man who had generously declared him free.“Now, as the negro was originally imported as a labourer, but now refuses to labour, it is self-evident that he is a lamentable failure. Either he must be compelled to work, by some stringent law against vagrancy, or those beautiful countries that prospered under the conditions of negro forced industry must yield to ruin, under negro freedom and idle independence. For an example of the results look to St. Domingo!”“It was amusing to watch the change that took place in a slave that had been civilized (?) by the slave-traders. Among their parties there were many blacks who had been captured, and who enjoyed the life of slave-hunting — nothing appeared so easy as to become professional in cattle razzias and kidnapping human beings, and the first act of the slave was to procure a slave for himself! All the best slave-hunters, and the boldest and most energetic scoundrels, were the negroes who had at one time themselves been kidnapped. These fellows aped a great and ridiculous importance. On the march they would seldom condescend to carry their own guns; a little slave boy invariably attended to his master, keeping close to his heels, and trotting along on foot during a long march, carrying a musket much longer than himself: a woman generally carried a basket with a cooking-pot, and a gourd of water and provisions, while a hired native carried the soldier’s change of clothes and oxhide upon which he slept. Thus the man who had been kidnapped became the kidnapper, and the slave became the master, the only difference between him and the Arab being an absurd notion of his own dignity. It was in vain that I attempted to reason with them against the principles of slavery: they thought it wrong when they were themselves the sufferers, but were always ready to indulge in it when the preponderance of power lay upon their side.“Among Ibrahim’s people, there was a black named Ibrahimawa. This fellow was a native of Bornu, and had been taken when a boy of twelve years old and sold at Constantinople; he formerly belonged to Mehemet Ali Pasha; he had been to London and Paris, and during the Crimean war he was at Kertch. Altogether he was a great traveller, and he had a natural taste for geography and botany, that marked him as a wonderful exception to the average of the party. He had run away from his master in Egypt, and had been vagabondizing about in Khartoum in handsome clothes, negro-like, persuading himself that the public admired him, and thought that he was a Bey. Having soon run through his money, he had engaged himself to Koorshid Aga to serve in his White Nile expedition.“He was an excellent example of the natural instincts of the negro remaining intact under all circumstances. Although remarkably superior to his associates, his small stock of knowledge was combined with such an exaggerated conceit, that he was to me a perpetual source of amusement, while he was positively hated by his comrades, both by Arabs and blacks, for his overbearing behaviour. Having seen many countries, he was excessively fond of recounting his adventures, all of which had so strong a colouring of the “Arabian Nights,” that he might have been the original “Sinbad the Sailor.” His natural talent for geography was really extraordinary; he would frequently pay me a visit, and spend hours in drawing maps with a stick upon the sand, of the countries he had visited, and especially of the Mediterranean, and the course from Egypt and Constantinople to England. Unfortunately, some long story was attached to every principal point of the voyage. The descriptions most interesting to me were those connected with the west bank of the White Nile, as he had served some years with the trading party, and had penetrated through the Makkarika, a cannibal tribe, to about two hundred miles west of Gondokoro. Both he and many of Ibrahim’s party had been frequent witnesses to acts of cannibalism, during their residence among the Makkarikas. They described these cannibals as remarkably good people, but possessing a peculiar taste for dogs and human flesh. They accompanied the trading party in their razzias, and invariably ate the bodies of the slain. The traders complained that they were bad associates, as they insisted upon killing and eating the children which the party wished to secure as slaves: their custom was to catch a child by its ankles, and to dash its head against the ground; thus killed, they opened the abdomen, extracted the stomach and intestines, and tying the two ankles to the neck they carried the body by slinging it over the shoulder, and thus returned to camp, where they divided it by quartering, and boiled it in a large pot. Another man in my own service had been a witness to a horrible act of cannibalism at Gondokoro.“The traders had arrived with their ivory from the West, together with a great number of slaves; the porters who carried the ivory being Makkarikas. One of the slave girls attempted to escape, and her proprietor immediately fired at her with his musket, and she fell wounded; the ball had struck her in the side. The girl was remarkably fat, and from the wound, a large lump of yellow fat exuded. No sooner had she fallen, than the Makkarikas rushed upon her in a crowd, and seizing the fat, they tore it from the wound in handfuls, the girl being still alive, while the crowd were quarrelling for the disgusting prize. Others killed her with a lance, and at once divided her by cutting off the head, and splitting the body with their lances, used as knives, cutting longitudinally from between the legs along the spine to the neck.“Many slave women and their children who witnessed this scene, rushed panic-stricken from the spot and took refuge in the trees. The Makkarikas seeing them in flight, were excited to give chase, and pulling the children from their refuge among the branches, they killed several, and in a short time a great feast was prepared for the whole party. My man, Mahommed, who was an eyewitness, declared that he could not eat his dinner for three days, so great was his disgust at this horrible feast.”– Sir Samuel W. Baker, “The Albert N’yanza. Great Basin of the Nile, and Explorations of the Nile Sources.” 1868Fascinating read!http://catalog.lambertvillelibrary.org/texts/English/baker/albert/albert_i.htm

TL;DR There surely is an awful lot of coordination going on. I’d love to explain why I believe that, but I cannot. Let me demonstrate: “The eigenvectors of the inverse of the covariance matrix agree with you.” I’m a math snob. I don’t think it’s possible to have a conversation about statistical inference with anyone who can’t parse the above.

So what, you were wrong.It does nothing to changethe reality, that the Constitutional Republicof America is overthrown and ruled bya communist dictatorship.The rule of law and equality of justiceis long dead, and was so long beforethe arrival of the illegal alien muslimbathhouse barry.You and yours are slaves.But you were wrong.Yeah focus on that.

Clearly, Mr. Z., Mossad and/or Black Cube has somehow just gotten you by shorthairs.