The Attack of the Dirt Monster

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When an army is defeated on the battlefield, the first thing that happens is the lines break and order breaks down. Some units surrender right away, while others try to reform and keep fighting. Still others will retreat, finding the quickest way to escape in order to avoid capture or potential slaughter. The military saying is that you learn everything about an army when they are defeated.

That’s true of political arrangements as well. A political party or an ideological movement takes on a very different character when it runs into trouble. That’s because we get to see inside once it is cracked open. The things that were hidden behind the rhetoric, tactics and institutions are not only made public, but the motivations behind them are made public. It’s never a pretty picture.

The feuding and bloodletting we are seeing in the American political class is one of those rare chances to see behind the curtain of power, at what really is going on with our rulers. The other day the NYTimes dropped a bombshell report on how Chuck Schumer, Marco Rubio and Roger Ailes tried to hoodwink conservatives into buying off on amnesty. The gist of the story is it was an orchestrated effort to have Fox News sell a Democrat policy to conservatives.

As much as this damages Fox News, it also damages the Left. Their voters loathe the idea that the fix is in and that both parties plot in secret to hose the voters. Liberals hate this more than conservatives, who tend to suspect it anyway. In the past, this is the sort of story that would never be reported, but today the lines are breaking and it is a free-for-all. The NYTimes is taking a shot at Fox, even if it helps Trump, who they hate.

Of course, the on-going implosion of conservative media offers the best glimpse into the reality of the so-called conservative movement. We see some of them pledging to support Hillary Clinton. Others have broken into the old liberal chants from the Bush years. Still others are claiming Trump is a member of the KKK, the Nazi Party, the Italian Mafia and a Progressive Democrat. I guess that’s what George Bush meant when he said he wanted to be a “uniter” not a divider.

The shocking part for many Americans is seeing people who have spent decades claiming to be their champion, suddenly turn on them and call them morons and fascists. But it’s what happens when the lines break down and there is no longer anyone around to maintain order. We see the true nature of the combatants. In this case, most of the people in conservative media never cared much for their customers. The audience is just there to be farmed, like cattle.

Scrape away the ranting and raving and what you see is that all of them have been committed to the open borders project. Mickey Kaus pointed out a year ago that the simplest way to derail Donald Trump was for the party to adopt the polices of Jeff Sessions. These are wildly popular with voters and well within the traditions of America. They could not do it. They were willing to go to war with their own voters in order to save the open borders dream.

There are plenty of examples from history where the ruling elite has decided that a popular belief had to be purged. Wodinism was purged from the British Isles by force. Whole villages were forcibly converted to the new religion. This only worked because the people doing the converting were believers too and their new religion offered something of value to the converted. If Christianity was good enough for the king, then the people could go along with it.

The fantasy of open borders turns this on its head. The managerial elites live in bunkered communities, immune from the costs of open borders. They live in these Potemkin villages that resemble college campuses, where the diversity is only skin deep. Everyone has an advanced degree, a job in government and a worldview to match it. The people they plan to forcibly convert are the people they intend to stick with the cost of it, while the elites plan to enjoy the benefits.

The insanity of this plan is that it assumes things about humans that, if true, would spell the end of the managerial class. After all, if people are willing to go along with having the value of their citizenship vaporized, that means they no longer see it as having any value. How in the world will the managerial class command loyalty from the people when there is no longer any point in being loyal? After all, you can’t have patriotic duty without patriotism and you can’t have that if it no longer has any value.

What we are seeing here is something about how the Cloud People view the Dirt People. Loyalty to a society has always been anchored in loyalty to the people in that society. A man is willing to take up the sword on behalf of the king, because the king is doing the same for his subjects. In other words, you’re not fighting for the king, you’re fighting for what the king embodies, what the king represents. Loyalty flows in both directions.

What’s happening is a realization on the part of the Dirt People that the Cloud People hold them in contempt. What started out as some small skirmishes over the last decade, have now turned into a full blown war and the lines of the political establishment have broken. We’re getting to see the ugly truth that lies behind them. For most people, this is infuriating and that’s why they have flocked to the evil dirt monster that is Donald Trump

It’s also why the bellowing from conservative media over Trump has backfired. The people are angry at the Republicans for their treachery. They are hardly going to listen to the party’s propaganda organs lecture them on the need to be loyal in the fight against the dirt monster. If anything, like the peasants in the Italian countryside when Alaric approached Rome, they will side with the wrecker.

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Turk Sylvester #9355 March 1, 2016 5:14 pm 62
It’s not that I disagree with George Will or Jonah Goldberg, or any of the other cucks. I no longer read anything they write, or let their voices enter my home. Nor do I read anything negative about Trump; because I just don’t care. If I have to write his name on the ballot in November, that’s what I will do. Nothing and no one can sway me at this point. I want the old system to burn completely to the ground, so I can dance in the ashes.
Rev. Right #9358 March 1, 2016 6:50 pm 11
Bingo.
dr kill #9364 March 1, 2016 10:46 pm 21
He’s my weapon of choice to murder the Republican Party
Andy #9381 March 2, 2016 12:21 pm 13
“I want the old system to burn completely to the ground, so I can dance in the ashes.” This a thousand times
reltney mcfee #9555 March 6, 2016 10:35 am 0
Actually, want it or not, how could you or I stop the flames?
Severian #9359 March 1, 2016 7:49 pm 16
Back in the Dark Ages when I was in college, we had to take this thing called “humanities,” in which we at least glanced at the Dead White Males and what they had to say about government — you know, Plato, Locke, Hobbes, Montesquieu, Hamilton, the Fonz… anyway, I seem to remember something called “legitimacy,” and another thing called “the social contract.” I vaguely recall that violating the one costs you the other, which entails that subjects / citizens are no longer under any obligation to the ruling power, as it is now just a gangster cabal running things for its benefit. The words “right to revolution” were mentioned. I wonder what they teach in college now? Do any queer transgendered Latinas in wheelchairs do “political science”?
PJ123 #9645 March 8, 2016 6:06 pm 0
You were just imbibing propaganda. There was never any such thing as a “social contract”, nor were the rulers ever legitimate. But yeah, these days they seem to have given up on this fantasy, haven’t they?
Karl Horst Germany #9354 March 1, 2016 4:39 pm 9
Forget the Italians, read up on what Arminius did in the Teutoburg Forest. The ancient dirt people (the Germans) made sure the ancient sky people (the Romans) never crossed the Rhine or the Limes and it was down hill for the ancient sky people after that.Bottom line – never trust people you pay to defend your interests, especially when they’re not keen on you or your politics in the first place.The world has a long history of sky people and dirt people. The dirt people usually end up using the sky people’s villas to house their cows, sheep and pigs as they did in Britain. Oddly enough, the pigs never really learned to appreciate concrete, indoor plumbing or mosaic floors.
Turk Sylvester #9356 March 1, 2016 5:16 pm 4
“Varus, where are my legions?!”
UKer #9365 March 2, 2016 3:28 am 4
I have a theory that the armed forces who protect the great and good can only be pushed so far. “I was only taking orders” will, at some point, effectively turn into “I was only taking the lives of those who gave the orders.”The question is when will that point be reached? It may be soon or a long way off depending on culture and education, but the more the ‘leaders’ laud it over the ordinary people, the more likely there will come a time when the ordinary people will turn to relatives, friend and even their own conscience and say “Why are you doing this?”It may not be quite like a domino effect, but holes will appear in the ranks. I have an idea that there will be guards on the walled homes of the great and good shooting at their own people while being shouted at and sneered at by those they are protecting. Slowly the bitter words of what Z calls the ‘cloud people’ will eat into them and the defenders can just as easily, if not necessarily turn round, at least open the gates to reality.
alzaebo #9475 March 4, 2016 6:37 am 0
“Why are we defending these rich idiots in these bunkers? We’ve got the guns, and money doesn’t mean a thing anymore…”
John #9380 March 2, 2016 11:02 am 8
It’s the rate of change that the progressive’s supporters don’t understand.My father (Merchant sailor on US flagged ships) walked home alone, at night from South Boston through Dorchester and Roxbury to Squantum. With six months pay in cash in his pocket. Nothing about that trip is recommended or even possible today.I worked at night in Boston for decades and anyone I met I could talk to since we both had the same language. There are neighborhoods in Boston, Quincy and even Braintree that I wouldn’t walk or park my vehicle in today. Or understand the local language.I realized that the ‘safe’ areas around me are getting smaller and further away from not only large cities but are in the non-coastal, mainly middle class towns. In the small rural town I grew up in there are now two ‘bad’ areas that see a lot of police activity. They are near the Low-Cost Housing developments that were mandated by State and Federal Governments. As the poorly educated local youth get together with and are ‘trained’ by the inner city thugs in a few years that town will also be gone.This election we may be looking for a President, the next time we may be looking for a War Leader.
GatesofVienna #9393 March 2, 2016 3:04 pm 5
I think we’re looking for a war leader now. The next one will be of the “Civil” variety. *The* least* civil of all.
Anon #9357 March 1, 2016 6:18 pm 8
>while the elites plan to enjoy the benefits.Nope. Even though there are some benefits to the moderately wealthy who might be able to afford a nanny or someone to mow their lawn, this isn’t the driving force. Nor is it that the super-rich want it for ‘cheap labor’, considering that they can open up a plant in China, Bangladesh, Mexico or Vietnam and get even cheaper labor and a successful local economy to buy products.What’s happened is that some people have taken the ruling ‘anti-racism’ ethos to puritanical extremes.You noted that back in the day, Christians took their faith a little too far and went beyond self-flagellation, doing terribly painful things to themselves. Excess is common. But not all that many people will do something which causes them immediate pain. It’s much easier to hurt other people, hardly even noticing that you’re doing it.The extremists who play at holier-than-thou, more anti-racist than thou have gained far too much power.This open-borders is a classical symptom, because who could be less likely to be accused of racism than he who cries for the borders to be left open to hordes of Muslims etc? It might be insane, but it’s ‘anti-racist’.Watching this is like watching a robot go haywire. Someone sent the robot to make a ‘sweet coffee’ and the robot won’t stop adding sugar. The directive keeps being obeyed, however inanely.I suspect this is in part what’s happened to Muslims, the way they give way to their own extremists. Lest one be accused of not being a good Muslim, one should back the craziest Muslim devotee there is, because at least his devotion to Islam is unquestionable. By definition, the one who goes to insane extremes in the name of the Governing Ethos, is the most devoted to the ethos.So they don’t see themselves gaining anything from preaching against whomever suggests open borders are an unhinged policy. They’re just following the Directive, and virtue-signalling, lest anyone accuse them of heresy.
UKer #9366 March 2, 2016 3:36 am 4
You are right the muslims have to go along with the extreme, because they have not only the devotion but also the guns, and more importantly, the will to use them. It has been observed before that the islamic faith has been built on the ability to make real the threats it makes, and as most muslims don’t want trouble they must in some fashion support those who shout in anger and wave weapons. This may mean trouble but within its own confines, it is far less trouble than rejecting violence to other groups or beliefs.There may well be gay muslims cheering when they watch a gay person thrown off a building in muslim places, but that’s better than the alternative of joining the thrown. Anyway, the converts will always back it up even more fervently.
Dr. Mabuse #9382 March 2, 2016 1:04 pm 4
I also think a lot of this irrational self-destruction stems from decayed Christianity. Maybe it’s to stifle self-doubt, or to clang pot-lids louder and louder to get some sort of response from God. But taken far enough, and you get nutcases like Mark Shea claiming that the only REAL Catholic course of action is to eschew self-defence before violence (guns are sinful), quit worrying about Muslim terrorism (it shows a lack of trust in God), and let anyone who wants to pour into your country (nationalism is an abomination)http://tinyurl.com/jubxzp6.This sort of extremism seems to take Christian virtue and crank it up to bizarro levels. “Jesus said to trust in God to provide, so we’ll fling everything we possess into the river to prove how much we trust him! Jesus said that he who loses his life will save it, so we’ll stand naked in front of a knife-wielding murderer to show how saved we are!” Even suggesting that Christianity couldn’t have survived for 2,000 years if it had always taught this sort of nihilistic obliviousness just leads to sneers about how tepid one’s faith is.
Anon #9384 March 2, 2016 1:50 pm 3
I’d agree with you up to a point. For example, the idea of loving one’s enemy has bled out of orthodox Christianity and infected the chattering classes, who absolutely love the idea. God is Love. We are Love. We love our enemies even more than we love our society and our friends.I didn’t know Jesus firsthand but I doubt he meant to love our enemies to the detriment of our fellow-man.Either way, we’re talking about taking a certain directive and following it to illogical, reckless, dangerous extreme. As though that one directive is the only directive that counts. As though being sane is unimportant.The same applies to the idea of selflessness. Moral rules are typically about selflessness to some extent, so what happens when this idea is followed to absurd extremes? Nothing good.The road to hell, as they say, is paved with good intentions. Another saying worth thinking about is that fools rush in where angels fear to tread. We are saddled with fools who think they’re angels.
GatesofVienna #9386 March 2, 2016 2:09 pm 3
Excellent term: “decayed Christianity”. In Europe, all or most of organized Christianity is state-owned, thus the Church tax on all Swedes. But it’s decayed and rotting, still too toxic to be helpful for planting anything new.The Chinese version(s) of Christianity, including the state-sponsored (read “congtrolled”) one, are closer to the original genius of Jerusalem’s Christ-disciples. Paul’s more Romanized Christ-followers – many of them Hellenized Jews – was crucial after the fall of Jerusalem in 70 AD. It is the latter we’re familiar with. The Jerusalem type is what springs up and flourishes under persecution. We are beginning to see that persecution in the U.S., and it’s being done by the collusion of mainstream denominations and the govt. Thus, we have the 7 or so “faith-based” orgs hired by the ORR (Office of Refugee Resettlement, a bloat bureaucracy under the aegis of DHS). These groups “seed” unsuspecting communities w/ groups of 3rd world immigrants. They provide “support” to the aliens for six months before signing up for another group – These f.b.orgs are paid by the head. As “non-profits” they have handsome buildings and even better CEO pay. And the communities they “seeded”?They’re left with an overwhelmed health, social services, education and police staffs. IOW, they have to raise taxes on the indigenous…and they become less safe places to live.Wealthy communities – think Chappaqua NY or Wellesley MA or Old Town Alexandria VA – are safely exempt somehow. See this 2014 clip from Lawrenceville VA: citizen pushback on the attempt to open St. Paul’s College (a closed Historic Black College) and use it for all those unaccompanied “children” the BHO admin recruited from Central America.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uHUxCM-Oeog
Buckaroo Banzai #9436 March 3, 2016 12:33 pm 2
“quit worrying about Muslim terrorism (it shows a lack of trust in God)”Oosh. So trust in the Will of Allah, then? Hmmm. I haven’t heard of this Mark Shea character before, but his conception of Christianity seems to be open to …outside influence, shall we say?
PJ123 #9644 March 8, 2016 6:03 pm 0
“What’s happened is that some people have taken the ruling ‘anti-racism’ ethos to puritanical extremes.” I don’t think that’s it either. They don’t give a rat’s patoot about anti-racism. Instead, it is just the old-timey “divide and conquer”. The sky people want strife, want the dirt people squabbling over crumbs from their table, scrambling merely to survive. That way the dirt people will forget to hang the sky people from the nearest lamp post, when the debt-ridden economy crashes.
michaelhayes #9377 March 2, 2016 9:43 am 7
This is an excellent article. I don’t know what Trump can do for the dirt people but any taking down of the cloud folk can only help those left in the dust.
Buckaroo Banzai #9379 March 2, 2016 10:37 am 3
“How in the world will the managerial class command loyalty from the people when there is no longer any point in being loyal?” I don’t think they expect to “command” loyalty, rather, their plan is to ENFORCE loyalty. Talk back to the man, and you get a beating. Keep talking back, and you get thrown in the hole. Anyone who has bothered to pay attention knows that, over the last hundred years or so, the United States is slowly, slowly being transformed into a giant open-air prison.
GatesofVienna #9394 March 2, 2016 3:06 pm 2
Da man can also use you. Remember the fellow who did that video which was used as the excuse for Benghazi? I’ll bet the backstory would show he was ordered to make it as part of his parole rules. Lot of good it did him.
james wilson #9385 March 2, 2016 1:56 pm 2
I read this morning that Tom Delay declared Trump is going to ruin the Republican Party. As if that were a bad thing. No clue that he’s eliciting support for Trump. Here’s the message for ya, Tom: Bush, Dole, Bush, McCain, Romney=Trump. Top that off with Boener, Hastert, and Ryan. Oh, and take Roberts with you out the door.Your observations about Cruz are ringing every bell, unfortunately. This is no longer a debate, or a discussion, it’s a war, and Cruz is a no show. The artillery is already firing, mon. I loved how Trump handled the KKK incoming. He didn’t acknowledge it. That drove the Cloud nuts. He will not let them define anything about his space. There is not a single Republican who would not have fallen into that trap. Proof, if any were needed, that Trump is no Republican.
Turk Sylvester #9389 March 2, 2016 2:50 pm 1
And Delay did so much to improve the GOP and its reputation. Guffaw.
Dr. Mabuse #9390 March 2, 2016 2:56 pm 8
Absolutely right re: Trump and the KKK accusations. There has always been a standard pattern to this dance: The Virtuous say the booga-booga words, and the Accused hastens to lay his exculpation before their feet. One one level, nothing happens: the people who like the Accused never believed the accusation in the first place, and the Virtuous won’t admit they were wrong under any circumstances. So it *looks* as if nothing has happened. But in fact, something important HAS happened: the Accused has acknowledged that the Virtuous are his judges. By “responding to” or “denying” the charges, he has presented himself before their tribunal.Trump’s genius is to short-circuit the whole elaborate machinery by shrugging off the accusations. He’s not participating in the little show trial, and not even acknowledging it for the purposes of “winning” the contest. The Virtuous are so shocked, they can’t think of anything to do but to keep yelling the same magic words: “KKK! David Duke!” Which ends up exposing the hollowness of the charges. David Duke? Seriously? Does anyone under 50 recognize his name anymore? When was the last time a KKK meeting was held in your neighbourhood? Suddenly it all seems ridiculous, like accusations of witchcraft.
Andy Texan #9395 March 2, 2016 4:34 pm 1
KKK accusations against Trump are all the rage from the “conservative” media. Even more so than the demonrat media. Hewitt was blathering on last night about this “game changer” failure but he could not get his media guests to agree.
James LePore #9403 March 2, 2016 7:11 pm 6
Not only does Trump refuse to participate, he turns the tables on the idiots who think they have him cornered. Even his “I disavow it” statements were made with contempt for the people doing the questioning. This is why the Dirt People love Trump: they have been held in contempt for so long, they are ecstatic to see someone give the Cloud People the finger.
Strelnikov #9361 March 1, 2016 8:38 pm 2
Sounds like cloud people need to be District 13’d.
teapartydoc #9423 March 3, 2016 7:03 am 1
Great post.
GatesofVienna #9392 March 2, 2016 3:00 pm 1
We got here via WRSA [http://westernrifleshooters.wordpress.com/]. And we’ll definitely return. This is the best analysis I’ve seen so far of the Trump phenomenon. It’ll be mirrored at our website, with a recommendation to read the comments.
thezman #9397 March 2, 2016 5:15 pm 1
Thanks for the traffic. I’m grateful so many come by a read my stuff.
Doug #9401 March 2, 2016 6:50 pm 2
That guy GoV is top shelf honorable all the way fellow ZMan.Runs probably the finest blog on Christianity and Islam on the net.Before many of us even knew what he was writing about.
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bilejones #9646 March 8, 2016 7:46 pm 0
The late great Spike Milligan had a saying: “All twats should wear funny hats so you can see them coming.” Trump is in the business of handing out funny hats to the corrupt political filth and their corporate media whores. I don’t think that anyone is much surprised at who is wearing them.
John Gates #9540 March 5, 2016 1:27 pm 0
One small problems I have with this article is that it identifies Trump with the dirt people. He is really one of the cloud people pretending to be one of the dirt people in order to take control of the situation to his own purposes. Do not trust Trump. He does not have anyone’s interest at heart except his own.
Ripple #9517 March 4, 2016 7:47 pm 0
TPTB are waging the same psychological warfare they waged against Bush II and Sarah Palin. The thing is, “Drumpf” actually fights backs. I discovered the online counterjihad around 2004, and back then GoV and their compadres predicted exactly what is going on now in Europe with the “refugees.”
Rondo #9515 March 4, 2016 5:37 pm 0
Trump explained http://www.chroniclesmagazine.org/2015/November/39/11/magazine/article/10829676/
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Ganderson #9396 March 2, 2016 5:12 pm 0
If my FB is at all representative, the left is completely unhinged by Trump- all out of proportion to who he is and what he represents. And as for the RINOs- Governor Charlie Baker announced he won’t vote for Trump if he is the nominee. And- does anybody know the origin and /or meaning of the ‘Drumpf’ meme?
thezman #9398 March 2, 2016 5:20 pm 1
His family name was Drumpf. His great grandfather changed it for some reason. I guess he wanted it to be more American.
Buckaroo Banzai #9435 March 3, 2016 12:24 pm 3
The fact that the anti-Trump axis has polarized around a distant ancestor’s decision to change the family name shows you how bereft of ideas they are. Trump is a man who has been under the media spotlight– especially the New York media spotlight– for thirty years now. Thirty years!! If they could find something on him, it would have been uncovered decades ago. Now they stumbled on this “Drumpf” thing because, apparently, its literally the last thing they could find to use against him. Pathetic.
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Drake #9369 March 2, 2016 8:16 am -3
Dig into the next layer and you find that Trump is the cloudiest of cloud people. The Republicans could beat him easily – Trump is winning primaries with 33% of the vote. Just yank Rubio and Kasich out of race, and Cruz to victory. But in reality, they like the fake populist deal-maker far better than the guy who reads the Constitution. I’m becoming convinced that the “establishment” GOP is purposely helping Trump at this point.
thezman #9371 March 2, 2016 8:52 am 14
This is a popular fantasy in snow globe conservative circles, but none of the data backs it up. Yeah, a pure Trump – Cruz race would be a lot closer, but Trump still wins. It’s easy to forget just how unpleasant Cruz is on the stump. As soon as he breaks into the phony preacher voice, 90% of Americans have to go outside and vomit. Even his friends admit he is off-putting, under the best of circumstances. In a mass media democracy, you can’t be the sort of person no one wants in their home.That’s what gets missed about Trump. Everyone knows a guy like this. I had an uncle who was just like this. Bragging, loud, always talking about his deals. But, he was often funny and a great guy to have a party. One of my friends is pretty much like this too. We all know a Trump-like person. Yeah, a lot of it gets on your nerves after a while, but a lot of it is great fun too. Cruz, on the other hand, is the guy you pretend not to see when you see him in public.One of the important lessons from this cycle is it is a bad idea to keep listening to people that are wrong all the time. Those people telling you Cruz would beat Trump are the same people who said Bush would beat Trump and then Farina would beat Trump and then Rubio. They have been wrong for 25 years.
Drake #9372 March 2, 2016 9:00 am -2
Only the Stupid Party would think they could beat him 1 on 4. I don’t think even they are that stupid, so they are purposefully forgoing their only chance (however slim) of stopping him.
thezman #9376 March 2, 2016 9:42 am 8
Hanlon’s Razor: Never attribute to malice that which is adequately explained by stupidity. Exactly no one inside the GOP bubble thought Trump would run, much less be a legitimate threat to win the nomination. Again, it’s comforting to think there is a conspiracy at work against your guy, but there is no conspiracy. Ted Cruz is just not a very good candidate for a number of reasons, but he has a deeply committed core of voters. That allows him to hang in the race.
Buckaroo Banzai #9378 March 2, 2016 10:31 am 8
Oh, I think there definitely is a conspiracy against Trump. They just organized it a day late, and a shekel short.
Lt. Greyman NVA #9409 March 2, 2016 8:02 pm 5
Snowden had the real race in a tweet. He Said, “The real race is between Trump and Goldman Sachs”.
Drake #9387 March 2, 2016 2:37 pm 3
I guess I’m an anachronism. I’m not looking for a good candidate. I’m more interested in a potential President who shares my values and may actually govern in a way that isn’t counter to my values and interests – or the long-term interests of my children.
reltney mcfee #9556 March 6, 2016 10:44 am 0
Item one: Me, too!Item two: good luck, with that!
Col. B. Bunny #9615 March 7, 2016 3:53 pm 0
Agreed. Nice to have. However, I can’t think of a nominating and electing process that is less likely to cast up such great people. The election of Obama and the presence of Hillary on the Dem side is just stupefying. Really? That’s the best we can do? Just two examples.
Doug #9400 March 2, 2016 6:03 pm 3
Oh ya they are That Stupid. This is rich. you know what they are going to do before the start of the next Republican debate?Mitt Romney, who along with the RINO brain trust couldn’t, who couldn’t beat obama in 2012, is going to be given national prime time air time, get up in front of us all, and inform the Dirt People they are to unite behind the GOPe and defeat Trump. I shit you not. We are going to told how we are to obey. http://www.bloomberg.com/politics/articles/2016-03-02/republicans-wrestle-with-trump-after-dominant-super-tuesday-wins http://theconservativetreehouse.com/2016/03/02/mitt-romney-coordinates-pre-debate-speech-to-set-stage-for-thursday-night-ambush/
Turk Sylvester #9374 March 2, 2016 9:21 am 1
Trump is winning 40 – 45% of the vote in a good number of primaries. And this is in a three way (sometimes four way) split. In a one on one race, Trump will be getting high 50’s low 60’s percent of the vote. He has more delegates in the bag now, than all the other candidates put together.
Drake #9388 March 2, 2016 2:40 pm 0
The only primary in which Trump was above 40% was Massachusetts – which is absolutely meaningless.
Hugh #9516 March 4, 2016 7:20 pm 0
Besides getting 50% in Mass, Trump got 46% in Nevada, 43% in Alabama, and 39% in both Georgia and Tennessee.


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